We're down in the crowded pit of the schismatics, the ninth of the evil pouches (or "malebolge") that make up the giant eighth circle of fraud in Dante's INFERNO.

We've already seen two figures, heard about at least four others, and are about to meet yet another guy. Except he can't speak. His tongue's been cut out. Because he fomented the Roman civil war--and helps us see Dante the poet's ambivalence as an idealist.

Join me, Mark Scarbrough, as we explore this short passage from INFERNO about Curio, the one who (maybe?) goaded Julius to cross the Rubicon and destroy the Republic to found the Roman Empire.

Here are the segments of this episode of WALKING WITH DANTE:

[02:00] My English translation of the passage: INFERNO, Canto XXVIII, lines 91 - 102. If you'd like to read along or drop a comment about this passage, go to my website, markscarbrough.com.

[03:24] Who is this Curio?

[09:20] Dante fulfills his promises--in the most meta-literary way!

[11:53] Dante the pilgrim's lines are fractured, the way the other schismatics' lines are fractured. Is that intentional?

[15:57] My long-standing interpretive error from this passage.

[19:04] A important warning about the horizons of interpretation.

[22:03] Dante has used the line about delay from Lucan's PHARSALIA before.

[24:16] From fearless to forlorn: the narrative journey of most of the damned.

[25:57] Three implications from this passage. 1) Is the distinction between schismatics and scandalmongers easy or complex?

[28:21] 2) These figures seem to still delight in tribalism, even in hell.

[32:04] 3) Dante is an idealist---which inevitably leads to ambivalence--which inevitably leads to rage.