We Will Get Through This
42 episodes - English - Latest episode: almost 4 years ago - ★★★★★ - 46 ratingsIn difficult times, it's easy to despair.
But all around us are experts who have proven tactics and strategies to stay strong: for ourselves, for our teams and for our organizations. This is a podcast asking the very best in the world how to stay resilient.
This is a podcast that shows us We Will Get Through This.
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End Of Season Two: Where Do We Go From Here?
July 31, 2020 16:00 - 2 minutesThank you for listening this far and meeting some of the amazing people I've had the honour and privilege of talking to. Right now I'm sitting back, imagining what's next. I'd like to take a moment to ask for some feedback and point you in some cool directions for how to engage while we're on a brief break. You're awesome and you're doing great. This show is brought to you by The Advice Trap, Michael Bungay Stanier’s latest book. You can access a wide range of tools to help #TameYourAdviceMo...
Unleash Curiosity With Dr. Shannon Minifie, CEO of Box of Crayons
July 27, 2020 11:00 - 30 minutesI recorded this episode in early July 2020, one year since I stepped away from being CEO of Box of Crayons and handed that responsibility over to today’s guest, Dr. Shannon Minifie. Now, most so-called founder transitions end up on the rocky shores of defeat for two reasons. First, most founders are a little bit like me: kind of neurotic and egotistical and wanting to keep our fingers in the pie. And second, it’s just a really hard thing to hand over an organization that is in many ways an e...
Lead In Extremis With Tom Kolditz, Former Brigadier General
July 20, 2020 11:00 - 30 minutesOne of the phrases that struck me when I was interviewing Tom Kolditz was when he said that “the US military is very egalitarian, very much in a meritocracy. People are expected to never lean on their rank. The rank gives them a certain set of responsibilities. But it doesn't give them any advantage in the framework that we operate in our military.” Tom rose to the rank of Brigadier General, which should give you some sense of his calibre as a leader. I’ve had the chance to get to know him a...
Abandon Vision With Gianpiero Petriglieri, INSEAD Professor
July 16, 2020 11:00 - 28 minutesWhen you ask “what makes a leader?” you will hear back, almost immediately, “vision”. Show us the way! Shine the light! “Without vision, the people perish” or so it’s written... But, perhaps not. What if “vision” was overrated ... and that another leadership behaviour was shown to be much more important? Today I’m speaking to Gianpiero “GP” Petriglieri, Associate Professor of Organizational Behaviour at INSEAD, Europe’s preeminent business school. A recent article of his on HBR.org laid do...
Create White Space With Juliet Funt, Effectiveness Expert
July 13, 2020 11:00 - 30 minutesI’ve been busy all my life. And quite frankly, I’ve enjoyed it. Teetering on over-commitment ...there’s an exhilaration to that. And gosh, I’m tired sometimes. Part of the self-growth work for me right now is creating space in my life to think, to regenerate, to allow what’s next to emerge. And, frankly, I need help because of my lifetime habit of filling my calendar. That’s why I’m talking to Juliet Funt today. Juliet is the CEO of White Space at Work, an organizational efficiency consulta...
Help Others Rise With Shelley Winner, Restorative Justice Advocate
July 09, 2020 11:00 - 43 minutesHard as it is to believe, We Will Get Through This is not the only awesome podcast around here. Really, it’s true. Once a season, I’ll be sharing an episode from another podcast I listen to and admire, and there’s no better place to start than with Dave Stachowiak’s Coaching for Leaders. I’ve been a guest four times, and that’s not a scheduling error on my part. It’s me delighting in being in conversation with a smart, prepared and engaged host. I asked Dave which episode he thought we shou...
Navigate A VUCA World With Bill Carrier, Undercover Coach
July 06, 2020 11:00 - 34 minutesBill Carrier is someone you’ve never heard of. Years ago, as a counterintuitive marketing strategy, he decided that he’d do no marketing. No website. No business card. No social media. You found out about Bill through word of mouth, and word of mouth only. I met him when we both worked with TED Fellows on a retreat, and we had the opportunity to work together. I was struck by his generosity, his big heart, and his wisdom. Bill is a graduate of the United States Military Academy at West Poi...
Consider The Adjacent Possible With Aaron Dignan, Author of Brave New Work
July 02, 2020 11:00 - 37 minutesI hope you enjoyed the conversation with Dave Snowden a few episodes ago. I loved it, although I admit I was a little intimidated by engaging in conversation with someone who has such a sharp mind and who’s thought about the challenges and possibilities of complexity for so long. You might have gotten to the end of that episode and asked ... “and now what?” Let me introduce you to today’s guest. Aaron Dignan is the author of one of the most exciting books that I’ve read in the last number o...
