Dr Peter McCullough - Vivek Ramaswamy, RFK Jr, Eco Health Alliance and the latest Myocarditis & Excess Death Data

It is an honour to have the world famous cardiologist Dr Peter McCullough join us on Hearts of Oak again.
We are getting a taster of the political shockwaves that are coming down the line with presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy recently saying that the public were duped on the COVID Jab and of course we have RFK Jr actively red-pilling the left.
And just in the last week we have seen another slew of data on vaccine harms and excess deaths.
The truth will be told and Dr McCullough is leading the vanguard as one of the main catalysts of getting this information out to the public.

Dr. Peter McCullough is an internist, cardiologist, epidemiologist, managing the cardiovascular complications of both the viral infection and the injuries developing after the COVID-19 vaccine in Dallas, TX, USA. Since the outset of the pandemic, Dr. McCullough has been a leader in the medical response to the COVID-19 disaster and has published “Pathophysiological Basis and Rationale for Early Outpatient Treatment of SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) Infection,” the first synthesis of sequenced multidrug treatment of ambulatory patients infected with SARS-CoV-2 in the American Journal of Medicine and subsequently updated in Reviews in Cardiovascular Medicine.
McCullough has 51 peer-reviewed publications on the infection and has commented extensively on the medical response to the COVID-19 crisis in The Hill, America Out Loud, and on FOX NEWS Channel.
On November 19, 2020, Dr. McCullough testified in the US Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs and throughout 2021 in the Texas Senate Committee on Health and Human Services, Colorado General Assembly, New Hampshire Senate, and South Carolina Senate concerning many aspects of the pandemic response.
Dr. McCullough has two years of dedicated academic and clinical efforts in combating the SARS-CoV-2 virus. In doing so, he has reviewed thousands of reports, participated in scientific congresses, group discussions, press releases, and been considered among the world’s experts on COVID-19.
Dr. McCullough is also known for his iconic views on the state of medical truth in America and around the globe.
He pierces through the thin veil of mainstream media stories that skirt the major issues and provide no tractable basis for durable insight. McCullough aims to bring critical information and insights to the viewers and listeners in a concise and understandable format.
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Transcript

(Hearts of Oak)

Hello, Hearts of Oak, and welcome to another interview coming up in a moment with Dr. Peter McCullough.

He re-joined us, having been with us last year, and we start on the political side.
I saw him at CPAC, and Vivek Ramaswamy, who is a US presidential candidate for the Republicans, said on a talk show he was duped, and the American people were duped, on COVID vaccines. He said if he was doing it again, he would do it differently. Wow. So I asked Dr. McCullough his thoughts on that, And then on his thoughts on Robert Kennedy Jr. standing for the Democrats and how that will blow up in the conversation on the left. Then we're going to just a number of reports and studies that have come out. Trida vaccine injury syndromes converges on victims and Dr. McCullough said this is what he's seen more and more regularly. This is the usual syndrome that he is seeing.
And long COVID, being vaxxed. So it seems as though there's a correlation with that, talking about mRNA in breast milk and the impact this has on pregnant women and their unborn children.
Then the reactivation of funding, federal funding for the Eco Health Alliance, unbelievable, but it is true. Even though they've been discredited, they've now been handed half a million dollars for funding. And then myocarditis, not recovering 80% of six months after vaccination, only 20% of young people are recovering within six months from myocarditis. And Dr. McCullough writes this in his sub stack that you need to go to and delve into this and understand this more deeply. And then we end up with excess deaths. Huge range of topics. And as always, Dr. McCullough brings his expert analysis to all of them.

And hello, Hearts of Oak. It is wonderful to have back with us once again, the world-renowned cardiologist and chief scientific officer of The Wellness Company.
That's Dr. Peter McCullough. Dr. McCullough, thank you for your time today.

(Dr Peter McCullough)

Thanks for having me.

Not at all. And I understand that you are one of the most published cardiologists ever in America.
I think it was a thousand publications and 660 citations. So you bring a wealth of understanding and knowledge and background to this. So I appreciate your time today.

