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The TFSC Report and the Webster Case - Pt 2

Double Loop Podcast - April 22, 2024 00:00 - 1 hour ★★★★★ - 69 ratings
Today Eric and Glenn finish Part 2 on the 2023 Report of the Texas Forensic Science Commission dealing with a latent print case. They continue to discuss the TFSC report that followed an investigation into a complaint filed against the latent print contractor(s) in the Joseph Webster case. In pa...

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Episode 269 - The TFSC Report and the Webster Case - Pt 1

Double Loop Podcast - April 08, 2024 00:00 - 59 minutes ★★★★★ - 69 ratings
Today Eric and Glenn start Part 1 of a two-parter on the 2023 Report of the Texas Forensic Science Commission dealing with a latent print case. First the guys do some catching up and play Where in the Whorld. They also discuss an email from Simon Cole and inquire on the impact of the recent AI ...

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Episode 268 - Steve Johnson Interview

Double Loop Podcast - March 21, 2024 05:35 - 49 minutes ★★★★★ - 69 ratings
Eric Ray and Glenn Langenburg sit down for a chat with Steve Johnson about face examiners, face comparisons, and the IAI. Steve's background includes latent prints, forensic art, face comparison, crime scene, and many positions with the IAI. He shares the future of the face discipline and how the...

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Episode 267- Chloe George Interview - Research on Phalange Patterns

Double Loop Podcast - March 09, 2024 00:00 - 52 minutes ★★★★★ - 69 ratings
Eric and Glenn host another guest from Australia in today’s episode. After another round of Where in the Whorld and a few stories from Eric’s childhood, the guys welcome Chloe George from New South Wales Police Force, Australia. Glenn saw Chloe present at IAFS, where her presentation on phalang...

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Episode 266 - Andy Chapman Interview - Aussie Black Box Study

Double Loop Podcast - February 17, 2024 00:00 - 56 minutes ★★★★★ - 69 ratings
In this post-New Year’s Eve 2023-2024 episode, the guys start by discussing their New Year’s Eve and play another round of Where in the Whorld. They then introduce their guest from the New South Wales Police Force, Andrew Chapman. Glenn had the benefit of seeing Andy’s presentation at IAFS in S...

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Episode 265 - Dr. Bethany Growns Interview

Double Loop Podcast - February 02, 2024 00:00 - 55 minutes ★★★★★ - 69 ratings
Glenn and Eric start by talking about their Christmas plans, followed by a game of “Where in the Whorld”. They then welcome their guest, Dr. Bethany Growns, a lecturer and psychologist at the University of Canterbury, in New Zealand. Bethany joins the show to discuss her research on matchers, s...

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Episode 264 - Fingerprints Proven by AI to Not Be Unique!

Double Loop Podcast - January 20, 2024 00:00 - 1 hour ★★★★★ - 69 ratings
Eric and Glenn respond to the recent allegations that a computer science undergraduate at Columbia University, using Artificial Intelligence, has “proven that fingerprints aren’t unique” or at least…that’s how the media is mischaracterizing a new published paper by Guo, et al. The guys dissect t...

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Episode 263 - Caitlin Rough Interview

Double Loop Podcast - January 12, 2024 00:00 - 47 minutes ★★★★★ - 69 ratings
In this episode, Eric and Glenn interview Caitlin Rough, a Masters student at the University of Western Sydney. Glenn saw Caitlin present at the IAFS conference back in November 2023. She comes onto the podcast to discuss her research project involving the interactions of latent prints (sebaceo...

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Episode 262 - Teneil Hannah Interview

Double Loop Podcast - December 29, 2023 00:00 - 56 minutes ★★★★★ - 69 ratings
Eric and Glenn discuss their holiday parties and preparations, play another round of "Where in the Whorld?", and then interview a guest all the way from Sydney, Australia. Teneil Hannah, a PhD candidate at the University of Technology Sydney (UTS), joins the podcast to talk about some of her rec...

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Episode 261 - Fall Travel Catchup

Double Loop Podcast - December 19, 2023 05:39 - 58 minutes ★★★★★ - 69 ratings
Glenn Langenburg and Eric Ray spent the past few months traveling to conferences far and wide. This episode they catch up with each other on recent travels, stories from the road, and some of the presentations that they saw over the past few months. It's a laid-back episode, so join us for as we ...

