White Homework
51 episodes - English - Latest episode: 7 days ago - ★★★★★ - 197 ratingsWhite Homework is a podcast for people wanting to learn about antiracism, the non-revised version of American history, and how to leverage privilege to create a more equitable world for all.
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Debunking Christian Nationalism w/ Andrew Seidel
April 19, 2024 09:06 - 55 minutes - 50.7 MB“As we recognize that humans are human, and worthy of human rights, conservative white america is dying this slow demographic death and rebelling.” Why is it that the exact arguments used against trans people and DEI were being used in defense of slavery in pre emancipation America? I reached out to Andrew Seidel to discuss this patter because he wrote about and debunked all these arguments in his book The Founding Myth: How Christian Nationalism is Unamerican. (Linked at bookshop.org, not ...
Skills for Building Resilience w/ Andre Henry! 💥
April 12, 2024 09:08 - 1 hour - 61.7 MBCW ⚠️: this episode contains references to suicide and diets. If you are experiencing a mental health crisis in the US or Canada you can dial 988 to get support. Fan fave Andre Henry is back to talk about the practice of building resilience in the context of supremacist culture. Honestly, this conversation had me tearing up in places, and yet left me completely inspired and grounded. As you probably already know, I'm so grateful for Andre's work. You can find Andre's book at Bookshop.org (...
Evangelical Racism Keeps Repeating 🔂 w/ Corey Leak
April 05, 2024 07:42 - 47 minutes - 43.4 MBWhy is it that the same arguments used to defend slavery are being used to dehumanize trans people? Why is it that there's no way for most white evangelicals to separate their faith and their nationalism? Why is the Constitution conflated with the Bible? Corey and Tori try to disentangle Christianity from Americanism You can find Corey on IG: @existentialpodcast Existential Podcast White Homework on IG Tori on BlueSky Support the show Free Antiracism Tools Tori's Substack ---...
Debunking That One Prager Meme w/ Benjamin Faye
March 29, 2024 08:55 - 53 minutes - 48.6 MBToday we are taking a crack at ye olde Prager "University" meme about the first Black US representatives, which correctly points out that they were all Republicans and incorrectly implies that their party affiliation mattered for much, then or now. Turns out, they were woke too! Don't tell Dennis! LINKS Benji's Insta: @heythereBenji Benji's Twitter: @_heythereBenji White Homework on IG Tori on BlueSky Support the show Free Antiracism Tools Tori's Substack Robert Brown ...
Mary Richards Bowser w/ Janice Lagata
March 22, 2024 07:36 - 57 minutes - 52.9 MBI've been wanting to try a new format for the show for a while so I took a stab at it this week with Janice Lagata of God Has Not Given. We talk about the fascinating true story of Mary Richards Bowser, a Union spy who was also enslaved. I would LOVE to know what you think about this format, mainly because if you all hate it, I don't want to keep trying to make it happen! 😆 Sign up for Janice's email list HERE. Go follow her on IG at @godhasnotgiven. Subscribe to her podcasts HERE and HERE...
Resilience Isn't An Unlimited Resource with Benjamin Faye
March 15, 2024 08:27 - 55 minutes - 51.4 MBBenjamin Faye joins the show to talk about how grit and resilience mean different things depending on your position in society. Resilience isn't an unlimited resource. The science and experience tell us that is an impossible demand to make on people, doubly so for those who do not have their basic needs met. Benji's Insta: @heythereBenji Benji's Twitter: @_heythereBenji White Homework on IG Tori on BlueSky Support the show Free Antiracism Tools Tori's Substack --- Send in a voice ...
Black & Homeschooled with Jessica Dulaney
April 18, 2022 21:42 - 36 minutes - 67.4 MBThis episode I'm talking to Jessica Dulaney who is the communications director for the Coalition for Responsible Home Education. Being Black and homeschooled felt incredibly isolating to me. Growing up, I never once met another Black child who was being homeschooled that I wasn't biologically related to, so being able to connect with Jessica online has been amazing. Protecting kids is something I'm deeply passionate about. Given the huge rise in homeschooling during the pandemic, and the f...
Who Gets To Define Violence?