Thank you. You know, people have always asked, what do all those citations mean?
You know, as a general rule in the National Library of Medicine, about 25 citations would qualify somebody to be a professor of medicine. And those who really race up in terms of their academic contributions, it just means they've looked at more data. There's been more scholarship.
I focused on heart and kidney disease at interaction, made key discoveries, led key innovative groups, you know, in many areas of medicine. I've led data safety monitoring boards for important drugs, devices, strategies, presented at the European Medicine Agencies, the National Institutes of Health, New York Academy of Sciences. So I was well known in medicine before COVID-19. Now, since the pandemic, I've directed my scholarship entirely to the, pandemic response, have over 60 peer-reviewed publications in this area, including the seminal papers describing the methods of treating COVID-19 to reduce hospitalization and death.

Wow, well I want to delve into the medical side but as I saw you at, as I said before, saw you whenever I was over at CPAC and you were always in many interviews being mobbed, but, if I could ask you some, two political thoughts I had. I saw that Vivek Ramaswamy, who's a candidate for presidential candidate, standing for the Republican side.
I think a few days ago, he had said, I think it was the Steve Deace show, that he well, he had had two doses of the jab, but he said that he was duped.
And I thought that was quite key. And then he went on to say if he was if he were to do it again, he wouldn't have done it the same way.
But that for him to say he was duped, what were your thoughts whenever you heard a presidential candidate saying something like that.

You know, we've been looking for some signals from the presidential candidates regarding the vaccines. The COVID-19 vaccine debacle is one of the biggest issues on the minds of Americans, and many of the candidates have been skirting around it. They just haven't addressed where they stood.
And congratulations to Steve Deace, a friend of mine who, you know, Ramaswamy is a young man.
He doesn't have considerable experience. You know, many think that young candidates, they're largely angling from some experience and maybe a cabinet position. But it was nice when Deace asked him directly about it, where he said he took the two shots, he regretted it. He felt America was duped. That means to be fooled or deceived by the government narrative. Said he would have done things differently. And so he left it open. I think that's journalists like yourself and others will have to ask him, well, what would he have done differently there? A young man like him who's thin and fit, there's no theoretical benefit of the vaccines, just the real harms, the real hard data on fatal and non-fatal vaccine injury syndrome. So he probably felt like he, later on, realized he took a personal risk with his health and regrets it.

Now, that's on the Republican side and I'm curious and intrigued to see how that's brought into the debate. But on the Democrat side, you have Robert Kennedy Jr.
And whenever he announced he was running, I was fascinated because he would be on the opposite political side as me.
But actually, during the last three years, you rub shoulders with people you wouldn't normally. And he has been extremely vocal throughout his whole life on vaccines.
And what were your thoughts on that? Because I think that could just blow the whole discussion, because again, you're thinking to the Democrat side, this conversation maybe hasn't been had as fully as maybe on the right.
And him stepping into that, to me that changes the whole conversation.

It certainly does. Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who's the son of the late Bobby Kennedy, our former attorney general, and the nephew of John F. Kennedy, certainly comes from a storied, family history of politics. He's a lifelong Democrat. He's not anti-vaccine. I know him very well. He's simply pushing for safe and effective vaccines. He doesn't want to see any more Americans harmed by vaccine side effects. The benefits of any vaccine are not, compelling enough to have harm done to the population. And we know since 1986, all the vaccine manufacturers have liability protection. So that isn't fair when someone is paralyzed or has a terrible side effect from a vaccine. And I think pretty clearly he believes no one should, receive any pressure, coercion, or threat of reprisal for vaccines. It shouldn't be mandated for school or for employment or military service. And we should have, all the states in the country should have full tripartite vaccine exemptions, meaning philosophical exemption, don't feel like you don't need to take it on philosophical grounds, religious and medical. So there should be freedom. He's pushing for freedom. This is very important. Medical freedom is related to social and economic freedoms. They're all related. And that's what I told America when I gave my Lincoln Memorial address. You know, that was a few minutes before Kennedy was up on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial with me. So I think we're very well aligned on this. You know, what I find interesting is that the COVID Community States Program weighed in from North-eastern University and Harvard, and a huge sample. So they actually figured out who took the vaccine. And the answer is in America, 25% of adult Americans, like me, did not take the vaccine. I didn't take the COVID vaccine. Best decision I ever made. I feel great. I don't have to worry about blood clots or heart damage or any of these lingering effects that we're seeing now. So many people who skipped the vaccine are so grateful they made the right choice. So that 25%, many of them actually suffered reprisal for doing this. They lost their jobs, family strife. There was a lot of unnecessary consequences that happened to people who made the right decision. Now, We only have 60% of the adult Americans who vote, only 60% vote.
The 25% who didn't take the vaccine like me are likely to vote.
So now we have nearly half of the voting block for the presidency where the vaccine is the issue.
And everybody wants to know where do the candidates stand on the failed COVID-19 vaccines.

