Previous Episode: 43. Donne Bretecher
Next Episode: 45. Andrew Stephenson

Jonathan De Potter is the founder of Behold Retreats, a company that gives people the opportunity to book an adventure containing a safe experience with plant based medicines like ayahuasca and psilocybin.  He and Mike discuss some of the truths and misconceptions about these exotic plants and the power contained within them. This podcast contains a lot of good food for thought.