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Unholy: Two Jews on the News

229 episodes - English - Latest episode: 1 day ago - ★★★★★ - 399 ratings

Yonit Levi of Israel's Channel 12 News and Jonathan Freedland of The Guardian are two of the most prominent journalists in the world today. They are also Jews. Each week, join what MSNBC's Rachel Maddow calls "two great, smart smart smart hosts" as they dissect and debate current events shaping Israel, Jewish life - and the wider world.


Their blend of nuanced discussion and sparkling conversation, featuring a dazzling range of guests, is why New Yorker editor David Remnick calls himself a “proud, avid listener," why Ira Glass says he "completely enjoys this show" and why Malcolm Gladwell calls it an "incredibly fun podcast".


For a weekly fix of globally informed talk – including nominations for the greatest act of chutzpah and outstanding mensch of the previous seven days – there’s only one destination. Make every Friday morning Unholy. 


 

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Episodes

The Burden and The Gift - with special guest Nicole Krauss

September 30, 2022 02:30 - 40 minutes - 37 MB

These are days of reflectiveness, between the Jewish New Year - Rosh Hashanah, and the holiest day of the Jewish calendar- Yom Kippur.  Yonit and Jonathan are joined by acclaimed author Nicole Krauss, for a discussion about Judaism that reverberates throughout her work, writing in the voice of a woman and a of a man, the place of Israel in her works and in her life, and what has changed in the literary world since she wrote her first novel at the age of 25.  Follow us on Facebook and Ins...

Unholy Live: Diplomatic Salon

September 23, 2022 02:30 - 59 minutes - 54.7 MB

Rosh Hashanah is right around the corner, and like almost every new Hebrew year lately, the upcoming one already has an Israeli election set in its calendar. The fifth round in three and a half years raises a lot of questions, the salient one being: will it be the last? That’s why we partnered up with The Center for Jewish Impact, to host a live event in which Yonit and Jonathan answer questions sent in by foreign diplomats and Jewish organizations from all around the world.  Plus, we talk...

Earth, King and Fire - with special guest David Wallace-Wells

September 16, 2022 02:30 - 1 hour - 60.1 MB

While coverage of the Queen's death continues to dominate British news outlets, Yonit and Jonathan dive into the relationship between the Royal Family and the Jewish community - which may see the taking of a long-awaited step with a new king on the block.  Also this week, we explain how the political aspect of applying the core curriculum to Haredi students in Israel coincides with a New York Times piece on the funds invested in Ultra Orthodox schools in Brooklyn. And, as Europe nears a ha...

The Elizabethan Era

September 09, 2022 02:00 - 51 minutes - 46.9 MB

For seven decades, Queen Elizabeth II was a symbol of stability not only in the commonwealth but on the world stage as well, helping to navigate her country through a series of shifts that rattled Britain in the twentieth and twenty first centuries, and placing the royal family as a fortress of reassurance in a time of upheaval. Yonit and Jonathan speak about the end of an era in the UK - from the announcement from Buckingham Palace that every news outlet in Britain braced for - but dreade...

Under Construction - with special guest David Remnick

September 02, 2022 02:30 - 52 minutes - 48.2 MB

August has come to an end, schools have reopened and Jonathan has landed safely from vacation - which means Unholy is back! If you chose to spend your summer break in Israel, you might have met two issues - the first being the high price tags, and the second the extensive construction all around. We also hope you weren’t too bothered by the political situation here - which took quite a few turns while we were away. But don’t fret -if you missed out or spent your vacation elsewhere, we’re her...

Conversations We Love: Mayim Bialik

August 26, 2022 02:30 - 30 minutes - 27.6 MB

What better way to spend the last days of summer break than by soaking up the sun… and listening to a rerun of a conversation we love? While our beloved British co-host is still away, he and Yonit made sure our listeners are reminded of some of our favorite conversations, before they return for a brand new season next week.  For the last week of August, Yonit and Jonathan revisit a conversation with a sitcom star who recently made her debut as film director. Here’s a clue: Famous Jewish ac...

