Women's Transformation

Women's Transformation with Maverick Willett

Hello! My name is Maverick Willett and I am a ISSA Certified Personal Trainer & Fitness Nutritionist, former army ranger and former collegiate basketball player with a passion for helping women and mothers lose weight and regain control of their bodies.

Growing up, my parents were both competitive bodybuilders and taught me a great deal about the importance of taking care of our bodies. I have been in the fitness industry for over a decade and have a fitness and nutrition coaching business named "Maverick Online Coaching" with my wife, Sophie, where we are on a mission to help women feel more confident about themselves by taking care of their mind and body.

You may have seen me as "Dagr" the norse sun god in Sunbutter commercials or as a sponsored & featured athlete for BSN. However, most of the time I am feverishly working remotely with my clients, staying up-to-date on the latest information about nutrition, or spending time with my wife and our son who was just born in 2020!

I believe that women need balance and sustainability, especially those that have a family and kids. There are so many "fad" diets out there that are causing more harm than good for women. My goal is to go beyond giving a guide - I teach women WHY they should eat certain foods and give them the tools to succeed long term.

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Roy - Feeding Fatty (00:00:02):

Hello, and welcome to another episode of feeding fatty I'm Roy I'm Terry. So, you know, we are the show that, uh, we are chronicling our journey. My journey Terry is my helper support. You know, I'm the one that actually, uh, needs to get in better shape, lose some weight, improve a lot of, um, health issues. So, um, I appreciate her for doing that. I couldn't make it without her. And so, you know, we on this show, we try to Chronicle our journey, things that we're learning, uh, mistakes that we've made, trying to help others. But we also, uh, have, uh, guests that, um, you know, professionals in their field that can really come on and add more value to our listeners. So today we are fortunate enough to have Maverick Willett. Uh, he is an I S S a certified personal trainer, a fitness, and nutritionalists our fitness nutritionalists. He is a former army ranger and former collegiate basketball player with the passion for helping women and mothers lose weight and regain control of their bodies. Uh, growing up, both of his parents were competitive bodybuilders and taught him a great deal about the importance of taking care of our bodies. Um, my average, thanks a lot for taking time out of your day to be with us. We certainly do appreciate it.

Maverick (00:01:21):

Thank you. I appreciate you too. Thanks for having me. I'm just happy to be here. Yeah.

Roy - Feeding Fatty (00:01:26):

Yeah. And one thing I didn't I failed to mention is that, you know, that is kind of your specialty is that you are focusing, uh, pretty much explicitly on women's transformation. Uh, not only that, but after giving birth, uh, you know, so that, that is kind of where your, um, your focus has been for the last year or so, is that correct?

Maverick (00:01:51):

Yes. Yes, we do. I focus primarily on women and moms and, uh, yeah, this is something that we decided to do about you're going in this industry. You want to niche down and, and that was who I resonated with the most and knew I love working with and who Sophie loves working with. So it just kind of naturally happened. Yeah.

Roy - Feeding Fatty (00:02:07):

Yeah. And we do want to say that if, uh, we had a little pre a show discussion and your wife is part of your partnership, so y'all work together, even though she's not on here with us today, correct.

Maverick (00:02:20):

Somebody has got to watch say, I get to be with you guys eight month old. Is that what you said? Wow. We're so lucky. He sleeps through the night. He's um, he's been a good baby. I mean, we, we feed them the same stuff we eat, we just puree it for him. And we went away from the Gerber stuff and this stomach is so much better for it. And he's just growing like a weed or we're so lucky, easily. He's a great baby.

Roy - Feeding Fatty (00:02:51):

Yeah. Two happiest days of your life. Uh, you know, when your children are born and then the second one is when you get them off your payroll. So you can look forward to that one.

Roy - Feeding Fatty (00:03:05):

Uh, well, if you don't mind, let's just start out with, tell us a little bit about how you ended up here. I know that you are, um, a former army and an athlete. Your parents were both competitive bodybuilders. So, I mean, it's, it's a little bit built into your DNA, the fitness portion of this, but, uh, you know, you were saying that I really want to hear your story, that, you know, you were, uh, doing this on the side, had another job, and you finally just said, this is what I want to do. Um, I'm not looking back and I'm going to make a success of this. So tell us a little bit about that, um, uh, transformation.

Maverick (00:03:42):

Yeah, of course. Um, so, uh, yeah, I, I was in the military. I got, I got out and was having some trouble finding, you know, my calling, I guess you could say, um, like you said, fitness is kind of ingrained in my DNA. My parents were, were both competitive bodybuilders. So I grew up in that culture of fitness and, uh, watching my mom, especially growing up, we had a very unique relationship. I mean, I didn't out bench press my mom. So I was like 17 years old. So, um, that was a pretty loose. And so that was a very unique upbringing to compete with them in, in the gym and, and have that kind of bond. It was a very solid bond that we build just that mutual exertion, um, pushing each other and, and achieving that stuff daily. And we had a home gym.

Maverick (00:04:24):

And so it was something we did every day together. So, you know, and learning how to eat my mom, very, very smart with nutrition. My dad was more of a, if it fits your macros kind of guy, but she was really dialed in. And, um, that, that got me a foundation of knowledge at a very young age of how to eat, change your body. And so I took that with me in my athletic career and my military career for performance then, and then now to help people change their lives through nutrition and holistic holistically, especially, and kind of heal metabolisms from the, the fad dieting out there, the misinformation and give people a blueprint for success for the rest of the lives. But like you said, I was up till two years ago, I was working. Um, I've worked several different jobs. I was in car sales for awhile and nothing against car sales.

Maverick (00:05:07):

Um, I, I enjoy, I enjoyed working in the sales field, but it just wasn't enjoying what I was doing. And I had this thing on the side that I loved doing it. I loved helping people change their bodies and use my platform on social media to do that. And I was like, there's gotta be more here. And I saw other people doing it. And eventually I actually hired a business coach to help me figure out how to, how to do that. And once I figured out how to grow my, uh, the, the part-time job I was doing, it exploded. And I said, you know, okay, I have to make a decision. They're both taken away from each other. I can't be good at car sales and grow this at the same time. And it's that, this is what I love. I'm going to do this no matter what. And I took that leap of faith. I'm into uncertainty. I had the secure quote, unquote secure job here with a 401k. And I had this unknown here. And I said, I'm going to regret it forever if I don't give this a shot. So I did, I never looked back. It exploded

Maverick (00:05:58):

And it's been growing, ever says, I'm so grateful every day to wake up and do what I love doing. And I was fortunate enough a year and a half later for Sophie, my wife to leave her full-time job and, and help me grow it as well, because it just grew beyond one person's capacity to handle. So we're very lucky. And now I get to do that every single day.

