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Design Better

211 episodes - English - Latest episode: 6 days ago - ★★★★★ - 286 ratings

Design Better co-hosts Eli Woolery and Aarron Walter explore the intersection of design, technology, and the creative process through conversations with inspiring guests across many creative fields. Whether you’re design curious or a design pro, Design Better is guaranteed to inspire and inform. Episodes are released semi-weekly. Vanity Fair calls Design Better, “sharp, to the point, and full of incredibly valuable information for anyone looking to better understand how to build a more innovative world.”

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Google’s Annie Jean Baptiste: Building better products for everyone

December 08, 2020 16:26 - 35 minutes - 85.2 MB

As designers and design leaders, most of us understand the ethical importance of making our products accessible and inclusive for all the people who use them. But we don’t always understand the best way to go about doing this, or the business case for making it a priority. That’s why we were excited to speak with Annie Jean Baptiste, Head of Product Inclusion at Google. Our recent guest John Maeda said, "If there is one voice in tech to listen to right now, it is Annie's on the material im...

Annie Jean Baptiste: Google's approach to inclusive design

December 08, 2020 16:26 - 35 minutes

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/annie-jean-baptiste As designers and design leaders, most of us understand the ethical importance of making our products accessible and inclusive for all the people who use them. But we don’t always understand the best way to go about doing this, or the business case for making it a priority. That’s why we were excited to speak with Annie Jean Baptiste, Head of Product Inclusion at Google. Our recent guest John Maeda said, "If there is one voice i...

Author Bill Burnett: Designing Your Work Life

November 24, 2020 09:00 - 1 hour - 145 MB

In the wake of a worldwide pandemic and economic catastrophe, many of our friends and colleagues in the world of digital product design are fortunate to have kept their jobs, but there have also been many who were not so lucky. We thought it would be timely to bring in an expert who has been using a designer’s mindset to help people reframe their approach to their careers. Bill Burnett, co-author of the bestselling book Designing Your Life, has written a new book called Designing Your Work...

Bill Burnett: Designing your work fife

November 24, 2020 09:00 - 1 hour

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/bill-burnett In the wake of a pandemic and economic catastrophe, many of our friends and colleagues in the world of digital product design are fortunate to have kept their jobs, but there have also been many who were not so lucky. We thought it would be timely to bring in an expert who has been using a designer’s mindset to help people reframe their approach to their careers. Bill Burnett, co-author of the bestselling book Designing Your Life, has...

Debbie Millman: Revealing what matters the most to designers and creatives

November 10, 2020 09:00 - 40 minutes

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/debbie-millman We’re not ashamed to admit that, when we booked Debbie Millman for our show, we were a little intimidated. Not by Debbie herself, who always comes across as kind, smart, and thoughtful in the interviews she does for her own show, Design Matters.  But just knowing that we were interviewing a pioneer in the podcasting space, someone who has been interviewing designers and creatives for over 15 years, and who spends a huge amount of ti...

John Maeda: Design in Tech Report

October 27, 2020 08:00 - 43 minutes

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/john-maeda Over the arc of his career, John Maeda has been many things: a professor at MIT, president at the Rhode Island School of Design, a Design Partner at Kleiner Perkins, head of Computational Design and Inclusion at Automattic, and now Chief Experience Officer at Publicis Sapient.  In our interview with John, we learn how curiosity and humility have driven his wide-ranging and accomplished career. We also dive deep into his recent CX Report...

John Maeda: Working at the intersection of design, business, and technology

October 27, 2020 08:00 - 42 minutes - 102 MB

  Over the arc of his career, John Maeda has been many things: a professor at MIT, president at the Rhode Island School of Design, a Design Partner at Kleiner Perkins, head of Computational Design and Inclusion at Automattic, and now Chief Experience Officer at Publicis Sapient.  In our interview with John, we learn how curiosity and humility have driven his wide-ranging and accomplished career. We also dive deep into his recent CX Report, which was formerly called the Design in Tech Repo...

Seth Godin: Learning to take risks, be generous, and make a ruckus

October 13, 2020 08:00 - 43 minutes

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/seth-godin If you don’t know who Seth Godin is, just type “Seth” into Google or DuckDuckGo. The first entry will lead you to his blog, where he writes—every day—about marketing, design, writing, how being a better human will make you better at your job. Once you’ve started to read his blog, you’ll probably be hungry for more of his wisdom. He’s written over eighteen bestselling books on business and marketing, including Linchpin, Purple Cow, and T...

