#WeNeedToTalk
202 episodes - English - Latest episode: 7 months ago - ★★★★★ - 69 ratings#WeNeedToTalk is hosted by singer and activist Malynda Hale. Leading with the motto that everything begins with a conversation, #WeNeedToTalk is centered around heartfelt one on one conversations, with an emphasis on social justice, politics, religion, society, and culture. Listeners will enjoy meaningful discussions with Malynda and a variety of special guests.
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Episodes
Episode 8-Asha Dahya
March 07, 2022 14:00 - 31 minutes - 50.6 MBOn this episode of #WeNeedToTalk, Malynda chats with Author, Speaker and Human Rights Activist Asha Dahya. The two have an indepth discussion about choosing the life of an activist, differences in perception based on where you are from, having your voice heard as a female, why speaking out as Pro-choice is important and how people who want to use their voice can start. Asha Dahya is an author, TEDx speaker and founder of GirlTalkHQ.com Asha was born in the UK, raised in Australia, an...
#WeNeedToTalk- Reverend Dr. Jacqui Lewis
February 28, 2022 13:00 - 31 minutes - 51.4 MBOn this episode of #WeNeedToTalk Malynda welcome Senior Pastor of Middle Church New York, Reverend Dr. Jacqui Lewis. They talk about her journey in affirming ministry, current struggles within the Christian faith, reconciling with racism and white supremacy within the church being in an interracial relationship, and her new book Fierce love. A powerful conversation that must be heard! Rev. Jacqui Lewis, Ph.D. uses her gifts as author, activist, preacher, public theologian toward cr...
Episode 7- Reverend Dr. Jacqui Lewis
February 28, 2022 13:00 - 31 minutes - 51.4 MBOn this episode of #WeNeedToTalk Malynda welcome Senior Pastor of Middle Church New York, Reverend Dr. Jacqui Lewis. They talk about her journey in affirming ministry, current struggles within the Christian faith, reconciling with racism and white supremacy within the church being in an interracial relationship, and her new book Fierce love. A powerful conversation that must be heard! Rev. Jacqui Lewis, Ph.D. uses her gifts as author, activist, preacher, public theologian toward crea...
#WeNeedToTalk- President Day
February 21, 2022 12:00 - 1 minute - 1.66 MB#WeNeedToTalk will Return on February 28th! Follow #WeNeedToToTalk on all social media. Theme Song written and produced by Steven James
Episode 6- Martin Henson
February 14, 2022 14:00 - 28 minutes - 44.3 MBOn this episode of #WeNeedToTalk, Malynda chats with Activist, Organizer and Public Speaker Martin Henson. They chat about societal views of the Black community, different forms of activism, his work bridging the gap with Black Men and the Trans Community, how white supremacy fuels all aspects of soceity, and why he started his foundation BMEN that focuses on healthy conversations with Black men surrounding mental health, mascunlitiy, sexuality, homophobia and more. Martin has spent the last...
#WeNeedToTalk- Martin Henson
February 14, 2022 14:00 - 28 minutes - 44.3 MBOn this episode of #WeNeedToTalk, Malynda chats with Activist, Organizer and Public Speaker Martin Henson. They chat about societal views of the Black community, different forms of activism, his work bridging the gap with Black Men and the Trans Community, how white supremacy fuels all aspects of soceity, and why he started his foundation BMEN that focuses on healthy conversations with Black men surrounding mental health, mascunlitiy, sexuality, homophobia and more. Martin has spent the la...
#WeNeedToTalk- Dr. Omolara
February 07, 2022 15:00 - 30 minutes - 51.1 MBOn this episode of #WeNeedToTalk, Malynda chats with Pediatrician and Social Impact Entrepreneur Dr. Omolara. They chat about the lack of Black female medical professionals, racism in the medical industry, obstacles she's faced and what led her to create Melanin and Medicine. Dr. Omolara Thomas Uwemedimo is a business development and funding coach for women of color in healthcare and serial entrepreneur, growing 2 companies to multi-six figures in revenue in less than 18 months. During ...
