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Does America need to break up? With Mises Institute President Jeff Deist
December 22, 2020 20:00 - 37 minutes - 25.7 MB"We deserve to live peaceably as neighbors," says Jeff Deist, "even if that means breaking up and creating new political entities." The divisions in our society are undeniable. Is it possible that making them official is the best way forward? Jeff's article "What Will It Take for Americans to Consider Breaking Up?" is here. (The audio version of the article is here.) You can read some of the best writing on liberty and economics at the Mises Institute, here.
Dr. Paul Thomas on the suspension of his medical license 5 days after his "vaxxed vs. unvaxxed" study was published
December 16, 2020 20:00 - 1 hour - 45.1 MBAccording to the Oregon Medical Board, pediatrician Dr. Paul Thomas is "...a serious danger to the public health..." Oddly, they only discovered this after he published a peer-reviewed study comparing health outcomes of patients who had been vaccinated to those who had not. You can see some of the results of that study here. The study itself is here. The order from the Oregon Medical Board, suspending Dr. Thomas' license, is here. Dr. Thomas' book, "The Vaccine-Friendly Plan" can be fou...
Empowering patients, and fighting medical authoritarianism, with Charles Frohman
December 15, 2020 01:00 - 41 minutes - 28.3 MBI speak with long-time health freedom advocate Charlie Frohman, about his cash pay alternative to health insurance, how medicine is becoming even more authoritarian, and about some practical ways to combat that. Charlie's organization, the National Health Federation, is here, and you can send letters to their representatives and senators from here. His slide presentation on the cash-paying patient is here. The medical cost sharing organization, MPB Health, is here. The NVIC presentation ...
The Centralized Economy Up Close - A Personal Story
December 14, 2020 19:00 - 28 minutes - 19.6 MBI talk a lot about the evils of centralized control, and have had several guests on to talk about it too. But I think that unless you've experienced it firsthand, it's hard to fully appreciate what that means. In this episode, I speak with a woman who grew up in Hungary when it was under Communist rule. She describes what it is like to live under a centralized power, of what it means for each individual in that system and the impact it has on every aspect of one's life. If you (or maybe...
Kevin McKernan on the review of the Corman-Drosten PCR methodology that he co-authored–and some words of appreciation for my listeners!
December 09, 2020 00:00 - 46 minutes - 31.7 MBI speak with Kevin McKernan about the report he co-authored calling for the retraction of the paper upon which much of the world's Covid-19 PCR testing is based. Kevin also thanks you guys–my listeners–for possibly helping to get the attention of some of those who are starting to reverse course on the lockdowns (and the badly flawed testing they are based on). So keep it up! The Corman-Drosten Review Report (with comments) is here. "Detection of 2019 novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV) by real-...
Kevin McKernan on the review of the Corman-Drosten PCR methodology that he co-authored–and some words of appreciation for my listeners!
December 09, 2020 00:00 - 46 minutes - 31.7 MBI speak with Kevin McKernan about the report he co-authored calling for the retraction of the paper upon which much of the world's Covid-19 PCR testing is based. Kevin also thanks you guys–my listeners–for possibly helping to get the attention of some of those who are starting to reverse course on the lockdowns (and the badly flawed testing they are based on). So keep it up! The Corman-Drosten Review Report (with comments) is here. "Detection of 2019 novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV) by real-...
Ayurevedic Medicine and Covid-19, with Dr. Bhaswati Bhattacharya
November 29, 2020 18:00 - 1 hour - 65.8 MBI speak with scientist, international public health specialist, MD and Ayurvedic practitioner and teacher, Dr. Bhaswati Bhattacharya, about the nature of Ayurvedic medicine, barriers to alternative medicine in the US, and using Ayurveda with Covid-19. Dr. Bhaswati Bhattacharya's website is here. You can find her column "Everyday Ayurveda" here. And her article mentioned in this episode, "To Vaxx or Not To Vaxx" is here. The book she mentioned, "The History of Medicine in the United Stat...
What is "Non-Violent Communication" and what does it have to do with liberty? With Gretchen Wahlstedt
November 16, 2020 16:00 - 38 minutes - 26.6 MBI speak with my sister, Gretchen Wahlstedt, about her experiences with Non-Violent Communication, what that actually means, and the role it can play in the fight for liberty.