Roy - Feeding Fatty (00:06:16):

It's awesome. Yeah. That's such a great story because, uh, you know, as we said earlier to any transformation, if it's career career relationships are, you know, our relationship with food exercise, we've got to come to that realization that, you know, we're going to push just forward and, um, be successful because as long as we have one foot on each side of the, uh, the line there, you know, and it will just take, uh, eating as long as you're, uh, you know, kind of still nibbling on some, uh, candy and chips and things like that. It's really hard to commit to the being healthy. You gotta just go all in and, uh, do everything that you possibly can to make it work.

Maverick (00:06:59):

Yeah. We're conditioned to stay in our comfort zone, right. We're conditioned to avoid, um, any kind of what unquote danger when we are conditioned self from ages zero to 10, and keep that from doing anything that could, that could bring that dangerous. So we, we live in a condition state of living in fear and approval. We want other people's approval. We fear the judgment and we fear leaving our comfort zone. And so that's where I was. I was in my comfort bubble and I was afraid to take a step into the unknown. And like you're saying, that's, that's a huge thing with, with nutrition as well. A lot of people have patterns that they're used to and their behavior that has been conditioned in their mind or internal narrative. Um, and it's how they cope with things in their life. And then taking a step outside that it takes time and thinks it's a fearful step for a lot of people.

Terry - Feeding Fatty (00:07:45):

So, um, I'm going to ask a loaded question. I mean, I'm sure there are many ways you could answer it. I don't know. Um, how, how do you, uh, how do you, how do you make that change? How do you recondition yourself to do the healthy choice? You know, make the healthy choices on eating, and

Roy - Feeding Fatty (00:08:05):

This is my conscience talk

Maverick (00:08:12):

Not easily. It's not easy. Um, especially with the patterns are so ingrained. Um, you know, it's, uh, I would say one small thing at a time. I think one of the issues with mainstream, uh, nutrition, advice, influencers, fad diets, it's a drastic change overnight and often drastic changes unsustainable. And, and with my clients, especially, you know, I, I usually overload them with information, but then I say like one small habit of time each week to implement. And if you can do that, if you can just do one small thing every week after, you know, six, eight, 10, 12 weeks, you're going to be a whole new person. You're going to have all this whole new set of habits you've implemented while simultaneously trying to understand why you have the bad one, the bad patterns, the patterns that are taken are you understand where those come from, the gentle to yourself and try to come out of those, those behaviors.

Roy - Feeding Fatty (00:09:03):

Yeah. I think that's a big one, be gentle and kind to yourself, you know, we're just such, and we're terrible critics. And I am I actually taking notes because I mean, there was just so much that came out of that last sentence that you said, you know, and I'm going to relate this all back to me. I'm not, I don't even have to throw anybody else under the bus to say that, you know, it's like the bad habits that we, you know, that I've been in for years. And, and my worst one is that not eating nine, 10 o'clock at night, if I'm still up walking around, I'm ready for, you know, a bowl of popcorn or some kind of a snack, and then you go to bed and it's harder than, um, I don't know, there's that feeling of going to bed, not totally full that it just, uh, you know, and it's psychological. I realized I could go in there and go to sleep, but it's that conditioning to do it, uh, to break that habit, it's very, very difficult, very difficult. And, you know, we try and struggle and, um, you know, there, we do good for weeks at a time. And then all of a sudden fall off the wagon and, you know, back at it again. So it's something to constantly, constantly work on.

Roy - Feeding Fatty (00:10:17):

Yeah. The other thing I think that you brought up was, um, trying to do too much at once. I've read some research that that is what leads to the greatest failure rate of, um, of trying to change our healthy lifestyle. Our change to it. One is because again, I'll use me for instance, like, well, I'm getting up tomorrow and I'm not having any candy. I'm not having any salt. I'm not having any of this, um, eating, right. No more of, you know, fast food, it's all vegetables. And then I'm going to start going to the gym and I'm going to start, you know, running or walking 10 miles, you know, at one time and lifting weights and you do all this stuff. And then, you know, after about a week, it's like, you just, you just give out because it's so much at one time. So

Maverick (00:11:06):

Yeah, when you look at any addiction program and you look at alcoholism, you look at drug addict, food addiction, sex addiction, any kind of addiction, you you'd be hard pressed to find any type of addict has just decided, you know what I'm done and cut it out completely for the rest of their life. Right? There's always relapses. There's always, you know, shortcomings there's there's, that journey is never linear. It's like a weight loss journey is never to how you're going to start here and we'll end here if you do it right. But in between, it's going to look like a heart monitor about to down the same way with almost the retro journey. I mean, there's going to be, this word comes, that's where being gentle with yourself comes in, you know, um, it takes time to unwire behaviors that are wired into our mind.

Maverick (00:11:49):

It takes a lot of money, you know, we didn't become that way overnight. It's not going to dissipate overnight. And so having a program where, you know, like for instance in my clients have a trouble with soda, for instance, it'd be like, Hey, I gotta have a soda. I'm like, don't cut it out. Like completely, don't cut it out completely. What we're going to do is gradually decreased over time, try to taper it off, um, understand the feeling before the feeling. There's always a feeling that makes you want to have that. There's always something that's stress. Is it? What are you trying to escape? What are you trying to consume with the said behavior? There's, there's some kind of thing you're trying to escape from. So being mindful of that often leads to a change in behavior down the road, but just scolding someone or saying, don't do that. Isn't going to help because it's coming from something else that they they've learned to use that to medicate in some way, who is no different from any other addiction.

Roy - Feeding Fatty (00:12:40):

Yeah. And, you know, I find myself I'm on both sides of that equation. I think it's the, um, it's that soothing factor, you know, we're, we're conditioned, you know, at least in our culture, we were conditioned, uh, uh, you know, you had a bad day today. Well, let's go get something that, you know, let's go to the dairy queen, we'll get an ice cream, I'll fix you up. Or, Oh my gosh, that things went good for you. You got a promotion today. Well, let's go out and eat or, you know, then it's like, you know, you get stressed, sad, you know, you have that little food. But the other thing that I've kind of picked up on myself is, um, the fun factor whenever I've used this example before, but I was like, uh, uh, I was all excited. One day I thought Terry was, uh, I think, I think I thought she was going to Chick-fil-A and gonna bring me a Chick-fil-A sandwich home.

Roy - Feeding Fatty (00:13:30):

And then she said, Oh, no, there's some, uh, fish and some green beans in the refrigerator. And I was like, Oh yeah. And I just actually just felt that air go out of my body. Like, Oh my gosh, that, well, that's no fun. And so, you know, but, and, and we with COVID, you know, we don't go out and eat and don't go, you know, see the kids, you know, cause we, we would meet at a, you know, place and have some more d'oeuvres and maybe a drink or something. And just being out in public. I mean, we don't get to do that a lot anymore, but, um, you know, that is a big, big takeaway. Is that fun factor for some of us too?

