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Whitestone Podcast

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Whitestone Podcast delivers on-the-go equipping for Christian knowledge workers from The Whitestone Forum. At The Whitestone Forum, we believe that every Christian – in every vocation – is called to full-time ministry, and we provide distinctive teaching and tools to equip Christians in every one of their organizations.

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Marketing #5 - Jesus and Brand

August 16, 2022 11:00 - 14 minutes - 9.84 MB

Have you been in a marketing meeting at work where the words Jesus and brand are both used in the same sentence? If so, it’s likely that Jesus’s name was used in vain, as a swear word! But the fact is, the most powerful and unique brand in history, around the globe, is the name of Jesus further evidenced by the symbol of the Cross. That’s right, as Paul said: Christ and Him crucified! Join Kevin as we take a fascinating marketing journey through Jesus and brand! // Download this episode's Ap...

About Ada Lovelace

August 09, 2022 11:00 - 13 minutes - 9.09 MB

The story of Ada Lovelace is one of the most unusual in history. She was more than a century ahead of the era of Bill Gates and Steve Jobs! So, just who is Ada Lovelace and why do you know little to nothing about her? And does her life have relevance for the way we live our lives today? Join Kevin as he unfolds the life story and contributions of Ada Lovelace! // Download this episode's Application & Action questions and PDF transcript at whitestone.org.

Finance Focus #17 - An Unwelcome Financial Partner? Income Taxes

August 02, 2022 11:00 - 13 minutes - 9.46 MB

You’re not really in total charge of all your finances, right? You know that, because you are required to pay income taxes each year on the income you earn. Unsurprisingly, the U.S. government is considered by some to be an unwelcome financial partner in their personal finances. But isn’t paying taxes in a country like America actually a privilege? Join Kevin as he offers key background and a particularly Christian take on income taxes! // Download this episode's Application & Action questio...

Supply Chain - The Vertical Must Serve the Horizontal

July 26, 2022 11:00 - 13 minutes - 9.6 MB

So, how precarious is your organization’s position in the supply chain you are designed to succeed in? How about your workplace? How about your church? Are they full of fruit-killing bureaucracy with little to no connection to the supply chain? Are all those layers of management really fruitful? In short, are you following the crucial necessity that “the vertical must serve the horizontal”…? Join Kevin as we explore how the Kingdom is designed to work—and how that can instruct every workplac...

Research-Wisdom-Action #12 - The Art and Practice of Unlearning

July 19, 2022 11:00 - 13 minutes - 9.44 MB

So, what do you need to “unlearn” to live the fullness of Christ in your life? What did the Apostle Paul have to unlearn? What are the key elements to “the art and fruitful practice of unlearning?” Join Kevin as we dive into one of the most neglected mindsets and practical action that can help us to the fullest life in Christ!  // Download this episode's Application & Action questions and PDF transcript at whitestone.org.

Love the Sinner, Hate the Sin in 2020s America

July 12, 2022 11:00 - 13 minutes - 9.48 MB

“Love the sinner, hate the sin.” Boy oh boy, that’s advice much easier given to others than taken from others, especially when the sin is grievous and very hurtful to you or someone close to you. And in the America in the current era, we are seeing just how difficult following that path can be. But there’s nothing new under the sun. Join Kevin as we look at just what the Bible instructs for us to do when it comes to loving the sinner and hating the sin.  // Download this episode's Applicatio...

Abraham #5 - The Melchizedek Event

July 05, 2022 11:00 - 14 minutes - 9.67 MB

The ultimate model for Christians in the Old Testament is Abraham: his faith and his responses to events. And that was definitely true in the case of the Melchizedek Event. How does Abraham’s unique placement and actions in history…after the Fall and the Flood but before Moses and the Law and Israel…help us to more fully understand the opportune fullness of a life of faith in Christ, the King-Priest on the order of Melchizedek? Join Kevin as we unpack this amazing highlight of the Old Testam...

Knowledge Worker: Past, Present, and Future

June 28, 2022 11:00 - 13 minutes - 9.62 MB

The foundation of fruitfulness for the 21st century is being a knowledge worker with a keen mix of past, present, and future. But, wait, just what is a knowledge worker? Join Kevin as we work to corral this core identity that is so necessary for our continuous impact for excellence both in our workplaces and for the Kingdom. // Download this episode's Application & Action questions and PDF transcript at whitestone.org.