Conversations We Love: Scott Galloway

August 19, 2022 02:30 - 37 minutes - 34.7 MB

We truly hope that by the time you’re reading this, you’re on a beach somewhere, or sipping an alcoholic drink in a European city. We can tell you that our own host, Jonathan Freedland, is probably doing one of the aforementioned activities - but only after he and Yonit made sure our listeners won’t miss out every Friday. For the third week of August, our hosts reminisced on their episode with Professor Scott Galloway, marketing guru and bestselling author. Tune in (again), to hear on issu...

Special Update: Flare-up in Gaza

August 08, 2022 18:46 - 35 minutes - 32.6 MB

Following Operation Breaking Dawn, Yonit and Jonathan are back from break with an emergency episode to speak on the recent conflict between Israel and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad in the Gaza Strip. After nearly seventy hours of clashes, a ceasefire was announced - and while it holds, for now, both sides know that it may only be a matter of time before the situation escalates again. Listen to hear our hosts summarize this recent round, with points including tactical aspects, the world's res...

Conversations We Love: David Remnick

August 05, 2022 02:30 - 45 minutes - 42.1 MB

Jonathan may be away, sitting on a lounge chair positioned on a sandy beach somewhere, but it doesn’t mean Unholy listeners will be deprived of their weekly podcast fix. This summer break, we’re taking you back to some of our favorite conversations with outstanding guests.  In this episode, Yonit and Jonathan revisit their discussion with one of America’s most accomplished journalists, David Remnick. Recorded on the eve of the Russian invasion of Ukraine, the editor of The New Yorker refle...

Why It Failed - with special guest Shimrit Meir

July 29, 2022 02:30 - 1 hour - 65.9 MB

  Last episode of the season - and before we pack our suitcases and bring out the bathing suits, we're closing off with an extra long episode. But don't worry - although we'll officially be back in September, we've got some surprises that will keep you entertained all through August.And for this episode: his predecessor may have maintained warm relations with Russia - but the man who now holds the top job at both the Prime Minister’s office and the Foreign Ministry, Yair Lapid, can’t quite...

If You Can't Stand The Heat - with special guest Walter Russell Mead

July 22, 2022 02:30 - 49 minutes - 45.7 MB

Israelis usually flee to Europe during hot summers to experience European weather - but this week’s heatwave made the blistering temperatures here seem normal. But whether or not the countries are well equipped with air conditioning, it seems none are particularly ready with a plan for the effects of climate change. And to another hot topic- the U.S involvement in the Middle East and Israel, in particular, we speak to historian and foreign policy luminary Walter Russell Mead on his new book...

Some Like It Hot - with special guest Walter Russell Mead

July 22, 2022 02:30 - 49 minutes - 45.7 MB

Israelis usually flee to Europe during hot summers to experience European weather - but this week’s heatwave made the blistering temperatures here seem normal. But whether or not the countries are well equipped with air conditioning, it seems none are particularly ready with a plan for the effects of climate change. And to another hot topic- the U.S involvement in the Middle East and Israel, in particular, we speak to historian and foreign policy luminary Walter Russell Mead on his new book,...

If You Can't Stand The Heat (with special guest Walter Russell Mead)

July 22, 2022 02:30 - 49 minutes - 45.7 MB

Israelis usually flee to Europe during hot summers to experience European weather - but this week’s heatwave made the blistering temperatures here seem normal. But whether or not the countries are well equipped with air conditioning, it seems none are particularly ready with a plan for the effects of climate change. And to another hot topic- the U.S involvement in the Middle East and Israel, in particular, we speak to historian and foreign policy luminary Walter Russell Mead on his new book...