That uptick really intrigued me and it's something that's come out in the UK that we now have a database you can put in your zip code for you over there or postcode and you can find out supposedly the uptake and one of the striking things on that is the booster uptick is around 1 to 2% in many areas and I probably didn't necessarily believe a lot of the data that were getting. But that 25% that didn't, I thought, wow, there's at last some honesty with the figures. And I guess you looking at these figures of the last three years, there's been massive scepticism of the information we're being told.

Well, I'm glad you mentioned that because as the COVID Community States Program, which was an academic epidemiologic program, as they were reporting 25% unvaccinated, the CDC at that time was reporting 8% unvaccinated.
Well, what's the difference? And the answer is the CDC was over counting.
If patients forgot their vaccine card, they went to a different pharmacy, they could have had a new card started at the booster stage and been counted again.
So we now know that the CDC does not have accurate vaccination data.
There tended to be overestimating vaccination.
Our CDC is currently reporting 16% booster uptake, and that's almost certainly an overestimate.
We need to know booster uptake by time.
Because the boosters only last theoretically six months. Clinically, it's about half of that.
So no matter who took a booster more than six months ago, they're effectively unvaccinated.

Yeah. If I can just discuss some of the things you've posted, even just the last week on Twitter, and of course, if people go to your Twitter handle, they can get the link to your Substack, the website, everything is there and encourage people to to sign up.
Certainly your Substack, which has been a fantastic source of information for many of us.
And one of the actually it was America Outloud.com, which I know you write for, had the headline you put up a few days ago was try to vaccine injury syndromes converges on victims.
It said amongst the most common and frustrating COVID-19 vaccine injury syndromes are small fibre neuropathy, pleurodynia and POTS, which I can't even pronounce what's there, and you had a lady who came on and acted as if she was going to see her doctor and discussed what, but tell us about some, because we hear all different side effects and we'll maybe touch on myocarditis a little bit, but it was those three coming together and it seems to be every week, every two weeks, there's another issue that comes up.

