Turning Towards Life - a Thirdspace podcast
351 episodes - English - Latest episode: 14 days ago - ★★★★★ - 12 ratingsJoin Lizzie Winn and Justin Wise from Thirdspace for weekly conversations that ask how we might bring ourselves to life with as much courage and wisdom as we can. We start each episode with inspiring sources and then dive deep together into the questions and possibilities they open up. Find us on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, Google Podcasts, YouTube and FaceBook, at http://www.turningtowards.life and at http://www.wearethirdspace.org
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99: The Beauty of Guilt
August 25, 2019 13:18 - 34 minutes - 31.8 MBOur capacity to say a real, genuine, heartfelt ‘yes’ depends upon our ability to also say ‘no’ when it’s called for. But so often we act out of integrity with ourselves to try to save ourselves from feeling the guilt that so often comes with ‘no’. But what if we saw guilt as something to welcome rather than avoid? A conversation about finding a way to be true in our relationships with others, with Lizzie Winn and Justin Wise of Thirdspace. Here’s Episode 99 of Turning Towards Life, a weekl...
98: Breathing Our Fragile and Reckless Love Back to Us
August 18, 2019 10:09 - 36 minutes - 33.2 MBIs it possible to love life even when it doesn't go our way? And to love others for the sake of loving, not because of what we'll get in return? A conversation about coming at life in a recklessly unconditional, life-giving way, with Lizzie Winn and Justin Wise of Thirdspace. Here’s Episode 98 of Turning Towards Life, a weekly live 30 minute conversation hosted by Thirdspace in which Justin Wise and Lizzie Winn dive deep into big questions of human living. Find us on FaceBook to watch live...
97: Refining the Truths We Can Tell Each Other
August 13, 2019 15:19 - 34 minutes - 31.8 MBWhat if love isn’t a feeling but the dedicated, liberating, sometimes painful work of learning to tell each other the truth? A conversation about being courageous, turning towards one another, and honouring the complexities of being a human being, with Lizzie Winn and Justin Wise of Thirdspace. Here’s Episode 97 of Turning Towards Life, a weekly live 30 minute conversation hosted by Thirdspace in which Justin Wise and Lizzie Winn dive deep into big questions of human living. Find us on Fac...
96: When the Child in Me Sees the Child in You
August 04, 2019 21:53 - 32 minutes - 30 MBWhat would happen if we lightened up with one another just enough to see the tender, vulnerable human being behind the bluster? A conversation about treating one another with kindness and truthfulness and letting go of our certainty about each others' intentions, with Lizzie Winn and Justin Wise of Thirdspace. Here’s Episode 96 of Turning Towards Life, a weekly live 30 minute conversation hosted by Thirdspace in which Justin Wise and Lizzie Winn dive deep into big questions of human living...
95: On Perfectionism, Bird by Bird
July 28, 2019 09:53 - 34 minutes - 31.5 MBWhat if we dropped our self-imposed demands for perfection (in ourselves particularly) and instead saw that the one gift we really have to bring is our own aliveness and creativity? And what would happen if we really allowed ourselves to feel, taste and act on what calls us? A conversation about letting go, taking on, fiercely resisting the forces of perfectionism, and bringing ourselves fully to this one life, with Lizzie Winn and Justin Wise of Thirdspace. Here’s Episode 95 of Turning Tow...
94: Winging It
July 21, 2019 14:53 - 36 minutes - 33.4 MBWhat would happen if we understood that we're all making it up, and that nobody really knows what's going on? A conversation about facing the messy realities of human life, and about learning we're not alone, with Lizzie Winn and Justin Wise of Thirdspace. Here’s Episode 94 of Turning Towards Life, a weekly live 30 minute conversation hosted by Thirdspace in which Justin Wise and Lizzie Winn dive deep into big questions of human living. Find us on FaceBook to watch live and join in the liv...
93: What We Learn from Trees
July 14, 2019 16:53 - 32 minutes - 29.8 MBWhat happens when we stop relating to ourselves and others as things? A conversation about trees, depth, and openness to one another with Lizzie Winn and Justin Wise of Thirdspace. Here’s Episode 93 of Turning Towards Life, a weekly live 30 minute conversation hosted by Thirdspace in which Justin Wise and Lizzie Winn dive deep into big questions of human living. Find us on FaceBook to watch live and join in the lively conversation on this episode. We’re also on YouTube, and as a podcast on...