Marketing #4 - Capital D Differentiation and Its Knockoffs

June 21, 2022 11:00 - 13 minutes - 9.26 MB

Quick, exactly what is “differentiation” in marketing? For that matter, what’s the greatest differentiation you’ve ever seen? Well, truly legitimate differentiation is exactly what you have put your faith in—faith in Christ and Him crucified! But like with virtually all successes in implementing differentiation, knockoffs to the true Gospel abound. Join Kevin as he takes a fascinating look at “capital D Differentiation” and its knockoffs. // Download this episode's Application & Action quest...

About Harry Guggenheim

June 14, 2022 11:00 - 13 minutes - 9.52 MB

The story of the extraordinary Harry Guggenheim is one of the most engaging American stories of the last century. What many amazing endeavors did this remarkable human being do…and to what end? What was his impact and his destiny? Join Kevin as we dive into the amazing life of Harry Guggenheim! // Download this episode's Application & Action questions and PDF transcript at whitestone.org.

Finance Focus #16 - Grandpa Bredo and Legacy

June 07, 2022 11:00 - 12 minutes - 8.84 MB

Have you heard of Frozen Dead Guy Days? Yes, that’s a real event every year that celebrates “Grandpa Bredo,” a frozen corpse! But is that really Bredo’s true legacy? Join Kevin as we consider gaining and sustaining true legacy as followers of Jesus…and doing that in the midst of both a highly distracted world and a sometimes-distracted church! // Download this episode's Application & Action questions and PDF transcript at whitestone.org.

Supply Chain - McLean’s Container World

May 31, 2022 11:00 - 14 minutes - 9.83 MB

So, how about that Malcolm McLean? Oh…? You haven’t heard of Malcolm McLean, a man whose work has resulted in economic betterment for many hundreds of millions of people for decades? No surprise there. The story of McLean’s work is buried in many items on the shelves of the nearest Walmart and has pervasively impacted the world. Join Kevin in a fascinating rendering of McLean’s world of impacting others through amazing innovation—the very kind of stewardship thinking and action that God has ...

Research-Wisdom-Action #11 - Before Proceeding, You Must…

May 24, 2022 11:00 - 13 minutes - 9.47 MB

Let’s face it…decision-making in many organizations can and often does get off-track pretty easily. In fact, it can outwardly look good as a process, but the underlying assumptions about sources and data and inputs and conclusions are flawed. The amazing thing is, Jesus taught directly on this type of flawed thinking—and He did that in a way that is helpful in all our decision-making. Join Kevin as we dive into what we all must do before proceeding in the next steps of strong decision-making...

Leadership Exists to Serve Stewardship

May 17, 2022 11:00 - 12 minutes - 8.42 MB

America is chock full of people who like to consider themselves impactful leaders. But what are they stewards of? Thriving businesses? A unique long-term vision? The Great Commission? Or is it all just a multi-decade, ego-centric quest for being perceived as a leader? Join Kevin as we take a look at one of the most important truths gleaned from the Bible: leadership exists to serve stewardship! // Download this episode's Application & Action questions and PDF transcript at whitestone.org.

Abraham #4 - A “Lot” of Troubles

May 10, 2022 11:00 - 12 minutes - 8.61 MB

Abraham lived an amazing life of faith and blessing. But it wasn’t all a bed or roses—and that was at least partly because of troubles brought upon as Abraham became entwined with a key family member, Lot. Who among us doesn’t know that families can have a lot of upside potential and a lot of downside potential? Well, Abraham’s nephew Lot was a whole lot of downside. Join Kevin as we explore God’s unconditional covenant with Abraham, some of the troubles that his nephew Lot brought to Abraha...

True and Untrue Mysteries, Solved

May 03, 2022 11:00 - 12 minutes - 8.36 MB

The Hardy Boys mystery series. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle’s detective Sherlock Holmes’ adventures. The Apostle Paul revealing spiritual truths. Over the years, what has your reading list looked like…the solving of fictional mysteries or spiritual mysteries? What’s it look like today? Why? Join Kevin as he discusses true and untrue mysteries being solved, with special emphasis on the Apostle Paul and his impact on our lives and fruits today. // Download this episode's Application & Action questio...