It's true, but this triad that I pointed out far and away is the most common constellation. I've been seeing patients now with vaccine injuries now for two years, you know, steady flow in the clinic, so I really have a good handle on this.
And so the triage is the following. One is pleurodynia, just some nonspecific chest pain.
Sometimes it hurts to cough or take a deep breath or laugh. Sometimes when they put pressure on the chest, one can feel pain, which is called pleurodynia. The next one is a small fibre neuropathy, that is feeling numbness and tingling, prickling in the hands and the feet, usually sometimes the back of the legs.
And then the third is POTS or Posterior Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome. And patients will recognize this because their heart rate unexpectedly will shoot up when they're doing nothing, then go down. Blood pressure up and down. When they exercise, things seem to be out of proportion to what they need in terms of exercise, and they feel generally unwell. And so I was lucky enough to have a patient reach out to me. She's very sophisticated, and she gave consent, and she told us her story and she had that triad.
And I went through the questions I would ask her, the tests I would order to rule out serious problems like myocarditis, like major problems in the central nervous system, et cetera.
And then what medicinal empiric approach would I take?
And for the pleurodynia, the drug I prescribed the most is called Colchicine.
This is a form of an anti-inflammatory. There's about two dozen trials in acute COVID-19 showing that it plays a role. So we know it's helpful there.
The largest one of note's called the CO-Corona trial done out of the Montreal Heart Institute, over 4,000 subjects, probably the best and largest outpatient COVID study.
So colchicine is also used to treat gout and forms of inflammation.
So it seems to be very important for the pleurodinium.
For the POTS, the posterior orthostatic tachycardia syndrome.
That's actually too much adrenaline being released from the sympathetic chain of ganglia in the neck as well as the adrenal glands.
And I found that it was a relatively underutilized beta blocker called Natalo, which has what's called intrinsic sympathomimetic activity.
It seems to modulate the alpha and beta receptors just the way we need in order for that nervous system feedback loop to the brain to be corrected.
And then the final triage in this entire problem is actually dissolving the spike protein itself, which is loaded up with COVID-19, the illness and serial vaccines.
Remember, we get spike protein in our body, we can't get it out for months, if not a year or more, after the infection, as well as the vaccines. Each shot of the vaccine installs large amounts of spike protein.
There we're utilizing nattokinase.
Nattokinase is a natural enzyme that's derived from the fermentation of soy is discovered by the Japanese.
A bacteria that breaks it down is Bacillus subtilis natto.
And it creates this fermented product as an enzyme. The Japanese have been using it for over a thousand years.
That is eat consuming natto. But we now have a supplement they've used for about two decades.
They use it for cardiovascular applications. a form of a blood thinner, so it's a serious supplement to take. The current recommended dose is 2,000 fibrinolytic units or 100 milligrams twice a day, it's well within the range of safety. It's been safety tested up to 80,000 units at a single time, so it's well within the safety limit.
The caveats are bleeding, mucosal bleeding from the nose or mouth, and then a soy allergies.
Otherwise, it is a safe supplement.
It's not immediate that this three-component therapeutic program works, but most patients after two months, they start to come back and they start to feel like they're on the way back.
So I wanted to share that. Many of the doctors that are sought out nowadays are with The Wellness Company.
I advise that company as a chief scientific officer so they're well aware of that approach.
But I have to tell you, that's my most common approach I use in clinic and I'm glad we finally found something that can help people through this.
I've tried hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, fluvoxamine, prednisone, a whole variety of different drugs and I've really settled on these three. Two prescription drugs and then one over-the-counter supplement.

That's really helpful. And I think many people are concerned that if they did have any of these and they went to see their normal doctor, that actually in the doctor's mind would not be thinking that actually these could be related and therefore their concerns could be dismissed.

I agree. The first question a patient should ask a doctor is, did they take the COVID vaccine and did they push it on their patients?
And if they did, the patient ought to have a serious conversation with it because that doctor made some grave mistakes with his or her own healthcare and obviously pushed a dangerous vaccine on their patients.
And we now know large numbers of people have died after the vaccine, have suffered injuries or disabilities, and those doctors really owe their patients an apology.

There was another tweet, you said, most people with long COVID are vaxxed, so multiple spike protein exposures are making Americans sick.
And I know I've talked to UK friends and US friends, they seem to think the solution to long COVID is getting a booster and another booster.
And tell me, tell us about that, because people are ill and with long COVID and some people it's quite a dark journey.

It's true. Long COVID, remember this occurred before the vaccine, so the respiratory illness clearly causes it. It almost exclusively occurs in people who are sick enough to be hospitalized, about 50% will have it. They feel generally unwell, weight loss of skeletal muscle, hair loss, skin and nail changes, headache, ear ringing, fatigue, brain fog. It really bothers people.
Now, with lesser degrees of severity of COVID, there's less and less long COVID.
The best way to prevent it is actually early treatment.
If we can snuff out the virus very early and get relatively little exposure to the virus in the body, that's the best way to do it.
We again believe what's driving this is the pathogenic spike protein, the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein.
Now, the vaccines install more spike protein.
So there's no way the vaccine can make it better. It's going to clearly make it worse.
But what we have in many countries, a good example is Australia, I was just there a few months ago.
Virtually all of Australia was pre-vaccinated.
They were all pre-vaccinated. Because the vaccines don't work, they get COVID anyway.
So those who are having long COVID, it's far more severe in Australia because they've been pre-vaccinated and they've been loaded with the spike protein.
So then we have to work our way out of it. But I wouldn't want anybody to think we should take a vaccine to reduce the chances of long COVID because the vaccines don't work, people get COVID anyway, and it just makes the long COVID syndromes worse.
And so as we sit here today, a paper by Claussen and colleagues from Harvard suggests that 94% of Americans have already had COVID.
I've already told you 75% took vaccines. So anybody with long COVID likely has had both exposures.