92: There Is No Road Ahead
July 09, 2019 09:56 - 31 minutes - 29.2 MBOur lives are made more difficult than they might be by our insistence that things should be a certain way that we’ve imagined or seen in the lives of others. What would happen if we compassionately let go of the idea that there is ‘a path’ for each of us to follow, and committed instead to taking one step into the wild unknown at a time? A conversation about time, gratitude, practice and turning into the flow of our lives with Lizzie Winn and Justin Wise of Thirdspace. Here’s Episode 92 o...
91: A Manifesto for Parenting One Another
June 30, 2019 14:24 - 33 minutes - 30.9 MBWhat would happen to our parenting (and all our relating to others) if we gave up our commitment to perfection and instead treated ourselves, and the people around us, as always 'works in progress'? A conversation about care, kindness, taking a stand, and walking the path of practice with Lizzie Winn and Justin Wise of Thirdspace. Here’s Episode 91 of Turning Towards Life, a weekly live 30 minute conversation hosted by Thirdspace in which Justin Wise and Lizzie Winn dive deep into big ques...
90: They Just Look Like Love
June 24, 2019 09:34 - 32 minutes - 30.1 MBWhat if love isn't a feeling, but an action or a path we can walk? A conversation about actively choosing who and how we love, giving up trying to control things, and the miraculous properties of cups of tea with Lizzie Winn and Justin Wise of Thirdspace. Here’s Episode 90 of Turning Towards Life, a weekly live 30 minute conversation hosted by Thirdspace in which Justin Wise and Lizzie Winn dive deep into big questions of human living. Find us on FaceBook to watch live and join in the li...
89: Walking Away During Supper
June 16, 2019 14:42 - 35 minutes - 32.2 MBMen, and women, and the stories about how we're 'meant' to be human that constrain us. A conversation about relationships, power and being on a path with Lizzie Winn and Justin Wise of Thirdspace. Here’s Episode 89 of Turning Towards Life, a weekly live 30 minute conversation hosted by Thirdspace in which Justin Wise and Lizzie Winn dive deep into big questions of human living. Find us on FaceBook to watch live and join in the lively conversation on this episode. We’re also on YouTube, a...
88: One Thing Among Many
June 09, 2019 09:06 - 31 minutes - 28.6 MBWhat is it to learn to look at ourselves the way 'one looks at distant things'? And what happens when we relax our certainty that we have to have it all figured out before we can contribute? A conversation about love, invitation and purpose with Lizzie Winn and Justin Wise of Thirdspace. Here’s Episode 88 of Turning Towards Life, a weekly live 30 minute conversation hosted by Thirdspace in which Justin Wise and Lizzie Winn dive deep into big questions of human living. Find us on FaceBook...
87: I Come Palms Up
June 02, 2019 15:39 - 34 minutes - 31.4 MBCan we catch on to the ways in which we defend ourselves from life? And, when we see our part in making life smaller than it might be, can we discover how to stay in contact with what happens in life, to learn from it, and to find a fuller kind of presence in the midst of everything? A conversation about learning to stay open with Lizzie Winn and Justin Wise of Thirdspace. Here’s Episode 87 of Turning Towards Life, a weekly live 30 minute conversation hosted by Thirdspace in which Justin...
86: The Cure
May 26, 2019 11:59 - 30 minutes - 28.3 MBWhat's the cost of trying to 'get over' grief, sorrow and pain? Is there another way? Can we perhaps find a way to welcome in ourselves what we'd otherwise try to push away, and in doing so learn to welcome other people more fully too? A conversation about encountering and including difference in our lives with Lizzie Winn and Justin Wise of Thirdspace. Here’s Episode 86 of Turning Towards Life, a weekly live 30 minute conversation hosted by Thirdspace in which Justin Wise and Lizzie Win...
85: Bonus: The Thirdspace Professional Coaching Course
May 26, 2019 10:54 - 55 minutes - 50.5 MBA bonus episode describing and exploring the Thirdspace Professional Coaching Course which next begins in July 2019 in London. A conversation with Lizzie Winn and Justin Wise of Thirdspace. In this special edition of 'Turning Towards Life' Lizzie and Justin talk about the Thirdspace Professional Coaching Course (offered in partnership with New Ventures West), a certification programme in integral development coaching which is at the heart of Thirdspace's work and a project of great joy and...