Why Japan is Different, ALSO: Next Week's Truly Indie Film Fest that You Won't Want to Miss
November 11, 2020 18:00 - 53 minutes - 37.1 MBI talk with radio DJ and director of the Japan Indies Film Festival. We try to pin down what it is that makes Japan so awesome, touch on the role of immigration restrictions on culture, and even mention masks. We also talk about next week's film festival, and did I mention that it's FREE? Japan Indies Film Festival is here - Nov. 16-17 in Japan, which is Nov. 17-18 in the US. You can find Mike's radio show here. The article Mike mentioned, "5 ThingsNobody Tells You About Living in Japan" ...
When Libertarians Cheer the Total State, with Don Boudreaux
November 09, 2020 19:00 - 44 minutes - 30.3 MBI ask economics professor and columnist Don Boudreaux what the Hell is going on. He doesn't know either. We commiserate. You can find Don at Cafe Hayek. His article "Why so Gullible About Government in the Face of Covid-19?" is here. ...and his other recent article, "Covid Collectivism" is here.
Kevin Kiley on his court victory against CA Governor Newsom
November 07, 2020 00:00 - 17 minutes - 12.3 MBI speak with California legislator Kevin Kiley after the favorable ruling in his case against Governor Gavin Newsom's one-man rule. My earlier episode with Kiley is here. The court ruling is here. Kevin Kiley's blog post about the ruling is here, and news coverage of the ruling can be found here and here.
Kevin Kiley's Lawsuit Against Governor Newsom Could Set a Critical Precedent
October 30, 2020 19:00 - 25 minutes - 17.5 MBI spoke with California legislator Kevin Kiley this week, about his (and fellow legislator James Gallagher's) lawsuit against Governor Newsom's authoritarian orders, and his one-man rule. You can see Kiley's opening arguments in the case here. And his blog, with updates on the lawsuit, is here.
Kerry McDonald on a powerful weapon against teen depression. Also: What to do about Halloween!
October 30, 2020 19:00 - 43 minutes - 30 MBI speak with unschooling mom and homeschooling advocate Kerry McDonald about an upcoming 4-day webinar to help inspire teens' inner entrepreneurs – and about why it is more critical than ever that we encourage our teens to find ways to create and to contribute now. We also talk about Halloween... FEE's "Entrepreneur Week" is Nov. 16-19, and is FREE. You can sign up here. Kerry's book, "Homeschooling in the Time of Covid-19" is available for download here. Her article "How our Culture D...
Bad assumptions drive bad policy: Masks and viruses, with Roger Koops
October 29, 2020 20:00 - 44 minutes - 30.5 MBI speak with retired scientist Roger Koops, about the nature of viruses and how flawed assumptions about they operate in the natural world have driven mask recommendations and mandates that may do more harm than good. We also talk a little about how people in Japan have responded to the virus, and how the national and local governments have reacted. Roger Koops is a contributing author for AIER, and is also a retired scientist, with a PhD in chemistry and over 25 years in the pharmaceutic...
"They could have done this on any cold virus" - Kevin McKernan on PCR deception
October 26, 2020 23:00 - 56 minutes - 39 MBI speak with founder and CSO of Medicinal Genomics, Kevin McKernan, about some of the problems with PCR testing, as well as some of the incentives to produce high positive test numbers, both of which are making it difficult to get a meaningful picture of SARS-Cov2 infections and cases. You can find Kevin on Twitter, and he recently Tweeted about some of these issues here. The paper on molecular mimicry that he mentions is here. The CMS document that spells out penalties for failure to re...
Swedish MD Sebastian Rushworth on why the herd immunity question is not as simple as it appears
October 19, 2020 17:00 - 30 minutes - 21.1 MBI speak with Swedish ER doctor Sebastian Rushworth, about the workings of the immune system and Covid-19. Among other insights: The media (and much of research) focuses on antibodies, but T-cell immunity may be better suited to viral infections; antibodies always wane over time, this is nothing new; the evidence shows that the lockdowns have had no effect on transmission; as the data piles up, it is becoming clear that Covid-19 is indeed very much like a bad flu virus in terms of deaths. Oh,...
Jeremy Hammond: Central planning is just as deadly in public health as anywhere else.