Episode 5- Dr. Omolara
February 07, 2022 15:00 - 30 minutes - 51.1 MBOn this episode of #WeNeedToTalk, Malynda chats with Pediatrician and Social Impact Entrepreneur Dr. Omolara. They chat about the lack of Black female medical professionals, racism in the medical industry, obstacles she's faced and what led her to create Melanin and Medicine. Dr. Omolara Thomas Uwemedimo is a business development and funding coach for women of color in healthcare and serial entrepreneur, growing 2 companies to multi-six figures in revenue in less than 18 months. During he...
Episode 4- Eric Feltes
January 31, 2022 12:00 - 32 minutes - 53.9 MBOn Episode 4 of #WeNeedToTalk Malynda chats with Actor and Life Coach Eric Feltes. The two chat about spiritual growth, identity discovery, and how his experience with church trauma led him to create a safe space for other Gay men to free themselves and know that God loves them for who they are. Through creativity, courage and authenticity, Eric Feltes cultivates connection and tells stories in order to inspire others to love themselves and the world around them. In his professional life, he ...
#WeNeedToTalk- Eric Feltes
January 31, 2022 12:00 - 32 minutes - 53.9 MBOn Episode 4 of #WeNeedToTalk Malynda chats with Actor and Life Coach Eric Feltes. The two chat about spiritual growth, identity discovery, and how his experience with church trauma led him to create a safe space for other Gay men to free themselves and know that God loves them for who they are. Through creativity, courage and authenticity, Eric Feltes cultivates connection and tells stories in order to inspire others to love themselves and the world around them. In his professional life, he...
Episode 3: Temima Shames
January 24, 2022 15:00 - 28 minutes - 40.9 MBOn Episode 3 of #WeNeedToTalk, Malyn da chats with Entreprenuer and Talent Manager, Temima Shames, The chat about the hardships of being a female entrepreneur, how her childhood gave her a strong work ethic, how its important to talk about the journey of getting to sucess and why she chose to start her own company. Temima is the CEO & Founder of Next Step Talent. She hopes to inspire other aspiring entrepreneurs to follow her lead and take a chance at any age. From a young age herself, ...
Episode 2: Inez Ribustello
January 17, 2022 15:00 - 33 minutes - 51.4 MBOn Episode 2 Malynda chats with former Windows on the World employee Inez Ribustello. They chat about her narrowly missing 9/11, how 20 years later she has managed to heal, and her new memoir Life after Windows that chronicles her life in New York before, during and after 9/11. Eastern North Carolina native, Inez Ribustello, got her start in the world of food and wine after moving to New York City to pursue a career in cooking. Her wine career took a huge leap forward when she became an ...
Episode 1- Terron Brooks
January 10, 2022 15:00 - 34 minutes - 64.4 MB#WeNeedToTalk is back for its 6th Season! On the first episode of the season, Malynda chats with Broadway Veteran and Singer/Songwriter Terron Brooks. The two chat about what the new year means, how faith plays a part in his life as a performer, how he handles rejection, and why he's focusing on who he wants to be this year rather than what he wants to accomplish. Terron Brooks has traveled many roads in his life and career. He welcomed 2021 by signing a deal with Mercia Records with dist...
#WeNeedToTalk- Season 6 Trailer
January 07, 2022 15:00 - 44 seconds - 1.35 MB#WeNeedToTalk Returns on January 10th! Don't miss it! Hosted by Malynda Hale Theme song written & produced by Steven James Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Youtube and Stitcher!
#WeNeedToTalk-Faith & Politics Part 4: John Pavlovitz
December 06, 2021 15:00 - 32 minutes - 55.4 MBOn the final episode of #WeNeedToTalk-Faith & Politics, Malynda chats with her friend Author and Pastor John Pavlovitz. They discuss the current voice of Christianity, the lack of progressive Faith figures, how we can reclaim Christianity, and his new book If God is Love, Don't be a Jerk. John Pavlovitz is a writer, pastor, and activist from Wake Forest, North Carolina. A 25-year veteran in the trenches of local church ministry, John is committed to equality, diversity, and justice—both i...
#WeNeedToTalk-Faith & Politics Part 3:Reverend Denyse Barnes
November 29, 2021 15:00 - 33 minutes - 57.9 MBOn Part 3 of #WeNeedToTalk, Malynda chats with Reverend Denyse Barnes. They discuss the differences in political and religious culture in The UK and the US. Why going into ministry was so important to her and what her goals for the church are in terms of how it plays a role in politics. Rev. Denyse is appointed as senior pastor to Crescenta Valley UMC effective July 1st 2021. She is also appointed as Associate Director of Justice and Compassion Ministries to the California Pacific Annual...