Jina Anne: How design systems affect company culture

August 18, 2020 17:15 - 41 minutes

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/jina-anne To celebrate the new InVision DSM, we're sharing one of our favorite episodes in conversation with Design Systems Advocate, Jina Anne. If you’re engaged in any sort of community surrounding Design Systems, whether it’s the Design Systems Slack, or the Clarity Conference, then you have likely benefited from Jina Anne’s work. A self-styled Design Systems Advocate, Jina has been passionate about creating events, content and resources that b...

Designing for Diversity: Project Inkblot’s Jahan Mantin and Boyuan Gao

June 11, 2020 03:55 - 46 minutes - 109 MB

In today’s episode, we talk with Boyuan Gao and Jahan Mantin—the founders of Project Inkblot—who have built a practical framework that can help everyone design for diversity, and can also be a guide for challenging conversations. We discuss how they see design as an opportunity to bridge the divide and bring people into the conversation about designing products and services that address everyone’s needs, regardless of race, ethnicity, gender, or religion. We also talk to them about their d...

Jahan Mantin and Boyuan Gao: Designing for diversity

June 11, 2020 03:55 - 47 minutes

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/designing-for-diversity In today’s episode, we talk with Boyuan Gao and Jahan Mantin—the founders of Project Inkblot—who have built a practical framework that can help everyone design for diversity, and can also be a guide for challenging conversations. We discuss how they see design as an opportunity to bridge the divide and bring people into the conversation about designing products and services that address everyone’s needs, regardless of race,...

Silicon Valley Product Group’s Marty Cagan: Why product management is misunderstood

June 02, 2020 00:18 - 51 minutes - 118 MB

Are you on a product team or a feature team? After you listen to our interview with Marty Cagan, legendary product management guru, author, and partner at Silicon Valley Product Group, you’ll know just where you stand, and how to become a product team leader if you aren’t already one. We also discuss why product management is misunderstood, the dual track agile process, discovery sprints, and the four types of prototypes that Marty has classified, including user, feasibility, live data, and ...

Marty Cagan: Understanding product management and Agile

June 02, 2020 00:18 - 51 minutes

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/marty-cagan Are you on a product team or a feature team? After you listen to our interview with Marty Cagan, legendary product management guru, author, and partner at Silicon Valley Product Group, you’ll know just where you stand, and how to become a product team leader if you aren’t already one. We also discuss why product management is misunderstood, the dual track agile process, discovery sprints, and the four types of prototypes that Marty has...

Pinterest's Naveen Gavini: Knitting different disciplines together

May 19, 2020 06:58 - 55 minutes - 127 MB

We’ve spoken to a lot of design leaders over the course of the Design Better Podcast, but this episode is the first chance we’ve had to speak with someone who has made the move from being an engineering leader to a design leader. Naveen Gavini, Head of Design and User Experience at Pinterest, spent time as an engineering manager and then as head of product engineering before taking on his current role, and he brings a unique perspective on leading design teams with him from his journey. Na...

Naveen Gavini: Uniting design and engineering at Pinterest

May 19, 2020 06:58 - 53 minutes

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/podcast We’ve spoken to a lot of design leaders over the course of the Design Better Podcast, but this episode is the first chance we’ve had to speak with someone who has made the move from being an engineering leader to a design leader. Naveen Gavini, Head of Design and User Experience at Pinterest, spent time as an engineering manager and then as head of product engineering before taking on his current role, and he brings a unique perspective on...

Atlassian’s Stephen Deasy: How designers and engineers unite the possible with the probable

May 12, 2020 20:55 - 41 minutes - 94.5 MB

“Designers are about possibilities. Engineers are about probabilities.” This quote, from Stephen Deasy, Head of Cloud Engineering at Atlassian, is just one example of how concisely he can describe the relationship between designers and engineers. Our interview with him was our first chance to learn from a leader on the engineering side, and he shared a wealth of knowledge that will help designers work more effectively with their engineering counterparts. Stephen gave us insights about runnin...