Maverick (00:14:11):

Yeah. That's such a good point. Um, I, and that's another thing that I do is, you know, oftentimes there's, there's a lot of shame and guilt centered around that indulgence. I don't like to call them cheat meals and like you call them indulging planned indulgences. I call them kind of less negative with what I do. I find it's way more sustainable to have something you love a couple of times a week, because at the end of the day, you're an accumulation of your overall habits, your overall consumption. That is what you're an accumulation of, not what you did one night or two nights out of the week. I mean, for instance, if you eat this, you even, if you eat three meals a day, that's 21 meals a week, if you, two of those are planned indulgences, you're still on that 80 margin. So I think, you know, another strategy that I use is instead of like Sophie and I tried this and we did not do very well, we used to just eat like monks the entire week and then on the weekend splurge and what that would lead to is overeating on the weekends and then we'd feel bad about it.

Maverick (00:15:07):

So instead of that, we had, we started each sheet eating a indulgence on Wednesday and then Saturday. So now we have it twice in the week. We tend to eat less in that meal than we would have waited longer now. And we're getting something every two or three days to keep us happy and we don't feel any shame, no guilt. And so that's a strategy I use with my clients as well to say, Hey, it's okay to have that food that you love to eat in moderation from time to time and not feel shame and guilt about it.

Roy - Feeding Fatty (00:15:32):

Yeah. You know, uh, as we prepared for this, uh, last night I was doing some reading, then it, um, I guess the other thing that, you know, this intuitively, but it kind of came out very strong yesterday was, you know, people like myself that have a large amount that they want to lose is it can be overwhelming and daunting. And so, you know, what I'm trying to do very hard is shift that from, I don't, I don't, I'm not thinking I'm not focusing on the a hundred pound journey. I'm focusing on the one pound journey, you know, the one or two pounds this week. That's what I need to focus on. Because like you said, you string together a 52 pound loss weeks and you've got your hundred all of a sudden, but it can be daunting as somebody that's heavy to think, Oh, you know, I've got such a long journey that I'm going to have to take a break and have some M and M's, uh, to kind of get me started here.

Maverick (00:16:31):

Yeah. Focused on the next step. Not the ladder is something I always say is focused on the next step, the whole ladder. It can be daunting, but that next step and that it becomes a lot more.

Roy - Feeding Fatty (00:16:44):

And you also brought up about a, uh, you know, it's a culmination of our habits and patterns. And so it just, that's kind of off topic, but there's a book called the slight edge that I had read years ago. And it's, it is a great book to kind of explain that whole factor is that, you know, if you're going in, if, if you're going through life and you're eating and you go out and you eat that one, a McDonald's hamburger is not going to hurt you or, uh, be bad for you. It's that when you start stringing multiple times of those together, you know, day after, week after week, day after day. And he uses an example of a baseball player that, you know, if, if, uh, you know, some of these guys take bat and practice, they hit 10 balls and they're done. If you look at your great hitters, they hit hundreds of balls every day. And it's a constant, you know, just trying to build off of that every day and do better the next day.

Maverick (00:17:50):

Yeah. A hundred percent. Absolutely. And, um, with, with the habits thing, it's, it's, you know, you have to look at how habits are created. Um, this is straight from a book I like called atomic habits. I'm sure you've heard of that book.

Roy - Feeding Fatty (00:18:03):

Uh, could you, I'm sorry. You kinda cut out. Could you say the name of it one more time? Atomic habits. Okay.

Maverick (00:18:10):

Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Super popular book, but he's taught, he talks in that book, how habits are created and it uses the example of when you walk into a dark room, you have the cue, the craving, the response and the reward. So the cue is you walk into a dark room, it's dark. The craving is, I want light. The response is you flip the light switch. The reward is light comes on and we create habits like that all day, every day. And so when you're trying to instill new habits in your life, having that in mind, if you want to install, instill a good, a good habit, make the cue obvious, make the craving, um, you know, something that you, you really want it something that you desire make the response easily obtainable in the risk and the reward rewarding. So if you can do that with healthy habits, that's, that's a good way to program your habits every day.

Roy - Feeding Fatty (00:18:53):

Yeah, that's great. The other thing, I, I think I'm lucky in some respects that I enjoy, you know, my job, I enjoy what I do for living. And so I, uh, tend to spend a lot of time sitting at the computer. The, um, you know, the, all the new research is saying that sitting is the new smoking and that, you know, that's definitely, what's gonna kill us all, especially, uh, with COVID and, uh, you know, being confined and some people working from home and, you know, like myself, my commute's about 10 steps. And I sit in a chair and I, you know, I can, I got engaged the other day in a, in a, an analytical project on the computer. And I mean, it was like 10 30. And, you know, Terry was in here rattling my cage, like, okay, you've got to stop. And, you know, we're done for the night, but you know, what are some tips or that, you know, for people like myself that can, um, you know, kind of break that concentration just to get up and walk away, because it sounds easy, you know, like set an egg timer and get up and go for a walk, but I'm just telling you, it, it, even though I want to, it is not that easy sometimes just to break away and do those little things that need to be done, but any advice or any helpful hints you can offer there.

Maverick (00:20:10):

Yeah. I mean, sedentary lifestyle is, is one of the number one factors that lead to most of the chronic health diseases in this country. And that's, that's something that a lot of the studies surrounding food neglect to mention, there's all, there's, it's a huge factor with any kind of, you know, diabetes, any kind of, you know, heart disease, anything like that. When you have fatalities, they always relate it back to the nutrition. And sometimes don't mention the other big piece, which is the sedentary lifestyle, right? Um, and so what I found is, uh, you have to break down like how we burn calories every day. It's simply, I mean, non-exercise activity is a huge bulk of that. So 70% is burned at rest. So your metabolic rate, just breathing functioning 70%, um, and you burn more at rest. The more lean body mass you have, 15% is not our size activity.

Maverick (00:20:53):

So walking typing, and that that category is going to be higher or low. All these categories be higher and lower based upon your lifestyle, 10% from digesting foods. So the Bader nutrition is the better. That's going to be in 5% from exercise. So people make the mistake of thinking that since they put all their effort into that 5%, that 30 minutes to an hour exercise other day, and then they go the other 23 hours and they're sedentary. They think that they're going to get in shape, but again, you're an accumulation of your overall habits. So if you only work out an hour of the day and you sit around and another 23 hours of the day, you're not going to reflect someone who exercises for an hour. You're gonna reflect someone who's sedentary for 23 hours a day. So giving people that, that there's perspective on that, what I do with my clients is, um, 10 minute walks.