85: Hokusai Says
May 19, 2019 10:55 - 31 minutes - 28.8 MBUnderneath everything, beneath our striving and reaching and fear, life is finding a way through us. What happens when we pay attention to it, when we let life take us by the hand? A conversation about letting life matter with Lizzie Winn and Justin Wise of Thirdspace. Here’s Episode 85 of Turning Towards Life, a weekly live 30 minute conversation hosted by Thirdspace in which Justin Wise and Lizzie Winn dive deep into big questions of human living. Find us on FaceBook to watch live and j...
84: The Call to Live Everything
May 12, 2019 13:13 - 33 minutes - 30.6 MBWe are so often afraid of our own aliveness that we'll cover it up with an image, a role, or an identity that's been handed to us by others. But what possibilities for encounter with life and with one another are born when we cross the thin divide between 'image' and 'realness'? A conversation about not turning away with Lizzie Winn and Justin Wise of Thirdspace. Here’s Episode 84 of Turning Towards Life, a weekly live 30 minute conversation hosted by Thirdspace in which Justin Wise and Li...
83: Famous
May 05, 2019 09:27 - 33 minutes - 30.9 MBWhat’s the cost of our constant comparison with others, with a life we think we’re meant to be living, or with our past or future selves? There’s a good reason why comparison has been called ‘the thief of joy’. So what happens when we find a way, instead, of bringing ourselves whole-heartedly as we are, to the life we’re already living? A conversation about not turning away with Lizzie Winn and Justin Wise of Thirdspace. Here’s Episode 83 of Turning Towards Life, a weekly live 30 minute co...
82: Thanks
April 28, 2019 09:33 - 33 minutes - 30.5 MBEven in the darkest of situations can we find a way to be joyful? Is there a kind of gratitude which isn't a turning away from the gravity of things? Might just this joy and gratitude be what's called for if we're to face our situation with sufficient energy, creativity and ethical care? A conversation about not turning away with Lizzie Winn and Justin Wise of Thirdspace. Here's Episode 82 of Turning Towards Life, a weekly live 30 minute conversation hosted by Thirdspace in which Justin Wi...
81: Two Paths
April 21, 2019 09:34 - 34 minutes - 31.6 MBIn every moment we have a choice about how to meet the circumstances of our lives, and the cumulative effect of our choices adds up to a path we walk through life. What happens when we pay attention enough that we can know ourselves as choosing? And which path will we choose - fear or faithfulness, scattered or present? A conversation with Lizzie Winn and Justin Wise of Thirdspace. In this conversation we explore the ways in which our moment-to-moment interpretation shapes the way we bring...
80: The Place Where We Are Right
April 14, 2019 10:51 - 31 minutes - 28.7 MBIt's so gratifying to be right, but often it's our very rightness that strangles the life out of our relationships and out of our own existence. What can we do to soften our rightness and allow both doubt and love, so that something new can come in? A conversation with Lizzie Winn and Justin Wise of Thirdspace. In this conversation we consider together how easy and gratifying it can be to feel right, even right about our own uncertainty, and how easily 'rightness' strangles the life out of ...
79: The Path of Beyond and Beneath
April 07, 2019 11:14 - 33 minutes - 31.1 MBWhat can we do, when we get wounded, to stay in a relationship with others that’s dignified and respectful of everyone's humanity? It’s a question pertinent both to our personal relationships and to our troubled, fractious conversations about the big issues of our times. A conversation with Lizzie Winn and Justin Wise of Thirdspace. In this conversation we explore together how we might navigate a course between ‘right’ and ‘wrong’ when we're wounded, without it having to entail that we give...
77: Bonus: The Thirdspace Professional Coaching Course
March 31, 2019 13:58 - 55 minutes - 50.5 MBIn this special edition of 'Turning Towards Life' Lizzie and Justin talk about the Thirdspace Professional Coaching Course (offered in partnership with New Ventures West), a certification programme in integral development coaching which is at the heart of Thirdspace's work and a project of great joy and love for both of us. Over the course of our conversation you'll hear what makes this special programme unique, how it changes participants and what it makes possible, the distinction between...
78: Precious Time
March 31, 2019 13:56 - 34 minutes - 32 MBThe mystery of time and death. We explore two different ways that we turn away from the reality of time – either by tuning out from the fleeting nature of things and the urgency of our response, or by eating up time in a panicked flurry of frantic activity. Somewhere between the two, we discover, is a way in which we can meet time more directly, more lovingly, and in a more responsive way – and in a way that helps us both decide what matters and invest our activities with mattering. Along ...