When Yonit Met Joe

July 15, 2022 02:30 - 34 minutes - 31.8 MB

Armed vehicles, numerous flags and even a presidential menu - after much preparation, President Joe Biden landed in Israel this Wednesday, kicking off his Middle East visit with a jam-packed schedule in the Holyland. But a moment before leaving for Jerusalem, Biden sat down with our host, Yonit Levi, for a one-on-one, exclusive televised interview - the first ever for a foreign network. In this week's special edition of Unholy, Yonit gives Jonathan - and you listeners - the juiciest behind-t...

Hello Biden, Bye Bye Boris - with special guest Peter Baker

July 08, 2022 02:30 - 50 minutes - 46.3 MB

Roll the red carpet and get the cameras ready - in less than a week, the leader of the free world will make his way to Israel, only to be greeted by a freshly-appointed Prime Minister of a caretaker government. Yonit and Jonathan are joined by the New York Times’ Chief White House correspondent, Peter Baker, to discuss the objectives of the visit, the upcoming midterms and the American relations with Saudi Arabia.  And, it seems our British friends got a bit jealous of Israel hogging all t...

Prime (Time) Minister - with special guest Micah Goodman

July 01, 2022 02:30 - 1 hour - 58.2 MB

The term Prime Minister Yair Lapid may take some getting used to - but don’t take too long, as it’s paired with “interim”. After dissolving the Knesset and bidding farewell to his coalition partner, Naftali Bennett, Lapid embarked on his spell as head of a caretaker government - but all heads are turned to the fifth election round, which will determine whether the late-night host turned premier will be more than just another anecdote in a continuous political narrative.   Yonit and Jonatha...

Prime Time Minister - with special guest Micah Goodman

July 01, 2022 02:30 - 1 hour - 58.2 MB

The term Prime Minister Yair Lapid may take some getting used to - but don’t take too long, as it’s paired with “interim”. After dissolving the Knesset and bidding farewell to his coalition partner, Naftali Bennett, Lapid embarked on his spell as head of a caretaker government - but all heads are turned to the fifth election round, which will determine whether the late-night host turned premier will be more than just another anecdote in a continuous political narrative.   Yonit and Jonat...

Election Nation - with special guest Amit Segal

June 24, 2022 02:30 - 45 minutes - 42.1 MB

If you look up the words “Israel” and “Elections” in any search engine at any given time during these last three years, chances are you either saw articles about upcoming ballots - or results of a recent round. That’s why this week’s results won’t come as a surprise. This week, Bennet and Lapid themselves hammered the final nail into the coalition’s coffin - sending Israelis to vote yet again. Yonit and Jonathan are joined by Channel 12 political analyst Amit Segal, to chat about the open qu...

Election-nation - with special guest Amit Segal

June 24, 2022 02:30 - 45 minutes - 42.1 MB

If you look up the words “Israel” and “Elections” in any search engine at any given time during these last three years, chances are you either saw articles about upcoming ballots - or results of a recent round. That’s why this week’s results won’t come as a surprise. This week, Bennet and Lapid themselves hammered the final nail into the coalition’s coffin - sending Israelis to vote yet again. Yonit and Jonathan are joined by Channel 12 political analyst Amit Segal, to chat about the open que...

The Escape Artist - with special guest Jonathan Freedland!

June 17, 2022 02:30 - 59 minutes - 54.9 MB

This week's guest is someone Unholy listeners are quite familiar with - our very own co-host (and bestselling author) Jonathan Freedland! In this episode, Yonit gives him the tried and tested interviewee treatment as they discuss his new book, The Escape Artist, which details the all but unknown story of Rudolf Vrba. Vrba is one of only four Jews to escape Auschwitz, and is credited with publishing a detailed report on the atrocities being perpetrated behind barbed wire, a report which led t...