Marketing #3 - The Marketing Mix

April 26, 2022 11:00 - 13 minutes - 9.37 MB

So how’s your strategic marketing? Is your enterprise—whether a business or a nonprofit—ahead of the competitive wolves? Well, there’s one proven way to start assessing and then handling that. Join Kevin as he takes a lengthy trip to the movies to unfold the framework of the classic marketing mix of product, price, place, and promotion. That’s what leaders must navigate and master in order to flourish in their stewardship of their organizations. So, how’s the marketing mix faring at your wor...

About George Washington Carver

April 19, 2022 11:00 - 14 minutes - 9.65 MB

Where and how do you learn highly technical information? One of the most amazing millennia-old answers came from the pen of African American scientist George Washington Carver, one of the most famous men in America in the first half of the 20th century. Bluntly, Carver believed such knowledge comes from God. Are we too sophisticated to believe that now? Join Kevin as we dive into the amazing life of George Washington Carver! // Download this episode's Application & Action questions and PDF t...

Finance Focus #15 - Priced for Perfection

April 12, 2022 11:00 - 13 minutes - 9.46 MB

Have you heard the stock-market idea of “priced for perfection?” That’s often used when people believe that a high-flying stock is due for a big drop. But are they always right? And how might “priced for perfection” apply in other areas of our decision-making? Join Kevin as we dip into “priced for perfection” in really practical ways, including the practical decision for Christ! // Download this episode's Application & Action questions and PDF transcript at whitestone.org.

Supply Chain Perpetual Reconfiguration of Infrastructure

April 05, 2022 11:00 - 13 minutes - 9.14 MB

Supply chain is one of the most important inflection points of an enterprise’s success…and the COVID era has reminded us that many dimensions of supply chain are not in our control. Just how should we think about supply chain in our businesses, nonprofits and churches? Join Kevin as the he addresses this key area that even the smallest enterprise must deal with—the perpetual reconfiguration and refinement of infrastructure in your supply chain! // Download this episode's Application & Action...

Research-Wisdom-Action #10 - “I Don’t Know”

March 29, 2022 11:00 - 13 minutes - 9.06 MB

“I don’t know” can be liberating words for both the speaker and the hearer. But we don’t hear that very often from all of those “experts” lined up for our media consumption! Does this information age validate that there are a lot more experts nowadays…or fewer true experts because the data set is so much larger? Join Kevin as he discusses the scarcity and the importance of the phrase “I don’t know.” // Download this episode's Application & Action questions and PDF transcript at whitestone.or...

The Most Powerful Words Ever Spoken

March 22, 2022 11:00 - 13 minutes - 9.25 MB

Are you in the business of honestly, earnestly appealing to God’s will, even if contrary to your desires voiced in the same prayer? Well, that’s the model Jesus gave us at one of the most momentous events in all of history. And that approach is what Jesus taught the Twelve.  Join Kevin as he unpacks the most powerful words ever spoken—and how we can and should invoke those same words every day!  // Download this episode's Application & Action questions and PDF transcript at whitestone.org.

Abraham #3 - An Occupying Obedience

March 15, 2022 11:00 - 13 minutes - 9.56 MB

Abraham lived and died before the Law of Moses was given. Yet he was known for his amazing obedience. Like Abraham, born-again believers are “not under the law” of Moses. But so many Christians focus on obedience to the Law rather than faith. Join Kevin as we unpack Abraham’s amazing “occupying” obedience to God by faith…and consider our amazing opportunities! // Download this episode's Application & Action questions and PDF transcript at whitestone.org.

21st Century Factors of Production

March 08, 2022 12:00 - 13 minutes - 9.44 MB

Do you recall the factors of production? Well, that’s from the basic economics that each and every one of us have had to grapple with to succeed in our enterprises! But in this episode, Kevin tells us that the landscape has really changed the last couple of decades. Join him as he unpacks 21st century factors of production essential for both our workplace success and our personal success! // Download this episode's Application & Action questions and PDF transcript at whitestone.org.