77: Let Us Begin the Journey Home
March 31, 2019 13:55 - 33 minutes - 31.6 MBHow should we respond to our confusing, complex times? Is there a way that we can find ourselves deep in the midst of the sacred ordinariness of life, ready to contribute and participate without being so convinced of our smallness, separateness or fear? A conversation with Lizzie Winn and Justin Wise of Thirdspace. This week we return to a poem by Rumi that calls to these confusing and complex times. We explore together what can happen as we soften ourselves so that life, in its bigger sens...
75: On Self-Compassion and Belonging
March 31, 2019 13:53 - 37 minutes - 34.5 MBHow our welcoming ourselves makes it possible for us to welcome others more fully, without having to control them or judge them. And what comes from welcoming even our own shame. A conversation with Lizzie Winn and Justin Wise of Thirdspace. In this conversation we talk about the belonging in life that is supported by finding out that all the parts of us that we usually push away, and all the experiences too, also belong. We explore together how difficult it can be to welcome ourselves with...
76: Life While You Wait
March 31, 2019 13:52 - 33 minutes - 30.4 MBWhat happens when we meet ‘what is’ with an open heart, and when we drop our demands that life somehow bend itself exactly to our will? A conversation with Lizzie Winn and Justin Wise of Thirdspace. What might it be to enter into the vast mystery of life with an attitude of welcome? What happens, we wonder, when we meet ‘what is’ with an open heart, and when we drop our demands that life somehow bend itself exactly to our will? We consider the ways in which life is an ongoing invitation to ...
74: The Abandoned Parts of Ourselves
March 31, 2019 13:50 - 30 minutes - 28.2 MBWhat happens when we see and loosen the loyalties we may have carried since childhood but which no longer serve us? A conversation about adult development, freedom and finding out what's ours to do, with Lizzie Winn and Justin Wise of Thirdspace. In this conversation we talk about adult development, about the loyalties to particular ways of doing things that we enter into during childhood, and about what it is to find ourselves free – to a greater or lesser extent – to pursue what is increa...
73: The Seven of Pentacles
March 31, 2019 13:47 - 33 minutes - 30.3 MBHow can we see through the stories we have about life that have us either be too small (and which have us give up) or too big (when we demand that the world goes just our way)? What it is to see that most of life doesn't unfold in a 'cause and effect' way? And how to 'live as if you liked yourself' - finding our goodness in the midst of everything that happens. Turning Towards Life is a weekly live 30 minute conversation hosted by Thirdspace in which Justin Wise and Lizzie Winn dive deep i...
72: What to Remember When Waking
March 31, 2019 13:46 - 31 minutes - 28.9 MBHow might we live in life's mystery without being swallowed by fear, or losing touch with ourselves? A conversation about living with depth with Justin Wise and Lizzie Winn of Thirdspace. In this conversation we consider how to have our lives be informed by the depth and imagination of our sleeping dreams, and what it is to find a way to be a gift back to the life that is a gift to us. Our source this week is by the poet David Whyte. Turning Towards Life is a weekly live 30 minute conversa...
71: See Paris First
March 31, 2019 13:45 - 30 minutes - 27.6 MBHow avoiding fear can shrink our lives. A conversation about living in an ever larger world, with Lizzie Winn and Justin Wise of Thirdspace. In this conversation we consider what it takes to live in an ever larger world of both meaning and contribution, and how that nearly always calls on us to move towards what we’re most afraid of. As we go we talk about the ways in which fear draws us away from our capacity to respond to what’s actually happening now, the kindness to ourselves that’s req...
70: Con-Trick
March 31, 2019 13:42 - 35 minutes - 33 MBSelf-deception, our attempts to stay in control of everything, and the trouble that comes from all of it. Our source this week is an extract from a piece published on Justin's blog, justinwise.co.uk. We use it to launch into a conversation about self-deception, trying to stay in control of circumstances and experiences (and the cost of both), the trouble that comes from our attempts to manage our own image, the wisdom and delights of the enneagram as a way of understanding personality patte...