Last Man Standing

June 10, 2022 02:30 - 37 minutes - 34.3 MB

On the same night and only twenty minutes apart, members of parliament from two different countries cast votes which would determine the fate of their current head of government. On one end, lawmakers voted against a bill that represented their opinions just to wound the coalition, and on the other - a Prime Minister rejoiced even though nearly half of his party voted in favor of outing him. Sounds crazy, right? Well - for our Israeli and British co-hosts, respectively, that’s just called in...

Our Diamond Jubilee - with special guest Ira Glass

June 03, 2022 02:30 - 1 hour - 56 MB

We’re celebrating - and you’re all invited! After all, it only took sixty episodes of Unholy - and seventy years on the throne - to convince Jonathan to discuss the monarchy favorably. This week’s special guest, Ira Glass, set the gold standard for podcasts with his award winning "This American Life", he is the recipient of the Pulitzer Prize - but if you ask him, he doesn’t really consider himself a celebrity. Glass talks with Yonit and Jonathan about being the non-traditional voice that ...

Guns, Pride and Power

May 27, 2022 02:30 - 36 minutes - 33.5 MB

In the aftermath of the tragedy in Uvalde, Texas, Yonit and Jonathan discuss how Israel, compared to the U.S. is both well-armed and at the same time well- regulated when it comes to guns. This week's episode also features a discussion about the reality television episode of "Married at First Sight" that made LGBTQ history, with two men under the Jewish wedding canopy, shattering the glass (both literally and metaphorically). Plus, if you're a "Jewish-looking" actor - we suggest you tune...

Coalition Crisis, AIPAC and an Interview with Mayim Bialik

May 20, 2022 02:30 - 1 hour - 58.3 MB

Israel's PM Naftali Bennett hoped to silence his government’s swan song - but the music is getting louder by the moment, with a surprising exit stage left of the coalition, possibly giving Netanyahu the one-up he needed. We discuss the great replacement theory, how the world viewed one funeral in Jerusalem, and why everyone is talking about AIPAC. And this week we are joined by special guest Mayim Bialik, actress and host of "Jeopardy!", who tells us how Jewish mourning rituals influence...

Stuck

May 13, 2022 02:30 - 38 minutes - 35.3 MB

The death of Al Jazeera journalist Shireen Abu Akleh during an IDF raid in the Palestinian city of Jenin has shifted the international spotlight back on Israel. Yonit and Jonathan discuss the contradicting narratives and the implications of this tragedy for both sides. In the meantime, the Bennett-Lapid coalition is keeping its head above water for now, but the answer to whether it makes it to safe shores or drowns is still pending.  For dessert, we hope you don’t mind a dish served cold...

Field Commander Cohen – with special guest Matti Friedman

May 06, 2022 02:30 - 1 hour - 55.1 MB

**This episode was recorded before the terror attack in central Israel** On Israel's Independence Day, Yonit and Jonathan talk to award winning author Matti Friedman about his new book, "Who By Fire: Leonard Cohen in the Sinai", in which he details the extraordinary episode of Cohen's musical tour during the Yom Kippur war. In the shadow of the Roe v. Wade row in the U.S. - how do Judaism and Israel view abortions. Why Israel in practice is more liberal on abortions than the U.S. Plus ...

Field Commander Cohen – with Special Guest Matti Friedman

May 06, 2022 02:30 - 1 hour - 55.1 MB

**This episode was recorded before the terror attack in central Israel** On Israel's Independence Day, Yonit and Jonathan talk to award winning author Matti Friedman about his new book, "Who By Fire: Leonard Cohen in the Sinai", in which he details the extraordinary episode of Cohen's musical tour during the Yom Kippur war. In the shadow of the Roe v. Wade row in the U.S. - how do Judaism and Israel view abortions. Why Israel in practice is more liberal on abortions than the U.S. Plus – we...