April 11, 2022 16:11 - 16 minutes - 31.1 MBPersonal and political violence are nothing new but examining who is allowed to engage in violence and who isn't is essential to understanding the power dynamics we've built the world on. "They do it so we should to" is colonizer logic and I think we can do better than that when it comes to race, racism, and understanding why people feel threatened by the prospect of losing power. Join PAY THE RENT CLUB Work with me Twitter Insta --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotif...
Whiteness Also Hurts White People
April 04, 2022 12:00 - 26 minutes - 47.7 MBWe spend a lot of time talking about the effects of whiteness on people of color but it's important to talk about the impact whiteness has on white people. As a construct, whiteness can only benefit some white people. And even the people who benefit materially are harmed in terms of connection, sympathy, and the demand that you reject your own culture for the monoculture of whiteness. Dr. Jonathan Metzl lays out the material ways white people are harmed by their commitment to an ideology t...
Give Reverse Racism A Chance
March 28, 2022 16:44 - 21 minutes - 38.5 MBWhat does it look like when we start dismantling systems of oppression that benefit a small number of people at the expense of everyone else? Black and Indigenous folks are regularly accused of reverse racism for things that are merely offenses, not systematic harm. But to your nervous system, the opposite of systemic racism is probably going to feel bad. In fact, it's probably going to feel like reverse racism. A lot of it. The opposite of white supremacy is going to feel like oppression wh...
In Defense of Running from the Cops
March 21, 2022 12:00 - 23 minutes - 22.1 MBIf you've ever wondered what to say to someone whose response to another cop committing murder is "shoulda complied", I got you covered. Turns out our bodies are programmed to protect us from danger. Weird, right? And even more shocking: that self-protection programming your nervous system is running? Yeah that's not under voluntary control. In this episode we'll explore the actual reasons people run from the cops or otherwise fail to follow commands, why evolution contributed to this nervo...
Protests Are Good, Actually
March 14, 2022 12:00 - 18 minutes - 16.7 MBWhy do people protest things that are objectively good for themselves and their neighbors? Let's look at protests through the lens of evolutionary biology, nervous system responses, politics, nd power dynamics. History has shown us that protests are a predictable result of burning through all the official channels to create change and getting nowhere. When people don't have any meaningful mechanism to change their material circumstances, they tend to get loud and burn things. (And yes, we're...
Self-Regulation, Racism, and Rest
March 07, 2022 13:00 - 27 minutes - 37.6 MBToday we're talking about rest, sleep, and play, and how they are all integral to self-regulation. Humans don't come fully loaded with equal amounts of self-regulation that some people just choose to use and others don't. Making good decisions isn't the default that some nonwhite people just happened to miss out on. The environment you were raised in has a huge impact on how difficult or easy it is for you to delay gratification, plan for the future, employ critical thinking skills when they...
Self-Medication and Degrees of Harm
February 28, 2022 13:00 - 21 minutes - 19.6 MBWelcome back to White Homework! I want to break down some of the common racist myths that exist in western culture. This week: DRUGS! Let's use address one of the most common racist tropes in US culture: conflating problematic drug use with Black people. Data shows racial groups largely use recreational drugs at the same levels but you certainly wouldn't know that by turning on the news or watching a movie that's come out, well, basically ever. But there's something we need to unpack when...
029: Let's Talk About Palestine w/Khaled Beydoun
May 26, 2021 11:00 - 46 minutes - 42.6 MBIf you've listened to the last two episodes with Andre, you know I've been wrestling with what it looks like to respect all people while also acknowledging that power disparities have an impact on how we engage with harm. I say it all the time, but I want safety and security for all people, even if they disagree with my politics. Like most of you, I've had Palestine and Israel on my mind for the last few weeks. Like a lots of you, I grew up with a theology around the state of Israel that ma...
Part 2! The Morality of Resistance with Andre Henry
May 19, 2021 19:05 - 58 minutes - 54 MBWhen we see injustice in the world and want to fix it, how do you keep from becoming the thing you hate? I can't stop thinking about this so I invited Andre Henry back to discuss how we create a better world without, as Audre Lord puts it, the master's tools. I can't stop thinking about the issue of moral responses to violence. Where, to ask the correctly panned question, is the line? How far can the people go in their resistance before we circle right back to where our oppressors began? W...