Stephen Deasy: How designers and engineers can work together better

May 12, 2020 20:55 - 41 minutes

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/stephen-deasy “Designers are about possibilities. Engineers are about probabilities.” This quote, from Stephen Deasy, Head of Cloud Engineering at Atlassian, is just one example of how concisely he can describe the relationship between designers and engineers. Our interview with him was our first chance to learn from a leader on the engineering side, and he shared a wealth of knowledge that will help designers work more effectively with their engi...

Author Joshua Seiden: Measuring work and rethinking goal setting

May 05, 2020 23:07 - 42 minutes - 98.6 MB

*** We’re nominated for a Webby 2020! Vote here: dbtr.co/webby2020 *** Love it or hate it, the agile approach to software development seems to be here to stay. Often, it’s hard to get good design practice to fit within an agile framework, so our next guest, Joshua Seiden—co-author of Lean UX and Outcomes Over Output—may be particularly helpful to those of you who are struggling. We chat with Joshua about how to fit user research into a sprint, and how he advocates for setting outcomes to...

Joshua Seiden: Agile, Lean UX, and measuring your work

May 05, 2020 23:07 - 42 minutes

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/joshua-seiden Love it or hate it, the agile approach to software development seems to be here to stay. Often, it’s hard to get good design practice to fit within an Agile framework, so our next guest, Joshua Seiden—co-author of Lean UX and Outcomes Over Output—may be particularly helpful to those of you who are struggling. We chat with Joshua about how to fit user research into a sprint, and how he advocates for setting outcomes to guide the work ...

NASA’s Steve Rader: Redefining the moonshot with diverse teams

April 28, 2020 21:48 - 53 minutes - 122 MB

There’s a lot of talk in the tech world about moonshots, and what it takes to build a team capable of achieving them. We thought it might be helpful to speak with someone at an organization that has achieved actual moonshots, and so we were thrilled to get a chance to speak with Steve Rader, who is Deputy Director for the Center of Excellence for Collaborative Innovation at NASA. We chat with Steve about how he communicates across teams where expertise and vernacular might be very different,...

Steve Rader: NASA's approach to problem-solving and leading people

April 28, 2020 21:48 - 53 minutes

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/steve-rader There’s a lot of talk in the tech world about moonshots, and what it takes to build a team capable of achieving them. We thought it might be helpful to speak with someone at an organization that has achieved actual moonshots, and so we were thrilled to get a chance to speak with Steve Rader, who is Deputy Director for the Center of Excellence for Collaborative Innovation at NASA. We chat with Steve about how he communicates across team...

Why business thinking for designers matters more than ever

April 21, 2020 16:04 - 33 minutes - 77.3 MB

We’ve just published a new book on DesignBetter.com called Business Thinking for Designers by Ryan Rumsey, formerly of Apple, USAA, EA, and Nestlé. It’s a challenging time out there, and we know many of you are facing uncertainty in your work, whether you’re in an industry that’s been heavily hit by the current crisis, or even if you’re lucky enough to be with a company that is navigating the current storm more or less intact. Now more than ever, designers need to be able to demonstrate an ...

Ryan Rumsey: Designers need to understand the language of business

April 21, 2020 16:04 - 34 minutes

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/business-thinking We’ve just published a new book on DesignBetter.com called Business Thinking for Designers by Ryan Rumsey, formerly of Apple, USAA, EA, and Nestlé. It’s a challenging time out there, and we know many of you are facing uncertainty in your work, whether you’re in an industry that’s been heavily hit by the current crisis, or even if you’re lucky enough to be with a company that is navigating the current storm more or less intact. N...

Remote Work for Design Teams: Lessons in leadership, collaboration, and culture

April 07, 2020 04:05 - 31 minutes

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/remoteworkbook We’ve just published a new book on DesignBetter.com called Remote Work for Design Teams, to help you make a graceful transition from the office to a remote work environment. In this bonus episode, we speak with the authors of the book (all from InVision): Abby Sinnott, Managing Editor, Greg Storey, Senior Director of Executive Programs, and Ben Goldman, Director of InVision Films. We chat with Abby, Greg and Ben about their own remo...