#WeNeedToTalk-Faith & Politics Part 2: Brent Hodge
November 22, 2021 15:00 - 36 minutes - 62.2 MBOn Part 2 of Faith & Politics Malynda chats with Brent Hodge about his 25+ years in full time ministry and what caused him to leave. They discuss his experience in the evangelical church, how politics made its way into the pulpit, and what serving as a Christian truly looks like. Brent Hodge has been in Full time ministry for 25 years. His experiences ranges from co-planting churches and working as a Worship/Creative Director. For the last year and a half, he was the Pastor at a church in ...
#WeNeedToTalk-Faith & Politics Part 1: Dr. Cornel West
November 15, 2021 15:00 - 47 minutes - 85.7 MBOn Part 1 of #WeNeedtoTalk-Faith & Politics, Malynda chats with Professor, Philosopher, Author and Activist Dr. Cornel West. The two chat about the intersection between faith and politics. Cornel West is a prominent and provocative democratic intellectual. He is the Dietrich Bonhoeffer Professor of Philosophy and Christian Practice at Union Theological Seminary and holds the title of Professor Emeritus at Princeton University. He has also taught at Union Theological Seminary, Yale, Harvard...
#WeNeedToTalk-Motherhood:Part 6- Adaire Byerly
November 08, 2021 15:00 - 36 minutes - 57.7 MBOn the final episode of the #WeNeedToTalk-Motherhood Series, Malynda welcomes back Behavioral Scientist and CEO of Entertainment Mindframe Adaire Byerly to talk about her motherhood journey as an entrepreneur and single mom. They chat about the societal view of working moms, raising a Black son and how she balances career and motherhood. Adaire Byerly is based in Houston, TX and the Founder and CEO of Entertainment Mindframe.
#WeNeedToTalk-Motherhood:Part 5- Gabrielle Sullivan
November 01, 2021 14:07 - 37 minutes - 60.4 MBOn this episode of #WeNeedToTalk Motherhood, Malynda sits down with her longtime friend Gabrielle Sullivan. They discuss going through pregnancy, the "right time" to have a child, the stigma behind breastfeeding, why cultural awareness is so important and how she pushed through her grief in order to put her child's needs first. Gabrielle Taryn is a momma, wife, singer and songwriter. She is also a mental health advocate and strives to end the stigma surrounding it. Gabrielle’s music can be...
#WeNeedToTalk-Motherhood:Part 4- DeAna Crosson
October 25, 2021 14:00 - 30 minutes - 49.4 MBOn this episode of #WeNeedToTalk-Motherhood, Malynda chats with single mom of 3, DeAna Crosson. They discuss the negative perceptions of single mothers, how she survived medical negligence during her second pregnancy, what being raised by a single mom taught her, and her experience raising three kids on her own. DeAna is a single mom of one teenager and toddler twins based in the Pacific Northwest. She is striving everyday to show her daughters how to be strong Black women.
#WeNeedToTalk-Motherhood:Part 3- Sara Alvarez Kleinsmith
October 18, 2021 14:00 - 31 minutes - 50.5 MBOn this episode of #WeNeedToTalk-Motherhood, Malynda chats with Sara Alvarez Kleinsmith about her experience with post partum depression. They also discuss the importance of asking for help, what it's like raising mixed race children and why cultural awareness is important. Sara Kleinsmith is a writer, producer, and mother who lives in Austin, Texas. Her writing has centered on Latinx issues and parenthood.
#WeNeedToTalk-Motherhood:Part 2- Lesley Miller
October 11, 2021 14:00 - 31 minutes - 51.7 MBOn Part 2 of #WeNeedToTalk-Motherhood, Malynda chats with writer and mom of 3 Lesley Miller about her family dynamic throughout the pandemic, her families health history of surviving cancer twice ( her son and husband), why she continues to encourage people to get the Covid Vaccine and what it truly means to love your neighbor. Lesley Sebek Miller lives in Santa Barbara, CA with her husband and three children. She's a writer, grad school student, and recently "retired" homeschool teacher....