027: The Morality of Resistance with Andre Henry
May 12, 2021 11:00 - 1 hour - 64.3 MBThere are a lot of ways to protest and trying to figure out what the appropriate violence is feels overwhelmingly difficult. When the state is inherently violent, how are people committed to non-violence supposed to respond? Capitalism, the law, personal property are all values in American culture all have more value than nonwhite Americans. As Dr. King said, we have a moral responsibility to break unjust laws. So how do we do this? I spoke to Andre Henry about how we move forward in this in...
026: Leaving Whiteness w/ Corey Evan Leak
May 10, 2021 05:28 - 50 minutes - 47.1 MBThanks all for your generosity and patience as I'm getting stuff situated over here!! I had a conversation with Corey Leak about how we left white Jesus and moved into a space that is committed to material equity. We need creative imagination to create a world where no one is a commodity, no one is a product, no one is just the labor they produce. Oppressive systems need to be completely reimagined and rebuilt from the ground up. Check out Corey on all the things! Twitter Podcast Websit...
025: A Brief History of White Evangelicals w/ Dr. Brad Onishi
May 10, 2021 04:55 - 40 minutes - 37.8 MBThis week, I had a conversation with Dr. Bradley Onishi. Brad is a professor of religious studies at Skidmore College, and the host of the podcast Straight White American Jesus. I think it would be safe to say - and I've told Brad this several times - that I am a little bit of a fangirl. As someone who grew up in white evangelical spaces, I'm kind of obsessed with their origin story and their devotion to empire. (You know, the thing that Jesus preached against constantly?) It's a story that ...
024: White Christian Nationalism with Blake Chastain
March 18, 2021 00:17 - 48 minutes - 45.3 MBHey y'all! Had a great conversation with Blake Chastain several months ago about the slow merging of evangelicalism and nationalism. We're currently watching evangelicalism in the US move from being a religious or spiritual identifier to a political identifier. For those of us who grew up in white evangelical spaces this isn't surprising. After the election of Barack Obama, white evangelical churches began closing ranks much faster than they had been before. In the 90s and 00s, there was a ...
023: Liberation is for Everybody w/ Jo Luehmann
February 24, 2021 12:00 - 56 minutes - 52.2 MBTaking a little break from our "racism doesn't exist" series to talk to Jo Luehmann about justice, joy, liberation, and accountability. I reached out to her originally because I am obsessed with her work around decolonizing theology. As a nonbeliever, we have nothing (to my knowledge) on the matters of joy and liberation for all people. But these are some of our shared values so I knew I had to chat with her. We had an amazing discussion and Jo blew my mind on several occasions, as she does....
022: What Racism? Part 3: Hiring Discrimination
February 17, 2021 13:00 - 54 minutes - 50.8 MBAlice joins me to talk about the abundance data proving the rampant discrimination in hiring and employment. "There are way too many Black men named Steve." I yell out into the universe while lecturing people about... name shaming? Apologies I'm still working on this. Workplace Discrimination Is Illegal (But Still Happening) Discrimination Hasn't Gone Down in Two Decades Black people get fewer callbacks for job interviews White women are the primary beneficiaries Black, Latino Two Par...
021: What Racism? Part 2: Housing Discrimination
February 10, 2021 11:00 - 55 minutes - 51.6 MBOMG WE HAVE A NEW FORMAT!! I'm really excited. I mean, it's possible that we COMPLETELY bombed it but at some point we'll get it under control and it'll be a good thing. Get ready to talk about housing discrimination (and javalinas and Black pioneers in Oregon and a million swears) with Alice and me. My notes are from the following sources. Smithsonian Magazine report on the destruction of Vanport History of Black Portland Undercover Investigation in Racial Discrimination in New York ...
020: Medical Racism
February 03, 2021 13:00 - 46 minutes - 43.1 MBHappy Black History Month! This week we're starting a new series! We're calling this one "Racism Doesn't Exist" since so many white Americans believe that racism ended with MLK. So we're diving into the data and examining the disparities that exist between white people and Black people in every area of society. This week we're talking about the treatment of nonwhite patients in the medical field. Additional reading Disparities in maternal mortality Doctors spend less time with Black cance...
