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Design Better

211 episodes - English - Latest episode: 6 days ago - ★★★★★ - 286 ratings

Design Better co-hosts Eli Woolery and Aarron Walter explore the intersection of design, technology, and the creative process through conversations with inspiring guests across many creative fields. Whether you’re design curious or a design pro, Design Better is guaranteed to inspire and inform. Episodes are released semi-weekly. Vanity Fair calls Design Better, “sharp, to the point, and full of incredibly valuable information for anyone looking to better understand how to build a more innovative world.”

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Lori Kaplan: Atlassian's playbook for team collaboration

August 01, 2019 20:57 - 37 minutes

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/lori-kaplan Lori Kaplan is a veteran design leader, whose pioneering work includes authorship of the original Macintosh Human Interface Guidelines in the 1980s. In this episode we speak with Lori about how the Atlassian playbook helps both internal and external teams address design challenges, the deep roots of cross-functional collaboration at the company, as well as Lori’s perspective on how attitudes towards design have shifted in recent years ...

Indeed’s Quinton Larson on being adaptable and working thoughtfully

July 22, 2019 14:24 - 41 minutes - 95.4 MB

Quinton Larson is a design leader who has consistently brought thoughtful leadership into the companies where he works. In this episode we speak with Quinton about his prior work at IDEO and eBay, his involvement with Indeed’s Job Seeker Journey team, how he makes sure the right people are involved in project kickoffs, and how design systems help create a more connected workflow between designers and developers. Takeaways: Getting the right people involved in project kickoffs Being adap...

Quinton Larson: How Indeed kicks off projects the right way

July 22, 2019 14:24 - 42 minutes

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/quinton-larson Quinton Larson is a design leader who has consistently brought thoughtful leadership into the companies where he works. In this episode we speak with Quinton about his prior work at IDEO and eBay, his involvement with Indeed’s Job Seeker Journey team, how he makes sure the right people are involved in project kickoffs, and how design systems help create a more connected workflow between designers and developers. Takeaways: Getting ...

Bob Baxley: What it takes to build a connected workflow

July 08, 2019 17:11 - 52 minutes - 121 MB

What do Yahoo, Apple, and Pinterest have in common? Silicon Valley design vet Bob Baxley. With extensive design leadership experience under his belt, Bob knows a thing or two about bridging the gaps between teams to help champion a connected workflow. In this episode, Aarron and Eli tap Bob’s insights on productive design reviews, getting in sync with engineers, and what it takes to build key relationships with executives—all in the name of making products people can’t imagine living without.

Bob Baxley: How Apple ran design like the Saturday Night Live writer's room

July 08, 2019 17:11 - 53 minutes

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/bob-baxley What do Yahoo, Apple, and Pinterest have in common? Silicon Valley design vet Bob Baxley. With extensive design leadership experience under his belt, Bob knows a thing or two about bridging the gaps between teams to help champion a connected workflow. In this episode, Aarron and Eli tap Bob’s insights on productive design reviews, getting in sync with engineers, and what it takes to build key relationships with executives—all in the nam...

Wells Fargo’s Josh Ulm on design’s role in business

June 25, 2019 00:27 - 53 minutes - 122 MB

Josh Ulm has quite the CV—Adobe Design Lead, Vodafone Head of UX, Oracle VP of Design, and now Wells Fargo SVP of Strategic Design and Insights. One thing he’s learned along the way is that “the most valuable role for design to play is influencing the business—not just the product." In this episode of the Design Better Podcast, Aarron and Eli covered subjects ranging from where the connected workflow is most broken, to the one critical question to ask executive sponsors when starting a proje...

Josh Ulm: Wells Fargo’s VP of Design on how design should be influencing business

June 25, 2019 00:27 - 53 minutes

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/josh-ulm Josh Ulm has quite the CV—Adobe Design Lead, Vodafone Head of UX, Oracle VP of Design, and now Wells Fargo SVP of Strategic Design and Insights. One thing he’s learned along the way is that “the most valuable role for design to play is influencing the business—not just the product." In this episode of the Design Better Podcast, Aarron and Eli covered subjects ranging from where the connected workflow is most broken, to the one critical qu...