Richard Banfield and Alison Rand: Remote design sprints and design reviews

March 31, 2020 06:34 - 54 minutes

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/richard-banfield-alison-rand In this bonus episode, we’re once more focused on remote teams, and more specifically on best practices for facilitating remote design sprints, building trust between teams in a remote environment, and running effective critiques and design reviews remotely. In the first half of the episode, we chat with Richard Banfield, VP of Design Transformation at InVision, and author of the book Enterprise Design Sprints, who gi...

How to run remote design sprints and design reviews: Richard Banfield and Alison Rand

March 31, 2020 06:34 - 52 minutes - 122 MB

In this bonus episode, we’re once more focused on remote teams, and more specifically on best practices for facilitating remote design sprints, building trust between teams in a remote environment, and running effective critiques and design reviews remotely. In the first half of the episode, we chat with Richard Banfield, VP of Design Transformation at InVision, and author of the book Enterprise Design Sprints, who gives us practical guidance on how to run a remote design sprint effective...

Making remote teams work

March 23, 2020 23:49 - 31 minutes

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/stephen-gates-jennifer-aldrich In this bonus episode, we chat about balancing personal and professional demands in a remote environment, especially during these challenging times. Join special guests Jennifer Aldrich, Senior Manager of Design Community Partnerships, and Stephen Gates, Head Design Evangelist, at InVision, as we discuss best practices for remote communication and how to build trust within your remote teams. We hope this episode help...

VMWare’s Jehad Affoneh: Be a business leader, not a design leader

March 17, 2020 04:41 - 54 minutes - 125 MB

In this episode, we speak with VMWare’s Head of Design Jehad Affoneh about how he measures the business impact of design, and aligns design goals with engineering goals. We learn why he thinks it’s important to lead with context, and how he goes about ensuring that the diverse voices on his team are heard. You’ll hear: How OKRs can align goals across design and engineering Lessons from running an internal conference for designers and executives Tactics for ensuring diverse voices on y...

Jehad Affoneh: VMWare’s head of design on being a business leader, not a design leader

March 17, 2020 04:41 - 54 minutes

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/jehad-affoneh In this episode, we speak with VMWare’s Head of Design Jehad Affoneh about how he measures the business impact of design, and aligns design goals with engineering goals. We learn why he thinks it’s important to lead with context, and how he goes about ensuring that the diverse voices on his team are heard. You’ll hear: How OKRs can align goals across design and engineering Lessons from running an internal conference for designers a...

Amazon’s Joanna Peña-Bickley: Bringing more diversity into leadership

March 09, 2020 19:00 - 1 hour - 146 MB

Joanna Peña-Bickley has had an amazing arc to her design leadership career: from Chief Creative Officer at Matter Worldwide and IBM, to her current role as Head of Research and Design for Alexa Devices at Amazon, Joanna has always sought to design things that are “useful, usable, and magical.” In this interview, we talk with Joanna about working cross functionally with both software and hardware teams, and what she’s learned about building a more connected workflow. We also get Joanna’s ta...

Joanna Peña-Bickley: Amazon Alexa's design leader on collaboration and diverse teams

March 09, 2020 19:00 - 1 hour

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/joanna-pena-bickley Joanna Peña-Bickley has had an amazing arc to her design leadership career: from Chief Creative Officer at Matter Worldwide and IBM, to her current role as Head of Research and Design for Alexa Devices at Amazon, Joanna has always sought to design things that are “useful, usable, and magical.” In this interview, we talk with Joanna about working cross functionally with both software and hardware teams, and what she’s learned ab...

The New York Times’ Natalya Shelburne: Bridging the designer and developer divide by building trust

March 02, 2020 19:31 - 40 minutes - 92.6 MB

Natalya Shelburne, Tech Lead for Design Engineering at The New York Times, sits at a fascinating crossroad of design and development. She leads a team of front-end developers and brings her own experience as a designer and art director to her current role. We chat with Natalya about her move from design to front-end dev, and some of the fears she faced along the way. We also talk about her approach to bridging design and dev, and what she brings from her prior career as a teacher into prod...

Natalya Shelburne: How designers and developers work together at The New York Times

March 02, 2020 19:31 - 40 minutes

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/natalya-shelburne Natalya Shelburne, Tech Lead for Design Engineering at The New York Times, sits at a fascinating crossroad of design and development. She leads a team of front-end developers and brings her own experience as a designer and art director to her current role. We chat with Natalya about her move from design to front-end dev, and some of the fears she faced along the way. We also talk about her approach to bridging design and dev, and...