Survive Cancer With Kerry Taylor, Financial Planning Expert
June 29, 2020 11:00 - 29 minutesI originally invited Kerry, today’s guest, because she’s one of the world’s top financial bloggers. Truly. Her blog is one of the most visited websites in the world. But in setting up the call, I discovered that she had another story she could tell in the context of We Will Get Through This. It’s the experience of surviving one of the most virulent forms of breast cancer. Kerry’s an absolute pro at talking to the media ... but not about cancer. So this is a rare and precious conversation. ...
Create Sacred Spaces With Pamay Bassey, CLO of Kraft Heinz
June 25, 2020 11:00 - 30 minutesI hope you’ve had that experience of walking into somewhere special; a place that has a resonance, and a capacity, and a potential. But where does that special something, that sacredness, come from? Is it just a trick of architecture? What role do we have in creating sacred space ... and why would we want to? Pamay Bassey is the CLO of Kraft Heinz and a lifelong learner who loves laughter, words, big ideas and serving her community. She is also the Chief Experience Officer of the My 52 Week...
Survive 10,000 Years With Alexander Rose of the Long Now Foundation
June 22, 2020 11:00 - 30 minutesThink one year ahead. You can likely do that. Think 15 years ahead, let’s say to 2035. You might just about be able to do that. Think 100 years ahead. Almost impossible. And 1000 years? And yet, if we don’t build our capacity to think beyond our timespan, we’re likely doomed. So, how to do that? I’ve been a member of an organization called The Long Now Foundation for ten years. They’re committed to long-term thinking. We’re 10,000 years into civilization. How do we act as stewards for th...
How To Move Through Complexity With Dave Snowden, Seminal Thinker
June 18, 2020 11:00 - 28 minutesCynefin! Say it with me ... Well, you probably can’t. Because it’s a Welsh word and you have to know how it’s said: Ku-NEV-in. My guest today is Dave Snowden, the creator of the Cynefin model. And the reason we’re learning a little bit of Welsh is because this is the model that helps us understand what it means to be operating within a complex system, and how that differs from ordered systems and chaos. It’s a framework that fundamentally changes how you understand the world. In my convers...
How To Have a Good Day With Caroline Webb, Behavioural Science Expert
June 15, 2020 11:00 - 29 minutesHow to have a good day. I for one want to know the answer to that. Now! Immediately! Now let me be clear. I don't want bland, predictable “there is no ‘i’ in innovation” type aphorisms.I want insights from science, so the changes I make are based in reality. So let me introduce you to Caroline Webb. She is an executive coach, author and speaker who specializes in showing people how to use insights from behavioural science to improve their professional lives. Her book is called –you got it—...
How To Transition With Grace, With Sarah Kerr, Death Doula
June 11, 2020 11:00 - 25 minutesThe power of ritual is profound. It’s woven deep into the rhythms of societies, and its power lies in the marking of a transition, from one state to another. It often means a death of some sort: something needs to pass, before something new can arrive. But few of us are comfortable with death, literal or metaphoric. My guest today is Sarah Kerr,a ritual healing practitioner and death doula whose work supports the living, the dying, and the dead. She facilitates private and public healing ri...
How To Train Ugly With Trevor Ragan, the Learners Learner
June 08, 2020 11:00 - 35 minutesI love the power of thinking about your thinking. This is where sustainable learning truly happens. Not in the telling. Not in the doing. But in the reflection on what’s happening. When you see patterns, you learn to manage them. My guest today is Trevor Ragan, the founder of The Learner Lab, an educational website that helps unpack and share the science of learning and development. Trevor spends his time with thought leaders and researchers from the worlds of psychology and developmental s...
How To Answer The Unanswerable Question With Ron Carucci, Prolific HBR Contributor
June 04, 2020 11:00 - 29 minutesYou know me well enough to know that I love a good question. But there are times, particularly in a crisis, when the questions you’re being asked feel impossible to answer. They ask for certainty and reassurance that you’re just not able to give. In that moment, you feel anxiety and uncertainty. What do you say to the unanswerable question? Ron Carucci has a suggestion. He is co-founder and managing partner at Navalent, and works with CEOs and executives pursuing transformational change for...