019: Black Conservatism
January 27, 2021 17:49 - 51 minutes - 47.5 MBContrary to popular belief, Black Americans are more socially conservative on average, than their white peers. We are more likely to believe in God, attend church regularly, and most of us believe that hard work is it takes to succeed. Shocker, huh? Alice Hamilton joins Tori to discuss the difference between Black conservatism and Black conservatives. Find more at www.whitehomework.com and www.toriglass.com Executive Producers Jeffrey Martin Nate Frazier Producer Jillian Cohan Martin A...
018: Sex Work Is Real Work
January 21, 2021 23:56 - 53 minutes - 49.8 MBAlice and Tori talk about how we are learning how respect sex workers and protect them from both dangerous people and dangerous policies. Executive Producers Jeffrey Martin Nate Frazier Producer Jillian Cohan Martin Audio Producer and Editor Nash Propst Artwork by Slade Sundar www.sladesundar.com Music by K.Solis --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/toriglass/message
017: Well That Was Easy (The Coup)
January 13, 2021 12:00 - 51 minutes - 48.1 MBAlice Hamilton and I sat down to discuss the attempted takeover of the Capitol in DC. A note of caution: language is terribly important. Alice and I use the term "coup" as a catchall throughout this episode to refer to the events that occurred in Washington DC on January 6th, 2021. With that said, I don't know how precise it is to refer to this event as a coup. For starters most (operative word!!) of the duck dynasty delegation had absolutely no plan other than to get inside the building. T...
017: Black Conservatives
December 02, 2020 11:58 - 40 minutes - 37.3 MBAlice Hamilton is back to help Tori break down the mystery of Black conservatives, from the 1800s til today. We tackle all kinds of motivation for Black folks aligning with the right, from the true believers to major grifters, and talk about how white progressives do more harm than good when they try to "collect" Black folks for having different politics. We wade into the messy politics of surviving white supremacy in America and discuss our childhood experiences growing up as Black kids in...
016: Let's Talk About Defunding The Police
November 25, 2020 09:51 - 40 minutes - 37.3 MBAlice and I decided to tackle something that's become a huge part of the national narrative: why have cops at all? We have pretty clear data that policing does not work. Policing is a net negative for communities, but it's also bad for the officers themselves. "Slavery didn't work either. It costs money. It costs lives. We have all this information and all this data, and we don't use it." "Warrior Mindset" police training. Police unions in the US. Police Clearance Rates. SCOTUS ruling ...
015: Black People & White Supremacy
November 18, 2020 13:00 - 51 minutes - 47.9 MBTori is joined by Alice Hamilton to discuss the reclamation of Black humanity in a country founded on white supremacist values. They discuss the ways that whiteness collides with Black bodies through assumptions, dehumanization, infantilization, lionizing, othering, and more. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/toriglass/message
014: Purity Culture & White Supremacy
October 28, 2020 13:00 - 45 minutes - 42.1 MBTori is joined by Alice Hamilton and Hailee Evelyn Greene to discuss the ways that purity culture plays out for Black girls in predominantly white spaces. Executive Producers Jeffrey Martin Nate Frazier Producer Jillian Cohan Martin Audio Producer and Editor Nash Propst Artwork by Slade Sundar www.sladesundar.com Music by K.Solis --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/toriglass/message
013: Trump Vs Black Women
October 22, 2020 04:26 - 41 minutes - 38.4 MBTori and Alice discuss Trump's executive orders targeting Black women's work. Executive Producers Jeffrey Martin Nate Frazier Producer Jillian Cohan Martin Audio Producer and Editor Nash Propst Artwork by Slade Sundar www.sladesundar.com Music by K.Solis --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/toriglass/message
012: America is NOT a Democracy
September 24, 2020 20:28 - 38 minutes - 35.6 MBTori and Alice dig into American history and the fact that the United States was never intended to be a democracy and can't operate as a functional democracy because of that. The article discussed in the episode Executive Producers Jeffrey Martin Nate Frazier Producer Jillian Cohan Martin Audio Producer and Editor Nash Propst Artwork by Slade Sundar www.sladesundar.com Music by K.Solis --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/toriglass/message
011: America is NOT a Democracy
September 24, 2020 20:28 - 38 minutes - 35.6 MBTori and Alice dig into American history and the fact that the United States was never intended to be a democracy and can't operate as a functional democracy because of that. The article discussed in the episode Executive Producers Jeffrey Martin Nate Frazier Producer Jillian Cohan Martin Audio Producer and Editor Nash Propst Artwork by Slade Sundar www.sladesundar.com Music by K.Solis --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/toriglass/message
010: Re-Imaging Success with Dan Price
September 09, 2020 20:21 - 50 minutes - 47 MBOn this episode, Tori is joined by Dan Price, CEO of Gravity Payments. Dan Price took a million dollar pay cut in order to pay all of his employees $70,000. His attempt at creative imagination paid off. Antiracism requires new ways of imagining success in every aspect of life. You can find Dan's new book, Worth It: How a Million-Dollar Pay Cut and a $70,000 Minimum Wage Revealed a Better Way of Doing Business here. Executive Producers Jeffrey Martin Nate Frazier Producer Jillian Cohan Ma...