Yeah, absolutely. There was another study or news piece from Trialsite News and that was on maternal mortality skyrocketing, gestational thrombotic complications up and MRA in the breast milk. And I think the MRA in the breast milk, that should fill a lot of people with big concern. I know that's been talked about before, but I mean, tell us about this because you end that tweet by saying COVID vaccine should never have been allowed in pregnant women.

Early in 2021, Dr. Raphael Stricker in San Francisco, who runs, by the way, the largest fetal loss centre in the United States, he's an expert. He's an allergist, immunologist, but he's an expert on pregnant women and losing their babies. And Dr. Stricker and I published in trial site news that the COVID-19s were vaccine category X, and that's a regulatory category saying that they have a dangerous mechanism of action. They install the lethal spike protein in the body, and we have no experience in pregnant women. They were excluded from randomized trials and no assurances would be safe to the woman or the baby, none whatsoever.
So it's pregnancy category X. It's very important. Pregnant women should have never taken the vaccine. Never, never. It doesn't matter what the doctors say. Pregnant women are responsible for themselves, their bodies, and their babies. Now, pregnant women have a lower risk of severe COVID outcomes as shown by Pinellas and colleagues in a paper in Annals of Internal Medicine. So, we weren't worried about pregnant women. If they got severe COVID, they're treatable, you know, and we can treat them with an array of drugs. By the way, hydroxychloroquine, very safe in pregnancy. We've, you know, it's been actually dedicated pregnancy studies with hydroxy. So, so we know for sure it's safe, as is aspirin, prednisone, and the other drugs that we normally use.
Now, what's coming out is very, very disturbing. First, last summer in JAMA, a paper by Hannah and colleagues showed that breastfeeding women who take the vaccine, they actually are transmitting the messenger RNA through milk to the babies.
And this is a terrible, very worrisome finding. Now genetic material getting into the bodies of recently arrived babies in the world.
No idea what this is gonna do to the children. It can't be good.
It's definitely not natural.
The next piece of information came, first author is Hoyert, a single author paper, analysing data from the National Centre for Health Statistics.
And there, it's published on the CDC website, March of 2023, showing record maternal mortality.
That is, women dying during pregnancy or 42 days after the pregnancy.
That was the definition according to their highest risk group, African Americans, but at all groups. They've erased progress in maternal mortality. Now, in the same sub-stack, I juxtapose the CDC report that indicates 65% of pregnant women have either taken the vaccine, ill-advised, before or during pregnancy. Despite our warnings that it's pregnancy category X, now we have the tragic case that unfolded last week of the death of U.S. Olympic sprinter Tori Bowie. And what we know there is this is just absolutely terrible. She's found dead at home, and she's seven months pregnant. The U.S. Track and Field Association has mandated COVID-19 vaccination, so they've been silent now. USTAF and family have been silent on whether or not she took the vaccine. But the concern is that she took it, and she had a fatal complication, either blood clot, heart damage, or some type of intracranial catastrophe.

Wow, wow. And of course, we have learned, I think just could have been yesterday, about the reactivation of federal funding for Eco Health Alliance. To touch on that, because obviously,
your government, our government, they haven't learned anything over these last three years.

