We tackle a wine style that is adored in certain hip, wine "in-crowd" circles: "orange" wine, which is actually white wine made like a red -- there is long contact with the skins and seeds that give the wine a darker, orange-ish color, and VERY different flavors.

M.C. Ice and I are not big fans, but we do our best to explain the phenomenon of these whites made with skin contact.


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Here are the show notes:  

You know it's time to cover a topic when, in Europe, the supermarket chain Aldi sells a bottle of skin-contact wine for less than $8 US! 

 

WHAT THE HECK IS ORANGE WINE??

First and most importantly, it's not from oranges but from grapes! Made exactly like a red but with longer maceration (the time during winemakig when the grape skins and seeds stay in contact with the juice)  Reds with skin contact are red wines, reds with little contact are rosés; whites with skin contact are “orange”, without contact they are whites Rosés usually undergo less than 12 hours macerating on their skins before the juice is pressed off  Orange wine is the opposite of Rosé Can make skin-contact wine from any grape – length of time with the skins will matter to flavor and the longer the time the more likely the wine is to mask terroir Length of time varies, but maceration is LONG – days, weeks, months Not all are orange so it’s better to call them “skin-contact wines.”

"Skin-Contact Pinot Gris" by jamesfischer licensed under CC BY 2.0

WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF MACERATING WHITE JUICE WITH SKINS?

The wine takes on a darker colored/orange-ish white color, as well as phenols, pigment.  Aromas: Bolder and more intense same grapes vinified as traditional white – like rose v red

Flavors: Nutty, oxidized flavor, very sour with a cider note. Can be bold, nutty, like old apples, sourdough bread

Textures: Dry, tannic, intense (not very pleasurable sometimes)

"2015 Pinot gris" by jamesfischer is licensed under CC BY 2.0

Different styles:

Lightest ones, are acidic, aromatic wines, with fresh apricot, herbs Medium ones – slight oxidation, some acetone notes, old apple Then full-bodied, boldly tannic, and often smoky, nutty, lots of VA, off notes

 

Regions: 

The Republic of Georgia: Qvervi—underground vessels sealed with beeswax or oil soaked clothes. The practice of skin contact whites likely originated here 6,000 or more years ago (the practice still goes on today, although the Greeks and Romans quickly realized the best wines were those from free-run juice/whites not macerated, which is our "traditional" style today). Rkatsiteli is the main grape Listen to the Georgia Podcast!

Flag of Georgia: Wikipedia

Italy: Most prominent in Friuli-Venezia Giulia, often called  ramato “copper-colored” wines from Pinot Grigio but Ribolla Gialla and Tocai Friulano are often used.  Fruili producers who re-started the orange wine movement: Radikon, Gravner Sicilian producers: Cos, I Vigneri 

 

Slovenia: Goriska Brda in Slovenia has a long history of skin contact wine Listen to the Slovenia show!

Flag of Slovenia: Wikipedia

United States Long Island: Channing Daughters, Shinn Estate California: Some Sonoma

 

Others: Australia – Sauvignon Blanc, Greece, South Africa, Croatia, France

 

Food Pairing: Skin Contact wine is versatile with food pairing but it depends on the weight and the treatment of the wine (length of maceration, barrel v. stainless steel, etc). 

Serving temps – 50 – 55˚F/10˚C- 12.75˚ C -- on the warmer side

 

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