October 17, 2020 20:00 - 41 minutes - 28.8 MBI speak with independent journalist Jeremy Hammond about the problems of central planning and why it always leads to disastrous outcomes - even in the realm of public health. We also talk about why it is more important than ever to develop the skill of consuming news intelligently. You can find Jeremy's writing on topics from the middle east to vaccine safety and the responses to Covid-19, here.
How the Great Barrington Declaration Came to Be, with AIER's Jeff Tucker
October 13, 2020 20:00 - 35 minutes - 17.1 MBI speak with Jeffrey Tucker of the American Institute of Ecomonic Research, about the Great Barrington Declaration - the document created by four esteemed scientists, calling for an end to the lockdowns. Jeff talks about how the idea came about, and about some of the backlash they have faced since the Declaration was released. You can read–and sign–the Great Barrington Declaration here. You can watch the video about the Declaration here. See coverage of some of the attacks on the Declarat...
Sara Brady on resisting tyranny
October 12, 2020 20:00 - 56 minutes - 38.7 MBI speak again with Sara Brady, the Idaho mom who was arrested for being on a playground. I spoke with Sara back in May, not long after she had been arrested for "trespassing" in a public park. In this interview, we talk about what is next for her case, and about what each one of us must do if we value our own liberty and a free society. You can purchase one of Sara's Freedom Masks by emailing her: [email protected] And you can support her legal defense here.
Connor Boyack: Fighting the war for our children's minds
October 06, 2020 01:00 - 30 minutes - 21 MBI speak with Connor Boyack, author of the Tuttle Twins series. He talks about the war that is being waged for our children's minds, why independent thinking is so critical, and gives some positive inspiration for communicating the philosophy of liberty. You can find the Tuttle Twins books here. Connor's Libertas Institute is here. And the book by Milton Meyer, "They Thought They Were Free" is here.
"Propaganda does not want any argument." A conversation with NYU Professor Mark Crispin Miller
September 28, 2020 20:00 - 1 hour - 70.7 MBNYU media studies professor, Mark Crispin Miller, recently came under attack for questioning the official narrative on masks in his class on propaganda. We discuss what happened, and talk about the nature of propaganda and why, after all this time, it is still so effective You can find Professor Miller here - and I recommend subscribing to his newsletter for some quality selections of content that is censored elsewhere. ...and you can support his work here. Professor Miller's essay "Maski...
"Trump, Minneapolis, and the Divided State of America" - Independent journalist & filmmaker Brandon Ferdig talks about his latest documentary
September 26, 2020 00:00 - 57 minutes - 39.4 MBI speak with independent journalist and filmmaker Brandon Ferdig, about what's really going on in Minneapolis in the aftermath of the riots, and about his upcoming documentary about why our society seems more divided than ever before. One year ago, the polarization of American politics was on vivid display at Trump's re-election kick-off event in Minneapolis. Here Brandon Ferdig interviewed eager attendees and angry demonstrators; he captured the protests outside and scenes from the rally f...
Ivor Cummins on Pushing Back Against the Lockdowns, What to Expect in the Fall, & Why Information on Vitamin D is Being Censored
September 15, 2020 20:00 - 55 minutes - 38.1 MBI speak with Ivor Cummins about how he has helped to push back against the lockdowns in Ireland - possibly with success - about what we should expect to see in the fall, and why the FDA is actively censoring information about the use of Vitamin D to protect against Covid-19. Here in the US, it's easy to feel like those of us who care about medical freedom are helpless in the face of the pharmaceutical industry's influence over government and the media. Things are a little different in other...
Want to fight the lockdowns? Send your sheriff to Virginia this month!
September 03, 2020 03:00 - 25 minutes - 17.5 MBSheriff Richard Mack, of the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association, joins me to talk about the Sheriffs' Conference in Lynchburg Virginia on September 30th. He says it could be the most important meeting in America since the Constitutional Convention. Listen to the episode to find out why. Sheriff Mack also talks about CSPOA's online constitutional training seminar, a six-week certification course that gives people the tools they need to fight for liberty locally and across...
