Latest Permanentcapital Podcast Episodes
Preston Holland - Transforming Flying Magazine - Ep.109
Think Like an Owner - April 05, 2022 10:00 - 54 minutes ★★★★★ - 98 ratingsMy guest on this episode is Preston Holland. Preston is the COO of FLYING Magazine, which was purchased in July 2021 by Craig Fuller and has been going through a broad transformation to a modern media business. Preston and I became friends over our mutual love of aviation and media, and our conve...
David Dodson - Searching, Investing, Teaching - Ep.108
Think Like an Owner - March 29, 2022 10:00 - 1 hour ★★★★★ - 98 ratingsMy guest on this episode is David Dodson. David started the second ever search fund after being a Stanford case writer, purchasing Smith Alarm Systems in 1989. Over his career, David has been the CEO or executive chairman of five companies, has and continues to invest in search funds today throug...
Glenn Gonzales - How to Fly Private as a Business Owner - Ep.107
Think Like an Owner - March 22, 2022 10:00 - 59 minutes ★★★★★ - 98 ratingsMy guest on this episode is Glenn Gonzales. Glenn is the founder and CEO of Jet It, a fractional share private jet business with a unique model serving customers across the country and in Europe. Prior to founding Jet It, Glenn was an F-15 pilot in the Air Force and sold private jets on behalf of...
Trilogy Search Series Ep.1: Nikita Sunilkumar & Kush Das - Ep.106
Think Like an Owner - March 15, 2022 10:00 - 1 hour ★★★★★ - 98 ratingsWelcome to the first episode in our trilogy search partner series with great entrepreneurs and investors from the traditional search world. Today, I am joined by Nikita Sunilkumar and Kush Das who both search and acquired home healthcare businesses through the traditional search process. Kush acq...
Michael Curry & Keith Burns - Earn The Right to Lead - Ep.105
Think Like an Owner - March 08, 2022 11:00 - 1 hour ★★★★★ - 98 ratingsMy guests on this episode are Michael Curry and Keith Burns who together have acquired 11 diagnostic radiation and other physics services businesses since 2014 through their platform Apex Physics Partners. This episode is loaded with wisdom and insights. I had a number of alternative titles I co...
Lori Harrington & Bruce Vanderzyde - Searcher and Seller Perspectives - Ep.104
Think Like an Owner - March 01, 2022 11:00 - 54 minutes ★★★★★ - 98 ratingsMy guests on this episode are Lori Harrington and Bruce Vanderzyde. Lori launched a search in October 2020 and recently acquired Bruce's company Anterra Tech at the end of 2021, which offers business intelligence software for the construction and real estate industries. This episode is a great d...
Live From SMBash: Justin Burris and Tim Ludwig on Majority Search - Ep.103
Think Like an Owner - February 22, 2022 11:00 - 40 minutes ★★★★★ - 98 ratingsMy guests on this episode are Justin Burris and Tim Ludwig who together have co-founded a new search investment fund named Majority Search. Majority Search aims to be the preferred buyer of small companies while giving searchers the chance to own the majority of the companies they operate. This i...
Cross-Post: Owned and Operated with Alex Bridgeman
Think Like an Owner - February 15, 2022 11:00 - 1 hour ★★★★★ - 98 ratingsThis week is a bonus episode. We are cross posting a guest appearance I had on John Wilson's Owned and Operated podcast. I'm a big fan of John and enjoy his podcast immensely, and I wanted to share it with you all. In this episode, I share more about my philosophy behind the Operator's Handbook a...
Greg Geronemus - Traditional Search Misconceptions - Ep.102
Think Like an Owner - February 08, 2022 11:00 - 46 minutes ★★★★★ - 98 ratingsMy guest on this episode is Greg Geronemus, co-founder and managing partner of Footbridge Partners, a traditional search investment firm. This is my second episode with Greg, the first being episode 17 back in April 2020, where Greg shared his experience acquiring and operating his search company...
Mehtab Bhogal - How to Fix a Failing Ecommerce Business - Ep.101
Think Like an Owner - February 01, 2022 11:00 - 49 minutes ★★★★★ - 98 ratingsMy guest on this episode is Mehtab Bhogal, co-founder of Karta Ventures. Karta is a Canadian based e-commerce acquirer investing primarily in e-commerce turnarounds, a corner of the world I didn't even know existed but that is incredibly fascinating. This episode is one of my recent favorites be...
