Interdisciplinary
123 episodes - English - Latest episode: 9 months ago - ★★★★★ - 17 ratingsInterdisciplinary is Healwell's healthcare podcast about all the places and perspectives that lift us up. We say what other people aren't willing to say and we always say the quiet parts loud.
You’ll always learn something. You’ll always laugh and you’ll come away better informed and with real things you can do in your own community and practice to create a more compassionate and collaborative system of care for all humans.
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Episodes
Countering Capitalism with Co-ops
October 14, 2023 09:00 - 57 minutes - 53.1 MBEpisode description: Corey and Dr Marisa Allison talk about co-ops, community and the possibilities for massage therapy. ********** Resources: REI Co-op Nap Ministry Sustainable Economies Law Center International Co-op Alliance Democracy at Work Institute Solidarity Economics Aorta: Autumn Brown Rochelle Capital Cat with Cookies comic by Molly Crabapple Collective Courage by Jessica Gordon Nembhard ********** Leave us a review on Apple Podcasts ********** ...
Dance Together and Walk Out
September 23, 2023 09:00 - 59 minutes - 82.7 MBThis week Cal and Corey are talking to Su Bibik, massage therapist, educator, go getter and one of our favorite people. She'll tell you what's she's up to a year after she sold her school and and spoiler alert: its not retirement. ********** Show Notes ABHES COMTA ********** Leave us a review on Apple Podcasts ********** Let us know what you think! Send us an email: [email protected] *********** Check Healwell’s live and online classes ********** Support t...
The Good Word (re-release)
September 16, 2023 09:00 - 56 minutes - 78.3 MBEpisode description This is a re-run of one of our best episodes, "The Good Word" with social worker and friend of Healwell, Anne Kelemen. Healwell works with Anne to create online courses, write and publish research, and connect with the social work discipline. In this episode Cal Cates and Cathy Ryan talk with Anne about how our word choices affect the kind of care we can provide. We're replaying this episode, partly because we consider Anne a dynamite gal, but also becau...
Authenticity Soup
September 09, 2023 09:00 - 1 hour - 101 MBArika Patneaude and Bridget Sumser swing by to talk about their work as anti-oppression decolonizers. ********** Show Notes Elise Ahenkorah (she/her) “Safe and Brave Spaces Don’t Work (and What You Can Do Instead)” Dr Autumn Asher BlackDeer Wilson Center: “What Explains the United States’ Dismal Maternal Mortality Rates?” Luvvie Ajayi Jones’ TED Talk “Get Comfortable With Being Uncomfortable” *********** DANCE PARTY! Come party with us at Busboys and Poets ...
Floundering in the Darkness
September 02, 2023 09:00 - 1 hour - 110 MBWe talk about USOLMT's national wage study, leadership, forging new paths and standing your ground. ********** You can find them here at: https://usolmt.com/ *********** Cal mentions this AMAZING BOOK THAT YOU SHOULD READ: “The Person You Mean Be” by Dolly Chugh https://www.dollychugh.com/book/the-person-you-mean-to-be *********** US Department of Education Gainful Employment Rule: https://tinyurl.com/24vdtmsy *********** DANCE PARTY! Come party with us at Busboys and...
We Have Bodies!
August 26, 2023 09:00 - 56 minutes - 78.4 MBCorey and Rebecca sit down with Cynthia Price to get all interoceptive and stuff. ********** Learn more about MABT here *********** DANCE PARTY! Come party with us at Busboys and Poets in Arlington, VA on September 21 ********** Let us know what you think! Send us an email: [email protected] *********** Check Healwell’s live and online classes ********** Support the podcast (and get your podcast episodes early and ad-free) on Patreon ********** Conti...
Scat Out the Gate
August 19, 2023 09:00 - 1 hour - 96.5 MB"Life is a sexually transmitted condition with a 100% mortality rate." Hear Cindy Spence drop wisdom like this on Corey and Cal in this week's episode. ********** And check out Cindy's book here: https://us.singingdragon.com/products/palliative-touch-massage-for-people-at-the-end-of-life *********** DANCE PARTY! Come party with us at Busboys and Poets in Arlington, VA on September 21: https://give.healwell.org/event/healwell-dance-party-2023/e487769 ********** Let us...