Maverick (00:21:33):

So, and I didn't, I didn't make that up. I got it from a mentor of mine. I understand everything, but, um, 10 minute walks are very effective, especially post-meal. And when you couple them with a meal, you know, you have to get up and get some food eventually. So that sometimes just having them walk by itself, isn't enough. Like you're saying to just remember or set a timer, but if you have, if you go up and eat and you're like, okay, before I sit down, I'm going to go on a 10 minute walk at 10 minute walks, very effective because instead of a one 30 minute walk, if you space that out amongst the day, you're accomplishing many different things. Three, 10 minute walks a day, you're getting 30 minutes of sun exposure, probably. So you're getting your vitamin D you're getting, which is a very important for metabolism, hormones, et cetera.

Maverick (00:22:11):

It's helping you digest your food and uptake those nutrients instantly. If you do it, post-meal, it's been shown to be very beneficial for blood sugar management for it, for some people more effective than prescription Statens for managing blood sugar. Like it's that effective insulin resistance, all kinds of things, blood pressure reduction. So lots of benefits from 10 minute walks. So I have my clients do that. If they can't get out of it super cold, they, they, a lot of them have like an elliptical or they just walk around their house, getting that movement in at least three or four times a day, especially people who their primary goal is, weight loss is, is very effective.

Roy - Feeding Fatty (00:22:43):

Yeah. And I, you know, I do take some, uh, medication for, uh, diabetes as well. And that's what I can tell you about my glucose control is if I will walk after a meal, I can manage it much, much better than, you know, just eating and coming back and setting. And again, there's just so much to get into with this start. I'm trying to take some notes as we, as I listened to you. But so there is some, um, well, depending on who you talk to, there is some debate because, um, I'm hearing more about these 10 minutes shorter walks, but, um, how does that compare? Because I had one guy and this has been a few years ago that used to train that he was like, you know, 40 minutes, if it's less than that, you know, basically not doing yourself any good. And, uh, he was, that was his thing, you know, kind of everybody has their thing, but I feel that there's been a lot more research come out in the last few years that if we do four, 10 minute walks a day, we are probably better off than trying to do that one 40 minutes.

Roy - Feeding Fatty (00:23:49):

And I guess maybe it depends on the goals that you're trying to accomplish.

Maverick (00:23:59):

Oh yeah. Sorry. It froze for just saying. Yeah, no. Um, well, I think it's important to distinguish between exercise activity and non-exercise activity, right? Like if you're going to do intentional cardio, but a third party, not that there's less benefit before the 30 minute Mark, but they're generally around 30 minutes is what you want for some kind of low intensity, steady state cardio session. Okay. You're an interval training. It's a different story. You can go a little bit shorter than that, but an exercise that tipping exercise. So with exercise activity, being such a category and a category, when it comes to the day, the way that we burn fat and calories daily, that's a big area of concentration. If you can spread that out throughout the day, you have other factors involved there, you have the blood sugar management there. So like for example, um, your blood glucose is very pertinent to your fat loss. If you have, you know, generally lower blood glucose, you're going to have better fat loss. So, uh, I mean the majority of the day, so by doing one larger walk, you're getting it, you're getting the benefit right then, and then you're not getting anything the rest of the day. Whereas if you have three or four, 10 minutes throughout the day, you're having longer, better optimal management of your blood glucose. Yeah.

Roy - Feeding Fatty (00:25:24):

Well, we kind of broke up there a little bit. I think the point you were making though, is that that 10 minutes, those 10 minute walks will help us with a lot more things. And that was another thing to distinguish is that, you know, even though, uh, exercise leading up to that weight loss factor, it's minimal, you know, diet is 80%, the exercise, 20%, that weight loss, there's just a lot more, uh, physical benefits to our body with, you know, getting up and moving. And so we, we, we still need to do because a lot of people think, well, I don't need to exercise, but especially with me, you know, like blood sugar, uh, high blood pressure, things like that. It's still important to make that a, um, a big component of our day, just for the other benefits, besides the weight loss.

Terry - Feeding Fatty (00:26:15):

Yeah. And helps with mindset and all of that for everything else across the board. Right?

Maverick (00:26:21):

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. I mean, for me, I just personally, anecdotally, if I don't, I w I just sit and work all day, my creative energy starts to go down. If I, if Sophie and I, we get up and we go out on a walk and we, we have some, some conversation and I'll come back and I'm so much more productive than if I would've just tried to grit through it all day long. And she, uh,

Roy - Feeding Fatty (00:26:44):

I just never thought about it. Maybe, maybe Terry sabotage in my exercise, because when we, uh, we live in an awesome rule type environment where, you know, we can get out, walk the dogs and it really clears my head. And so, you know, to your point, if I can go for a 10, 15 minute walk and I come back and it's like, man, I've got all these ideas. I'm like, okay, sit down and get your pencil and paper. Cause I've got all this stuff. And she's like, Oh my,

Terry - Feeding Fatty (00:27:09):

Well, he didn't even, he didn't even let me sit down. I mean, we're walking five minutes and he's like shooting off all this stuff. I'm like, I can't take notes right now. I got to figure out where I'm walking.

Roy - Feeding Fatty (00:27:21):

But yeah, I think it's just, it's amazing what a, you know, a 10 or 15 minutes just to get out, walk, uh, clears your head. And it gives, gives me that much more creativeness. And I feel, you know, like the last few days it's been a little cooler and I've been inside, but I can kind of feel it's not a brain fault, but it's just like, uh, I don't know how to say it like a heavy brain. It's just like, it's not as free and flowing as when you're, you know, when you do get that exercise.

Maverick (00:27:51):

Absolutely. Absolutely. Uh, one thing I can suggest Roy is, uh, there's an app called Otter and it, uh, it's just, um, you talk, it writes, so maybe having that along while you're on your wall, both that's, what's the whole thing I do. We put in it and it writes as we talk. So we don't have to have a pen and pad because you never know inspiration is going to come. You want to be ready when it does.

Roy - Feeding Fatty (00:28:14):

Yeah. Terry May take you off for Christmas list after you give me that too a lot. Yeah.

Terry - Feeding Fatty (00:28:18):

Thanks a lot.

Roy - Feeding Fatty (00:28:22):

Uh, well, let's talk a little bit about your process. I know, uh, you know, COVID has changed a lot of things, but I think your model is pretty much, uh, on a hundred percent online anyway, is that correct?

Maverick (00:28:40):

Yes, we are a hundred percent remote. Okay. Yeah. And we, uh,

Roy - Feeding Fatty (00:28:44):

Talk to us about, you know, you were just saying all the different components that go, you know, this isn't, you know, basically you coming on and, uh, shouting to give me 10 pushups and things like that. You know, there was a lot more, um, input from you besides just the, you know, watching somebody do some pushups or setups.