Sam Shepler - Video Testimonials for Growing Companies - Ep.100
Think Like an Owner - January 25, 2022 11:00 - 36 minutes ★★★★★ - 98 ratingsMy guest on this episode is Sam Shepler. Sam is the founder of Testimonial Hero, a company he bootstrapped that helps companies create more effective video customer testimonials. Sam and I spend much of the episode talking about how to create great testimonials for your company and what the drivi...
Robert Graham – Running Two Businesses, in the Healthcare Space and in the Search Fund Space - Ep.99
Think Like an Owner - January 18, 2022 11:00 - 53 minutes ★★★★★ - 98 ratingsMy guest on this episode is Robert Graham. Robert worked in management roles at Eaton prior to attending Harvard Business School, after which he worked in investment banking and private equity. Eventually, he decided to search for a business after seeing his HBS classmates do it, and today Robert...
Eric Friend – A Conversation About the 100+ Year Old Friend Family Business of Print – Ep.98
Think Like an Owner - January 11, 2022 11:00 - 1 hour ★★★★★ - 98 ratingsMy guest on this episode is Eric Friend. I reached out to Eric after seeing him talking on Twitter about his family’s printing business Friend Paper, which was founded in 1908 in Zion, Illinois, by Eric's great grandfather. As a print publisher through our quarterly publication called the Operato...
John Puskar – A Journey of Growing and Selling a Professional Services Company - Ep.97
Think Like an Owner - January 04, 2022 11:00 - 1 hour ★★★★★ - 98 ratingsJohn founded a professional services company in 1984 focused on energy conservation, inspections, and design work for large companies. He eventually grew the company to 43 employees and $13 million in sales and sold to Eclipse Combustion for $10 million in 2011. Since selling the business, he has...
Jordan Evans – Acquiring and Growing a Family Business in the Industry of Language Services - Ep.96
Think Like an Owner - December 28, 2021 11:00 - 57 minutes ★★★★★ - 98 ratingsMy guest on this episode is Jordan Evans. Jordan grew up in an entrepreneurial family in California. His parents started a language translation and interpreting business when he was two years old, and it grew over the course of his childhood. It grew enough that he actually acquired it from his p...
Chris Williams - Running a Search and Acquiring and Operating a Small Business - Ep.95
Think Like an Owner - December 21, 2021 11:00 - 57 minutes ★★★★★ - 98 ratingsMy guest on this episode is Chris Williams. I was introduced to Chris via Justin Vogt about a year ago. And since then, Chris and I have talked monthly about his search, thoughts on running a small company, the podcast, and all things work and life. I've really enjoyed getting to know him, and I'...
Austin Hall & Palmer Higgins - Lessons Learned Operating in Lawn Care - Ep.94
Think Like an Owner - December 14, 2021 12:02 - 54 minutes ★★★★★ - 98 ratingsMy guests in this episode are Austin Hall and Palmer Higgins. A few months ago, I ran a survey with Think Like An Owner listeners to get feedback on the direction of the podcast. And one of the questions I asked was on new episode formats. One of those formats that received great feedback was fac...
Ryan DeCaire - What Rapid Growth in Small Business Looks Like - Ep.93
Think Like an Owner - December 06, 2021 17:30 - 55 minutes ★★★★★ - 98 ratingsMy guest in this episode is Ryan DeCaire. Ryan joined a private equity firm called Ashbridge Partners in Toronto Canada and became president of one of their portfolio companies, Geroline, in February 2019. Geroline is an industrial safety products company that sells ice cleats to companies in the...
Sandro Mina - From Camera World to Relay Investment: Capturing the Early Days of a Search Fund - Ep.92
Think Like an Owner - November 29, 2021 17:35 - 49 minutes ★★★★★ - 98 ratingsMy guest in this episode is Sandro Mina. Sandro is a co-founding partner of Relay Investments, a search investment fund based in Boston that began in 2015. Prior to Relay, Sandro and his partner, Martin launched their own search fund after graduating from Stanford's MBA program in 1991, acquirin...
Sandro Mina - From Camera World to Relay Investments: Capturing the Early Days of a Search Fund - Ep.92
Think Like an Owner - November 29, 2021 17:35 - 49 minutes ★★★★★ - 98 ratingsMy guest in this episode is Sandro Mina. Sandro is a co-founding partner of Relay Investments, a search investment fund based in Boston. Prior to Relay, Sandro and his partner, Martin launched their own search fund after graduating from Stanford's MBA program in 1991, acquiring and eventually exi...