Supernova, With Special Guest Ronan Farrow

April 29, 2022 02:30 - 1 hour - 56.5 MB

Yonit and Jonathan are back from Passover break and seder with a lot on their plate – We tackle Israeli PM Naftali Bennett's huge takeout bill, the results of the French Presidential election through the eyes of French Jews and French expats in Israel, and our mutual addiction to the series WeCrashed about Israeli entrepreneur Adam Neumann. We're joined by Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Ronan Farrow to discuss his recent piece for The New Yorker on NSO group, his groundbreaking reporting...

Supernova - with special guest Ronan Farrow

April 29, 2022 02:30 - 1 hour - 56.5 MB

Yonit and Jonathan are back from Passover break and seder with a lot on their plate – We tackle Israeli PM Naftali Bennett's huge takeout bill, the results of the French Presidential election through the eyes of French Jews and French expats in Israel, and our mutual addiction to the series WeCrashed about Israeli entrepreneur Adam Neumann. We're joined by Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Ronan Farrow to discuss his recent piece for The New Yorker on NSO group, his groundbreaking report...

Conversations We Love: Kara Swisher

April 22, 2022 02:30 - 36 minutes - 33 MB

Just before they return from Passover break, Yonit and Jonathan revisit their conversation with Kara Swisher, the most influential tech journalist in the world. They discuss the big tech companies and their accountability (or lack thereof), U.S. politics, the success of Israeli tech companies, and tips on how to co-host a podcast… See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Conversations We Love: Yuval Noah Harari

April 15, 2022 02:30 - 57 minutes - 53 MB

For Passover, Yonit and Jonathan revisit their conversation with intellectual icon Yuval Noah Harari.  They discuss the future of humans, pandemics, climate change, corporations vs. governments, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, trans rights, and Yuval shares his secret of success… See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Conversations We Loved: Yuval Noah Harari

April 15, 2022 02:30 - 57 minutes - 53 MB

For Passover, Yonit and Jonathan revisit their conversation with intellectual icon Yuval Noah Harari.  They discuss the future of humans, pandemics, climate change, corporations vs. governments, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, trans rights, and Yuval shares his secret of success… See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Beginning of the End - with special guest Amit Segal

April 08, 2022 06:03 - 49 minutes - 44.9 MB

**This episode was recorded before the terror attack in Tel Aviv**  A week of political turmoil in Israel, Yonit and Jonathan are joined by Amit Segal, political analyst and bestselling author who broke the story that Naftali Bennett's coalition is now hanging on by a thread. They discuss the different scenarios that can unfold, Bennett's biggest mistake, and what are the chances for Benjamin Netanyahu's to make a comeback to the Prime Minister's chair.  On the Ukrainian front, we discuss wh...

The Beginning of the End

April 08, 2022 06:03 - 49 minutes - 44.9 MB

**This episode was recorded before the terror attack in Tel Aviv**  A week of political turmoil in Israel, Yonit and Jonathan are joined by Amit Segal, political analyst and bestselling author who broke the story that Naftali Bennett's coalition is now hanging on by a thread. They discuss the different scenarios that can unfold, Bennett's biggest mistake, and what are the chances for Benjamin Netanyahu's to make a comeback to the Prime Minister's chair.  On the Ukrainian front, we discuss wha...

The Beginning of the End, With Special Guest Amit Segal

April 08, 2022 06:03 - 49 minutes - 44.9 MB

**This episode was recorded before the terror attack in Tel Aviv**  A week of political turmoil in Israel, Yonit and Jonathan are joined by Amit Segal, political analyst and bestselling author who broke the story that Naftali Bennett's coalition is now hanging on by a thread. They discuss the different scenarios that can unfold, Bennett's biggest mistake, and what are the chances for Benjamin Netanyahu's to make a comeback to the Prime Minister's chair.  On the Ukrainian front, we discuss wha...

