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Democracy in Danger

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All over the world, liberal democracy is under threat. Autocrats are taking hold. They’re crushing dissent. Controlling the media. Trampling voting rights. Don’t let them.

Join hosts Will Hitchcock and Siva Vaidhyanathan as they put the illiberal turn in context. Hear leading thinkers discuss serious threats to government by the people: from the dark web and media disinformation, to climate change, economic inequality and violent extremism. Help save the rule of the people — one episode at a time. And make democracy work better.

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S3 E1. Red Pill, Part I – The Terrible War

September 08, 2021 12:00 - 38 minutes - 88 MB

The “forever war” in Afghanistan claimed 243,000 lives and cost $2.3 trillion over two decades, ending with the chaotic withdrawal of U.S. troops last week. But what about the costs you can’t count? In this first of a series on lessons inscribed in America’s foreign military ventures, Will and Siva speak with Pulitzer Prize–winning journalist Spencer Ackerman about the fallout on the home front from the war on terror. Ackerman says the enterprise was built on lies and has disfigured our polit...

S3 E1 – Red Pill – Part I: The Terrible War

September 08, 2021 12:00 - 38 minutes - 88 MB

The “forever war” in Afghanistan claimed 243,000 lives and cost $2.3 trillion over two decades, ending with the chaotic withdrawal of U.S. troops last week. But what about the costs you can’t count? In this first of a series on lessons inscribed in America’s foreign military ventures, Will and Siva speak with Pulitzer Prize–winning journalist Spencer Ackerman about the fallout on the home front from the war on terror. Ackerman says the enterprise was built on lies and has disfigured our polit...

S3 E1 – Red Pill, Part I – The Terrible War

September 08, 2021 12:00 - 38 minutes - 88 MB

The “forever war” in Afghanistan claimed 243,000 lives and cost $2.3 trillion over two decades, ending with the chaotic withdrawal of U.S. troops last week. But what about the costs you can’t count? In this first of a series on lessons inscribed in America’s foreign military ventures, Will and Siva speak with Pulitzer Prize–winning journalist Spencer Ackerman about the fallout on the home front from the war on terror. Ackerman says the enterprise was built on lies and has disfigured our polit...

Bittersweet Dreams [Rebroadcast]

August 24, 2021 12:00 - 49 minutes - 112 MB

Well, it’s our final rebroadcast of the summer... For the one million young people who have grown up in the United States undocumented, feeling like they really belong here remains a dream deferred. This time, we hear from two of them living in limbo. Plus, legal scholar Amanda Frost unearths the unsettling stories of Americans who have had their citizenship taken away — because of their politics, their race and even because of whom they choose to marry.

People Power [Rebroadcast]

August 10, 2021 12:00 - 38 minutes - 88.4 MB

Srdja Popovic was 16 and playing guitar in a goth-rock band when Serbian strongman Slobodan Milosevic came to power. A decade later — after a series of brutal civil wars — Popovic and a few friends launched a resistance movement that grew to tens of thousands and helped topple a reign of terror. What can the secret of their success say about all the protests we see going on around the world today? Popovic shares his story, his principles and his hopes, in this rebroadcast of one of our favori...

Featuring "Democracy Works"

July 27, 2021 12:00 - 45 minutes - 103 MB

We’re doing something a little different this time — swapping feeds with one of our sister shows. On this episode you’ll hear Atlantic staff writer Anne Applebaum, author of “The Twilight of Democracy.” She spoke last February with Penn State’s McCourtney Institute in a live lecture plus Q&A with the hosts of “Democracy Works.” Applebaum discusses the Republican Party, the Cold War era, and why she believes economic inequality and democratic erosion are not as closely linked as some people t...

Featuring “Democracy Works”

July 27, 2021 12:00 - 45 minutes - 103 MB

We’re doing something a little different this time — swapping feeds with one of our sister shows. On this episode you’ll hear Atlantic staff writer Anne Applebaum, author of “The Twilight of Democracy.” She spoke last February with Penn State’s McCourtney Institute in a live lecture plus Q&A with the hosts of “Democracy Works.” Applebaum discusses the Republican Party, the Cold War era, and why she believes economic inequality and democratic erosion are not as closely linked as some people t...