Are Immigration Restrictions Libertarian? With Todd Seavey
August 26, 2020 21:00 - 50 minutes - 34.8 MBI speak with long-time libertarian writer Todd Seavey, about whether libertarians should support restrictions on immigration, what "defund the police" doesn't mean... and Rod Serling's contribution to liberty. Todd's recent article on immigration restrictions can be found here. His earlier immigration article can be found here. And his article on the "Defund the Police" movement is here. His book, "Libertarianism for Beginners" is here. I recommend buying multiple copies, before Amazon r...
Ryan McMaken on Covid-19 Fearmongering
August 22, 2020 01:00 - 40 minutes - 28.1 MBI speak with Mises Institute Senior Editor, Ryan McMaken, about the media's fact-free assault on Sweden and other fearmongering about Covid-19. We also talk about why it might be more important than you think to go out and get a beer with friends. You can find Ryan's writing here. His article "The Media's Jihad Against Sweden's No-Lockdown Policy Ignores Key Facts" is here. His article "The COVID Panic Is a Lesson in Using Statistics to Get Your Way in Politics" is here. The article we m...
Daniel McAdams: What does totalitarian rule really look like?
August 13, 2020 00:00 - 32 minutes - 22.7 MBI speak with the director of the Ron Paul Institute, Daniel McAdams, about his time spent in Hungary when it was still part of the former Soviet Union. He has some valuable insights about what life under a totalitarian state is really like, and how we can recover society one human interaction at a time. The Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity Reporting on the protests in Berlin
Celeste McGovern: Why we should be very concerned about a Covid-19 vaccine
August 11, 2020 23:00 - 39 minutes - 27.1 MBI speak with writer Celeste McGovern about the efforts to create a vaccine for Covid-19. McGovern has been writing about vaccines for many years and recently wrote a piece outlining some of the major problems we should expect to see - and in some cases have already seen - with the coming Covid-19 vaccines. Celeste's article is here. What Doctors Don't Tell You is here. Some of the groups Celeste mentions: Vaccine Choice Canada Children's Health Defense Also: the Informed Consent Action...
Sheriff Mack: What to Do About Tyrants
August 10, 2020 20:00 - 29 minutes - 20.1 MBI speak with Sheriff Richard Mack, the founder of the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association, about the unprecedented tyranny that we are now living under, and what we can do to fight it. Sheriff Mack explains how county sheriffs may be our best defense against tyrannical authorities at city, state and federal levels, and what each of us can do to help build this defense. You can learn more about Sheriff Mack's organization, become a member, and/or donate to support this cri...
Marc Victor and "the world's only peace movement"
August 10, 2020 01:00 - 32 minutes - 22.4 MBI talk with Attorney for Freedom, Marc Victor, about my dad's influence on his thinking and his life, some of his latest lawsuits against tyrants, the Live and Let Live movement... and why he is optimistic about the future. Live and Let Live.org The website dedicated to my dad: ButlerShaffer.com Marc's lawfirm: Attorneys for Freedom.
Rachel Mills on what we can learn from Haiti & how to best help those in developing countries
July 29, 2020 00:00 - 50 minutes - 34.8 MBI speak with Ron Paul's former communications director, Rachel Mills, about her chidhood experience in Haiti, what she learned about poverty, racism and social systems. She also tells us what we can do to truly help people in underdevelolped countries. Find Rachel here. The film she mentions: Poverty, Inc.
Peggy Hall on Unlawful Government "Orders"
July 16, 2020 22:00 - 1 hour - 42.9 MBI speak with educator and activist, Peggy Hall, about the legality (or lack thereof) of CA Governor Newsom's "orders" to shut down businesses and force people to wear masks. We also talk about what increasingly appears to be an executive-branch takeover of the government in California, and what you can do to stop it. Peggy's website: The Healthy American. You can see Peggy's videos here. A book everyone should read: Life and Death in Shanghai. The New California State, which Peggy talks ...
James Maskell on finding health through functional medicine
July 15, 2020 23:00 - 45 minutes - 31.1 MBI speak with entrepreneur and "serial founder in the functional medicine space", James Maskell, about how he came to see the impact of lifestyle choices on health, and on burdening the healthcare system. He also tells listeners how they can find functional medicine practitioners matched to their specific needs, through his service "FindFunctional.com." FindFunctional.com The Immune Resiliance Challenge James on Twitter
Kerry McDonald on her debate with the Harvard prof who wants a "presumtive ban on homeschooling"
July 06, 2020 22:00 - 39 minutes - 27 MBI speak with homeschooling mom and advocate, Kerry McDonald, about her recent debate with Harvard's Elizabeth Bartholet, who has called for a "presumptive ban on homeschooling." You can see the debate here. Kerry's debrief of the debate is here.