011: Re-Imaging Success with Dan Price
September 09, 2020 20:21 - 50 minutes - 47 MBOn this episode, Tori is joined by Dan Price, CEO of Gravity Payments. Dan Price took a million dollar pay cut in order to pay all of his employees $70,000. His attempt at creative imagination paid off. Antiracism requires new ways of imagining success in every aspect of life. You can find Dan's new book, Worth It: How a Million-Dollar Pay Cut and a $70,000 Minimum Wage Revealed a Better Way of Doing Business here. Executive Producers Jeffrey Martin Nate Frazier Producer Jillian Cohan Ma...
010: Pro-Life Racism
September 02, 2020 17:36 - 46 minutes - 43.2 MBAlice joins Tori to talk about the ways the pro-life movement has been fueled by racism. Last week at the RNC, Abby Johnson spoke. She released a video a few months ago where she claimed that police would justified racially profiling her son because, she claimed, Black people commit more violent crimes. This made me realize all the ways in which the pro-life movement have used their single issue as cover for their racism. Content warnings apply. Abby Johnson's comments on her son Racist an...
009: Pro-Life Racism
September 02, 2020 17:36 - 46 minutes - 43.2 MBAlice joins Tori to talk about the ways the pro-life movement has been fueled by racism. Last week at the RNC, Abby Johnson spoke. She released a video a few months ago where she claimed that police would justified racially profiling her son because, she claimed, Black people commit more violent crimes. This made me realize all the ways in which the pro-life movement have used their single issue as cover for their racism. Content warnings apply. Abby Johnson's comments on her son Racist an...
009: Is White Privilege Even A Thing?
July 23, 2020 16:35 - 40 minutes - 37.5 MBTori is joined by Alice Hamilton to talk about what the heck white privilege really means and how privilege interacts with cancel culture. Executive Producers Jeffrey Martin Nate Frazier Producer Jillian Cohan Martin Audio Producer and Editor Nash Propst Artwork Slade Sundar www.sladesundar.com Music by K.Solis --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/toriglass/message
008: Shared Humanity with Propaganda
July 15, 2020 15:08 - 47 minutes - 43.6 MBTori is joined by hip hop artist Propaganda to talk about power dynamics, rejecting force and violence, and choosing collaborative problem solving within a white supremacist framework. Executive Producers Jeffrey Martin Nate Frazier Producer Jillian Cohan Martin Audio Producer and Editor Nash Propst Artwork Slade Sundar www.sladesundar.com Music by K.Solis --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/toriglass/message
007: Shared Value with Rev Lenny Duncan
July 08, 2020 16:30 - 40 minutes - 37.3 MBTori is joined by Rev Lenny to talk about the ways in which he (a Black pastor) and she (a Black atheist) share values and vision for creating a more just world. Ultimately wanting a world that protects the vulnerable is what drives both of us, despite our seemingly antithetical viewpoints. Executive Producers Jeffrey Martin Nate Frazier Producer Jillian Cohan Martin Audio Producer and Editor Nash Propst Artwork Slade Sundar www.sladesundar.com Music by K.Solis --- Send in a vo...