Voting Blocked [Rebroadcast]

July 13, 2021 12:00 - 31 minutes - 71.2 MB

Last month the U.S. Supreme Court upheld a pair of Arizona laws limiting voter access to the polls, emboldening Republican-led states to pass restrictive measures that discourage election participation. As scholar Carol Anderson explained in Season One, such laws hark back to America’s long history of disenfranchising minorities. She says the core safeguards of the 1965 Voting Rights Act are unraveling — even as citizens across the country keep fighting to protect the kernel of democracy: the...

God’s Country [Rebroadcast]

June 29, 2021 12:00 - 26 minutes - 60.2 MB

After a violent crackdown on protestors, Donald Trump posed for a photo-op with a bible in front of a church. A year later, a federal judge has tossed most of the civil complaints against the former president. But the image remains telling. Today we replay our interview with religion scholar Matthew Hedstrom on the ideology of Christian nationalism and its harder-core variety, dominionism. Hedstrom says a muscular resistance to pluralism — not ideas about piety — lies at the core of this beli...

S2 E18 – WTF, GOP

June 15, 2021 12:00 - 92.7 MB

When we launched this podcast a year ago, we made it clear we weren’t going to produce a show about “Democrats” in danger. But in the United States, one political party epitomizes the antidemocratic moment: Republicans remain devoted to a corrupt leader, intent on suppressing the vote and hostile to racial justice. This week, we wrap up Season Two with a hard look at the GOP — with help from a historian, a political scientist and a former Republican congresswoman who has dared to call out Pre...

S2 E18. WTF, GOP

June 15, 2021 12:00 - 92.7 MB

When we launched this podcast a year ago, we made it clear we weren’t going to produce a show about “Democrats” in danger. But in the United States, one political party epitomizes the antidemocratic moment: Republicans remain devoted to a corrupt leader, intent on suppressing the vote and hostile to racial justice. This week, we wrap up Season Two with a hard look at the GOP — with help from a historian, a political scientist and a former Republican congresswoman who has dared to call out Pre...

S2 E17 – India Burning

June 08, 2021 12:00 - 46 minutes - 106 MB

Narendra Modi became India’s prime minister in 2014, promising economic growth and a respite from the corrupt and calcified Congress Party. But Modi’s Hindu nationalism has hardened along with his will to govern. He has stifled dissent, taken over almost every government institution and adopted policies that are hostile to Muslims. Now India is reeling from a devastating surge in covid infections and deaths. Where did Modi come from? And can he be stopped? A historian and two journalists offe...

S2 E17. India Burning

June 08, 2021 12:00 - 46 minutes - 106 MB

Narendra Modi became India’s prime minister in 2014, promising economic growth and a respite from the corrupt and calcified Congress Party. But Modi’s Hindu nationalism has hardened along with his will to govern. He has stifled dissent, taken over almost every government institution and adopted policies that are hostile to Muslims. Now India is reeling from a devastating surge in covid infections and deaths. Where did Modi come from? And can he be stopped? A historian and two journalists offe...

S2 E16. Moscow Duel

June 01, 2021 12:00 - 28 minutes - 64.4 MB

Three pillars hold up autocracy in Russia, journalist Masha Gessen says: media control, sham elections and downright terror. But the opposition movement spearheaded by imprisoned activist Alexei Navalny has struck at the heart of all three. Gessen explains how — and measures the power of democratic aspirations in a country struggling against corruption with hope, against the past with visions of a happier future.

S2 E16 – Moscow Duel

June 01, 2021 12:00 - 28 minutes - 64.4 MB

Three pillars hold up autocracy in Russia, journalist Masha Gessen says: media control, sham elections and downright terror. But the opposition movement spearheaded by imprisoned activist Alexei Navalny has struck at the heart of all three. Gessen explains how — and measures the power of democratic aspirations in a country struggling against corruption with hope, against the past with visions of a happier future.

S2 E15 – Between Progress and Putin

May 25, 2021 12:00 - 35 minutes - 81 MB

Ukrainians took to the streets twice in 10 years to defend their fledgling democracy. The first time, it seemed an election might be stolen. Then the government broke a pledge to bring the country closer to the European Union — and the people pushed back. Now Ukraine is mired in conflicts with separatists in the east and with Russia over its hold on Crimea. But even as Putin wages war on this former Soviet republic, the long-term outlook for Ukraine is strong. Harvard historian Serhii Plokhii...