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Episode 260 - Tales from the Courtroom

Double Loop Podcast - November 25, 2023 00:00 - 1 hour ★★★★★ - 69 ratings
Eric and Glenn return with a super-sized episode where they trade courtroom stories. Glenn had two cases in 2023 where the judges and decisions were rather surprising. From being hurried, harried, and harassed, there were some oddball moments for Glenn. Eric similarly shared a few unusual cour...

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Episode 259 - The 2023 IAI Conference

Double Loop Podcast - September 22, 2023 00:00 - 1 hour ★★★★★ - 69 ratings
Eric and Glenn share their adventures at the 2023 International Association for Identification conference held in August in National Harbor, MD in the Washington D.C. area. They discuss various lectures and workshops they attended. They also discuss Becca running the Double Loop Podcast “merch”...

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Episode 258 - Gap Science Interview

Double Loop Podcast - September 15, 2023 07:50 - 32 minutes ★★★★★ - 69 ratings
Eric Ray and Glenn Langenburg are at the 2023 IAI conference in National Harbor, MD with Erin West and Ashley Church of Gap Science. They've developed a series of classes and an entire virtual conference dedicated to training for forensic supervisors and management. How many people should be repo...

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Episode 257 - Which Forensic Discipline Is The Most Reliable?

Double Loop Podcast - August 13, 2023 00:00 - 1 hour ★★★★★ - 69 ratings
To start the episode, Glenn tells Eric a story relating to Edmond Locard and Galdino Ramos, a doctor with an interesting connection to the history of fingerprints. Later in the episode the guys take on a listener question “What forensic discipline is the most reliable?” In order to address the ...

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Episode 256 - Tom Busey - CSDIAI

Double Loop Podcast - July 20, 2023 07:39 - 1 hour ★★★★★ - 69 ratings
Glenn Langenburg and Eric Ray bring the podcast to the California State Division of the IAI. Tom Busey joins the panel, and they discuss one of Tom's recent papers on an alternate method for calculating a fingerprint likelihood ratio. What if you didn't have to make decisions in fingerprint compa...

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Episode 255 - Busey Visual Evidence Paper

Double Loop Podcast - June 12, 2023 18:53 - 51 minutes ★★★★★ - 69 ratings
Eric Ray and Glenn Langenburg discuss the recent article from Tom Busey - Tracking the growth of visual evidence in fingerprint comparison tasks. Examiners were shown features one at a time and asked to reach conclusions after each one. The study measured differences from the order of features re...

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Episode 254 - NIST Latent Accuracy

Double Loop Podcast - April 03, 2023 05:11 - 54 minutes ★★★★★ - 69 ratings
Glenn Langenburg and Eric Ray eventually discuss the results of the recent NIST Evaluation of Latent Friction Ridge Technology. But first there are a couple of detours. Glenn discusses recent testimony regarding questionable nanogram testing for the presence of drugs. Eric talks about the Cousins...

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Episode 253 - Bigger Blacker Boxes

Double Loop Podcast - February 21, 2023 06:39 - 1 hour ★★★★★ - 69 ratings
Eric Ray and Glenn Langenburg tackle three new Black Box / Accuracy studies from Austin Hicklin, et al and Noblis. Results from research into the accuracy of forensic handwriting comparison, footwear comparison, and bloodstain pattern comparison have been recently published. The guys break down t...

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Episode 252 - Alan McNamara Interview

Double Loop Podcast - February 08, 2023 08:34 - 1 hour ★★★★★ - 69 ratings
Glenn Langenburg and Eric Ray are joined by Alan McNamara to continue discussing the case that sent him to jail. Alan shares his story from the day the police first knocked on his door through the trials and appellate hearings. His first-hand account of this miscarriage of justice is an eye-opene...

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Episode 251 - Alan McNamara Case - Part 2

Double Loop Podcast - January 14, 2023 22:37 - 1 hour ★★★★★ - 69 ratings
Eric Ray and Glenn Langenburg continue their discussion of the Alan McNamara case from the UK. This time they start with the trial and then go through many of the expert witnesses that got involved in this case. Why do all the test lifts from the jewelry box have a wood grain in the background, b...