ReRun: The Ways We Feed Each Other
August 12, 2023 09:00 - 1 hour - 84.4 MBThis week we are re-running one of Cal's favorites from January, 2022. This conversation with Jenn Brandel covers crisis planning, metaphors, and how we support each other in hard times. ********** Find Jenn's books (including a free downloadable PDF of My Crisis Plan) here: https://jennbrandel.com/publications.html *********** DANCE PARTY! Come party with us at Busboys and Poets in Arlington, VA on September 21: https://give.healwell.org/event/healwell-dance-party-2023/e...
Paper Bag of Nothing
August 05, 2023 09:00 - 53 minutes - 74.4 MBIt's a new season! This one is a shiny collection of hodge-podge stuff. We start off with Healwell's Education Department (aka, Corey and Rebecca) talking about education stuff. There will be opinions. *********** DANCE PARTY! Come party with us at Busboys and Poets in Arlington, VA on September 21: https://give.healwell.org/event/healwell-dance-party-2023/e487769 ********** Let us know what you think! Send us an email: [email protected] *********** Check Healwell’s...
ReRun: Research Rat Race
July 22, 2023 09:00 - 57 minutes - 79.6 MBIt's another special pick from Laura Bryant-Earner, Healwell's Service Director. The Healwell Brain Trust welcomes Esther E. Dupont-Versteegden, Ph.D. to the podcast. Esther's presentation at IMTRC blew everyone away, and we are delighted to have her on the podcast to talk more about about her research into muscular atrophy, how researchers really spend their time, and what all this data means for massage therapists. In this episode, the Healwell Brain Trust welcomes Esther E...
ReRun: Our Life is But a Breath
July 15, 2023 09:00 - 1 hour - 85 MBWhile we are working on Season 12, we're bringing you some of the Healwell Brain Trust's favorite episodes. Here's Service Director, Laura Bryant-Earner's pick: a conversation with Elder Angela Overton. (Originally aired February, 2021) ********** Elder Overton will be the keynote speaker at our October symposium: Ending Inequities in End of Life Care. Find out more here: https://www.healwell.org/ending-inequities-in-end-of-life-care *********** Let us know what you thin...
BONUS! The Rub podcast: Hospital-Based Massage Therapy
July 08, 2023 09:00 - 33 minutes - 23.2 MBThis is the first episode of THE RUB, a podcast about massage therapy. Join Corey, co-host of Interdisciplinary, in examining and bringing context to the world of massage beyond the table. Any topic is up for grabs: history, philosophy, development, and all the other shiny things that distract Corey daily. This episode explores what it is like to be a hospital-based massage therapist, and what it takes to start hospital-based programs. The Rub is a produced show, written an...
It's All Capitalism
July 01, 2023 09:00 - 1 hour - 85.8 MBCorey, Cal, and Rebecca sit down and talk about what we learned in Season 11. It was a packed season, full of rich information, and this conversation is only part of an ongoing discussion that we're sure will flow into next season as well. Let us know what you think! Send us an email: [email protected] *********** Check Healwell’s live and online classes here: online.healwell.org ********** Support the podcast (and get your podcast episodes early and ad-free) on Pat...
That Rage/Love Coin
June 24, 2023 09:00 - 1 hour - 87.5 MBIt's our last guest of Season 11, and this is a conversation you don't want to miss. Allissa Haines talks with Corey and Cal about what it really takes to build a massage career, and how work can turn into flow. ********** Let us know what you think! Send us an email: [email protected] *********** Check Healwell’s live and online classes here: online.healwell.org ********** Continue the conversation with us in the Healwell Community: community.healwell.org *******...
Can't Hurt, Might Help
June 17, 2023 09:00 - 1 hour - 98 MBCal and Corey have a rollicking conversation with experts in the field of Physical Therapy, in which we all learn that our challenges are shared, and we have much to learn from each other. ********** Let us know what you think! Send us an email: [email protected] *********** Check Healwell’s live and online classes here: online.healwell.org ********** Support the podcast (and get your podcast episodes early and ad-free) on Patreon: patreon.com/interdisciplinary ...