How To See Into The Future With Bina Venkataraman, Author of The Optimist’s Telescope
June 01, 2020 11:00 - 34 minutesYou know the marshmallow test, right? Some poor kid put in a room with a single marshmallow in front of them, and a choice: eat it now, or resist the temptation for 5 minutes and get a second marshmallow. Even though the research has been shown to be problematic, it’s illustrative: we so often take short-term, in-the-moment gratification that goes against our long-term interests. Bina Venkataraman is the editorial page editor of The Boston Globe and a fellow at New America. Before joining ...
How To Strengthen Micro-Resilience With Bonnie St. John, Former Olympian
May 28, 2020 11:00 - 30 minutesThe odds are you’re not an elite athlete. I know, for sure and without a doubt, that I’m not. When I am playing sports or working out, the thing that’s mostly going through my head is how do I keep myself from quitting, because I almost always have that desire to quit halfway through. The way champions like Bonnie St. John do it, in part, is by building micro-resilience. Bonnie is a former Olympian, and the first African Americanto win medals in a winter Olympic competition, taking home silv...
How To Create An Invincible Company With Alexander Osterwalder, Innovation Expert
May 25, 2020 11:00 - 31 minutesI have three broad categories of books in my life. First, there are the books that come and go pretty quickly. They’re just not very good. There are quite a lot of those. The second bucket are ones I read and think, “This is a pretty good book. There’s a smart idea buried in here.” And then the final category is made up of the types of books I strive to write. Powerful, designed, elegant and stirring. These are the books I keep on my top shelf, that travel with me when I move. Dr. Alexander ...
How To Build Awesome With Neil Pasricha, Shining Light of Awesomeness
May 21, 2020 11:00 - 38 minutesIt’s one of the stories that doesn’t quite seem real. Man has a really rough time in his life, starts a blog to cheer himself up--1,000 awesome things--it blows up, the book versions sell millions, the TEDx talk is seen by more millions, and he goes on to write more intriguing books, begin compelling podcasts and be a sought after keynote speaker. My friend Neil Pasricha is this self-same man. He’s a friend of mine, and we’ve spent time walking Toronto, visiting second-hand bookstores, drink...
How To See Around Corners With Rita McGrath, World’s #1 Strategy Thinker
May 18, 2020 11:00 - 31 minutesFor many years, I did five year plans. I'd sit there and do my best to map out what the next five years were going to be like. I would imagine great things: bold ambitions and brilliant outcomes. The other day as I was sorting through old boxes of paper, I came across some of these plans. What was both hilarious and slightly depressing about them is just how little resemblance those plans bear to what actually happened. Really understanding how to think and implement strategically is diffic...
Season Two: Brilliant Strategists, Death Doulas, Training Ugly and More
May 11, 2020 11:00 - 1 minuteWe Will Get Through This returns next week with another intriguing series of episodes. We'll be exploring how to see around corners, how to build micro-resilience, how to be invincible and so much more. This show is brought to you by The Advice Trap, Michael Bungay Stanier’s latest book. You can access a wide range of tools to help #TameYourAdviceMonster at www.TheAdviceTrap.com If you’d like to spend more time with Michael and people he admires, sign up for The Year of Living Brilliantly. ...
How To Feel Your Feelings With Dr Robert Biswas-Diener
May 04, 2020 11:05 - 27 minutesIt turns out, somewhat to my surprise, that the body isn’t just a nifty thing that carries around your head. There’s more to it than that. When I want to understand the power of emotions in a way that someone who lives in his head might understand, the person I go to is Dr Robert Biswas-Diener. Robert’s a psychologist, a researcher, and a coach, and he focuses on positive topics, such as happiness, courage, and social support. He’s also the author of a number of wonderful ooks, includes The...
How To Build a Resilience Profile With Dr Edy Greenblatt, author of Restore Yourself
May 04, 2020 11:04 - 32 minutesI like hyphenates. People whose journey has meant that they’ve got a bit of this and a bit of that. People who’ve taken expertise from one world into another. People whose journey to now makes no sense and total sense at the same time. I’m a bit like that (so confirmation bias, I guess). So to is Dr. Edy Greenblatt. She is a resilience pioneer, a work/life balance expert, and a coach supervisor. She has a Masters degree in psychology, and a joint PhD in organizational behavior from the Har...
How To Positively Plan With Rona Birenbaum, my Financial Advisor
May 04, 2020 11:03 - 34 minutesWhen I'm thinking to myself, "All right. Who do I need to talk to about money? Who would be a great source of wisdom and calmness and guidance in this time?" I thought I should introduce you to the person who helps me most. I'm going to introduce you to my financial advisor, Rona Birenbaum, who is brilliant. I love her not just for how she manages our money, but for how she calms us down. Rona is the founder of Caring for Clients--the name says a lot right away--a Canadian fee-for-service fi...