Timi Okah - Kingsway's First Acquisition in CEO Accelerator Program - EP.91
Think Like an Owner - November 23, 2021 07:00 - 53 minutes ★★★★★ - 98 ratingsMy guest in this episode is Timi Okah. Timi is the first CEO in Kingsway Financial CEO Accelerator Program, having acquired an HR and accounting business called the Ravix group in October this year of 2021. There's several interesting wrinkles within this search model. One of the most interesting...
Collin Hathaway - What You Learn Acquiring 12 Home Service Companies - Ep.90
Think Like an Owner - November 16, 2021 07:00 - 56 minutes ★★★★★ - 98 ratingsMy guest in this episode is Collin Hathaway. You might remember Collin from Episode 32 back in October 2020, which quickly became and has remained the most popular episode of Think Like An Owner. Collin joins me again to more deeply discuss lessons learned through his career of buying and buildin...
Jason Jackson - Rebuilding a Profitable Dental Care Business - Ep.89
Think Like an Owner - November 09, 2021 07:00 - 54 minutes ★★★★★ - 98 ratingsMy guest on this episode is Jason Jackson. Jason searched and acquired Unified Dental Care, a collection of dental practices in the Detroit Metro in April 2017. Jason is quick to share all the mistakes he made through his search and his time as CEO. But you can tell he's an incredibly resilient p...
Mike Botkin - Central Florida Landscape M&A Playbook - Ep.88
Think Like an Owner - November 02, 2021 07:00 - 49 minutes ★★★★★ - 98 ratingsMy guest in this episode is Mike Botkin. You might remember Mike from episode 48 where he described acquiring B&B landscaping in Orlando, Florida with his investor equity raised entirely from Twitter. Well, he's acquired a bigger one and has raised a holding company called Benchmark Group to buy ...
Matt Moldenhauer- Rolling Out Technology and Systems in the Timber Industry - Ep.87
Think Like an Owner - October 26, 2021 07:00 - 1 hour ★★★★★ - 98 ratingsMy guest in this episode is Matt Moldenhauer. Matt is the president of Bellwether Forest Products, an integrated wood supply company owned by a family office called Elmore Companies, where Matt is also a partner. Matt became president after Bellwether was acquired in 2016 and has grown the busine...
Heather Endresen - SBA: Government’s Strategic Loan Program for Entrepreneurs - Ep.86
Think Like an Owner - October 19, 2021 07:00 - 56 minutes ★★★★★ - 98 ratingsMy guest in this episode is Heather Endresen, co-director of Search Fund Lending at Live Oak Bank. Her name probably sounds familiar as Live Oak is a sponsor of this podcast. Given the strong interest from our audience, I decided to bring Heather on the show to share the ins and outs of the SBA p...
[Re-Run] Collin Hathaway – Investing and Operating in Home Services – Ep. 85
Think Like an Owner - October 12, 2021 07:00 - 1 hour ★★★★★ - 98 ratingsMy guest today is Collin Hathaway. Collin runs a small micro private equity fund in Seattle, WA called Skylight Capital and has developed a strong core competence in plumbing, HVAC, roofing, and other home services businesses. He also has one of the most interesting stories I’ve heard of getting ...
Paul Yancich & Daniel Eisen - Taking Inspiration From Constellation and Leveraging a Long Time Horizon - Ep.84
Think Like an Owner - October 05, 2021 07:00 - 56 minutes ★★★★★ - 98 ratingsMy guests in this episode are Paul Yancich and Daniel Eisen, who founded Arcadea Group, a permanent capital holding company that has raised $320 million to invest over ultra-long periods of time in typically independent, founder-controlled software companies with strong growth in duration potenti...
Badge Stone - Earning His Badge and Making His Mark in Search Fund Investments - Ep.83
Think Like an Owner - September 28, 2021 07:00 - 1 hour ★★★★★ - 98 ratingsMy guest on this episode is Badge Stone. Badge started his search journey with a Stone Pump & Trench that was on the verge of bankruptcy when he acquired it. After turning it around, he acquired another company called Perimeter Security. He sold both and made investing in searchers his full-time ...
Andrew Sohn & Michael Novielli - Running an Education Business in China - Ep. 82
Think Like an Owner - September 21, 2021 07:00 - 54 minutes ★★★★★ - 98 ratingsMy guests on this episode are Andrew Soon and Michael Novielli, co-founders of Due West Education. Due West counsels and helps Chinese students apply to top American universities and study abroad programs. I visited China in college on a school trip and it was one of the most incredible experienc...
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