Even though Ninja & The Birdman are constantly pushing for their listeners to immerse themselves in their hobbies and interests, it's also important to remember the other people in your life who may or may not share your same passions. Your family is who you have to answer to at the end of the day, so how can you show them that they matter too? In this episode, Tom and Hardee talk about what happens when families and hobbies collide and how to be a better part of that family unit while still staying busy. Details include Hardee reflecting on his relationship with his young son and Tom discussing a recent family trip to Costa Rica that might have included some birding.

The background music during this episode's Zenspiration was called "Beautiful Asian Music Instrumental" and was made by Fantasy & World Music by the Fiechters

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Hardee Merrit (aka Ninja) is the owner of Chapel Hill Quest Martial Arts. He has been studying To-Shin Do Ninjitsu for 21 years and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu for 16 years. He is an avid outdoorsman. Many of his skills, teachings, and product reviews are shared on his website The Ninja Everyday.

Tom Ferguson (aka The Birdman) is a chef/entrepreneur who is currently the CEO of Rise. A workaholic who has faced many struggles in his life, he now finds solace in the practice of birdwatching and photography and hopes to share this experience with others. Follow his adventures on his website Hyper Manic Birdman.

Produced, recorded, and edited by Jon Gregory (aka Juan Huevos)
Music by Jon Gregory