How To Talk To People About Things With Misha Glouberman, Author of The Chairs Are Where the People Go
May 04, 2020 11:02 - 27 minutesSome years ago I was wandering up my street, Roncesvalles Avenue, here in Toronto where I live. I wandered into my library and one of the reasons I go into the library is so I can wander the shelves and I can let serendipity happen. A book waves at you and goes, hey, notice me! In this visit, a book leapt off the shelf: The Chairs Are Where the People Go. As a facilitator and somebody who cares about group dynamics, I thought … well that's interesting, what is this about? So I took it home a...
How To Stay Values-Based With Karen Wright, Master Coach
May 04, 2020 11:01 - 33 minutesWhen I moved to Toronto and first dipped my toes in the murky waters of professional coaching, the name that got whispered with awe in the coffee shops and the ICF chapter gatherings was Karen Wright. Karen was already doing “coaching 2.0” before we’d really figured out what “coaching 1.0” was. Smart, provocative, rigorous and values-based. She and I have become friends, which I’m grateful for not just because we can share the occasional glass of wine, but because she’s who I turn to when I ...
How To Tell An Epic With Nancy Duarte, Author of Data Story
May 04, 2020 11:00 - 27 minutesCan you tell the difference between a good PowerPoint deck and one that’s lousy? Do you have a commitment to slides that are useful, elegant and that tell a story? Do you feel some part of your soul die when you’re subjected to some poorly planned and poorly designed presentation? If so, knowingly or not, you’re likely a disciple of Nancy Duarte. She’s the co-founder and CEO of Duarte, an agency based in Silicon Valley that has been at the forefront of the revolution to improve communication...
How To Harness The Power Of Music With Nathan Leigh Jones, PhD Student In The Power Of Lyrics
April 27, 2020 11:05 - 25 minutes"If music be the food of love, play on." That William Shakespeare was onto something. I think he’s going to go places. So too is my guest, Nathan Leigh Jones, a musician and an academic. Let’s start with the facts he's an avid singer-songwriter: he's taken his piano all over the world, including performances at Joe's Pub in New York City, the Sydney Opera House, and even Google's headquarters in Mountain View. But he’s also doing a PhD that exposes the impact of music and lyrics on emotiona...
Should We Do A Second Season?
April 27, 2020 11:03 - 1 minuteThis is the first season of We Will Get Through This, and of course I’m curious … should I keep doing it? Personally, I’m really enjoying the conversations, but I want to make sure that they’re useful for you too. Will you email and let me know? Tell me what you like and don’t like about the show. Suggest some awesome guests, if someone comes to mind. [email protected]. I’d love to know what’s on your mind. This show is brought to you by The Advice Trap, Michael Bungay Stanier’s latest b...
How To Manage Your Mindset With Ric Leahy, Practical Leadership Practitioner
April 27, 2020 11:02 - 42 minutesRic Leahy, my guest in this episode, was almost responsible for a career choice of mine that would have been disastrous, both for me and my country. Ric and I went to high school together. When we hit our final year, Ric had a plan: “I'm going to win a scholarship and join the navy." And I thought … well, why not. I'm going to join the air force. Ric wins his scholarship and begins a career in the navy. I failed every test they had, didn't begin a career in the air force, and eventually foun...
How To Settle Down With Eric Klein, Founder of Wisdom Heart
April 27, 2020 11:01 - 29 minutesNow I'm not going to name names but, oh, you need to know I have them in my head right now. I can see them, I can hear them, I can feel my breath getting a little faster, my shoulders going up around my ears, my spine stiffening, my jaw clenching a bit. Equally, and I hope this is true for you as well, there are some people who calm me down. People who make me smile, help me breathe, let my shoulders drop, let my heart open. Eric Klein is one of those people. He is a great calming influence ...
How To Build a Resilience MO With Kate Lye, Enterprise Change Coach
April 27, 2020 11:00 - 33 minutesOne of the few people in my life who was a great boss to me was Kate Lye. One of the reasons I truly love Kate, and this will sound a bit odd, is her intolerance. Intolerance not of people so much, but of shonky, flabby thinking. She has an ability to stick a finger at the kind of weak thinking that often shows up in the world of leadership and resilience and whatever else and saying, "Well that's not really good enough is it? Somebody's just made that up." That quest for rigor in thinking is...