I think it's very intentional. Peter Daszak, who's the president of the Eco Health Alliance, they're basically an NIH contractor. They work with academic groups. They take the blueprint for viruses that are basically engineered in the lab by computer modelling by US researchers, and then they shuttle the plans over to the Chinese or other Asian countries where the the work is done in order to create new viruses.
Daszak was involved in shuttling over the plans from Ralph Baric to create the chimeric SARS-CoV-2 virus.
And Baric published this in 2015 in Nature Communications and proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
They created SARS-CoV-2 and published the methods and how they did it, chimeric parts, of a virus from a bat, parts of a virus from a known coronavirus in order to get it to invade a human respiratory epithelial tract. Peter Daszak, early in 2021, led a group of doctors.
After they had met on a conference call with Anthony Fauci and Francis Collins and Jeremy Farrar from the Wellcome Trust in the UK, Daszak led a group of authors to publish one of a series of papers. It was a dozen academic papers that were intentionally fraudulent. They were deceiving the public, describing the virus came out of nature when Daszak himself knew it came out of basically his plans that he drew up with Ralph Baric at the University of North Carolina Chapel Hill. This was an intentional cover-up campaign. This came out in the U.S. House Select Committee for the Coronavirus Origins, led by House Representative Comer, and it's shocking that the NIH, and actually the branch that Fauci used to lead, the National
Immunology Infectious Disease and Allergy Branch, that they actually released his former R01 grant.
His R01 grant was distilled to look among different bats to try to find viral strains that could jump into humans. I mean, it's just simply asking for trouble. Daszak is off, and you know, these are small grants, it was only about $500,000. It's not the size of the grant that matters, it's the fact that he's going to be able to now shuttle academic capital to Asia. Daszak says that now he's going to take this to the Duke University branch in Singapore, but the grant describes the bat caves in China going right back to the same work. So you're right. It appears as if the NIH is wilfully blind to this active cover-up.
They don't care.
They're pursuing this biological threat research. They must have been given orders high up to continue to do this.
We have the National Security Administration, the FBI,
Department of Energy and NIH, the House and the Senate all agreeing that the origin of SARS-CoV-2 was the lab. It was a US innovation contracted to the Chinese, and it leaked out of the lab in Wuhan, China. But to continue to pursue this, many are saying, and I agree, that it's reckless, it's irresponsible, and it really shows deep complicity that the biopharmaceutical complex is at work creating more biological threats for the world. And Peter Daszak is leading the way.

Well, let's certainly watch what happens on that. On the, back to the specific medical side.
You had written a piece on your website, and I think the headline was, myocarditis not recovering 80% at six months after vaccination. Tell us about it, because again, people are expecting that the body can recover quickly, but this says that only 20% of people with that had recovered over six months.

Another disturbing report, this comes from Yale School of Medicine. They had 17 young teenagers in the hospital with myocarditis.
Remember, teenagers should be going to high school. They shouldn't be hospitalized with myocarditis. They ill-advised took one of the COVID-19 vaccines and they got in deep trouble.
Sky-high troponin levels showing heart damage, probably had chest pain, shortness of breath, arrhythmias, other manifestations, and they undergo serial MRIs. Now, they did rule out any exposure to COVID, so that was very clean. This is purely due to the vaccine.
And they found that in 80%, the MRI at 200 days was not getting better. 20% it got better. You know, these small areas of late gadolinium enhancement that we see on MRI, they should resolve. Previous work done years ago by Bruckman and colleagues from Germany showed that the heart can remodel a small area of inflammation. I'm concerned that the genetic material, Pfizer and Moderna, is sufficiently long-lasting, the spike protein long-lasting, the body keeps producing more of it, that the children have ongoing cardiac injury and it's not clearing up on MRI.
This could leave some to have a scar, and when they have a scar they could be at increased risk for two things, heart failure later on in life or cardiac arrest, particularly with sports.

Wow, and on sports, we've seen a number of sports stars. The papers seem to be regularly full of another sports star having retired early or having complications.
I mean, tell us about, because the stories are there, but maybe the dots are not necessarily being joined up.