#WeNeedToTalk-Motherhood: Part 1-Savana Beal
October 04, 2021 14:00 - 39 minutes - 67.4 MBOn Part 1 of the #WeNeedToTalk Motherhood series, Malynda chats with mom of 2, Savana Beal. Savana offers her perspective on raising a child with special needs, navigating the world of disability rights and learning how to advocate for her youngest son who was born with a rare genetic disorder. After he turned one, he was officially diagnosed. There are less than 60 cases of his disease in the world, so it has been a very lonely road. It’s a journey she never thought she would be on,...
#WeNeedToTalk- Check In
September 27, 2021 14:00 - 1 minute - 2.04 MB#WeNeedToTalk Returns January 2022 but get ready for two brand new mini series. #WeNeedToTalk-Motherhood and #WeNeedToTalk-Faith and Politics.
One on One with Azariah Southworth & Daniel Franzese (Hosts of Yass, Jesus Podcast)
September 09, 2021 14:00 - 46 minutes - 89.1 MBOn the final episode of Season 5, Malynda is joined Yass, Jesus podcast Hosts, Daniel Franzese (Actor, Mean Girls, Looking) and Azariah Southworth (former host, The Remix on TBN). They talk about their personal journey's, how they knew God loved them, why they didn't walk away from God, and why they created a faith and sexuality affirming podcast that believes you don't have to pick between being Gay and loving God. Such a beautiful and powerful conversation!
One on One with United Stages Collective. ( Sam Cook, Madison Prince and Matt Coleman)
September 06, 2021 14:00 - 33 minutes - 64.2 MBOn this episode of #WeNeedToTalk, Malynda chats with the founders of United Stages Collective, Sam Cook, Madison Prince and Matt Coleman. They talk about the purpose behind United Stages collective, culturally what they want to bring to the states, the need for representation within Indigenous and Aboriginal communities and what the future holds. United stages collective is aiming to bring aboriginal Australian creative excellence to Hollywood. Their goal is to bring a different perspectiv...
One on One with Zarna Garg
September 02, 2021 14:00 - 30 minutes - 57.5 MBOn this episode of #WeNeedToTalk Malynda is joined by Comedian Zarna Garg. The two chat about her culture, her journey from India to America, how she found her way into comedy and her view of America. Raised in Bombay and living in multiple countries throughout the world, Zarna made her way to the United States at the age of 16. After losing her mother at 14 and facing the choice of an arranged marriage or leaving, she journeyed to America on her own. Her experience immigrating from India...
One on One with Nikki DeLoach
August 30, 2021 14:00 - 34 minutes - 66.9 MBOn this episode of #WeNeedToTalk, Malynda chats with Actress and Philanthropist Nikki DeLoach. They chat about her early start in the industry as an original 90's Mickey Mouse Club member, her reason for being an avid supporter of Children's Hospital LA and The Alzheimer Association, being open about her postpartum journey, and how she found her way to being a leading lady on the Hallmark Channel. Born in a small town in South Georgia, Nikki DeLoach always knew she wanted to be an entert...
One on one with Clark Moore
August 26, 2021 14:00 - 50 minutes - 97.3 MBOn this episode of #WeNeedToTalk, Malynd chats with writer/actor and podcast host Clark Moore. The two have an in depth conversation surrounding the entertainment industry, race, content from the 90's and more. An invigorating conversation you want to hear! Clark is a Georgia native. He is most known for his breakout role of "Ethan" in the hit Fox 2000 LGBT Teen rom-com, "Love, Simon" and for his recurring role of "AJ" on the CW's critically-acclaimed musical comedy "Crazy Ex-Girlfriend...
One on One with Saje Nicole
August 23, 2021 14:00 - 28 minutes - 53.7 MBOn this episode of #WeNeedToTalk Malynda chats with Curve model and Actress Saje Nicole. The two talk about the body positivity movement, why it's important to find representatives for your career that align with your beliefs, and how the industry is working to change the perception of what beauty truly is. Saje Nicole is a Model and Actress that is currently a finalist in the Sports Illustrated Swim Search 2021! She recently walked in Rihanna’s Savage X Fenty Vol. 2 Runway Show and can be...