69: For Those Who Have Died
March 31, 2019 13:41 - 36 minutes - 33.4 MBThe difficult and live-giving work of both loving and grieving. A conversation about courage and tenderness with Lizzie Winn and Justin Wise of Thirdspace. In this conversation we consider together how easily our fear of loss can stop us from loving fully, how love and grief are but two sides of the same coin, and how we might step into both with a clear heart, courage and tenderness. And along the way we find much to be joyful about, and to laugh about. Turning Towards Life is a weekly li...
68: Mary Oliver's Fourth Sign of the Zodiac
March 31, 2019 13:39 - 34 minutes - 31.5 MBThe urgency of belonging to the world. A conversation about the feeling safe even when the world is risky, with Justin Wise and Lizzie Winn of Thirdspace. This conversation is inspired by a poem by Mary Oliver, who died this week. Lizzie and Justin talk about the power of ongoing practices to shape the world; the many ways in which we're taught that we're in some way separate from things, and what we might do about that; what it is to feel safe, even when life is risky; and the gifts that w...
66: Dancing With Me in My Kitchen
March 31, 2019 13:36 - 35 minutes - 32.3 MBHow we box ourselves into an identity - a conversation about shame, self-criticism and freedom with Lizzie Winn and Justin Wise of Thirdspace. One of the weirdest and yet most understandable features of being a human being is how we'll box ourselves in to an identity - a particular way of being in the world that allows this but doesn't allow that; a way that we lay out familiar territory for ourselves, fiercely bounded by shame and self-criticism, that easily stops us from bringing ourselve...
67: True Listening is Worship
March 31, 2019 13:36 - 31 minutes - 29 MBA conversation on listening, and hearing, silence and true connection. With Lizzie Winn and Justin Wise of Thirdspace. Turning Towards Life is a weekly live 30 minute conversation hosted by Thirdspace in which Justin Wise and Lizzie Winn dive deep into big questions of human living. You can find the source text and more information on this conversation at https://wp.me/p4Tynu-ec and find more, including details about how to join us live, on our website http://turningtowards.life Photo b...
65: The Best Thing for Being Sad
March 31, 2019 13:34 - 38 minutes - 35 MBWhat is it to learn in a way that allows us to be more truthful, compassionate and alive? A conversation about community with Lizzie Winn and Justin Wise of Thirdspace. This week we talk about learning. Not the kind of learning that fills us with facts, but the kind of learning that allows us to open ourselves to more spacious interpretations of our lives, and which helps us to take new kinds of action and enter into relationships that are more truthful, compassionate and alive. Along the...
63: Can You Just Love Me This Way?
March 31, 2019 13:29 - 36 minutes - 33.5 MBThis week we talk about poem Lizzie's sister Hollie wrote which has gone viral in the past year. We believe it’s so popular because of how harshly we treat our bodies in our minds and hearts, and Hollie's call for us to treat our bodies call with a simple, powerful loving-kindness. During our conversation we talk about what it is to know ourselves in a gentle way, to appreciate the miracle of an embodied life, and steps we might take to be less caught up in the punishing narrative of shame,...
64: When We Mistake Who We Are
March 31, 2019 13:28 - 34 minutes - 32 MBStepping in when life seems a mystery. A conversation about time, with Lizzie Winn and Justin Wise of Thirdspace. This week we talk about how we might understand the mystery of being human. So often both of us find ourselves in a place of real confusion, and it's tempting while there to treat the confusion as something wrong - either with life or with ourselves. We know this is true of many other people too. But there are bigger narratives to step into when life seems a mystery, or when thi...
61: Only One Wild Way
March 31, 2019 13:27 - 33 minutes - 31 MBLove, and grief, and defendedness, and the huge life-giving letting go (and welcome) that's required for us to love and be loved in return. Along the way we talk about doing the dishes, having grand plans, and the place in the middle that can hold them both. Turning Towards Life is a weekly live 30 minute conversation hosted by Thirdspace in which Justin Wise and Lizzie Winn dive deep into big questions of human living. You can find the source text and more information on this conversation...
62: Fear is Easy
March 31, 2019 13:27 - 33 minutes - 30.9 MBHow can we respond to fear without being 'had' by it? A conversation about courage and the act of remembering ourselves, with Lizzie Winn and Justin Wise of Thirdspace. This week our conversation covers the unavoidability of fear, how contagious it is, and the choices we must each make about whether to be uncritically 'had' by it, or whether to reach past it to bring forward other qualities that can help us to respond. Along the way we talk about the gifts we human beings can be to one anot...