Maverick (00:29:06):

Yeah. I think most people's perceptions, uh, depending on their generation, when I tell them that I'm an online trainer, they think that I'm in their living room. Like I'm like C3, I'm gonna do burpees or something. And that's like the furthest thing from what we actually do. Um, we are very nutrition focused. So you get a personalized nutrition plan based on what you're trying to achieve. We, you know, we I've been doing, I've been a nutritionist for years, so that's very fully fledged years went into this nutrition plan, focus on gut health hormones, um, just basically a blueprint for success with your nutrition. So people never have to be in this area of, you know, what the hell do I do? I've Googled one thing and I've gotten 200 different answers. So-and-so's doing this. And I don't think that would work. They have that blueprint forever. So that's number one. Number two is yes, we do training plans as well. Uh, we have our own training platform where we can give you, you know, there's video demonstrations. If you, if you're especially right now and you're trapped at home and you hit your gyms close, whatever's going on at home workouts. That's really big right now. So we have, you know, with ex X resistance bands free, what do we have available?

Maverick (00:30:15):

Um, my wife's Sophie, she gets act as a live treatment or a Facebook group every week where she does an at-home workout. And that, that helps a lot for people who need, you know, cause it's hard to keep it fun at home, working out, finding new things you can do to challenge yourself. So, um, we make sure that we, we meet them there with that. The biggest part of what we do though, is the accountability. So we, um, we have a Facebook group, hundreds of women, you know, have similar loans are crushing it because they have surrounded themselves with a group of wounds or a pot going on in their lives. What's going on with going on. And me ever, they have this group to go to and it's always 100% going to be positive. It's going to be, um, a positive influence on their life.

Maverick (00:30:57):

It's going to be lifting and it's going to keep them focused on their goals. So we have that community where we do free challenges every week, give away free prizes for those challenges. So I do five live streams a week in that group right now where we're adding more every, every month it seems like, wow, we do group calls and we all get on zoom just like this, but there's 30 of us and we celebrate wins. I answered questions, craft big. Uh in-depth um, and they have access to us around the clock. So any questions that get asked, they get answered. We're there for any that they need. We do weekly check-ins we do one-on-one responses to those check-ins, but it's just about as involved as you can get with an online coaching program. And that's why it's seen the success that it has.

Terry - Feeding Fatty (00:31:41):

So what does your, um, client look like? I mean, I know transforming women, but is there at a S at a certain fitness level? Um, what, what's your client?

Maverick (00:31:56):

I ideal avatar is women 30 plus, um, who, you know, primarily weight loss, but we work with just body composition type clients as well. Um, all levels of their journey and fitness that we w our job as a coach is to meet you where you're at and take you the next step. So, for instance, I had a lady in my program, uh, this past year named Tammy who at the start of the program, she was, she couldn't even, you know, get off the floor, get down on the floor, um, do any exercises. So we started with walking, we started with just, you know, addressing the nutrition and addressing the mindset stuff she had going on, uh, centered around food and just start with walking. And over the past year, she lost, she dropped 60 pounds and she's now jogging in the gym for the first time in her life. I actually got on a, um, a FaceTime call with her and showed her how to use the different machines. And she's crushing it. She's doing things she hasn't done in 30 years. And so that's someone who couldn't even, we didn't even know how to exercise or wasn't even able to who is now doing all those things. So that's, that's what we can do with someone, um, even not being there in person. Yeah.

Roy - Feeding Fatty (00:33:00):

Wow. Yeah. It's that support is such an important component in this and not only for the exercise part, but for the eating part. I mean, because as we go through this, you know, we have questions, uh, sometimes it's like, Oh, let's just go ahead and slide one. Buy-in if you have somebody that, you know, you can reach out to, or if you know, you're going to have to face somebody at the end of this week and say, w w why did we eat? You know, you tend to change your mindset a lot more, but,

Maverick (00:33:34):

But they, they don't. The thing is though, this is what's lacking in this industry, is they can't be afraid to come to you at an off week, or if they, if they made a mistake, right. I think a big, Oh, no, I messed up either. I'm not going to track this because we can see all their foods. So it's like either I'm going to track this and I'm going to lie, or I'm just not going to tell them. And, you know, because I've been doing this long enough to know what progress should be looking like, based on what I see on their nutrition. So the key with being a coach in my opinion, is they're comfortable enough to come to me and say, Hey, this day I had, you know, 12 ounces of wine. That's cool. You know, that's totally fine because the rest of the week he did really well going forward.

Maverick (00:34:19):

Here's what we're going to do. Um, you know, w what school, what else is going on? Are you stressed? Oh, you're just closed on your house. So you guys are really stressed and packing your house up. Got it. That makes sense. Don't worry about it. Let's go forward. Let's keep establishing good habits. We're good to go. Having that kind of mentality. Um, I made a mistake or I made a, you know, I ate off plan or whatever, but it's going to be okay. Longterm and not punishing them for it. And being a drill Sergeant with me, women, because I'm a 250 pound army veteran. So for them to be able to trust me with their fitness, you know, I have to have empathy and I have to be understanding. And so that, that's another reason why I love working with women, because I've been able to cross that threshold and, and understand stuff they're going through to the best of my ability and not having that firsthand experience. That's where, so it becomes,

Roy - Feeding Fatty (00:35:05):

Yeah. And that's a good point, you know, we're hard enough on ourselves and, um, you know, being able to work with somebody you trust that you can come to, because that gives you, uh, the opportunity to build me up and say, you know, what ate a few tacos the other day is it's not the end of the world. And, you know, the, because the, the sad thing is we, we do bad and then we give up and then the trajectory just goes downhill from there. And it's like, even if we could just make a little bit of a comeback from a bad day or two, we're still going to be way ahead of the game moving forward. So is so important to have that reassurance.

Terry - Feeding Fatty (00:35:44):

Yeah. And that, that empathy factor is a huge deal, especially when you're, especially when you're dealing with women, because they, you know, they, they just, they don't need the harsh, the harsh words. They just don't need the guilt and the shame, you know, we pile enough of that stuff on, as it is. We need somebody who's going to be able to understand,

Maverick (00:36:07):

Right. Just listen, not trying to fix. And at the end of the month, if they've, you know, instilled all these new habits, and they're doing all these new things at the end of a month, when they look back and they're like, wow, like I've actually come a really long way. Despite me, me sabotaging, or trying to mentally sabotage myself every step of the way I've actually come a really long way. So then I have that progress to look back on all the stuff, doing a great job. And that, that keeps, that builds momentum with them instead of, you know, frayed. Tell me I can't rule. Never.

Roy - Feeding Fatty (00:36:44):

Yeah. I do have one question about, uh, something that also came up yesterday. Are you familiar with the, the T R X bands, those yellow bands are those pretty decent for, I mean, I know, I see a lot of, uh, you know, you can do so much with them and at one time the gym I go to, they had one in there and they've since removed them. But, um, you know, I just wonder if the, the time spent on those, doing some things is, is worth the effort to get one.