A Conversation with Former Israeli PM Ehud Barak

April 01, 2022 02:30 - 54 minutes - 50.1 MB

As Israel faces a new wave of terror attacks, Yonit and Jonathan are joined by Ehud Barak, former Israeli Prime Minister. He shares his insights: what can be done to break the cycle of violence, and why he is still optimistic about peace even though the signs point in the opposite direction. We discuss Israel's moral ambiguity on Ukraine, and what Barak Thinks should be the global plan to prevent a nuclear Iran. And for the mensch award of the week we go to the Oscars but make a surprising...

New Wave of Terror - with special guest Former Israeli PM Ehud Barak

April 01, 2022 02:30 - 54 minutes - 50.1 MB

As Israel faces a new wave of terror attacks, Yonit and Jonathan are joined by Ehud Barak, former Israeli Prime Minister. He shares his insights: what can be done to break the cycle of violence, and why he is still optimistic about peace even though the signs point in the opposite direction. We discuss Israel's moral ambiguity on Ukraine, and what Barak Thinks should be the global plan to prevent a nuclear Iran. And for the mensch award of the week we go to the Oscars but make a surpri...

A Special Place in Hell

March 25, 2022 02:30 - 35 minutes - 32.1 MB

Yonit and Jonathan discuss Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy's speech to the Israeli parliament: he thought lawmakers weren't doing enough, they thought he said too much. Why the whole world should be concerned about the influence ISIS has on one terrorist in Be'er Sheva, and is this week's deadly attack a precursor to a new Intifada. In the mensch category we'll say goodbye to a venerated diplomat and trailblazer; our chutzpah nominee goes to someone who's won it so often we might...

Safe Haven

March 18, 2022 03:30 - 42 minutes - 38.9 MB

Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett stepping up his mediation efforts between Russia and Ukraine; the Biden Administration intensifying its crackdown on Oligarchs; and the internal debate in Israel rages on the issue of accepting Ukrainian refugees.   Yonit and Jonathan are joined by journalist and author Oliver Bullough, an expert on financial crime, to discuss Russian Oligarchs in Israel. We have a double mensch award and an attempt-- even under the shadow of a war in Europe – to celeb...

Safe Haven - with special guest Oliver Bullough

March 18, 2022 03:30 - 42 minutes - 38.9 MB

Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett stepping up his mediation efforts between Russia and Ukraine; the Biden Administration intensifying its crackdown on Oligarchs; and the internal debate in Israel rages on the issue of accepting Ukrainian refugees.   Yonit and Jonathan are joined by journalist and author Oliver Bullough, an expert on financial crime, to discuss Russian Oligarchs in Israel. We have a double mensch award and an attempt-- even under the shadow of a war in Europe – to ce...

"We have to win this war"- A conversation with special guest Anne Applebaum

March 11, 2022 03:30 - 43 minutes - 39.7 MB

As the war in Ukraine intensifies, Yonit and Jonathan are joined by Pulitzer Prize winning author Anne Applebaum to discuss Zelenskyy, Putin, Bennett and the high stakes everyone is playing for. In this episode we also give a nod to Israel and Turkey's old-new bromance; we go to great depths to give a mensch award; and a chutzpah award you probably weren't expecting… Email us [email protected] See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

"We Have to Win This War"- with special guest Anne Applebaum

March 11, 2022 03:30 - 43 minutes - 39.7 MB

As the war in Ukraine intensifies, Yonit and Jonathan are joined by Pulitzer Prize winning author Anne Applebaum to discuss Zelenskyy, Putin, Bennett and the high stakes everyone is playing for. In this episode we also give a nod to Israel and Turkey's old-new bromance; we go to great depths to give a mensch award; and a chutzpah award you probably weren't expecting… Email us [email protected] See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Special Guest Scott Galloway

March 04, 2022 06:39 - 55 minutes - 50.8 MB

Yonit and Jonathan are joined by Professor Scott Galloway, marketing guru and bestselling author, to talk Ukraine and Russia, U.S. and Israel, angry young men and big tech.  And, as Jonathan braves a covid diagnosis, our chutzpah and mensch nominees this week are inevitably tied to Ukraine. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Clash of a Titan

February 25, 2022 03:30 - 35 minutes - 32.7 MB

Following the Russian onslaught in Ukraine- Yonit and Jonathan talk about the price of intervention and the price of non intervention, What is left of the new world order, Russian oligarchs around the world and Israel's tightrope act becoming increasingly challenging. And how all this affects the nuclear talks still taking place in Vienna, with the U.S. and Russia on the same side. On the lighter side- Chutzpah award from the newspaper business and one of our co-hosts has a birthday… E...