60: How to be Happy
March 31, 2019 13:25 - 36 minutes - 33.5 MBThe possibility of happiness - living with our wonderful, messy humanity. A conversation about acceptance, with Lizzie Winn and Justin Wise of Thirdspace. This week we talk about how the suffering that comes from comparison (with others, with imagined future selves), and we examine together ways in which it might be possible to live with an alternative orientation of acceptance of our wonderful, messy humanity. Along the way we have a laugh together about this crazy being-a-person we all fi...
59: Breathing Life into This World
March 31, 2019 13:21 - 35 minutes - 32.1 MBThis week: how vulnerable and lost we human beings can feel, and how our attempts to distract ourselves from this and to appear 'ok' only tend to make things worse for us and those around us. We consider the life-giving possibilities of sharing our fears and confusions with others, what it is to trust that we're always part of something way bigger than ourselves, and the freedom that comes from knowing that being alive is always to be bringing something new into the world - even when we can'...
57: Active Hope
March 31, 2019 13:18 - 33 minutes - 30.7 MBStanding up, speaking out, and putting ourselves on the line. A conversation about hope with Lizzie Winn and Justin Wise of Thirdspace. This week we ask what it takes to take action in the world – to actually stand up, speak out, and put ourselves at risk. We explore together how shaky it can feel to do this, and how necessary in a world that deeply needs each of our gifts to be brought and contribution to be made. We wonder together what kind of faith in life, and what kind of sense of bel...
58: The Midlife Journey
March 31, 2019 13:17 - 32 minutes - 30.2 MBA conversation about mid-life transitions and transformation with Lizzie Winn and Justin Wise of Thirdspace. This week we explore together those giant transitions in life where we get remade from the outside in and from the inside out, if we’ll only let ourselves. We talk about some of the ways we resist being changed – out of fear and shame – and how life conspires in myriad ways to keep teaching us what we need to learn. And we consider the vital role of elders and community in helping on...
56: How to Tell the Truth
March 31, 2019 13:16 - 34 minutes - 31.2 MBListening as if we're wrong, even when we think we're right. A conversation about speaking and hearing truth, with Lizzie Winn and Justin Wise of Thirdspace. This week we take up truth telling, which turns out to be a deep and rich subject. In our conversation we explore what it is to work against our own habits and preferences – always the move that makes development possible – and what it is to listen, deeply, even when we don’t want to. And we talk together about the life-giving possibil...
55: Seeing to the Heart
March 31, 2019 13:15 - 32 minutes - 30.1 MBParenting ourselves, one another, and our children. A conversation about guiding one another into the world, with Lizzie Winn and Justin Wise of Thirdspace. This week we take up parenting as a question, inspired by a poem from William Martin. Our definition of parenting is broad here as we ask each other what it takes to guide anyone into the world – our children, other people’s children, our families, colleagues, friends and even our own parents. In the midst of our conversation we conside...
54: The Dakini Speaks
March 31, 2019 13:13 - 31 minutes - 29.2 MBClimate-change, despair, and the hopeful move of owning up to the limits of our power. A conversation about life's impermanence with Lizzie Winn and Justin Wise of Thirdspace. This week, in a week of further news about the mess we’re in with climate change and the urgency and despair all of that can generate, we begin with the poem ‘The Dakini Speaks’ by Joyce Wellwood. We talk together about the various ‘deals’ with life that we take up – ways of being that we imagine will protect us – and...
53: Undefended
March 31, 2019 13:09 - 30 minutes - 27.7 MBFinding a way fo drop our defences in the face of feedback from others. A conversation and dignity in relationships with Lizzie Winn and Justin Wise of Thirdspace. In this episode we take up the enormous possibilities that come when we can find a way to drop our defences in the face of feedback from other people, and whatever gift may be hidden within while maintaining our own dignity and the dignity of the other while we do. Along the way we laugh together at how messy we can be as human ...
51: The Joy of One Another
March 31, 2019 13:07 - 37 minutes - 34.1 MBOpenness, shame and the nothingness with often find when we make contact with ourselves. A conversation about openness, with Lizzie Winn and Justin Wise of Thirdspace. Our conversation opens with a piece written by Lizzie which launches us into a conversation about openness, shame, and the nothingness we often find when we make contact with ourselves. We consider that such ‘nothingness’ is another way of talking about the ground of all being from which we come and to which we return, and th...