Maverick (00:37:16):

I think that they are a great addition if, um, if you don't have access to freeways, because in my opinion, freeways are always going to be the best. However, if your gyms close, they're a fantastic piece to have to have for maintenance or re depending on where you're at in your journey. Okay. Absolutely TRX bands have their place. And even if you do have access to freeways, there ha they have their place in a program for extra stimulus. I mean, you have to use a lot of stabilizers with, with TRX. I think they're a fantastic innovation and a great addition, but I wouldn't, if I had access to freeways, I wouldn't base my entire.

Roy - Feeding Fatty (00:37:55):

Okay. Yeah. And, uh, you brought up a good point about, um, well about the free weights. And if you don't mind explain the difference between a, you know, like, uh, in the old days, a universal machine and, uh, kind of set the stage for those that may not understand the, the weights are on guides. And so you, you push the weight up and down for sure. But with, with free weights, there are a lot of stabilizer muscles that you have to use and get benefit of that as well. If you wouldn't kind of expound on that just a little bit,

Maverick (00:38:30):

There's just less variability. There's less, there's less margin of error with free weights. Mean the resistance is always gravity and you can't cheat gravity, you can't do anything, but the exercise. And, and I know it can be intimidating for a lot of people, especially in the, in the freeway section of a gym to go in there and not to give it a try. Um, but it isn't the most effective form of changing your body. At the end of the day. It will always be the most effective form with machines. You have to worry about who they're built for. You have to worry about a lot of other advanced principles being a lot like me, for instance, I have to finagle myself into every single machine cause I'm so large to get the proper angle for the exercise to even be effective. I mean, it's, you know, you're ill where I want to in the target muscle. So I'm imagining someone who's brand new to exercise, trying to make that connection while they're in a machine. Um, it's, it's, it's hard without someone guiding you, machines just are not going to be as effective because you're rolling the dice with, if you're even doing the exercise, correct. Or feeling it in the right spot to begin with a lot more.

Roy - Feeding Fatty (00:39:37):

Sorry about that. We hadn't, Oh my gosh. Oh my goodness. I scared me. I thought we were not, we were under attack for a minute. Okay. Come on. Gosh. Okay. Sorry about that. Oh my gosh. That was loud. Uh, uh, broke my train of thought. So, yeah. So anyway, that's the difference in the free weights and the, uh, you know, the machine types? The other thing is the, um, I think on the nutritional side, the importance of journaling, not only so we know it's so we can look back because I think, uh, you know, like for us, one thing that we learned, it, it wasn't as much as for the calorie count, although that's nice and helpful it's for all the other things that we don't know we're in food. And so, uh, you know, kind of an exercise for us when we started cooking more, quit doing more fast food or, uh, easy take out stuff.

Roy - Feeding Fatty (00:40:38):

It's, uh, you know, even the pre-packaged food in the grocery store, when you put that into some kind of a nutritional app, you are just blown away at all the stuff. And, you know, mainly we'll say probably salt was the big one that always got our attention, but, you know, there's just a lot of other stuff that's in there that is not really probably what we want to be putting in our body. So anyway, that's kind of a two-fold thing is the pre-packaged versus the fresh, but also, you know, just that importance for a journaling. So not only do we know what we're eating, we can be true to ourself. And then if we don't lose weight this week, or if we don't lose enough, we can kind of look back and say, well, here's exactly why,

Maverick (00:41:22):

Oh my gosh, it's, it's so important. It's so important because gosh, for so many reasons, number one, becoming aware calorically of what you're intaking on a daily basis. I mean, that's where

Maverick (00:41:34):

Fad diets missed the Mark big time, um, with, with messing people up is because yes, you'll lose a little bit of weight by cutting out entire food groups. But if you don't understand what a plate of food is supposed to look like for your personal goals, I mean, that's a tool you can carry with you for the rest of your life. So with, with my clients, I always tell them the mindset is you're, you're not going to track calories for the rest of your life, but doing so for a certain amount of time gives you that invaluable tool of knowing what a serving for you should look like. And it's different for everyone. And especially for couples, I find that with my couples, you know, there's a huge disparity. They'll realize Holy crap, I was eating as much as he was just because we're around each other all the time.

Maverick (00:42:15):

And that's why I was putting on weight because that's a full grown man and I'm a woman and this is, that's not okay for me individually, but they should be eating. The other thing is, you know, you learn what, like you said, what nutrients are in each foods. You know, if you need this many carbohydrates, what's a good food for carbohydrates. What's a good food for protein. What's a good food for protein that isn't loaded in fat or good source of carbohydrates. That's not loaded in sugar. I mean your fiber, you know, it's just, it gives you so many tools to take with you for the rest of your life. And it, it can help you understand what your weekly intake is, let alone your daily. So like, you know, with weight loss, especially if your, if your maintenance amount of calories is 2000 and you eat 1800 every day, Monday through Friday, right?

Maverick (00:43:03):

So that's, uh, what, uh, since 200 times five, so it's a thousand calorie deficit for the week, but then on Saturday and Sunday, you eat, you know, uh, Oh, so far over your maintenance, you eaten the surplus that it puts you at a surplus for the week. You're going to have a hard time losing weight. So realizing that is what helps a lot of people. They're like, Oh, this is why I'm not losing weight because although I was eating well, Monday through Friday, I was eating so much on Saturday and Sunday. It was completely sabotage me. It comes down to your weekly caloric intake as well. And that's why, you know, the, the weekend can, can kill people. Cause they just, they, they binge and they don't realize how far over their maintenance calories they go. So again, it's, uh, there's some push pull with this debate because a lot of people think that counting calories can create some unhealthy eating habits, but I think that's when people like about, you know, that feedback. Um, and then you get into weight loss and how the scale and everything and how the, you know, your, your body fluctuates week to week and everything else. But just keeping that food diary is, is so important to, to also realize if you eat something inflammatory, you can go back and see what it was. You know, it's like, okay, I ate this. I felt like crap after, or I feel like crap today. What did I eat yesterday? And you can look back and be like, okay, there's something going on with those egg whites, right?

