With "discipline" and "motivation" being the buzz words for this episode, Ninja & The Birdman's conversation centers around Hardee's recent trip to Japan. Topics include classical cooking educations, seeking modern culinary innovations, a comparison of cooking to martial arts, a reflection on Bruce Lee, the pros and cons of strict discipline, bicycle-riding murderers, and more.

Some of the transition music was pulled from Soloists of the Ensemble Nipponia

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Hardee Merrit (aka Ninja) is the owner of Chapel Hill Quest Martial Arts. He has been studying To-Shin Do Ninjitsu for 21 years and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu for 16 years. He is an avid outdoorsman. Many of his skills, teachings, and product reviews are shared on his website The Ninja Everyday.

Tom Ferguson (aka The Birdman) is a chef/entrepreneur who is currently the CEO of Rise. A workaholic who has faced many struggles in his life, he now finds solace in the practice of birdwatching and photography and hopes to share this experience with others. Follow his adventures on his website Hyper Manic Birdman.

Produced, recorded, and edited by Jon Gregory (aka Juan Huevos)
Music by Jon Gregory