S2 E15. Between Progress and Putin

May 25, 2021 12:00 - 35 minutes - 81 MB

Ukrainians took to the streets twice in 10 years to defend their fledgling democracy. The first time, it seemed an election might be stolen. Then the government broke a pledge to bring the country closer to the European Union — and the people pushed back. Now Ukraine is mired in conflicts with separatists in the east and with Russia over its hold on Crimea. But even as Putin wages war on this former Soviet republic, the long-term outlook for Ukraine is strong. Harvard historian Serhii Plokhii...

S2 E14 – Der Noisy Fringe

May 18, 2021 12:00 - 44 minutes - 101 MB

In Germany, like much of Europe, the antidemocratic forces of the far right have been gaining ground, even as chancellor Angela Merkel has kept extremism at bay in her own coalition, with often shrewd and at times brave politics. As she prepares to retire, can she cement a legacy of benevolent pragmatism and keep her country’s noisy fringe from coopting the opposition? Two experts on German politics help us explore Merkel’s legacy and what it means for the rest of the European Union — and the...

S2 E14. Der Noisy Fringe

May 18, 2021 12:00 - 44 minutes - 101 MB

In Germany, like much of Europe, the antidemocratic forces of the far right have been gaining ground, even as chancellor Angela Merkel has kept extremism at bay in her own coalition, with often shrewd and at times brave politics. As she prepares to retire, can she cement a legacy of benevolent pragmatism and keep her country’s noisy fringe from coopting the opposition? Two experts on German politics help us explore Merkel’s legacy and what it means for the rest of the European Union — and the...

S2 E13 – Bittersweet Dreams

May 11, 2021 12:00 - 48 minutes - 111 MB

Citizenship determines who is in and who is out, who has a voice in a democracy and who doesn’t. But for the one million young people who have grown up in the United States undocumented, feeling like they really belong here remains a dream deferred. This time, we hear from two of them living in limbo. Plus, legal scholar Amanda Frost unearths the unsettling stories of Americans who have had their citizenship taken away — because of their politics, their race, even because of whom they choose ...

S2 E13. Bittersweet Dreams

May 11, 2021 12:00 - 48 minutes - 111 MB

Citizenship determines who is in and who is out, who has a voice in a democracy and who doesn’t. But for the one million young people who have grown up in the United States undocumented, feeling like they really belong here remains a dream deferred. This time, we hear from two of them living in limbo. Plus, legal scholar Amanda Frost unearths the unsettling stories of Americans who have had their citizenship taken away — because of their politics, their race, even because of whom they choose ...

The Prison Pipeline [Rebroadcast]

May 04, 2021 12:00 - 27 minutes - 63.5 MB

As states prepare to redraw their congressional districts, some will benefit from the prison-industrial complex: There are more people behind bars in America than in any country, and inmates are disproportionately Black and Latino. This week we’re replaying an interview about mass incarceration with Yale historian Elizabeth Hinton, who says minority communities suffered disproportionately from successive “wars” meant to save them — from poverty, from crime, from drugs — but which criminalized...

S2 E12 – Nuestra América

April 27, 2021 12:00 - 33 minutes - 76.7 MB

Mexico’s murder rate has almost tripled in 15 years, even as the country has enjoyed a robust multiparty electoral system, a growing economy and a vibrant civil society. This mixed fate is common across Latin American democracies, as they struggle to overcome a past marred by U.S. imperialism, and face the problems of the present: violence, inequality and agonizing migrations. But, says sociologist Gema Kloppe-Santamaría, there is common ground on which the Americas, together, can build a bet...

S2 E12. Nuestra América

April 27, 2021 12:00 - 33 minutes - 76.7 MB

Mexico’s murder rate has almost tripled in 15 years, even as the country has enjoyed a robust multiparty electoral system, a growing economy and a vibrant civil society. This mixed fate is common across Latin American democracies, as they struggle to overcome a past marred by U.S. imperialism, and face the problems of the present: violence, inequality and agonizing migrations. But, says sociologist Gema Kloppe-Santamaría, there is common ground on which the Americas, together, can build a bet...