Roy - Feeding Fatty (00:44:19):

Yeah. And there, I just read an article about that calorie counting. And I think there's a, you know, it's a good distinction to make that, just tracking what we eat and put in our body is so much different than making a decision based on that. Like, Oh, well, I'm cutting these calories down to some absurd level or things like that. And so, um, it also, you know, like myself, one thing I knew years ago, I started, you know, when I was eating bad, I took a lot of supplements because I knew I wasn't getting the nutrients. And then that's the other great benefit of tracking is we are able and, uh, uh, chronometer I think is the one that we use. It has a very good, uh, micro, new nutrient tracking in it. And so what it's done is it allows us to, uh, adjust our meals to try to make sure we're getting all these vitamins and nutrients instead of having to take a supplement. And it's, it's been an invaluable tool for us. We've cut out a lot,

Maverick (00:45:20):

Always going to absorb it. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. And one thing on that note is my clients who have been on blood pressure meds, I've gotten, uh, I want to say like 35 people off of blood pressure medication. Now over the past two years. And the only, the only thing I do is I say, Hey, we're going to track your potassium for the next couple of months. And I want you to get 4,700 milligrams of potassium every single day from food. And over the course of two months, their blood pressure goes range, know, doing that. And 10 minute waltz and some weight loss, but that mineral balance. So they have to track calories to know how much potassium they're getting, obviously. So that just knowing that balancing or minerals could potassium so, so important for blood pressure. Um, and then just mineral balance overall. And they, they feel so much better. And obviously it's coupled with some weight loss and being more active, but that potassium piece, they have to track galleries to, to know that right,

Terry - Feeding Fatty (00:46:14):

Like that you need some potassium, honey.

Roy - Feeding Fatty (00:46:19):

All right. Well, Terry, have you got anything else

Terry - Feeding Fatty (00:46:22):

Now? This, this has been, I really liked that you guys split it up, you know, instead of doing, you know, well having your, um, nutrition program Monday through eating correctly, Monday through Friday and then sell, like, I, I think of it as celebrating Saturday and Sunday, you know, like that y'all split it up to Wednesday and Saturday. Cause you know, we need two days. We have to have two days of celebration sort of, I think, I don't know.

Roy - Feeding Fatty (00:46:50):

Oh, I'll tell you what, one other, one other point I wanted to make that you brought up about the, um, you know, calories in and out. I challenge everybody to get a pen and paper. I mean, I actually don't do a calculator, get a pen and paper out and uh, w Maverick, I'm gonna let you just tell me if, uh, if I've got this right. Okay. But, uh, 3,500 calories is what equals a pound. Correct?

Maverick (00:47:18):

What equals a pound? Yeah.

Roy - Feeding Fatty (00:47:20):

Then if you, uh, yeah, 3,500 calories if you eat well, I guess if you let's say 2000 is Mark. If you eat 3,500 calories over that, that would, you would gain a pound per week and, or

Maverick (00:47:37):

Yeah, 100 pounds over were maintenance. I'm sorry. Now the 1500 calories over your maintenance is what you're saying.

Roy - Feeding Fatty (00:47:44):

Uh, no, just basically that, if you want to lose weight, let's say you want to lose a pound over a week. You would have to adjust your calorie intake or out, you know, exercise or however, by 3,500 calories to achieve that pound.

Maverick (00:48:05):

Um, it's hard, you know, that's hard to say because there's so many other variables it's like I have to have like, so when my clients, you know, I'll have an initial questionnaire where they tell me, you know, what's your scale of one to five, what's your activity level? You know, what weight are you now? Or are you currently tracking calories with, I guess some information with which to generate a, uh, caloric goal for them to hit the first two or three weeks and that move for the first two or three or as much a baseline response to that. And everyone's energy balance is different on different days. So that's why, you know, to have that, if you're doing this on your own, especially you stick to something yeah. Calorie wise for at least three weeks to a month to account for the variability is in your activity.

Maverick (00:48:51):

So stress, um, with women, you know, hormones every month with, you know, water retention with any kind of other activity that's going up or down in your life. And you're gonna, you're gonna burn more calories on different days. So that's why it's imperative to stick to one number two or three weeks to see what your weight does. Yeah. And then once you see, let's just say that you, it, it stays exactly the same. Then you would bring your calories down 150 to 200 calories and do the same thing. And repeat that process is not sexy and it's not what people want to hear, but that's the best way to lose weight and keep it off and not have to do something extreme with your nutrition. So if you don't want to completely cut carbohydrates and things you love out of your life, this is the way to do it. And you're going to learn how to do it for the rest of your life and not have to do something that ultimately probably won't be sustainable and puts you in a, in a mode of disparity and frustration and failure again, because it didn't stick. Yeah.

Roy - Feeding Fatty (00:49:48):

Yeah. And I guess what the point I was going to make, and maybe after, um, you find that equilibrium for yourself, you see kind of what those calorie, you know, the differences for you to lose that pound. But if you actually put it on paper and do the math, I think we find that have what I have found for me anyway is having that little extra snack, the, you know, the little extra M and M things. It adds a lot. I mean, it just, one little package of candy will take away so much from your week or, you know, add more that you have to try to try to reduce. But the converse of that is that if you get on the stone, just a treadmill and walk at, uh, you know, a fairly good pace, you will see that the, uh, the calories reduced by that are so small in comparison to eating that package of M and M's.

Roy - Feeding Fatty (00:50:44):

And that's one thing that has really woken me up is I think it takes me five minutes to eat a candy bar m&ms chips or whatever, and I can go to the gym and, you know, basically it takes you four hours of a decent walk just to burn off that one little indulgence that we had. And, and I'm not, you know, uh, I'm not trying to stress that we've got to cut everything out, but I think I just wanted to look at things from the mathematical side of how we sabotage ourselves and then what you would physically have to do to overcome it. I think it makes me personally make a lot better nutritional decisions, you know, trying to do the math because it's like, it's incredible. I mean, it really is.

Maverick (00:51:33):

Yeah. And Agworld that, I like any of this, this chat are, you burned at breasts with non introspective food. As you cumulatively cumulatively, do those things better. As you have a better body composition, as you have more lean body mass compared to body fat, you know, all those categories are going to get higher. So once that happens and your metabolic rate comes up, you can get away with eating, you know, your, your things you love to eat, uh, in, in, in larger amounts or more frequently than you could before. When, you know, we were, we were in poor health all through, you had a higher body, fat percentage and everything else, you were more sedentary as those other categories get higher. You could actually indulge more often and not see the effects as much as you used to. And then I found it well,

Roy - Feeding Fatty (00:52:19):

Well, one more thing I know we've run way over, which is, you know, it's awesome. I mean, we've had a good conversation, but it's like every time, every time you say something, it just sparks. Another idea is like, uh, the, uh, you know, as we, uh, put on muscle or as we reduce the fat, the there's the difference that, um, and I think this goes back to the walking versus doing, even again, this is all a balanced approach. I'm not saying do one, don't do the other. It's more of, uh, where we spend our time. We need to do the cardio and get that. But the weightlifting part, as we build muscles, those muscles will continue to burn fat, I guess, you know, for the, for a longer period of time, where if I'm not wrong, the cardio, we pretty much get you get what you get right up until you quit. And then, uh, but building that lean muscle mass, um, will help continue to burn calories through the rest of the day.