Marketing #2 - The Crucial Foundation of Utilities

March 01, 2022 12:00 - 15 minutes - 10.6 MB

There is not a stronger argument for strategic marketing as totally necessary for organizational success than the foundation of “Christ and Him crucified” for the Great Commission. So, just how did Jesus revolutionize the concept of marketing “utility,” and what lessons can we draw from that?  Join Kevin as he explores the crucial foundation of utilities to overall marketing success…in our churches and our workplaces!  // Download this episode's Application & Action questions and PDF transcr...

About Wayne Gretzky

February 22, 2022 12:00 - 13 minutes - 9.36 MB

How about “the Great One,” Wayne Gretzky? An amazing, never duplicated force in the National Hockey League for two decades, Gretzky’s path holds several key insights for us to glean from in both our professional lives and our Kingdom roles. Join Kevin as he carves out five key takeaways, remarkable in their applicability to our fruitfulness and possibilities for our lives!  // Download this episode's Application & Action questions and PDF transcript at whitestone.org.

Finance Focus #14 - Bootstrapping

February 15, 2022 12:00 - 13 minutes - 9.16 MB

Countless entrepreneurs have bootstrapped their enterprises without every even knowing the word “bootstrapping.” But whether they know the term or not, the very best entrepreneurs specifically parlay their past and present resources into long-term success. So do astute Christians in every sphere of life, and that can result in Kingdom impact! Join Kevin as he parses bootstrapping for every person, whether they will ever become a business entrepreneur or not! // Download this episode's Applic...

Supply Chain Cooperation

February 08, 2022 12:00 - 13 minutes - 9.39 MB

Prosperity in complex societies is deeply indebted to the effectiveness of supply chains for virtually every product or service. That requires remarkable cooperation among many supply-chain partners. But the knock against free markets is that they foster dog-eat-dog competition. So, which is it—competition or cooperation? Join Kevin as we take a look at mutually beneficial cooperation!  // Download this episode's Application & Action questions and PDF transcript at whitestone.org.

Research-Wisdom-Action #9 - The Next 10,000 Hours

February 01, 2022 12:00 - 13 minutes - 8.98 MB

You’ve likely heard of 10,000 hours—loosely, that means how long it takes for someone to be world-class at a particular skill. So, what are you doing about your next 10,000 hours? And how are those around you—and the Holy Spirit Who is in you—a part of the journey? Join Kevin as he unpacks the story of 10,000 hours and the opportunity each of us has before us in our next 10,000 hours of learning! // Download this episode's Application & Action questions and PDF transcript at whitestone.org.

The Hedgehog and the Fox

January 25, 2022 12:00 - 13 minutes - 9.15 MB

Have you ever heard someone say that some famous leader was a hedgehog? What’s that all about? Well, it comes from a small book written decades ago titled “The Hedgehog and the Fox.” And that contrast of hedgehog vs. fox is still a topic of conversation. But what can it mean for Christians in understanding others…and themselves? Join Kevin as he unpacks this saying and its profound implications for each of us! // Download this episode's Application & Action questions and PDF transcript at wh...

Abraham #2 - Hearing Can Beget

January 18, 2022 12:00 - 13 minutes - 9.57 MB

Are you listening to the voice of God in a similar vein to Abraham…are you expecting God’s fresh specifics for you? Or is the voice of God silent outside the pages of the Bible? Join Kevin as he gets to one of the keys to the richest fullness of a fruitful Christian life, preparing good soil for the sower of the seed. That’s just how the true hearing of the voice of God can beget manifold fruit!  // Download this episode's Application & Action questions and PDF transcript at whitestone.org.

Risk Redefined

January 11, 2022 12:00 - 13 minutes - 9.51 MB

Did your belief in Christ and Him crucified change how you view risk and take prompt redefined action in your personal finances…your relationships…your works? Yes, Jesus covered our eternal destiny! But what about the here and now, too? Join Kevin as he walks through the reality of risk as believers: risk intentionally transformed by our life in Christ! // Download this episode's Application & Action questions and PDF transcript at whitestone.org.

Marketing #1 - Offerings That Have Value

January 04, 2022 12:00 - 14 minutes - 9.93 MB

The heart of marketing is working to ensure your organization successfully presents offerings that have value! But that’s easier said than done when motivated competitors are determined to disrupt all your efforts. But the core secret is still “offerings that have value.” Join Kevin as he unfolds the story of the ultimate offering that has had value for millennia—and how that framework sets the standard for today!  // Download this episode's Application & Action questions and PDF transcript ...