S2 E11. Climate Shame

April 20, 2021 12:00 - 33 minutes - 75.7 MB

Most top carbon-emitting nations, like the United States, are wealthy democracies. Yet climate change is hurting poor countries first and destabilizing their societies — with rising seas, more frequent hurricanes and harsh droughts, leading to mass migration. Science journalist Kendra Pierre-Louis says buying an electric car won’t help much. What we need, she tells Will and Siva, is far more than good individual choices: a wholesale structural shift, international reparations and a healthy do...

S2 E11 – Climate Shame

April 20, 2021 12:00 - 33 minutes - 75.7 MB

Most top carbon-emitting nations, like the United States, are wealthy democracies. Yet climate change is hurting poor countries first and destabilizing their societies — with rising seas, more frequent hurricanes and harsh droughts, leading to mass migration. Science journalist Kendra Pierre-Louis says buying an electric car won’t help much. What we need, she tells Will and Siva, is far more than good individual choices: a wholesale structural shift, international reparations and a healthy do...

S2 E10 – Tangled-Up Trash

April 13, 2021 12:00 - 77.3 MB

The toxic waste that seeps into rivers taints everything downstream, spoiling lakes and oceans, killing flora and fauna, altering the air we breathe and raining back down. Information works the same way, media scholar Whitney Phillips says. Fueled by human passions, falsehoods permeate the mainstream media, undermine trust and hurt vulnerable people most. To untangle this trash, she argues, we need to think ecologically, too: looking not only to coders but faith leaders, teachers, even health...

S2 E10 – Digital Wasteland

April 13, 2021 12:00 - 77.3 MB

The toxic waste that seeps into rivers taints everything downstream, spoiling lakes and oceans, killing flora and fauna, altering the air we breathe and raining back down. Information works the same way, media scholar Whitney Phillips says. Fueled by human passions, falsehoods permeate the mainstream media, undermine trust and hurt vulnerable people most. To untangle this trash, she argues, we need to think ecologically, too: looking not only to coders but faith leaders, teachers, even health...

S2 E10. Digital Wasteland

April 13, 2021 12:00 - 77.3 MB

The toxic waste that seeps into rivers taints everything downstream, spoiling lakes and oceans, killing flora and fauna, altering the air we breathe and raining back down. Information works the same way, media scholar Whitney Phillips says. Fueled by human passions, falsehoods permeate the mainstream media, undermine trust and hurt vulnerable people most. To untangle this trash, she argues, we need to think ecologically, too: looking not only to coders but faith leaders, teachers, even health...

S2 E9. The Wild Web

April 06, 2021 12:00 - 70.8 MB

When law professor Danielle Citron began exploring the scourge of online harassment, especially of women, what she found was disturbing. Virtually undeterred, stalkers would share intimate details about their targets, post nude photos without consent and threaten rape. This kind of behavior is enabled by the same Wild West approach to cyberspace regulation that permits so much of our personal data to be harvested and abused. What’s at stake, Citron says, is not just our privacy online, but ou...

S2 E9 – The Wild Web

April 06, 2021 12:00 - 70.8 MB

When law professor Danielle Citron began exploring the scourge of online harassment, especially of women, what she found was disturbing. Virtually undeterred, stalkers would share intimate details about their targets, post nude photos without consent and threaten rape. This kind of behavior is enabled by the same Wild West approach to cyberspace regulation that permits so much of our personal data to be harvested and abused. What’s at stake, Citron says, is not just our privacy online, but ou...

S2 E8. People Power

March 30, 2021 12:00 - 38 minutes - 87.4 MB

Srdja Popovic was 16 and playing guitar in a goth-rock band when Serbian strongman Slobodan Milosevic came to power. A decade later — after a series of brutal civil wars — Popovic and a few friends launched a resistance movement that grew to tens of thousands and helped topple Milosevic’s reign of terror. The secret of their success? Nonviolence, Popovic says. Today he leads an organization that supports pro-democracy activists all over the world. Hear him share his story, his principles and ...

S2 E8 – People Power

March 30, 2021 12:00 - 38 minutes - 87.4 MB

Srdja Popovic was 16 and playing guitar in a goth-rock band when Serbian strongman Slobodan Milosevic came to power. A decade later — after a series of brutal civil wars — Popovic and a few friends launched a resistance movement that grew to tens of thousands and helped topple Milosevic’s reign of terror. The secret of their success? Nonviolence, Popovic says. Today he leads an organization that supports pro-democracy activists all over the world. Hear him share his story, his principles and ...