Brad Frost and Dan Mall: Rethinking designer-developer collaboration

June 07, 2019 18:30 - 52 minutes - 122 MB

Enter design system pros Brad Frost and Dan Mall, long-time collaborators known for their expertise in bridging the gap between designers and developers. In this episode of the Design Better Podcast, Aarron and Eli talk with Dan and Brad about reducing friction between these two very different disciplines. They explore a few misconceptions around agile methodology, the risks of the creative technologist role, and breaking the design process to fix it. This is a conversation you don’t want to...

Brad Frost and Dan Mall: Rethinking Agile and how designers collaborate with developers

June 07, 2019 18:30 - 52 minutes

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/brad-frost-dan-mall Enter design system pros Brad Frost and Dan Mall, long-time collaborators known for their expertise in bridging the gap between designers and developers. In this episode of the Design Better Podcast, Aarron and Eli talk with Dan and Brad about reducing friction between these two very different disciplines. They explore a few misconceptions around agile methodology, the risks of the creative technologist role, and breaking the d...

Airbnb’s Benjamin Evans on the power of inclusive design

May 28, 2019 00:49 - 48 minutes - 112 MB

Benjamin Evans, Inclusive Design Lead for Airbnb, is part of a new kind of problem solvers tackling issues like racism, sexism, and bias in digital product design. In this episode of the Design Better Podcast, Eli and Aarron chat with Benjamin about using techniques like design thinking, research, and storytelling to ensure a more inclusive experience for all your users.

Benjamin Evans: How Airbnb uses inclusive design to create a successful business

May 28, 2019 00:49 - 49 minutes

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/benjamin-evans Benjamin Evans, Inclusive Design Lead for Airbnb, is part of a new kind of problem solvers tackling issues like racism, sexism, and bias in digital product design. In this episode of the Design Better Podcast, Eli and Aarron chat with Benjamin about using techniques like design thinking, research, and storytelling to ensure a more inclusive experience for all your users. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Google’s Abigail Hart Gray: Communicating the value of design

May 13, 2019 20:03 - 44 minutes - 103 MB

Abigail Hart Gray, Director of UX at Google, is one of the most inspiring design leaders we know. A self-proclaimed analytics nerd, Abigail uses numbers to deftly communicate the value of design to her colleagues, giving her team the runway to do great work. In this episode of the Design Better Podcast, Eli and Aarron get Abigail’s take on measuring design’s impact on business, how parenthood has changed her approach to problem solving, and more.

Abigail Hart Gray: Google's Director of UX explains design to non-designers with numbers

May 13, 2019 20:03 - 45 minutes

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/abigail-gray Abigail Hart Gray, Director of UX at Google, is one of the most inspiring design leaders we know. A self-proclaimed analytics nerd, Abigail uses numbers to deftly communicate the value of design to her colleagues, giving her team the runway to do great work. In this episode of the Design Better Podcast, Eli and Aarron get Abigail’s take on measuring design’s impact on business, how parenthood has changed her approach to problem solvin...

Julie Zhuo: Learning to manage like a leader

April 29, 2019 20:51 - 52 minutes - 122 MB

Listen as Julie Zhuo, VP of Product Design at Facebook and author of The Making of a Manager, recalls some of her earliest professional experiences at one of the fastest growing companies on the planet. She reveals how she got her start and grew to be a highly influential design leader renowned for building top-notch teams. Julie talks about the difference between leading and managing, and shares personal examples that can help you advance your career. Bio Julie Zhuo is one of Silicon Va...

Julie Zhuo: Facebook's former VP of Product Design on what she got right and wrong as a leader

April 29, 2019 20:51 - 53 minutes

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/julie-zhuo Listen as Julie Zhuo, VP of Product Design at Facebook and author of The Making of a Manager, recalls some of her earliest professional experiences at one of the fastest growing companies on the planet. She reveals how she got her start and grew to be a highly influential design leader renowned for building top-notch teams. Julie talks about the difference between leading and managing, and shares personal examples that can help you adva...

Bonus Episode: Leah Buley and the New Frontier of Design Maturity

April 18, 2019 11:15 - 38 minutes

What if you could unlock the full potential for business impact in design? On today's episode we are joined by Leah Buley, InVision's Director of Design Education and author of the new report on design in business, The New Design Frontier. Leah shares the insights she's learned from surveying thousands of companies to explore the relationship between design practices and business performance. We chat with Leah about how teams are measuring success in design, the dimensions of design maturity,...