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Episode 250 - Alan McNamara Case - Part 1

Double Loop Podcast - January 06, 2023 07:49 - 1 hour ★★★★★ - 69 ratings
Glenn Langenburg and Eric Ray discuss the case of Alan McNamara from the UK. In this episode we cover the details of the burglary and how the police focused on Alan McNamara. Despite many issues in the latent print evidence, charges moved forward. The prosecution's entire case was based on a sing...

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Episode 249 - IAI 2022 & Catch Up Episode

Double Loop Podcast - December 07, 2022 00:00 - 52 minutes ★★★★★ - 69 ratings
Eric and Glenn return from a hiatus to have a more relaxed catch-up episode. They share an adventure or two including the great Arizona Treasure Hunt that they participated in. Eric shares some experiences from the User Conference he worked. And finally the guys talk about the Double Loop Podc...

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Episode 248 - Dr. Henry Swofford Interview

Double Loop Podcast - August 11, 2022 00:00 - 1 hour ★★★★★ - 69 ratings
Eric and Glenn interview returning guest, and newly minted PhD, Dr. Henry Swofford on his recent paper, with co-author Prof. Christophe Champod: “Probabilistic reporting and algorithms in forensic science: Stakeholder perspectives within the American criminal justice system” (For Sci Intl Synergy...

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Episode 247 - Brianne Breedlove Interview

Double Loop Podcast - June 29, 2022 17:54 - 1 hour ★★★★★ - 69 ratings
Glenn Langenburg and Eric Ray sit down with Brianne Breedlove from Uncover Forensics to discuss online training and how things have changed in professional forensic training over the past few years. What are the challenges in this new format? What are the benefits that we could never do before? A...

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Episode 246 - Stephan Cowans Case

Double Loop Podcast - May 07, 2022 00:00 - 1 hour ★★★★★ - 69 ratings
Today, Eric and Glenn FINALLY review the Stephan Cowans case, a case of an erroneous identification from Boston where a fingerprint identification was critical evidence used to convict Cowans in 1998. This case is one of the few Innocence Project cases where there was an erroneous fingerprint id...

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Episode 245 - Errors and CVs and Disclosure

Double Loop Podcast - March 31, 2022 07:34 - 1 hour ★★★★★ - 69 ratings
Eric Ray and Glenn Langenburg go round and around on the topic of how to disclose errors to defense. Should your errors be listed in your CV? Should they be disclosed to defense automatically? Only on request? They guys finish the episode reading an email from a listener about their experience wi...

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Episode 244 - Hillary Moses Daluz Interview

Double Loop Podcast - February 05, 2022 00:00 - 56 minutes ★★★★★ - 69 ratings
In this episode, the guys interview fingerprint examiner, multi-book author, and instructor, Hillary Moses Daluz . Hillary discusses her new book "Courtroom Testimony for the Fingerprint Examiner" (CRC Press; 2021). They discuss some of the difficult hot topics that examiners struggle with duri...

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Episode 243 - New Years Grab Bag

Double Loop Podcast - January 31, 2022 08:10 - 1 hour ★★★★★ - 69 ratings
Eric Ray and Glenn Langenburg catch up on a mix bag of topics in the first episode of 2022. Emails on the new conclusion proposal, setups for photography with transmitted light, and the main topic on "qualitative statements". ANAB accreditation requires agencies to include a statistic or a qualit...

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Episode 242 - Review of ASB Documents 2021

Double Loop Podcast - December 27, 2021 00:00 - 1 hour ★★★★★ - 69 ratings
In this episode, the guys talk about Thanksgiving: Eric’s amazing food preparation and Glenn’s travel to Canada to teach. Eric also gives a plug for Kasey Wertheim’s fingerprint book library that is up for auction. In the main segment, they discuss two of the new ASB proposed standards out for ...

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Episode 241 - Blind Proficiency Testing Paper

Double Loop Podcast - December 01, 2021 08:15 - 55 minutes ★★★★★ - 69 ratings
Eric Ray and Glenn Langenburg discuss the recent paper on Blind Proficiency Testing from the Houston Forensic Science Center: "Latent print quality in blind proficiency testing: Using quality metrics to examine laboratory performance" by Brett O. Gardner, Maddisen Neuman, and Sharon Kelley. The p...

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