Xenophobia [Rebroadcast]

March 23, 2021 12:00 - 37 minutes - 84.8 MB

Like many of you, we were shocked and horrified by the killings at Atlanta-area spas last week — reminding us once again that nativist ideology in America is nothing new. Historian Erika Lee, who testified on hate crimes again Asian Americans before Congress in the wake of the massacre, walked Will and Siva through this sordid past on a show we produced in Season One. This week, we’re interrupting our regular schedule to bring you that episode.

S2 E7. Growing Pains

March 16, 2021 12:00 - 35 minutes - 82.1 MB

Given a real choice, people around the world would take a shorter work week over bigger salaries, consume less to live more and seek mutual flourishing rather than plunder their natural resources. The problem is, says anthropologist Jason Hickel, the idea of a “degrowth” economy has never been on the ballot. Instead, the core tenet of capitalism — insatiable expansion — is holding humanity, and democratic ideals, hostage. The stakes can’t be higher, he argues: if we don’t fix that, we won’t s...

S2 E7 – Growing Pains

March 16, 2021 12:00 - 35 minutes - 82.1 MB

Given a real choice, people around the world would take a shorter work week over bigger salaries, consume less to live more and seek mutual flourishing rather than plunder their natural resources. The problem is, says anthropologist Jason Hickel, the idea of a “degrowth” economy has never been on the ballot. Instead, the core tenet of capitalism — insatiable expansion — is holding humanity, and democratic ideals, hostage. The stakes can’t be higher, he argues: if we don’t fix that, we won’t s...

S2 E6 – Census Division

March 09, 2021 13:00 - 32 minutes - 73.4 MB

The U.S. Constitution is clear: every person counts. But in a country with a sordid history of voter suppression, tinkering with the decennial census has become the latest trick for undermining majority rule. And the usually mundane rite of enumeration was politicized like never before when President Trump tried to exclude undocumented immigrants from the census. Dale Ho, director of the ACLU’s Voting Rights Project, explains why that’s detrimental to the proper functioning of government. And...

S2 E6. Census Division

March 09, 2021 13:00 - 32 minutes - 73.4 MB

The U.S. Constitution is clear: every person counts. But in a country with a sordid history of voter suppression, tinkering with the decennial census has become the latest trick for undermining majority rule. And the usually mundane rite of enumeration was politicized like never before when President Trump tried to exclude undocumented immigrants from the census. Dale Ho, director of the ACLU’s Voting Rights Project, explains why that’s detrimental to the proper functioning of government. And...

S2 E5. Hard Lessons

March 02, 2021 13:00 - 36 minutes - 83.6 MB

Over the last 25 years, college tuition has almost doubled. Meanwhile, America’s K-through-12 education system has only become more fractured — with acute disparities in standards and resources at different schools sometimes just miles away from each other. But UVA president Jim Ryan has hope that with creative solutions across the board, learning can be democratized, and democracy itself enriched in the process. Hear what he has to offer Siva and Will — and the tough questions their students...

S2 E5 – Hard Lessons

March 02, 2021 13:00 - 36 minutes - 83.6 MB

Over the last 25 years, college tuition has almost doubled. Meanwhile, America’s K-through-12 education system has only become more fractured — with acute disparities in standards and resources at different schools sometimes just miles away from each other. But UVA president Jim Ryan has hope that with creative solutions across the board, learning can be democratized, and democracy itself enriched in the process. Hear what he has to offer Siva and Will — and the tough questions their students...

S2 E4. Threadbare Country

February 23, 2021 13:00 - 32 minutes - 73.9 MB

American democracy is supposed to come with a warranty: equal opportunity, social mobility, the promise of success with hard work. But the fabled Dream is fraying. In fact, NYT journalist Eduardo Porter says, it was never sold as advertised. From the beginning, the myth cheated people of color and poisoned working-class solidarity. To mend this tattered republic, Porter tells Siva and Will, we need “a new idea of America” — made from policies that address wealth inequality across the social s...