Season 3 Special Preview

April 11, 2019 12:04 - 2 minutes

The next season of the Design Better podcast is nearly here. Listen to a special preview of the upcoming season which focuses on the impact and challenges of the connected workflow. We sat down with some incredible design leaders from Facebook, Airbnb, Google, Wall Street Journal, Atlassian, and Intuit for honest conversations that will give you a fresh perspective on the way you work. Be sure to subscribe for the new season coming soon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/ad...

Special Episode - Jake Knapp - Make Time

October 09, 2018 07:00 - 49 minutes - 115 MB

What if you could set aside a distraction-free space to accomplish one meaningful thing in your life each day? How might that change your relationships, hobbies, work, or mental wellbeing? In a special episode of the DesignBetter.Co Podcast, we talk to Jake Knapp, co-author of the New York Times bestseller Sprint, about his new book, Make Time. The book advocates for forgetting about being productive and focusing instead on being purposeful by using design sprints thinking to define a “hig...

Jake Knapp: The guy who brought us the design sprint wants us to rethink time management

October 09, 2018 07:00 - 54 minutes

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/jake-knapp-make-time What if you could set aside a distraction-free space to accomplish one meaningful thing in your life each day? How might that change your relationships, hobbies, work, or mental wellbeing? In a special episode of the Design Better Podcast, we talk to Jake Knapp, co-author of the New York Times bestseller Sprint, about his new book, Make Time. The book advocates for forgetting about being productive and focusing instead on bein...

Margaret Stewart: Facebook's VP of Product Design on what unifies big teams

August 06, 2018 13:00 - 37 minutes

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/margaret-gould-stewart As organizations grow, they tend to think in terms of processes and data, and although those elements are vital to scale, teams sometimes lose sight of the why. Key to scaling is building an infrastructure that supports a company’s core mission. In our final Season 2 episode of the Design Better Podcast, Facebook Vice President of Product Design Margaret Gould Stewart talks with Aarron and Eli about how storytelling, open co...

#020: Margaret Stewart: Scaling through storytelling

August 06, 2018 13:00 - 35 minutes - 82 MB

As organizations grow, they tend to think in terms of processes and data, and although those elements are vital to scale, teams sometimes lose sight of the why. Key to scaling is building an infrastructure that supports a company’s core mission. In our final Season 2 episode of the DesignBetter.Co Podcast, Facebook Vice President of Product Design Margaret Gould Stewart talks with Aarron and Eli about how storytelling, open communication, and keeping the focus on the customer help the comp...

#019: Kim Williams: Creating, scaling, and championing design systems

July 23, 2018 13:00 - 38 minutes - 87.3 MB

A design system helps deliver a unified experience for the end user, no matter what the medium. But it also means a cohesive internal experience as well. Design systems unite teams across time and space, bring designers and engineers together through a shared language, and help designers focus on experience over style. In our newest episode of the DesignBetter.Co Podcast, Indeed’s director of design experience, Kim Williams, talks with Aarron and Eli about the evolution of Indeed’s design ...

Kim Williams: How Indeed's design system inspires collaboration

July 23, 2018 13:00 - 40 minutes

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/kim-williams A design system helps deliver a unified experience for the end user, no matter what the medium. But it also means a cohesive internal experience as well. Design systems unite teams across time and space, bring designers and engineers together through a shared language, and help designers focus on experience over style. In our newest episode of the DesignBetter.Co Podcast, Indeed’s director of design experience, Kim Williams, talks wit...

Rewind: Irene Au explains the secrets to scaling design teams at Google

July 09, 2018 13:00 - 36 minutes

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/irene-au For many years, Google’s engineering-led culture cherished efficiency over user experience. Irene Au arrived at a pivotal moment in the company’s history and helped shape the way Google’s products clearly value design today.   In this Rewind episode of the Design Better Podcast, Khosla Venture’s Irene Au talks about how she helped scale design at Google, shaped the design philosophy that carries into today, and now, as design partner at K...