006: Black on Black Generosity with Steve Zakauni
July 01, 2020 13:00 - 35 minutes - 65.6 MBThis episode Tori talks to Steve Zakauni about Black generosity, anti-Black tropes, and all of the white assumptions that come up during national Black grief. Executive Producers Jeffrey Martin Nate Frazier Producer Jillian Cohan Martin Audio Producer and Editor Nash Propst Artwork Slade Sundar www.sladesundar.com Music by K.Solis --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/toriglass/message
005: Respectability Politics
June 17, 2020 12:00 - 41 minutes - 76.4 MBTori is joined by Alice Hamilton to discuss the moving goal posts for Black and brown humanity. We break down the impossible tasks of achieving full humanity within the construct of whiteness through behavior modification and all the ways that whiteness tells on itself by killing Black and brown people regardless of how respectable we are. Executive Producers Jeffrey Martin Nate Frazier Producer Jillian Cohan Martin Audio Producer and Editor Nash Propst Artwork Slade Sundar www.s...
Black Lives Still Matter (Protest Thoughts)
June 10, 2020 11:00 - 35 minutes - 65.3 MBTori is joined by Alice Hamilton to discuss Black lives, the need for protest, and the different standards for white protesters compared to everyone else. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/toriglass/message
But I Have A Black Friend!
June 03, 2020 16:00 - 39 minutes - 71.6 MBIn episode three, Alice Hamilton is back with Tori Williams Douglass to talk about how No, You Don't Actually Have A Black Friend. You have a Black colleague. Or a Black neighbor. Or a Black barista. "If I can't talk to you about every part of my life, we're not actually friends." - Alice. Renee Bach kills 100 Ugandan children Half of Medical Students Believe Black People's Nerve Endings Are Less Sensitive Executive Producers Jeffrey Martin Nate Frazier Producer Jillian Cohan Martin...
Why Can't I Say The N-Word?
June 03, 2020 15:00 - 26 minutes - 47.7 MB"The solution to harm caused is not causing more harm. It's restoration." Let's get this one out of the way. You can't say the N-word. You can't wear a headdress. You can't have a spirit animal. In this episode Tori Williams Douglass and Alice Hamilton talk about WHY these actions cause so much harm, regardless of intent. The Clark Doll Test Executive Producers Jeffrey Martin Nate Frazier Producer Jillian Cohan Martin Audio Producer and Editor Nash Propst Artwork Slade Sundar w...
Why Do We Still Need To Talk About Race?
June 03, 2020 14:00 - 27 minutes - 49.8 MBJeff and Nate asked me to start the this relaunch by covering the super basics. So here we go. Let's start at the very beginning. Why are we even talking about this? Isn't this issue over except for people who want to keep complaining? On this episode, I'm joined by comedian and screenwriter Alice Hamilton, to discuss why we even need to have a conversation about race. We are laying a foundation on which to build the rest of White Homework's content. It won't always be this basic, I prom...
Doing Your Own Work with Melissa Urban
March 10, 2020 22:58 - 26 minutes - 24.3 MBTori talks to Melissa Urban, co-founder and CEO of Whole30, about her commitment to inclusion and justice in her personal life and business. You can find Melissa on Instagram at @melissau, and be sure to check out her podcast Do The Thing. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/toriglass/message
Better Than Punishment
March 02, 2020 03:37 - 21 minutes - 19.9 MBWithin colonized spaces, members of a community are generally taught to expect punishment if they don’t comply with society’s demands. As people striving for antiracist policies and actions, this tool simply does not suffice. It also doesn’t work. We know from decades of research that punishment is one of the least effective terms for improving behavior in the long term. So what else do we have? (The resource I mentioned in the episode is called Exploring Cultural Values and Habits by Debby I...
Black Anger
November 13, 2019 18:41 - 55 minutes - 51.4 MBWe live in a society (and, frankly, a world) where black anger is policed, silenced, and shut down. Black people are praised for forgiveness but are frequently told that anger has no place as a response to harm caused by white supremacy. Andre Henry and Tori tackle this pervasive attempt to dehumanize black lives by limiting which emotions we are allowed to experience and express, and dig into the beauty that comes from listening to black voices. --- Send in a voice message: https://podca...