S2 E4 – Threadbare Country

February 23, 2021 13:00 - 32 minutes - 73.9 MB

American democracy is supposed to come with a warranty: equal opportunity, social mobility, the promise of success with hard work. But the fabled Dream is fraying. In fact, NYT journalist Eduardo Porter says, it was never sold as advertised. From the beginning, the myth cheated people of color and poisoned working-class solidarity. To mend this tattered republic, Porter tells Siva and Will, we need “a new idea of America” — made from policies that address wealth inequality across the social s...

S2 E3 – The Bane of Brazil

February 16, 2021 13:00 - 31 minutes - 71.6 MB

Brazil is cursed. Or so it would seem, says media studies scholar David Nemer. Every three decades over the last 100 years, an authoritarian government rises to power. And the results are disastrous. Under Jair Bolsonaro, the “curse of the thirty years” continues, with covid deaths mounting and Brazilian institutions buckling. Find out what’s going on and what hope remains for democracy in South America’s largest country.

S2 E3. The Bane of Brazil

February 16, 2021 13:00 - 31 minutes - 71.6 MB

Brazil is cursed. Or so it would seem, says media studies scholar David Nemer. Every three decades over the last 100 years, an authoritarian government rises to power. And the results are disastrous. Under Jair Bolsonaro, the “curse of the thirty years” continues, with covid deaths mounting and Brazilian institutions buckling. Find out what’s going on and what hope remains for democracy in South America’s largest country.

S2 E2 – Down the Rabbit Hole

February 09, 2021 13:00 - 28 minutes - 65.1 MB

In a largely unregulated social media ecosystem, a curious mom looking for info about vaccine mandates in public schools can end up feasting on the internet’s most insidious — and outlandish — conspiracy theories. Stanford researcher Renée DiResta joins Will and Siva to grapple with the tangled web of QAnon, antivaxxers and more. If the Jan. 6 riot in Washington is any indication, what starts in chatrooms doesn’t stay in chatrooms. And the real-world consequences of the virtual Wild West can ...

S2 E2. Down the Rabbit Hole

February 09, 2021 13:00 - 28 minutes - 65.1 MB

In a largely unregulated social media ecosystem, a curious mom looking for info about vaccine mandates in public schools can end up feasting on the internet’s most insidious — and outlandish — conspiracy theories. Stanford researcher Renée DiResta joins Will and Siva to grapple with the tangled web of QAnon, antivaxxers and more. If the Jan. 6 riot in Washington is any indication, what starts in chatrooms doesn’t stay in chatrooms. And the real-world consequences of the virtual Wild West can ...

S2 E1 – Cults of Personality

February 02, 2021 13:00 - 26 minutes - 60 MB

Remember Silvio Berlusconi? Sex scandals, shady deals and a cult-like following marked the former Italian prime minister’s lasting grip on power. It’s a playbook with a long history and a troubling appeal nowadays, says NYU historian Ruth Ben-Ghiat. On our first episode back from the winter break, she walks Will and Siva through the characteristics of political strongmen — and the lessons they offer for American democracy in the post-Trump era.

S2 E1. Cults of Personality

February 02, 2021 13:00 - 26 minutes - 60 MB

Remember Silvio Berlusconi? Sex scandals, shady deals and a cult-like following marked the former Italian prime minister’s lasting grip on power. It’s a playbook with a long history and a troubling appeal nowadays, says NYU historian Ruth Ben-Ghiat. On our first episode back from the winter break, she walks Will and Siva through the characteristics of political strongmen — and the lessons they offer for American democracy in the post-Trump era.

Preview: Season Two

January 29, 2021 13:00 - 5 minutes - 12.4 MB

After such a wacky month in America, is there any question democracy is still in danger? Yeah, we didn’t think so either. Will and Siva are back with Season Two and a whole new lineup of guests. Listen to our trailer for a taste of what’s in store. We’ll bring you stories from the trenches of democracy around the world, interviews on climate change and economic inequality, a primer on QAnon... and much more. So keep that thumb on our feed: our first show drops in just a few days.

Broken Promises [Rebroadcast]

January 26, 2021 13:00 - 30 minutes - 68.8 MB

President Biden has said he wants to move quickly to address racial injustice in America. But as historian Leah Wright Rigueur told us last summer, that remains a tall mountain to climb. She calls the U.S. a “failed state” that has always fallen short of its promise of equality. But she also saw hope in the Black Lives Matter protests of 2020 — and the possibility of transformation. Listen to this repost and look for new shows next week.