One on One with Alisha Gaddis
August 19, 2021 14:00 - 35 minutes - 67.5 MBOn this episode of #WeNeedToTalk, Malynda chat with Emmy Award and Grammy Award Winning Artists Alisha Gaddis. They talk about applying activism to your artistry, the dynamic in her family life, how she maintains her mental health and sense of self, and what let her to write her book Mama's Milk and Me. ALISHA GADDIS is an Emmy Award Winner (multiple nominations), multi Grammy Award Winner, writer, actress, best selling author, and producer based in Los Angeles. She is a graduate of New Yo...
One On One with David Hernandez
August 16, 2021 15:36 - 30 minutes - 56.9 MBOn this episode of #WeNeedToTalk, Malynda chats with American Idol alum David Hernandez. The two chat about his career journey, how coming out in 2016 affected his life and trajectory, what he learned about himself during the pandemic, and how important it is to stay humble. David Hernandez gained national attention with his dynamic voice and affable personality as an American Idol finalist. A true self-made artist with the potential to transcend any genre, David is a force to be reckoned...
One on one with Adaire Byerly
August 12, 2021 14:00 - 37 minutes - 71.3 MBOn this episode of #WeNeedToTalk, Malynda chats with CEO, Model and Behavioral Scientist Adaire Byerly. The two chat about the creation of her company Entertainment Mindest, how she uses science to get to the root of company communication issues, and why she enjoys working with creative minds the most. As the CEO/Founder of Entertainment Mindframe™, Adaire is hired by major Fashion, Sports and Entertainment companies to enhance their internal communication. Adaire does this by utilizing m...
One on One with Connor Smith
August 09, 2021 14:00 - 31 minutes - 60 MBOn this episode of #WeNeedToTalk, Malynda chats with Vocalist Connor Smith. The two chat about his journey of self discovery and identity, his past relationship with the church as a member of the LGBTQ community, his career and the recent Netflix documentary "Pray Away". “You may not have heard his name before, but chances are you’ve heard his voice.” As a studio singer, arranger, and music producer Connor Smith has collaborated on a wide-breadth of major motion pictures, television sh...
#WeNeedToTalk-Be Right Back!
August 05, 2021 14:00 - 1 minute - 2.06 MB10 more episodes left of Season 5 for #WeNeedToTalk! We will be back on Monday with a brand new episode!
One on One with Amy Argyle
August 02, 2021 14:00 - 44 minutes - 85.1 MBOn this episode of #WeNeedToTalk, Malynda chats with her longtime friend, Actress Amy Argyle. The two chat about mental health, navigating the industry and world as a Black Female, privilege, the lack of empathy towards the Black community and more. Amy Argyle brings a grounded honesty and personal spark to all of her roles.Having started her career in Dallas, Amy has continued here in LA the last 17 years. She’s appeared in over 100 commercials, several popular tv shows and studio and...
One on One with Ann Thomas
July 29, 2021 14:00 - 41 minutes - 79.8 MBOn this episode of #WeNeedToTalk Malynda chats with Founder of Transgender Talent, Hollywoods first talent management company that exclusively represents transgender and non-binary talent. Malynda and Ann talk about her journey to self discovery, what led her to start the agency, what needs to change in Hollywood and what stereotypes of the Transgender community she wants to change. Transgender Talent was founded in 2015 offering a safe and encouraging environment that fosters the talent o...
One on One w/ Malynda Hale
July 26, 2021 14:00 - 22 minutes - 43.8 MBOn todays episode of #WeNeedToTalk Malynda flies solo and chats about things that she feels we should be talking about. Jeff Bezos, Cannabis, Tommy Bryant and Self Worth. Listen to this in depth and vulnerable episode!
#WeNeedToTalk- Mental Health Day
July 22, 2021 14:03 - 38 seconds - 1.21 MB#WeNeedToTalk will return on Monday with a brand new episode! Make sure you subscribe and join the patreon community if you'd like to support further visit patreon.com/malyndahale
One on one with Dr. Pamela Gurley
July 19, 2021 14:00 - 39 minutes - 75.5 MBOn this episode of #WeNeedToTalk, Malynda chats with Author and Army Veteran Dr. Pamela Gurley. The two chat about the challenges of being a Black female in America, breaking down stereotypes that plague the Black community, what representation means and her new children's book series Brown Girl, Brown Boy.