Palatable for Capitalism
June 10, 2023 09:00 - 1 hour - 90.2 MBCorey and Cal talk with sociologist Marisa Allison about gender in massage therapy. What is a "feminized" profession, and what does it mean for the growth and opportunities available in that profession? And how does all this connect to sustainability? ********** Job Queues, Gender Queues (research Dr. Allison mentioned in the episode): https://www.betterworldbooks.com/product/detail/job-queues-gender-queues-explaining-women-s-inroads-into-male-occupations-9780877227441 *...
A Grown Person
June 03, 2023 09:00 - 45 minutes - 62.9 MBCal and Corey continue talking about massage career sustainability with Healwell Community Member Matt Smith. If you came to massage after a different career ( or several), if you had to figure out how to maintain your career during and after the pandemic, or if you just really like lemurs -- you'll love this episode. ********** Let us know what you think! Send us an email: [email protected] *********** Check Healwell’s live and online classes here: online.healwell.o...
I Would Like My Career
May 27, 2023 09:00 - 56 minutes - 78.2 MBWe continue our exploration of sustainability in the massage profession with some real talk with real therapists. This week we speak with Ken Brown, one of Healwell's massage therapists and thoughtful guy, about his career in massage therapy. ********** Let us know what you think! Send us an email: [email protected] *********** Check Healwell’s live and online classes here: online.healwell.org ********** Support the podcast (and see the video of podcast episodes a...
Courageous, Fearless Leaders
May 20, 2023 09:00 - 1 hour - 108 MBToday we dive into the history of nursing. How did nurses get to where they are today? What were the forces that brought nursing to this place of respect and skill? Corey and Cal sit down with nurse researcher and historian, Mei Fu, and get into the real work and the hard choices that go into growing a profession. ********** Let us know what you think! Send us an email: [email protected] *********** Check Healwell’s live and online classes here: online.healwell.org ...
A Space of Love
May 13, 2023 09:00 - 56 minutes - 78.2 MBToday Cal Cates talks with Davonna Willis and Ashley Urquhart, the visionary leaders organizing the Black Massage Therapists' Conference. (Links below) In this deeply honest conversation, Davonna and Ashley share their vision for a space of love and belonging, and some of the realities that make that space so important. ********** Black Massage Therapist Conference: www.blackmassagetherapist.com Davonna's CE course website: 4nineteeneducation.com Ashley's CE course we...
It's the Brains
May 06, 2023 09:00 - 1 hour - 101 MBPodcast guests -- they're just like us! This week, we sat down with Sara Rennie, massage therapist, massage therapy educator, and thoughtful human. We talked about being a massage therapist, and preparing new massage therapists -- getting all the way real about the challenges. ********** The Accidental Business Owner book: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/43069541-the-accidental-business-owner *********** Let us know what you think! Send us an email: podcast@healwell....
Rubber Barbers (History of Massage Part 2)
April 29, 2023 09:00 - 56 minutes - 77.7 MBThis week we continue our Corey-guided tour through the history of massage therapy in the Western world, from the FDA to present day. (Part 2 of 2.) We appreciate your patience with Cal and Kerry's poor audio quality. They're still in a can, but will be out for the rest of this season. ********** Maintenance Phase, featuring Bernarr McFadden: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-keto-diet/id1535408667?i=1000527972412 Black Panthers: Vanguard of the Revolution: http...
Ling-uistics (History of Massage Part 1)
April 22, 2023 09:00 - 40 minutes - 55.8 MBWe missed you! Have you missed us? Enough to listen to some thoughts from the bottom of a can? In this episode, Corey takes Rebecca, Kerry, and Cal on a tour through the history of massage in the Western world -- from rubbing to massage therapy, from cutaneous exercise to human potential. (Part 1 of 2.) We appreciate your patience with Cal and Kerry's poor audio quality. The conversation was so good that they called in from their travels just to join in. We're all back at o...
Roasting Marshmallows at the Dumpster Fire
March 25, 2023 09:00 - 48 minutes - 67.2 MBWe have a full house for this season finale episode. The whole Healwell Brain Trust gathers for a conversation about Season 10 -- what we have learned, and what is still missing. ********** Check out our live and online, on demand classes here: online.healwell.org ********** Corey's Systems Theory Reading list: Thinking in Systems: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3828902-thinking-in-systems Systems Thinking for Social Change: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/...