Rewind: Irene Au explains the secrets to scaling design teams

July 09, 2018 13:00 - 33 minutes - 46.5 MB

For many years, Google’s engineering-led culture cherished efficiency over user experience. Irene Au arrived at a pivotal moment in the company’s history and helped shape the way Google’s products clearly value design today.   In this Rewind episode of the DesignBetter.Co podcast, Khosla Venture’s Irene Au talks about how she helped scale design at Google, shaped the design philosophy that carries into today, and now, as design partner at Khosla Ventures, helps startups build their own t...

Vas Natarajan: Hallmarks of a healthy team and better designer/developer partnerships

June 25, 2018 13:00 - 32 minutes

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/vas-natarajan There isn’t a one-size-fits-all approach to scaling design, but there are similarities between fast-growing companies that prime them for lasting success. In this episode, Accel Partners’ Vas Natarajan talks about effective ways design leaders can operationalize hiring and scaling. He also discusses the hallmarks of a healthy team at any growth stage, what designers and developers can to do collaborate better, and why storytelling is...

#018: Vas Natarajan: operationalizing design for business success

June 25, 2018 13:00 - 29 minutes - 68.5 MB

There isn’t a one-size-fits-all approach to scaling design, but there are similarities between fast-growing companies that prime them for lasting success. In this episode, Accel Partners’ Vas Natarajan talks about effective ways design leaders can operationalize hiring and scaling. He also discusses the hallmarks of a healthy team at any growth stage, what designers and developers can to do collaborate better, and why storytelling is key to growing a company. “Storytelling capability—e...

#017: Maria Giudice: DesignOps, diversity, and design making a difference

June 11, 2018 13:00 - 53 minutes - 73.9 MB

Rallying around a shared vision is one of the biggest challenges for design teams operating at scale. So how can you foster that vision and bring people together to execute it? In this episode, Hot Studio Founder and former Autodesk VP of Experience Design Maria Giudice talks about overcoming team silos and learning to lead with influence instead of authority. She also discusses why diversity is one of the keys to great product design, along with lessons she learned while working with fast...

Maria Giudice: The origin of DesignOps and how to make Agile not suck for designers

June 11, 2018 13:00 - 55 minutes

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/maria-giudice Rallying around a shared vision is one of the biggest challenges for design teams operating at scale. So how can you foster that vision and bring people together to execute it? In this episode, Hot Studio Founder and former Autodesk VP of Experience Design Maria Giudice talks about overcoming team silos and learning to lead with influence instead of authority. She also discusses why diversity is one of the keys to great product desig...

Megan Quinn: A venture capitalist's views on how to scale a team

May 29, 2018 17:00 - 50 minutes

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/megan-quinn Do you ever wonder what it’s like to be part of fast-growing, design-led companies like Slack or Medium? Every team has challenges with scaling—and it turns out those challenges share many common traits when you peek behind the curtain. In this episode, Spark Capital’s Megan Quinn talks about the common hurdles she sees across companies as they scale. She also discusses her own experiences going from the engineering-driven culture at G...

#016: Megan Quinn: making design-led choices to scale with better outcomes

May 29, 2018 17:00 - 48 minutes - 111 MB

Do you ever wonder what it’s like to be part of fast-growing, design-led companies like Slack, Medium, or even InVision? Every team has challenges with scaling—and it turns out those challenges share many common traits when you peek behind the curtain. In this episode, Spark Capital’s Megan Quinn talks about the common hurdles she sees across companies as they scale. She also discusses her own experiences going from the engineering-driven culture at Google to the design-driven culture at ...

#015: Meriah Garrett: Scaling with empathy and intention

May 15, 2018 12:00 - 44 minutes - 102 MB

When companies start scaling design, the emphasis is sometimes on getting more shipped—but what if the first deliverable was a balanced team instead of a new feature?   USAA’s Chief Design Officer Meriah Garrett has a unique approach to creating balanced design teams. In this new episode, she also discusses her role in the C-suite and how being mission-driven affects product development across multiple offices.   “We have this power to synthesize the world into something that feels a...

Meriah Garrett: Secrets to leading big design teams

May 15, 2018 12:00 - 47 minutes

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/meriah-garrett When companies start scaling design, the emphasis is sometimes on getting more shipped—but what if the first deliverable was a balanced team instead of a new feature?   USAA’s Chief Design Officer Meriah Garrett has a unique approach to creating balanced design teams. In this new episode, she also discusses her role in the C-suite and how being mission-driven affects product development across multiple offices.   “We have this power...