IBM’s Kristin Wisnewski: Rise of an authentic leader

February 24, 2020 23:16 - 53 minutes - 123 MB

In the tech world, it's rare these days to spend more than a few years at one company. So we were curious to learn more about Kristin Wisnewski after hearing she’d been at IBM for 18 years. In her words, she “basically grew up at IBM,” and made a rapid transition from an individual contributor role to a leadership position in 2016, where she now leads an award-winning design team. We got to know the story of that career transformation, and what it took to get there. We also spoke with Kris...

Kristin Wisnewski: More women in tech leadership roles

February 24, 2020 23:16 - 49 minutes

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/kristin-wisnewski In the tech world, it's rare these days to spend more than a few years at one company. So we were curious to learn more about Kristin Wisnewski after hearing she’d been at IBM for 18 years. In her words, she “basically grew up at IBM,” and made a rapid transition from an individual contributor role to a leadership position in 2016, where she now leads an award-winning design team. We got to know the story of that career transform...

Nancy Douyon: Listening is the best hiring skill

February 17, 2020 22:03 - 1 hour - 163 MB

Nancy Douyon has a remarkable story that lead her into a career in technology. From her childhood in Haiti, to moving to Boston and taking part in an MIT program as a kid, to running away from home and then teaching as a teenager, and on to design roles at Google and Uber, Nancy’s unconventional path gives her a unique perspective on how to approach product design for an audience that includes everyone. We chat with Nancy about her initial reluctance to enter a technical field despite her ...

Nancy Douyon: Ethical and inclusive design

February 17, 2020 22:03 - 1 hour

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/nancy-douyon Nancy Douyon has a remarkable story that lead her into a career in technology. From her childhood in Haiti, to moving to Boston and taking part in an MIT program as a kid, to running away from home and then teaching as a teenager, and on to design roles at Google and Uber, Nancy’s unconventional path gives her a unique perspective on how to approach product design for an audience that includes everyone. We chat with Nancy about her in...

Season 4 Preview Episode

February 12, 2020 03:21 - 3 minutes

https://www.designbetterpodcast.com Next week we'll be launching our fourth season of the Design Better Podcast by InVision. Listen now for a special preview of the new season and get ready for new episodes coming to you weekly starting February 18th. In this new season we’re taking a closer look at how teams can work better together for greater impact across design, engineering, business, and product. We speak with Joanna Peña-Bickley about bringing more diversity into leadership, the head ...

Rewind: David Kelley, Founder of IDEO and the Stanford d.school, on Creative Confidence and Aligning Teams

February 04, 2020 14:50 - 49 minutes

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/david-kelley-creative-confidence To celebrate 1 million listens to the Design Better Podcast, we're rewinding to our episode with David Kelley, Founder of IDEO and the Stanford d.school, in honor of David just receiving the Edison Award for Innovation. And we're sending a special thanks to YOU for listening and helping us reach this 1 million milestone. We're tremendously grateful to you, your friends, and colleagues for tuning in and joining the ...

Stephen Gates on hiring and retaining the best design talent

December 19, 2019 00:44 - 54 minutes - 126 MB

  InVision is starting a new series of quarterly reports on design trends. The first in the series, a Design Trends Report on Talent, was created to help you learn proactive new ways to recruit, develop, and retain creative talent.  In this bonus episode, we chat with Stephen Gates, Head Design Evangelist at InVision, about some of the things he learned while researching and producing the report as its co-author, and how the report can best be used by design leaders looking to hire, and ...

Stephen Gates: Hiring and retaining the best design talent

December 19, 2019 00:44 - 55 minutes

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/stephen-gates InVision is starting a new series of quarterly reports on design trends. The first in the series, a Design Trends Report on Talent, was created to help you learn proactive new ways to recruit, develop, and retain creative talent.  In this bonus episode, we chat with Stephen Gates, Head Design Evangelist at InVision, about some of the things he learned while researching and producing the report as its co-author, and how the report ca...