Intermissionary
March 11, 2023 10:00 - 24 minutes - 33 MBSometimes the planned episode falls through. In those times, we get together on the recording link and talk about the fun symposium we just had, and the classes we have coming up. Enjoy this short interim conversation. We'll be back with the Season 10 wrap up on March 25. ********** Free 2-week trail of the Healwell Community: https://community.healwell.org/sign_up?plan_id=436034 *********** Let us know what you think! Send us an email: [email protected] **********...
Hats!
March 04, 2023 10:00 - 1 hour - 88.5 MBMai Lin Petrine knows hats. She also knows what it takes to support the massage therapy profession through legal and regulatory challenges. Corey and Rebecca talk with Mai Lin about moody teenagers, Peter Pan, and the future of massage therapy. ********** Interstate Massage Therapy Compact: https://massagecompact.org *********** Let us know what you think! Send us an email: [email protected] *********** Support the podcast (and see the video of podcast episodes alo...
The Common Denominator is Humans
February 25, 2023 10:00 - 1 hour - 97.3 MBCal and Corey talk with Gordon MacDonald, Executive Director of the RMTBC about regulation, education, and the parallel paths of nursing and massage in Canada. This conversation explores our shared challenges of supporting a profession in transition. ********** Registered Massage Therapists' Association of British Columbia: www.rmtbc.ca *********** Let us know what you think! Send us an email: [email protected] *********** Support the podcast (and see the video of p...
Carefully Worded
February 18, 2023 10:00 - 58 minutes - 80.2 MBCal and Corey sit down with Debra Persinger, executive director of FSMTB to talk education, (de)regulation, and what it takes to keep both consumers and massage therapists safe. ********** Entry-Level Analysis Project (ELAP): https://www.elapmassage.org ********** Let us know what you think! Send us an email: [email protected] *********** Support the podcast (and see the video of podcast episodes along with extra conversation) on Patreon: patreon.com/interdiscipli...
It's Not Separate
February 11, 2023 10:00 - 1 hour - 88.2 MBCal talks with Andraéa LaVant about disability justice, intersectionality, and the real work of making just and accessible spaces. ********** Find out more about LaVant Consulting here: https://lavantconsultinginc.com *********** Let us know what you think! Send us an email: [email protected] *********** Support the podcast (and see the video of podcast episodes along with extra conversation) on Patreon: patreon.com/interdisciplinary ********** Continue the c...
The Myth of Canada (tm)
February 04, 2023 10:00 - 56 minutes - 77.6 MBLaura and Rebecca talk with Lori Green about how things are going in Saskatchewan, Canada. What does it mean to support the only unregulated health care profession in a province? How's it going with the drive for massage therapy regulation in Saskatchewan? And what can we learn from each other? ********** Let us know what you think! Send us an email: [email protected] *********** Support the podcast (and see the video of podcast episodes along with extra conversation...
Become Aware and Start Screaming
January 28, 2023 10:00 - 48 minutes - 66.2 MB"How do we stop people being interested in hierarchies and status?" This is just one of the questions Cal and Rebecca Barnett take on in part 2 of their conversation. ********** Association of Massage Therapists (Australia): https://www.amt.org.au/ *********** AMT Statements on Volunteering: https://www.amt.org.au/downloads/position-statements/AMT-Position-Statement-Volunteer-Massage.pdf https://www.amt.org.au/downloads/position-statements/AMT-Position-Statement-Orphan...
The Intimate Spaces of Other Humans
January 21, 2023 10:00 - 53 minutes - 73.7 MBWe are starting off in the deep end this season. Part 1 of this 2-part conversation with Rebecca Barnett begins with an exploration of the massage therapy landscape in Australia and United States and quickly goes deep into questions of identity and purpose in the profession. ********** Association of Massage Therapists (Australia): https://www.amt.org.au/ Continue the conversation in the Healwell Community: community.healwell.org ********** Support the podcast (and see the v...
Better, Fuller Humans
January 14, 2023 10:00 - 28 minutes - 39.7 MB4/5 of the Healwell Brain trust got together to do a little podcast time travel. Where did we come from? Where are we going? And how can you be a part of the future of Interdisciplinary. Featuring (in order of appearance): Cal Cates, Rebecca Sturgeon, Kerry Jordan, and Laura Bryant-Earner ********** Join our Patreon to support this podcast, and get access to episodes early, ad-free and on video: patreon.com/interdisciplinary *********** Join us in the Healwell Community: com...