About Ross Perot

December 28, 2021 12:00 - 14 minutes - 9.78 MB

Have you heard of Ross Perot, the billionaire Presidential candidate well before Donald Trump? Well, Perot was one of the most unique Americans ever. And Perot’s life and approaches have many lessons for us to consider, with the result that many view him as one of the best leaders ever. Join Kevin as he reports some of the most unusual, seemingly craziest things you’ve ever heard about a leader doing business in America. // Download this episode's Application & Action questions and PDF trans...

Finance Focus #13 - IPO, Initial Public Offering

December 21, 2021 12:00 - 12 minutes - 8.93 MB

Have you heard about privately-held companies being strong enough to be listed on a public stock exchange? That’s called doing an IPO, an Initial Public Offering, or “going public.” Well, the whole staging of a company like that is fascinating. Join Kevin as he walks through this amazing world that can build real wealth for the ordinary person—and how Jesus did that for us even more so at the Cross! // Download this episode's Application & Action questions and PDF transcript at whitestone.org.

Supply Chain Headlines

December 14, 2021 12:00 - 14 minutes - 9.97 MB

Supply chain. That phrase is on the lips of many millions of people nowadays, and that’s because something’s gone wrong in many a supply chain. So what’s the issue at hand? And what can we learn from the history of supply chains that will help us understand our present context? Join Kevin as we take a fun look at supply chains, their huge impact on our lives, and our opportunities. // Download this episode's Application & Action questions and PDF transcript at whitestone.org.

Research-Wisdom-Action #8 - From Galileo to the Greeter

December 07, 2021 12:00 - 13 minutes - 9.23 MB

Are you gleaning everything you could each day, perhaps even from the Walmart greeter or checker? And are you gleaning from the ecosystems that frame our lives, learning from the great game-changers practicing big-picture betterment for many others? And are you capturing good practices from the people in-between the great and the lowly? Join Kevin as we dive into research-wisdom-and-action—from Galileo to the greeter! // Download this episode's Application & Action questions and PDF transcri...

Anchors and Seabeds

November 30, 2021 12:00 - 13 minutes - 9.52 MB

Do you think in terms of anchors when it comes to your life…your workplace…your eternal destiny? More directly, do you plan on effectively anchoring to a seabed that you or your competitors all share access to? So, what can’t you change and what can you do? Join Kevin as he ties together anchors and seabeds for the Kingdom of God, for Walmart, and for your business or nonprofit! // Download this episode's Application & Action questions and PDF transcript at whitestone.org.

Abraham #1 - The Preparatory Years

November 23, 2021 12:00 - 14 minutes - 9.73 MB

Abraham lived for 75 years preparing for what God had in store for him. What was some of what forged who Abraham was and how he responded so amazingly to events requiring great faith and obedience? Join Kevin as we reflect on some of the core understandings that were inevitably part of Abraham’s toolkit…and possibly our toolkit, too! // Download this episode's Application & Action questions and PDF transcript at whitestone.org.

Profit or Growth?

November 16, 2021 12:00 - 13 minutes - 9.58 MB

Is your workplace’s stewardship focused more on growth or profit? How about your business or your nonprofit—do you have a healthy focus on both growth and profit? Join Kevin as he starts with an astute model for measuring profit and growth and then morphs that important discussion to our work in nonprofits. // Download this episode's Application & Action questions and PDF transcript at whitestone.org.

John Boyd #11 - Linking to the Past

November 09, 2021 12:00 - 13 minutes - 9.29 MB

Robert Coram wrote a very engaging biography of one of the unique figures in American military history, John Boyd. In so doing, Coram gave a great gift to people focused on great stewardship in the face of significant opposition. Join Kevin as he gives a detailed account of Coram’s “linking to the past” and its exemplary value to great stewards of the future. // Download this episode's Application & Action questions and PDF transcript at whitestone.org.

Business vs Nonprofit – Six Key Facets

November 02, 2021 11:00 - 14 minutes - 10.2 MB

Do you believe that key facets of running nonprofits are different than running businesses? Does God prefer you to have a career at a Christian nonprofit or a secular organization? Is it God’s will for you to work at a “noble” organization or a rough-and-tumble organization that needs an authentic witness for Christ? Join Kevin as he considers six major facets of business and nonprofits from a Christian perspective.  // Download this episode's Application & Action questions and PDF transcrip...