One on one with Elisa Donovan
July 15, 2021 14:00 - 36 minutes - 70.3 MBOn this episode of #WeNeedToTalk Malynda Chats with Actress and Author, Elisa Donovan. The two chat about everything from her career achievements that started in the 90's, navigating the entertainment industry, and her new book “Wake Me When You Leave”. This book is a personal memoir that details how she healed after losing her job, her relationship, and her father to cancer, all over a very short period of time. For over 20 years, Elisa Donovan has been a part of iconic pop culture pheno...
One on One with Michelle Williams
July 12, 2021 14:00 - 33 minutes - 66.1 MBOn this episode of #WeNeedToTalk, Malynda chats with Singer and Actress Michelle Williams. The two talk about her career, her battle with depression, her time on The Masked Singer and her new book Checking in. Michelle Williams is a Grammy Award-winning recording artist and actress who rose to stardom as a member of the R&B mega group, Destiny’s Child, and most recently appeared as the Butterfly on Fox’s hit series, The Masked Singer. Her successful solo albums include Heart to Yours; Do Y...
One on one with Joanne Molinaro
July 08, 2021 14:00 - 37 minutes - 72.6 MBOn this Episode of #WeNeedToTalk, Malynda chats with Joanne Molinaro aka The Korean Vegan. The two chat about her transition into veganism, how food played in a role in her life growing up, sharing her culture with the world, the importance of family and her new cookbook, The Korean Vegan. Joanne Lee Molinaro is a lawyer by day and one of TikTok’s hottest chefs of all time. Late last year, Joanne struck a chord with her stunning videos cooking classic Korean dishes and musings on justic...
#WeNeedToTalk- What is Freedom?
July 05, 2021 14:00 - 4 minutes - 8.03 MBOn this bonus episode of #WeNeedToTalk to talk Malynda reflects on The Fourth of July, what freedom means and Frederick Douglass's famous speech.
One on One with Courtney Nichole
July 01, 2021 14:00 - 43 minutes - 84.2 MBOn this episode of #WeNeedToTalk, Malynda chats with Actress and Social Justice Advocate Courtney Nichole. The two chat about her acting journey, her passion for children's education, knowing when it's time to make a shift in your life, and the importance of body positivity. Courtney Nichole is a Chicago native and multi-faceted actress that is currently starring as a series regular on Tyler Perry’s new comedy series, “Assisted Living”.
One on One with Meredith Bull
June 28, 2021 14:00 - 33 minutes - 65.1 MBOn this episode of #WeNeedToTalk, Malynda chats with Singer and Music producer Meredith Bull. The two chat about the growth of her career through TikTok, how she found her sound, being a woman in the music industry, and her journey to sobriety. Meredith Bull has become a TikTok sensation with over 1-Million followers. Meredith’s videos spotlight her unique ability to make beautiful songs out of quite literally anything. She has so far created soundtracks to both viral and more mundane sou...
One on One with Tanaye White
June 24, 2021 14:00 - 31 minutes - 60.6 MBOn this episode of #WeNeedToTalk, Malynda chats with Sports Illustrated Model and CEO of Elysium Social, Tanaye White.They chat about her journey into modeling, education, representation, natural hair and mental health. A powerful and meaningful conversation. From earning her Master’s Degree at the esteemed Georgetown University and teaching herself how to code, to having the honor of being a Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Model, Tanaye continues to prove she has beauty and brains! After quit...
One on One with Jory Micah
June 21, 2021 14:00 - 41 minutes - 79.4 MBOn this episode Malynda chats with writer, preacher and advocate Jory Micah. The two talk all things religion. They address hypocrisy in the church, progressive Christianity, deconstruction, what Jesus really stood for and her upcoming book Breaking the Glass Steeple. Jory Micah is a writer, preacher and advocate for women in the global Christian Church. She has a Master's Degree in Christian Doctrine and History from Regent University in Virginia Beach and will be releasing her first book...
One on one with Dr. Peace Amadi
June 17, 2021 14:00 - 36 minutes - 69.2 MBOn this episode of #WeNeedToTalk, Malynda chats with professor, speaker, coach and an author. Dr. Peace Amadi. The two chat about what led her to want to help others, overcoming the stigma of talking about mental health, the perception of Black Women with higher education and her new book "Why Do I Feel Like This?" Mental Health Expert Dr. Peace Amadi, PsyD, is a Professor, Author, Speaker, Coach, and TV Host who helps high-potential people heal so they can better lead. From leaders, ...