Snowlatov Cocktail Party
December 31, 2022 10:00 - 24 minutes - 34.2 MBWe're not punchy, you're punchy. It was the day before the massive pre-holiday winter storm, and 4/5 of the Healwell Brain Trust got together to talk about what we learned this season and to -- once again -- talk about how excited we are for our February symposium. We have a couple of requests for emails in there, too. We are looking forward to hearing from you. We'll be back in mid-January for Season 10! ********** Join us in February for Within Reach: The Quest for Inform...
Failure is Feedback
December 24, 2022 10:00 - 50 minutes - 69.4 MBCorey and Cal sit down with Harry Pickens to talk more about information from the perspective of a (mostly) regular human who has had to master finding and disseminating information in the service of their own health. It's about discernment, it's about knowing yourself, and most of all -- it's about love. ********** Within Reach: The quest for information and research is happening soon! February 25-26, 2023. Massage therapists who attend will receive CEs from NCBTMB. Registe...
It's the User, Not the Tool
December 17, 2022 10:00 - 1 hour - 92.8 MBCorey really wants to know -- why do researchers like research so much? Matt Hudson joins Corey and Kerry to explore this question and get into the details about what makes discovery delightful, exciting, challenging, and infuriating. ********** Within Reach: The Quest for Information and Research, Healwell's virtual symposium is February 25-26. Earn NCBTMB-approved CEs while wearing comfy pants! Register here: https://www.healwell.org/literacy2023 ********** If you love this...
Make It Relevant
December 10, 2022 10:00 - 1 hour - 97.9 MBStatistics are amazing! No, really -- we found a fun, brilliant human to talk to us about using statistics to engage with the world in a more informed way. Lauren Fowler (who is basically the same as Charlie from Top Gun) helps Cal and Corey shine light on the back of their knees and make it make sense. ********** Within Reach: The Quest for Information and Research is February 25-26 (and is NCBTMB approved for CE hours): https://www.healwell.org/literacy2023 ********** CEs ...
The Toe Bone's Connected to the Leg Bone
December 03, 2022 10:00 - 1 hour - 83.8 MBCatherine Ryan is back!!! Our favorite Canadian former co-host, fascia nerd, and research-positive massage therapist joins us to talk about bringing research into practice. ********** Within Reach: The Quest for Information and Research is February 25-25, 2023. Join us for some learning from the comfort of your home. Grab your Early Bird price now: https://www.healwell.org/literacy2023 ********** If you want to learn even more from Cathy (and really, who wouldn't?) Check out...
Information Is Never What It Is
November 26, 2022 10:00 - 58 minutes - 80.5 MBWho runs the world? Librarians. Particularly pun-loving, loud librarians like this week's guest, Taylor Xiao. Corey and Cal enter the Matrix with Taylor to talk about the emotional labor-intense role of an academic librarian, the difference between information and knowledge, and how information is like Play-Doh. ********** Request CEs for this episode here: https://online.healwell.org/courses/interdisciplinary-s9-e5 ********** Within Reach: The Quest for Information and Res...
Lab Coats and Bunsen Burners
November 19, 2022 10:00 - 53 minutes - 73.1 MBCal and Corey sit down with Adrienne Asta, Board President of the Massage Therapy Foundation, fierce advocate for massage therapists, and all around wonderful human. After an unprecedented three-pun opening, they talk about what's next for MTF and how this organization is going to serve and support you in the coming months. ********** Within Reach: The Quest for Information and Research is February 25-26, 2023. Sign up now to lock in your early bird rate: https://www.healwel...
Definitely Not Tik Tok
November 12, 2022 10:00 - 55 minutes - 75.9 MBCorey and Cal talk with Whitney Lowe about the gigantic pot of gold that is information, and the most important skill that is also the most difficult to teach. (Hint: It's clinical reasoning.) ********** Within Reach: The Quest for Information and Research, Healwell's virtual symposium is in February 2023! Reserve your spot now: https://www.healwell.org/literacy2023 ********** You can get CEs for this episode! Click the link below to register, take the quiz and request your ...