Lessons from Season 3

November 08, 2019 05:20 - 28 minutes

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/season3recap The third season of the Design Better Podcast recently wrapped up, where we explored the connected workflow: how designers can work more effectively and efficiently with their engineering and product counterparts to create incredible customer experiences.  We interviewed guests ranging from Julie Zhuo, VP of Product Design at Facebook and author of The Making of a Manager, to Diego Rodriguez, Chief Product and Design Officer at Intuit...

Jina Anne, Founder of Clarity Conference, on Crafting a Community for Design Systems

September 27, 2019 16:37 - 40 minutes - 93.7 MB

If you’re engaged in any sort of community surrounding Design Systems, whether it’s the Design Systems Slack, or the Clarity Conference, then you have likely benefited from Jina Anne’s work. A self-styled Design Systems Advocate, Jina has been passionate about creating events, content and resources that bring together communities of people who care about design systems and how they impact product design. In this bonus episode of the Design Better Podcast, we chat with Jina about how she got ...

Jina Anne: Getting clarity on the components and maintenance of design systems

September 27, 2019 16:37 - 41 minutes

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/jina-anne If you’re engaged in any sort of community surrounding Design Systems, whether it’s the Design Systems Slack, or the Clarity Conference, then you have likely benefited from Jina Anne’s work. A self-styled Design Systems Advocate, Jina has been passionate about creating events, content and resources that bring together communities of people who care about design systems and how they impact product design. In this bonus episode of the Desi...

Diego Rodriguez of Intuit: Building design culture into big business

September 09, 2019 18:59 - 44 minutes - 102 MB

Diego Rodriguez has had a remarkable career at the intersection of design, business, and education. He has served as Global Managing Director of design firm IDEO, founding faculty member of Stanford’s d.school, and is currently Executive Vice President, Chief Product and Design Officer at Intuit. In this episode, we discuss how design can influence broader business goals. Diego shares Intuit’s unique approach to product design, and the need to build a certain level of trust and empathy with ...

Diego Rodriguez: How Intuit built design culture into the business

September 09, 2019 18:59 - 44 minutes

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/diego-rodriguez Diego Rodriguez has had a remarkable career at the intersection of design, business, and education. He has served as Global Managing Director of design firm IDEO, founding faculty member of Stanford’s d.school, and is currently Executive Vice President, Chief Product and Design Officer at Intuit. In this episode, we discuss how design can influence broader business goals. Diego shares Intuit’s unique approach to product design, and...

Journey into the connected workflow

September 03, 2019 20:57 - 3 minutes

As we prepare for the last episode of Season 3, take a look back at some of the stories that have inspired us. In this short update episode, hear from hosts Aarron Walter and Eli Woolery about what they've enjoyed about this season of the Design Better Podcast so far and preview our upcoming episode with Diego Rodriguez, Executive Vice President, Chief Product and Design Officer at Intuit. There's lots more to come, so be sure to subscribe for updates at www.designbetterpodcast.com. Learn mo...

Che Douglas of Booking.com: Leading a transformation

August 19, 2019 20:41 - 44 minutes - 102 MB

Che Douglas led the transformation of the design team at The Wall Street Journal, from a service-based organization to a strategic component of an embedded Engineering, Product and Design (EPD) structure. We chat with Che, who is now VP of Design at Booking.com, about how he got the right people involved to transform their design organization and spread design throughout the company. Che discusses the use of design sprints and how he showed the value of design to the organization through som...

Che Douglas: Transforming design at The Wall Street Journal and Booking.com

August 19, 2019 20:41 - 44 minutes

Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/che-douglas Che Douglas led the transformation of the design team at The Wall Street Journal, from a service-based organization to a strategic component of an embedded Engineering, Product and Design (EPD) structure. We chat with Che, who is now VP of Design at Booking.com, about how he got the right people involved to transform their design organization and spread design throughout the company. Che discusses the use of design sprints and how he s...

Atlassian’s Lori Kaplan on designing across the seams

August 01, 2019 20:57 - 37 minutes - 85.6 MB

Lori Kaplan is a veteran design leader, whose pioneering work includes authorship of the original Macintosh Human Interface Guidelines in the 1980s. In this episode we speak with Lori about how the Atlassian playbook helps both internal and external teams address design challenges, the deep roots of cross-functional collaboration at the company, as well as Lori’s perspective on how attitudes towards design have shifted in recent years across industries. Takeaways: How Atlassian “designs ac...

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