How To Save A Story With Bernadette Jiwa, Creator of The Story Skills Workshop
April 20, 2020 11:12 - 27 minutesThe poet Muriel Rukeyser wrote, “The universe is made of stories, not of atoms.” I think, actually, it’s likely made of both … and while I can’t really claim any deep expertise in physics, I do know a little bit about the power of story-telling. A little bit. But not as much as Bernadette Jiwa who amongst other things has teamed up with Seth Godin to create a fantastic workshop on storytelling as part of his Akimbo series. Storytelling is the fabric that creates relationship and community a...
How To Focus On The Right Thing With Antonio Nieto-Rodriguez, Author of The Project Revolution
April 20, 2020 11:09 - 32 minutesI was introduced to the concept of projects and project management through a productivity guy: David Allen. In David’s book Getting Things Done, he says (and I paraphrase), "We get overwhelmed by all the stuff on our plates. Start thinking about almost everything you do as a project, and then you can start managing it as a project." David’s introducing a system, and in tough times, good systems are one of the things that help you live a better life, feel more in control, and get through this....
How To Strengthen Your Reputation With Dorie Clark, Author of Reinventing You
April 20, 2020 11:06 - 34 minutesDorie Clark has been described by no less than the New York Times as an expert in self-reinvention and helping others make changes in their lives. That’s probably all you need to know. But in case you’re asking yourself, “yes, but what else?” know that she's a frequent contributor to Harvard Business Review and is author of a number of books including Stand Out, which was named the number one leadership book of the year by Inc magazine. I’ve known Dorie for quite a while, and part of her qui...
How To Have a Money Plan with Bruce Sellery, author of Moolala: Why Smart People Do Dumb Things With Their Money
April 20, 2020 11:03 - 39 minutesMoney is so often a source of anxiety … and that’s during the good times. When times are hard, money can prove to be an even more significant source of concern and stress. That’s why I invited Bruce Sellery to be a guest on the podcast. I met him many years ago when he was a business journalist, and he’s gone on to be the host of the Million Dollar Neighborhood for the Oprah Winfrey Network and a money columnist for CBC Radio. He’s the author of Moolala: Why Smart People do Dumb Things with ...
How To Balance Compassion and Grit with Jen Lounden, author of Why Bother?
April 20, 2020 11:00 - 29 minutesJen Louden is one of my most important friends. We met fifteen years ago (it might even be more), when a mutual friend suggested we be part of a mastermind group together. Honestly, I wasn’t sure it would last. She was the best-selling author of The Women’s Comfort Book, the first mega-selling book on self-care … and what I assumed was likely a whole bunch of touchy-feely, self-indulgent stuff that was not really my thing at all. And yet, here we are. I love her and I admire her work, in par...
How To Stay Grateful with Chester Elton, Author of Leading with Gratitude
April 14, 2020 13:26 - 32 minutesThe first time I saw Chester, he was wearing one of his trademark orange shirts and was surrounded by adoring fans at a learning and development conference. It was clear that people loved him. To be honest, I was irritated. I wanted some of that mojo for myself! When I got to know him years later, I discovered that, well, I loved him too … the man combines a big heart and a big brain in a way that’s irresistible. He is the author of a number of books that combined have sold north of 1.5 mill...
How To Fight Well with Liane Davey, author of The Good Fight
April 14, 2020 11:05 - 35 minutesConfession: I’m not that great at conflict. For WAY too long my motto has been: Why have conflict when you can passively aggressively avoid it in some way? But the truth is, if we’re going to get through this, we need to manage conflict as best we can. Avoid the unnecessary fights; and fight well in the conflicts we have to have to move forward. That’s why it’s so important to listen to Liane Davey. She is an organizational psychologist who advises leaders on both strategy and team effective...
How To Practice Resilience With Dr. Taryn Marie, Former Head of Exec Leadership at Nike
April 14, 2020 11:00 - 31 minutesLots of people have one piece of the resilience puzzle. Their experience and expertise has given them insight on, say, nutrition or money or self-care or community building. These people are awesome, and they’ll be coming on the show. Few people have an established model about resilience, based on empirical evidence and tested in both the business and academic worlds. Dr Taryn Marie Stejskal is the unicorn. Her pre- and post-doctoral studies focused on the assessment and treatment of neurolo...
Introducing - We Will Get Through This
March 25, 2020 20:06 - 50 secondsIn difficult times, it's easy to despair. But all around us are experts who have proven tactics and strategies to stay strong: for ourselves, for our teams and for our organizations. This is a podcast asking the very best in the world how to stay resilient. This is a podcast that shows us We Will Get Through This