Inclined to Over-Reference
November 05, 2022 09:00 - 1 hour - 88.5 MBCorey and Cal get into the weeds with Niki Munk and a conversation about the state of massage research -- including reflections on the high number of massage therapists who also have a theater degree. ********** CEUs are available for this episode! Take the quiz and request your certificate here: https://online.healwell.org/courses/interdisciplinary-s9-e2 ********** Learn more about (and register for) Within Reach: The Quest for Information and Research, Healwell's virtual s...
Light Through a Prism
October 28, 2022 09:00 - 55 minutes - 76.4 MBWelcome to Season 9! This season, Corey Rivera will take us on a journey through the wild world of information and research literacy. What do we know? How do we know it? What do we do with information? How does all of this relate to how we are with other humans? We have a whole season to talk about it, starting with the Healwell Brain Trust taking on left-handed cats, prisms, state songs, and alligators. ********** You can get CEs for listening! Follow this link for this epi...
I Can Get Behind That Kind of Lie
October 08, 2022 09:00 - 48 minutes - 66.4 MBThe Healwell Brain Trust is assembled to look back on the Season of the Switch. What have we learned? What have we unlearned? Put on your "It Depends" and grab a seat as we talk through this season, consider the question of honesty, and speculate on which Goonies character we would be. ********** Paul Laurence Dunbar's "We Wear the Mask": https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/44203/we-wear-the-mask ********** 80s sitcom Kate & Allie, that episode: https://www.imdb.com/title...
If I Had Been Seen Sooner
October 01, 2022 09:00 - 56 minutes - 78 MBPart 2 of our conversation with Frances Reed digs into questions around generations and growth edges, being seen and the possible benefits of needing to fight for your identity. Plus, baby otters and Frances' Nana. ********** Check out Frances' website for their classes and to pre-order their book on binding health and pain management: https://francesreed.com/ Or: HealthyBinding.com Frances is also on social media! Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/frances.reed.33 Linke...
Put Me At the Center
September 24, 2022 09:00 - 54 minutes - 74.5 MBWe had such a great conversation with Frances Reed that we made it into 2 episodes! In this first part of our conversation with Frances, we talk about code switching as a queer, trans, bodyworker, and educator. We delve into what happens in your body when you are actively unseen, and the process of tailoring your presentation for folks who might not be ready to witness your full identity. ********** Check out Frances' website for their classes and to pre-order their book on ...
Worthy of Care
September 17, 2022 09:00 - 1 hour - 82.6 MBJamil Rivers returns to the podcast to talk about code switching in health care, ongoing disparities that are causing actual harm, and her work in connecting people to the standard of care in cancer care. ********** Find Jamil's organization here: www.thechrysalisinitiative.org www.bcnavi.com ********** Continue the conversation with us in the Healwell Community: community.healwell.org ********** Let us know what you think! Email us at [email protected] ********** Abou...
No One is Going to Help You Do This
September 10, 2022 09:00 - 1 hour - 91.9 MBMatthew F. Hudson, Ph.D., M.P.H., joins us on the podcast to talk about code switching in a professional setting, the challenge of moving from the West Coast to the East Coast to the Southeast, and how all of this can affect personal and community health. ********** Let us know what you think! Send us an email at [email protected] ********** Continue the conversation with us in the Healwell Community: community.healwell.org ********** About Our Guest: Dr. Matthew F. Hudson...
People Just Want to Live
September 03, 2022 09:00 - 55 minutes - 75.5 MBChase Anderson's keynote was one of the highlights of our Just Care conference. We are delighted to welcome Chase back to talk about finding your safe place, being yourself, and making it possible for everyone around us to be themselves too. ********** Continue the conversation in the Healwell Community: community.healwell.org ********** For early access, bonus materials, and shenanigans, join our Patreon: patreon.com/interdisciplinary ********** About Our Guest: Dr. Chas...
Everyone is Afraid Sometimes
August 27, 2022 09:00 - 58 minutes - 79.9 MBWe are pleased to welcome Harry Pickens to today's episode. Harry shares his story of code switching in medical care, the links between trauma and code switching, and a clear vision of what our future could be like -- if we choose it. ********** We want to hear from you! Email us: [email protected] ********** Continue the conversation in the Healwell Community: community.healwell.org ********** Get early access to episodes, bonus content, and more at our Patreon: patreon...