Mark starts with his definition of “Agency” and how he has worked as an agent as a recruiter

How personal things got when finding work for someone

Jim brings up real estate agents

Mark share his relationship approach

Jim talks about his agency in the cabinet  business

Jim tells the story of his friend who managed the Seattle Mariners.  How the young pitcher didn’t negotiate his 35 million dollar deal…his agent did

Mark goes back to positioning the framework flywheel and the 5 key areas of life and the self

Mark reads the definition of agency from the dictionary

Mark talks more about how he acted as an agent as a recruiter

Jim talks about artists and athletes who’ve been abused by agents

He shares some stories about his real estate buddies and how valuable they are

Mark explains where that value lies

Jim expresses his perceived value of agents

The guys talk about attorney agency

Mark lays out agency in the 5 key areas of life

Jim disagrees and talks about how coaches shouldn’t get personal

Mark speaks to the difference between Jim and Mark’s positions

Jim speaks to the difference between agency and mentorship

Mark speaks about the difference life experiences between Mark and Jim

Mark brings up how important qualifying clients is and Jim concurs

…there has to b e alignment between agent and client

Mark tells how Jim has acted as his agent and vice versa

Jim thinks friends and family are often too close to be objective

Jim reminds us how important objectivity is

Mark appreciates being helped with his tendency to give people the benefit of the doubt

Jim brings up business agents and how you don’t even need to like him, just respect and trust him

Jim brings up his Patent attorney story

Mark wants strong expertise and integrity

Jim brings the difference between integrity and morality…murderers murder….integrity, not morality

Mark talks about what separates the guys from the competition

Jim brings up self awareness again and how you have to do the work

Mark relates his leadership work with another client and the assessment piece of that process

Progress is made incrementally.  Practice over time.  Accountability

Jim speaks to the value of having someone else to hold you accountable

Mark says the best coaches have coaches

We can’t make people ready but we can help people who are ready

Jim brings up depression.  With our help, optimism, a plan and advice we might help people avoid that darkness

To be your best self while the world changes

Mark relates his career coaching call from earlier and how much of his teaching comes from his failures

Jim engages with the time of year and reassessing life.  He speaks to the importance of a system, a framework

Jim likes his quotes “The only thing worse than no hope is false hope”

The only thing worse than no advice is bad advice”

Mark says it’s what makes the guys unique - wisdom

The guys end in agreement on who to get advice from

They end with imperfect and club (authentic and community)