#014: TS Balaji: representing design with a multidisciplinary approach

April 30, 2018 13:00 - 48 minutes - 110 MB

Design leaders spend a lot of energy trying to get a seat at the table. It’s an ongoing process—and it’s tough to keep design involved over time. What questions should be asked along the way, and what business language can design leaders use? In this episode, LogMeIn’s Vice President Product Design & Customer Experience TS Balaji talks about helping big corporations use design to be competitive in new ways. He covers everything from maturity models and setting up team playbooks to how LogM...

TS Balaji: Thinking and acting like a business leader

April 30, 2018 13:00 - 50 minutes

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/ts-balaji Design leaders spend a lot of energy trying to get a seat at the table. It’s an ongoing process—and it’s tough to keep design involved over time. What questions should be asked along the way, and what business language can design leaders use? In this episode, LogMeIn’s Vice President Product Design & Customer Experience TS Balaji talks about helping big corporations use design to be competitive in new ways. He covers everything from matu...

Diana Mounter: Building efficient design systems at Github

April 16, 2018 13:00 - 41 minutes

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/diana-mounter Design systems give product designers and developers reusable, interchangeable components to make the design process efficient and repeatable. They’re a critical part of scaling—so why build everything from scratch when you can plug in pre-built elements? In this episode, GitHub’s Design Systems Manager Diana Mounter talks about navigating the path from style guide contributor to full-time design systems manager. She covers everythin...

#013: Diana Mounter: from design silos to design system

April 16, 2018 13:00 - 39 minutes - 90.3 MB

Design systems give product designers and developers reusable, interchangeable components to make the design process efficient and repeatable. They’re a critical part of scaling—so why build everything from scratch when you can plug in pre-built elements? In this episode, GitHub’s Design Systems Manager Diana Mounter talks about navigating the path from style guide contributor to full-time design systems manager. She covers everything from getting buy-in beyond the design team to deciding ...

Meredith Black: building DesignOps dream teams

April 01, 2018 18:00 - 41 minutes

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/meredith-black A lot of companies are investing more in design. As they do, the organization scales. As it scales, it has to operationalize, become more efficient, and plug into the rest of the company—but what makes all that possible? In this episode, Pinterest’s Head of Design Operations Meredith Black talks about the emerging practice of DesignOps, and how she introduced it to Pinterest more than three years ago. Meredith covers everything from...

#012: Meredith Black: building DesignOps dream teams

April 01, 2018 18:00 - 39 minutes - 89.5 MB

A lot of companies are investing more in design. As they do, the organization scales. As it scales, it has to operationalize, become more efficient, and plug into the rest of the company—but what makes all that possible? In this episode, Pinterest’s Head of Design Operations Meredith Black talks about the emerging practice of DesignOps, and how she introduced it to Pinterest more than three years ago. Meredith covers everything from when it’s time to start building a DesignOps team to advi...

Lynsey Thornton: Inside Shopify’s growth, re-organization, and design system

March 18, 2018 18:00 - 39 minutes

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/lynsey-thornton Over the last 10 years, Shopify has grown from a scrappy 5-person startup to a team of more than 3,000 across five locations. Scaling a company that fast takes a lot of talented people—and Lynsey Thornton is one of them. As Shopify’s VP of UX and Core Product, Lynsey takes on an array of challenging tasks. In the first episode of the season, she talks about everything from building a leadership pipeline to governance of the famed d...

#011: Lynsey Thornton: going with the org-change flow

March 18, 2018 18:00 - 36 minutes - 84.8 MB

Over the last 10 years, Shopify has grown from a scrappy 5-person startup to a team of more than 3,000 across five locations. Scaling a company that fast takes a lot of talented people—and Lynsey Thornton is one of them. As Shopify’s VP of UX and Core Product, Lynsey takes on an array of challenging tasks. In the first episode of the season, she talks about everything from building a leadership pipeline to governance of the famed design system Polaris. Her advice and first-hand experiences...

Mia Blume: Are you ready to shift from team member to team leader?