Well, let's take the issue of death in young people. There's a paper on my substack that I quote from about 15 years ago, and you can find it on the Courageous Discourse sub-stack, but it was basically describing death among college students. It does happen rarely.
But the point of the paper was 87% of the time, we know the cause of death.
Readily apparent, you know, cancer or suicide or homicide or a drug overdose, motor vehicle accident.
What we're seeing now is scores of athletes, scores, sudden death and no explanation, no explanation at all.
And it's called died suddenly, Edward Dowd has compiled an entire monograph on this in the life insurance roles of sudden unexplained death skyrocketing, mortality skyrocketing in every system.
John Stockton, former Utah Jazz star, is keeping track of the athletes in the United States and there's hundreds now that have died, have died on the court or in practice.
It seems to be the adrenaline that precipitates the sudden death with vaccine-induced myocarditis.
And we knew actually before the COVID vaccines that we can't let young people with myocarditis exercise because it will trigger a sudden death event. So we knew this ahead of time.
And what's happened is the sports teams have mandated the vaccines, but they haven't provided any safety safeguards for the athletes. And so they suffer heart damage. And then during competition, we never know who's going to have a cardiac arrest. Polycritus and myself analysed this issue, using really just a blog, a public blog of European athletes went down. But it's pretty rigorous. There had to be four or more reports, and you could easily identify that the athlete went down. And the data showed this, that before COVID-19, in the stable period of about 10 or 15 years before COVID-19, the number of cardiac arrests in Europe in the professional leagues, mainly soccer and rugby, but you call football.
Age 35 and below, pro and semi-pro, number of cardiac arrests 29 per year.
Now, fast forward with vaccination and in 2021 forward, that number came out now, you know, comparing apples to apples, 283. So there's about a tenfold increased risk of sudden death with mass-mandated COVID-19 vaccination. We have clear fatal cases of the COVID-19 vaccines causing myocarditis and sudden death with autopsies, so we know it's happening. And now the great concern is so many athletes have taken it, and they want to know what to do. They have great regret. It's been an absolute horror for our athletes unnecessarily to be vaccinated.

A story that came out just today, and again we're seeing headlines that we wouldn't have seen a year ago, I think you're probably the same there, but the headline was, I had to reread this four or five times, the headline in the Daily Mirror was, Brits are dying in their tens of thousands and we don't really have any idea why.
And they talked about between May and December 2022, that 32,000 excess deaths.
And to have a headline that honest, we really have no idea.
That's telling. And I'm assuming, I don't know whether it's in the States, whether you are beginning to, the media are beginning to drop little headlines like that in to begin to have the conversation or not yet.

No, it's starting to happen. I was on national TV this morning and the morning anchor mentioned death after vaccination, so it's starting to come up.
What we know is that every mortality system is reporting skyrocketing mortality, primarily of younger individuals.
A paper published by Skidmore in BMC Infectious Diseases estimated in 2021 that 278,000 Americans had died due to the vaccine. And that matches roughly what VAERS was reporting for that year with a multiplier of about 30. It's very consistent with a paper from Columbia, same year, Pentecost and Seligman. So we have multiple sources of data. We think we lost about a quarter million Americans in the first year of the campaign due to the vaccine, a similar number in the next year.
We may be over 600,000. Now, that's going to exceed the amount of casualties we had in the civil war. So this is a very, very serious problem. The vaccines were considered a wartime countermeasure. So the government agencies didn't consider it a public health measure.
It's not considered like a standard pharmaceutical. It's considered like basically a war initiative, where there's going to be casualties. And boy, have there been casualties with this vaccine. So, before COVID, the general mortality that we had in the United States, or in UK for that matter, is known. And then it's 40% known antecedent heart disease, 40% known cancer, or 20% other causes. But in the vast majority, it's known. Death is not a mystery in our countries. And what we're seeing now is just a large fraction where they've taken a vaccine and they've died, and the official cause of death is unknown.
And when autopsies are done, two papers, one by Schwab, one by Chavez, and there's been probably about 100 necropsy studies that we're compiling at this stage, they show that when an autopsy is done, 70 to 80% of the time, they have a clear-cut cause of death that's, related to the vaccine. Fatal myocarditis, fatal intracranial haemorrhage or clotting, blood clots and pulmonary embolism, or one of the fatal immunologic syndromes. These are published in well-described vaccine-induced thrombotic thrombocytopenic peria, multi-system inflammatory disease. So we have a huge scientific base that's indicating the vaccines are essentially killing large numbers of people worldwide.

And is it possible that we could get to the point where any of these companies are liable for it, or is it irrelevant who's in the White House because they've been given that protection?