Finance Focus #12 Stock Markets & Participatory Magic

October 26, 2021 11:00 - 12 minutes - 8.8 MB

Have you experienced the participatory magic of stock markets, where you essentially hire an up-and-coming CEO or savvy billionaire to increase your investment? Well, that’s a privilege that only the wealthy could do for centuries, yet many ordinary Americans do it all the time nowadays. Join Kevin and renew your mind as he unpacks the participatory magic of stock markets! // Download this episode's Application & Action questions and PDF transcript at whitestone.org.

Are You on Offense or Defense?

October 19, 2021 11:00 - 13 minutes - 9.09 MB

Are you on offense or defense? Say what? That’s right, are you more on offense or defense for the Kingdom of God, for your workplace, and for your career? For example, emphasizing defense over offense can become a real problem, and these two mega-actions need to be tied together in some way! The Bible speaks directly to this, and so do some real-world examples in business. Join Kevin as he dissects what these six key words can and do mean for key areas of your life!  // Download this episode...

Research-Wisdom-Action #7 - Stop, Look, Listen

October 12, 2021 11:00 - 13 minutes - 9.27 MB

“Stop. Look. Listen.” That was a phrase that virtually every American kid knew for several decades, a warning in their ears about the risk at every train crossing or stoplight. But stop, look, listen is exactly what we need to do to research what’s out there in competitive landscapes, whether it’s in our workplaces or our churches. Join Kevin as we take an interesting look at stop, look, listen! // Download this episode's Application & Action questions and PDF transcript at whitestone.org.

What’d You Do After That?

October 05, 2021 11:00 - 13 minutes - 9.02 MB

So, you made the most eventful decision of your life—you believe in Christ as Lord and Savior, accessing God’s gift of grace by your faith! Wow! So, what’d you do after that? Just what is the prescription for what pleases God as to what we work at every day? Join Kevin as we look at one of God’s key prescriptions for what we do today as we approach one expectant thing common to all believers in the future: the Judgment Seat of Christ!  // Download this episode's Application & Action question...

Daniel #12 – Astutely Avoiding Flawed Cornerstones

September 28, 2021 11:00 - 12 minutes - 8.91 MB

After the ultimate in life disruptions as a young man, Daniel was placed in very powerful positions by several different kings. Yet, this itself brought risks and temptations to pick new cornerstones to rely upon when the inevitable troubles arose. How Daniel kept God as his cornerstone in the face of significant risks like losing his very life is amazing! Join Kevin in this final episode in the Daniel series as he unpacks a unique narrative of Daniel and the lessons it has for us. // Downlo...

The Moats of Kings, Buffet, and God

September 21, 2021 11:00 - 13 minutes - 9.55 MB

One of the hottest words in business circles for talking about creating value in an enterprise is “moat,” like the moat around a castle. Have you as a leader helped your organization create a formidable moat, a strong competitive advantage? And what’s your enterprise’s vulnerability? Join Kevin as he moves from medieval castles to Warren Buffet to the eternal Kingdom of God to define what it takes to truly obtain and sustain long-term success in your organization! // Download this episode's ...

John Boyd #10 - A Life Pattern of Standing in the Gap

September 14, 2021 11:00 - 14 minutes - 10.2 MB

John Boyd was an amazing man who stood in the gap for many who would never know that he did so! But the Bible showed the way to stand in the gap for others millennia before Boyd was on the scene—from Abraham and Moses to Jesus and Stephen! Join Kevin as we canvass both the Bible and Boyd’s vocational life patterns to get better equipped to fruitfully stand in the gap for others! // Download this episode's Application & Action questions and PDF transcript at whitestone.org.

Your Key Obstacles Are Internal

September 07, 2021 11:00 - 14 minutes - 9.98 MB

Have you noticed how easy it is to complain about culture and politics block greatness? But is the reason that churches in America are not very effective because of such external forces or their own internal weaknesses? And how about your workplace? Is the problem really a competitor’s greatness? Or is it the fact that your company is being taken by surprise by your competitors all too often? Come for a journey with Kevin as he builds the case that your key obstacles are internal! // Downloa...