The View from the New Yorker - with special guest David Remnick

February 18, 2022 04:00 - 48 minutes - 44.6 MB

For the latest edition of Unholy, Yonit and Jonathan are joined by one of America's most admired journalists, David Remnick. The editor of the New Yorker draws on a long career, including a spell in Moscow reporting on the last days of the Soviet Union, to reflect on everything from possible war in Ukraine to the state of Israeli society, from the threat of Donald Trump to Remnick's own Jewish identity...and the joys of conversation with Leonard Cohen.  There's also a chutzpah award for a c...

The View from (the) New York(er) - with special guest David Remnick

February 18, 2022 04:00 - 48 minutes - 44.6 MB

For the latest edition of Unholy, Yonit and Jonathan are joined by one of America's most admired journalists, David Remnick. The editor of the New Yorker draws on a long career, including a spell in Moscow reporting on the last days of the Soviet Union, to reflect on everything from possible war in Ukraine to the state of Israeli society, from the threat of Donald Trump to Remnick's own Jewish identity...and the joys of conversation with Leonard Cohen.  There's also a chutzpah award for a c...

The view from (the) New York(er) - an interview with special guest David Remnick

February 18, 2022 04:00 - 48 minutes - 44.6 MB

For the latest edition of Unholy, Yonit and Jonathan are joined by one of America's most admired journalists, David Remnick. The editor of the New Yorker draws on a long career, including a spell in Moscow reporting on the last days of the Soviet Union, to reflect on everything from possible war in Ukraine to the state of Israeli society, from the threat of Donald Trump to Remnick's own Jewish identity...and the joys of conversation with Leonard Cohen.  There's also a chutzpah award for a co...

The man at the center of the storm: an interview with NSO's CEO

February 11, 2022 04:00 - 49 minutes - 45.1 MB

In an exclusive interview, Yonit and Jonathan question Shalev Hulio, the CEO of the NSO Group, the Israeli company that has become one of the most controversial in the world. NSO sells spyware to governments across the globe for use, it says, against criminals and terrorists. But media organisations and human rights groups say Pegasus hacking software has been deployed against dissidents, journalists and activists. Hulio answers those allegations, tells us what explains the US government blac...

The Man at the Center of the Storm: An Interview with the CEO of NSO

February 11, 2022 04:00 - 49 minutes - 45.1 MB

In an exclusive interview, Yonit and Jonathan question Shalev Hulio, the CEO of the NSO Group, the Israeli company that has become one of the most controversial in the world. NSO sells spyware to governments across the globe for use, it says, against criminals and terrorists. But media organisations and human rights groups say Pegasus hacking software has been deployed against dissidents, journalists and activists. Hulio answers those allegations, tells us what explains the US government bla...

Unhealthy: Whoopi Goldberg, Amnesty and a Jewdle Showdown

February 04, 2022 04:00 - 40 minutes - 37.2 MB

Despite suffering from Covid and with the help of chicken soup, Yonit throws herself into spirited discussion with Jonathan about Whoopi Goldberg's inflammatory remarks on the Holocaust, and Amnesty International's labelling of Israel as an apartheid state. They also talk about how Israel's largest circulation newspaper has switched its support from Benjamin Netanyahu to Naftali Bennett. And for the mensch award Jonathan nominates (and inflicts) his new word-based obsession upon Yonit. W...

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