October 29, 2017 18:00 - 44 minutes

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/mia-blume “Will I lose my creativity? Will I be stuck in meetings all day?” Those are common concerns for any individual contributor transitioning to a managerial role—even experienced product leaders like Mia Blume. Luckily, Mia’s impressive career spans positions at places like IDEO, Pinterest, and Square, so she’s had plenty of opportunities to see what it takes to make a fundamental impact on culture from beyond her laptop screen. In this epis...

#010: Mia Blume: design, or be designed

October 29, 2017 18:00 - 42 minutes - 58.3 MB

“Will I lose my creativity? Will I be stuck in meetings all day?” Those are common concerns for any individual contributor transitioning to a managerial role—even experienced product leaders like Mia Blume. Luckily, Mia’s impressive career spans positions at places like IDEO, Pinterest, and Square, so she’s had plenty of opportunities to see what it takes to make a fundamental impact on culture from beyond her laptop screen. In this episode, Mia shares what it was like stepping away from...

Christian Madsbjerg: How ethnography leads to a deeper understanding of users

October 15, 2017 18:00 - 54 minutes

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/christian-madsbjerg In today’s tech-driven economy, it seems like it can be hard to justify the value of a traditional liberal arts education. But given the speed at which AI-driven advancements are taking over traditional jobs—even technical ones—perhaps a better understanding of humans and their cultures is exactly what we need. Because being product-driven really means people people-driven—and we’re betting few people understand the human exper...

#009: Christian Madsbjerg: exploring how humans experience the world

October 15, 2017 18:00 - 52 minutes - 72.5 MB

In today’s tech-driven economy, it seems like it can be hard to justify the value of a traditional liberal arts education. But given the speed at which AI-driven advancements are taking over traditional jobs—even technical ones—perhaps a better understanding of humans and their cultures is exactly what we need. Because being product-driven really means people people-driven—and we’re betting few people understand the human experience better than the author of Sensemaking, and co-founder and...

#008: Jake Knapp: beyond the Sprint

October 01, 2017 18:00 - 56 minutes - 130 MB

If we asked you to name a recent book that’s really changed how product teams address sticky challenges, there’s a good chance Jake Knapp’s Sprint would be at the top of your list. Since publishing and popularizing the process, design sprints have become a tool for teams at organizations as wide ranging as Prudential, the United Nations, and The British Museum. Given the impact of Sprint, we’re delighted to have Jake on the show to dig into questions we’ve been curious about since reading....

Jake Knapp: Lessons from running 150+ design sprints at Google Ventures

October 01, 2017 18:00 - 59 minutes

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/jake-knapp-design-sprint If we asked you to name a recent book that’s really changed how product teams address sticky challenges, there’s a good chance Jake Knapp’s Sprint would be at the top of your list. Since publishing and popularizing the process, design sprints have become a tool for teams at organizations as wide ranging as Prudential, the United Nations, and The British Museum. Given the impact of Sprint, we’re delighted to have Jake on th...

Laura Martini: So your boss doesn't believe in design research

September 17, 2017 18:00 - 42 minutes

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/007-laura-martini-getting-to-the-right-finish-line If there’s anyone we’ve interviewed on the Design Better Podcast so far that really embodies the product-driven concept, it’s Laura Martini. Not only does she have a background in both design and engineering, but she also has a keen product sense with a real understanding the business factors behind good design decisions. Laura's article on Medium entitled, "So your boss doesn’t believe in design ...

#007: Laura Martini: getting to the right finish line

September 17, 2017 18:00 - 39 minutes - 91.6 MB

If there’s anyone we’ve interviewed on the DesignBetter.Co Podcast so far that really embodies the product-driven concept, it’s Laura Martini. Not only does she have a background in both design and engineering, but she also has a keen product sense with a real understanding the business factors behind good design decisions. Laura has had a really interesting career too—from working as a researcher in John Maeda’s Media Lab at MIT and leading the design team at med-tech startup Counsyl to h...

Michael Leon: How skateboarding prepared him for Nike, Patagonia, and Sonos

September 03, 2017 18:00 - 42 minutes

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/michael-leon How do you go from being a self-professed skate punk, to a design director at Nike, creative director at Patagonia, and land as the global creative director for Sonos? As a creative force, Michael Leon has worked with some of the most product driven companies out there. In this episode, Aaron and Eli talk with Michael about the tension between sustainability and business goals, maintaining a consistent voice and tone across a company ...

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