Jeff Tucker on Censorship of the Covid-19 Conversation
June 28, 2020 23:00 - 58 minutes - 40.5 MBI speak with Jeff Tucker, Editorial Director of the American Institute of Economic Research, about censorship of AIER's content on Amazon and Facebook, the dysfunctional nature of that censorship, and what it took for him to stop taking mainstream media seriously. The American Institute of Economic Research "Woodstock Occurred in the Middle of a Pandemic" - the article that was "fact checked". Coronavirus and Economic Crisis - AIER's book that was suppressed by Amazon. My article from l...
JJ Pavoni: From F-15 Pilot to Anarchocapitalist Conscientious Objector
June 24, 2020 02:00 - 38 minutes - 26.3 MBI speak with JJ Pavoni, former US Air Force pilot turned conscientious objector, about his philosophical transformation, the role of the Federal Reserve in war and peace, and what he would say to individuals serving in the military or police today. JJ and his wife were on the Tom Woods Show in 2015. You can listen here.
Chris Calton on Defunding the police, and what institutionalized racism really means
June 15, 2020 21:00 - 53 minutes - 36.4 MBI speak with history student Chris Calton about everything from the difference between private police and "policing" as we know it, to what "institutionalized racism" really looks like. Did you know that not only are African Americans disproportionately represented in the prison population, but that the proportion of African Americans in prison has RISEN over time, and is continuing to rise??? Chris offers some powerful insights into why that is, and a vivid picture of how "policing" is ...
Jeremy Hammond on the Great Mask Debate
June 15, 2020 21:00 - 39 minutes - 26.9 MBIndependent journalist Jeremy R. Hammond provides some much-needed perspective on the contentious topic of masks as protection against Covid-19. Jeremy wrote recently about the mask issue here. His website is here.
Kerry McDonald on Homeschooling and the "New Normal"
June 09, 2020 20:00 - 36 minutes - 25.2 MBI speak with Kerry McDonald, unschooling mom and vocal advocate of homeschooling, about how governments may have inadvertantly sparked a homeschooling revolution, and about what homeschooling families can do to continue giving their children "old normal" lives. Kerry McDonald is a Senior Education Fellow at FEE and author of Unschooled: Raising Curious, Well-Educated Children Outside the Conventional Classroom (Chicago Review Press, 2019). She is also an adjunct scholar at The Cato Institut...
Jim Bovard on holding the state accountable for its crimes
June 05, 2020 23:00 - 33 minutes - 23 MBI speak with the great Jim Bovard, about his recent article "Will the Political Class Be Held Liable for What They've Done?" the question of holding the state accountable for its crimes against the rest of us. Jim has been chronicling the abuses of the US state for decades, and has written for numerous publications including the Wall Street Journal, Playboy, the New Republic and USA Today. His books include: The Farm Fiasco (1989) Lost Rights (1994) Freedom in Chains (1999) Terrorism an...
Rosemary Frei on what to expect next on the path to totalitarianism
June 04, 2020 01:00 - 19 minutes - 13.7 MBI speak with Rosemary Frei, MSc, molecular biology; medical journalist for 22 years and now an investigative journalist, about her article from back in March, "Where's the Evidence Supporting the Drastic Measures Against COVID-19?" We talk about the extent to which what we're living through today was simulated last October with Event 201, what's coming next, and what we can do to stop it. Rosemary has also written "The Seven-Step Path from Pandemic to Totalitarianism", and you can find he...
Brandon Ferdig on the Minneapolis Riots, and the role of shallow conversation in fueling unrest
May 31, 2020 18:00 - 37 minutes - 25.9 MBI speak with Twin Cities writer and videographer Brandon Ferdig, about what he is seeing in Minneapolis now, and about how the quality of our conversations plays a role in feeding–or not feeding–unrest and violence. Brandon can be reached at [email protected] You can see his videos (including his documentary on homelessness in Minnesota) on his YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/NewPlateaus/videos Here is the interview he mentions, with the mother and fiancee of the youn...