Maverick (00:53:21):

Yeah. Your body responds to the stimulus, you provide it and does it build muscles. So, um, in order to create that, that lean feminine muscle that, that women want, it comes down to, you have to do some sort of resistance training to stimulate the muscle growth. Um, and that's always a, uh, a line that I have to toe with with women, especially. Cause if you say muscle, if you say, uh, you know, you're, you're, you're building your body. They automatically just picture Arnold Schwarzenegger in their head. Like, I don't want that. I don't want, I don't want big lots. I don't want shoulders. Right. And so getting past that look, every fitness model, you see every in grants, a lot of more probably Photoshop, but every ideal body that you see on TV or whatever, they lift weights, all of them, every last one, there's, there's no way you can build a lean feminine muscle type of body without lifting weights without doing that. So yes, the muscle you burn more at rest because your, your base model metabolic rate has to be higher to accommodate that. I mean, you have to eat more to accommodate that, that muscle growth. And that's, uh, that's great news for most people. It's like, Hey, you get to eat more.

Maverick (00:54:24):

And muscle is less. Muscle is more dense than fat. So, you know, you can, the more you gain more muscle, you gain the theater you're actually going to get, because there's muscle takes up less space, same weight, body fat,

Roy - Feeding Fatty (00:54:35):

One more thing. And I promise we're done. Uh, I know, uh, but the, uh, you know, somebody like myself who likes to eat at night, uh, I think somebody had told me a long time ago that, um, fixing a protein shake or ma even if you have to have that little snack to make sure that it's more protein based than, uh, well, you know, intuitively better than a bowl of ice cream or a bag of chips, for sure. But if you, if you eat that protein, you know, when you get a little bit hungry at, in the late in the evening like that, then your body will burn that through the night. Is, is there some truth to that?

Maverick (00:55:16):

Yeah. Like there's the myth there's, uh, the whole thing notion that eating right before bed will make you more prone to gaining body fat is a complete myth. I mean, again, it always comes down to your overall energy balance. I mean, it doesn't matter if this is, I would never recommend someone to do this, but if your maintenance amount of calories to maintain your weight is 2000 and you don't eat all day and then you eat 2000 calories right before your head hits the pillow. You're not going to gain weight because you're still in that, that, that maintenance at the end of the day in 24 hours, you didn't consume a caloric surplus. So although that's not ideal for metabolism, it's, it's, you know, it's, it still comes down to that no matter what. So, um, what matters is your overall intake for the day?

Maverick (00:55:55):

So eating closer to bed doesn't affect that. But as far as like what I recommend for, in my program for people who have that type of craving, you know, I look at what they're eating throughout the rest of the day, if they're eating, to getting their fruit dose and from tropical fruits. So oftentimes cravings are a result of a mineral imbalance or mineral deficiency. So we address that first, but there's different things you can do. There's different creative little things. I have a, there's a protein self when I recommend all my clients. It's just collagen hydraulic say, it's, it's just college and protein from bovine college and types one and three, really, really good for your digestion and gut health, really good for your skin, hair bones. So it's a great product for women, especially, um, but what they have a Berry flavor. And so I, you can re mix that with yogurt, you can make little overnight oats with that, make little snacks.

Maverick (00:56:38):

Um, protein shake is fine as well, but there's all kinds of critical things you can do. There's also an amino acid, uh, EA it's called EAs essential amino acids that I recommend for people. And what you can do is a little, little trick. I learned a long time ago, you blend it up with, uh, with ice and just make like a slushie and eat it with a spoon. You're tricking your body into thinking you're having like a, like a tasty treat. It actually tastes really good. And it's really good for you. So that's like little things I can have here there.

Roy - Feeding Fatty (00:57:05):

All right. Awesome. Well, I promise I'm cutting it off no more. What we'll have to do though, is promised to come back and be a guest again so we can, uh, you know, there's just so much to cover. And then of course we can get, so in-depth on so many subjects that we could talk for hours, but, uh, we do appreciate you coming on. So is there a tool that you use in your, um, you know, and it could be a workout tool or a nutritional tool, but is there something that you do in your daily life that you just can't do without or something that really adds a lot of value

Maverick (00:57:39):

For my life? Um, yeah, I use, uh, I like my fitness balance as the nutrition tracker of choice. I know there's different ones out there. I just find that's the easiest one piece that you can scan barcodes. It saved you say recipes instead of the most quick later foods. So as far as just being aware of my work and think, I think that's, that's probably the one I would recommend at most. It's the one I use my clients. Um, yeah, that's I think bang for your buck, that's going to be quite the best thing.

Roy - Feeding Fatty (00:58:03):

The good thing about my fitness pal too, is, uh, they put out a lot of good articles on nutrition and exercise and just a, um, a lot of good material as well.

Maverick (00:58:16):

Yeah. I've got an article coming out with them in a couple of days. I think about protein consumption. They got published in there for that, so, yeah.

Roy - Feeding Fatty (00:58:24):

Okay. Well, great. Well, uh, tell everybody again, just, uh, who is your client, what you can do for them, and then of course, how they can reach out and get ahold of you.

Maverick (00:58:36):

Yeah, so women 30 plus who, you know, moms busy women who, you know, have your body has changed. And since high school I'm having trouble dropping stubborn body fat, stubborn weight. And just looking for an answer when they're tired of Googling, one thing, getting through a hundred different answers, entirely the fad diets that don't want to restrict themselves. We want to create a time and there'll be stress in their life. And finally have that one stop answer for nutrition and wellness and mindset, the whole shebang. Um, that's, that's what we're looking to, help them get their life back where and how it went back and be the best they can to their family can be the best that it can be. Because when the matriarch is at their best, the rest of the family runs like nobody's happy, but we're a Maverick. Will it simply Maverick will it on Instagram, same thing on Facebook. And we are website that our construction, but it's coming soon, but yeah, just out is it's Maverick Linder score will it on Instagram and a good way to find it.

Roy - Feeding Fatty (00:59:33):

Okay, great. Yeah, I'll reach out and, uh, let Maverick help y'all out. I, I know he could do great things with you. So again, thank you for your time. We appreciate it. Uh, this is going to be it for another episode of feeding fatty. Thanks for joining us. Uh, again, you can find us at www dot feeding, fatty.com. You can find us on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and also a, when we publish this episode, the video will go up on YouTube. So we look forward to, uh, look forward to hearing from you. If you've got a good story, reach out to us. Uh, also if you're a professional, you know, in the nutritional exercise, anything to do, uh, you know, mindset, anything to do with getting us healthy, reach out. We'd love to hear from you as well. So until next time, take care of each other and take care of yourself. I'm Roy I'm Terry. Thank you, Maverick. We appreciate it. Thank you all. Thanks for having me.

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