People have said that two conditions may ultimately drop liability shields.
The broad liability is not only from the 1986 Vaccine Indemnification Act, but also from the 2005 Prep Act, which says, listen, if we have an invasion of SARS-CoV-2, it's like a war. And so the wartime countermeasures are all, you know, have immunity. But the, two conditions are fraud, that if the public was defrauded by the vaccine manufacturers or the government agencies that were advancing them, the employers that were forcing them.
And then the other is actually malicious intent, that indeed, if it was intentionally designed to be harmful, maybe documents would, you know, identify intent. But fraud and malicious intent are the two things that lawyers are looking at most closely. Because, you know, some of these cases are very obvious. Some take the vaccine, they die right in the vaccine centre, or they die the next day. Now, in the UK, as well as the United States, our government, by the way, holds both datasets. They have the entire death database, and they have the vaccine administration database. And if they merge them, we can see how many people die in the first day, in the second day, and look at the temporal relationship. Any death within 30 days, according to regulatory practice, should be assigned to the new drug, in this case the COVID-19 vaccine.

And what's the, I mean, I had Tom Fitton on a few days ago from Judicial Watch, and they use freedom of information requests, which we have the same system here.
They use it at another level than I've seen before. But will that have to be used as a way to get the data?
Because obviously some of the data that had been released from Pfizer, there's so much and it's still been gone through.
Will it have to be other freedom of information requests to get more of this data to actually put the jigsaw together.

It's true. Well, you point out that the pharmaceutical companies kept their own separate safety data by obligation to the U.S. FDA for 90 days after release. So anything that happens 90 days after they release the product, they have to record everything. Pfizer had recorded 1,223 deaths within a few hours or a few days of taking their vaccine. So it should have been off the market in January of 2021, and Pfizer did not want to release that to the American public. They got a lawyer. The lawyer for the FDA wanted to block it for 55 years. So that was evidence that the US government is colluding with Pfizer to basically hide safety data in the Pfizer vaccine. Moderna still has not released their 90-day data, neither has Janssen or Novavax. So immediately, there should be strong calls for release of the safety data. It should be done under the prosecutorial power of the U.S. Congress, Senate, Department of Justice, Freedom of Information Act, but that's pretty slow and that's citizen-driven. We need our government agencies to step up and have the companies release the data. I mean, I want to know, is Moderna the same or even worse than Pfizer?
I suspect it is, because all the studies that directly compared Moderna and Pfizer show greater toxicity with Moderna. There's a paper by Busby and colleagues on myocarditis that showed that.
So, you know, our regulatory agencies, FDA, CDC, NIH, MHRA in the UK, and TGA in Australia, they have grossly let us down. They're actually participating in a fraudulent cover-up of a worldwide COVID-19 vaccine safety debacle.

Just my final thought about you as a medical professional, and I've talked to UK doctors and they find it extremely difficult.
Those who have spoken up, they've been punished. They've been pulled in front of disciplinary committees.
And I know you've suffered as well. What is what is that like?
And can doctors be vocal about their concerns or really have many had to stay quiet and how has it affected you?

Doctors all need to step up. People are dying. They've died with the virus, untreated, and they've died now with the vaccine. This is not a time for doctors to be silent. They need to be bold and relentless, bring the truth forward. I haven't had a single doctor of my medical standing, the chief of medicine or division chief in cardiology or other medical specialty, actually ever look me in the eyes or send me an email or give me a call on the phone.
Not a single one. They're absolutely ashamed of themselves. And I've had attacks from anonymous fact checkers making false claims. I've had attacks through certified letter or email, essentially trying to strip me of all my credentials. And every one of these attempts, I just get stronger. I've got a very, very strong voice out there in the world right now, and everybody knows it. I've given more media analysis. I've done more publications, more stage presentations on this issue than all the public health officials combined.
And you can't find an area where I've been wrong or where I've been inconsistent.
My views have changed as the virus has mutated, but I've been accurate and you know, the world knows it.
And because I have so much media exposure, I have more than the public health officials.
The world is coming to me and doctors in my circles for the truth.
I think these government agencies and the biopharmaceutical complex is in trouble, and they're looking for the exits right now.
We've had Francis Collins, head of the NIH, retire prematurely.
Anthony Fauci, head of NIAID.
We've seen now Rochelle Lewinsky, just two and a half years in the CDC, and a young woman, very junior, now leave the CDC. People are heading for the exits because they know they've committed wrongdoing.

Dr. Peter McCullough, thank you so much for your time today. It's an honour to speak with you. Thank you.

Thanks for having me. Be sure to follow me on my website, petermcullochmd.com.
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