"Where Do We Draw Our Line in the Sand?" A Conversation with Sara Brady
May 26, 2020 23:00 - 21 minutes - 15 MBI talk with Sara Brady, the Idaho mom who was arrested for "trespassing" on a park playground that had been closed off as part of that state's lockdown measures. We discuss what happened on that day, her upcoming court battle, and a question each of us needs to be asking ourselves in these times: Where do we draw the line against tyranny? The video of what happened is here. News coverage is here. And you can contribute to Sara's legal defense here.
Jeremy Hammond on how draconian responses to Covid-19 are an opportunity for health-freedom advocates
May 26, 2020 03:00 - 46 minutes - 32.1 MBI speak with independent journalist Jeremy R. Hammond about the nonsensical and devastating government actions in response to Covid-19, why a vaccine may not be the answer, and the opportunity this represents for educating about health freedom and problems with medical orthodoxy. You can find Jeremy's work here. And you can see his recent series of videos on Covid-19 here.
The Freedom Angels get ready to bring some love to Sacramento
May 20, 2020 19:00 - 5 minutes - 3.97 MBThe Freedom Angels are moms, and long-time activists for health freedom. I spoke with them briefly today about the power of peaceful protest against the lockdowns, and about their event this coming Saturday (May 32rd) in Sacramento: Liberty Fest. For information on attending Liberty Fest, to donate to help support the event, or to learn more about the Freedom Angels, go here. Earlier this month, I spoke with some others who had been at the May 1st demonstrations.
The Tenth Amendment Center's Michael Boldin on People Taking Back Their Power
May 12, 2020 22:00 - 30 minutes - 20.7 MBI talk with Michael Boldin about how we can use the principles of the Tenth Amendment center to take back our freedom. Links: The Tenth Amendment Center “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.” The Tenth Amendment Center Report Electronic Frontier Foundation Electronic Frontier Foundation's "Surveillance Self Defense" guide: Tips, tools and how-tos for safer online ...
"There's Never Been A Police Presence Like That Before." (End the lockdown protests in Sacramento, May 1st)
May 05, 2020 23:00 - 31 minutes - 21.5 MBI speak with Heather and Daniel, both of whom participated in the protests last Friday (May 1st 2020) against the lockdown of California. They talk about the unprecedented police presence and arrests of peaceful demonstrators. One of the videos mentioned in the interview, of the former Marine who (apparently) talked the police officers down, is here.
Kevin McKernan on Covid-19: It's origins, how it may be changing the research process for the better, and why a vaccine is not a good solution.
May 02, 2020 01:00 - 36 minutes - 25.1 MBCSO of Medicinal Genomics, Kevin McKernan, explains why Covid-19 may have been with us for much longer than we've thought; how the desire for information is pushing people to bypass peer review - maybe for something better, and why looking to a vaccine as a solution is a terrible idea. Links from the discussion: Preprint site, BioRxiv Preprint site, MedRxiv Nextstrain The Braun, et al paper he mentions And you can find Kevin at: Medicinal Genomics Kevin McKernan on Twitter Kevin McK...
Kevin McKernan on Revolutionizing Peer Review
April 14, 2020 22:00 - 1 hour - 43.4 MBI speak with Kevin McKernan, CSO of Medicinal Genomics, about some of the problems with the peer review process, and how blockchain technology can provide a solution. Links discussed in the episode: Nature Biotech article Cannabis Genomic Blockchain on DASH Cryptocurrency Incentivized, Blockchain Recorded Peer Review (CIBR)
WTMWD - Episode 5: Talking With Ernie Hancock About Covid-19, Vitamin C, the Total State... and This Show
April 01, 2020 21:00 - 1 hour - 55.4 MBLast week, I was a guest on Ernie Hancock's Show "Declare Your Independence." We talked about Covid-19, about the official suppression of information on vitamin C as a treatment, about the devastating total-state response, and about what to do about Internet censorship. ...and we also talked about this show. If you don't already know Ernie, you should. You can find him on Freedom's Phoenix, on his show, Declare Your Independence, and Pirates Without Borders. Enjoy!