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What Next TBD: The Trap of Buy Now, Pay Later
November 27, 2022 08:00 - 34 minutesThe option to “buy now and pay later” over installments exploded over the past two years, thanks to people being flush with stimulus cash and shopping online during the pandemic. But is this new, underregulated industry a useful line of credit or another path into debt? Guest: Paulina Cachero, personal finance reporter for Bloomberg. Host: Lizzie O’Leary If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast, bo...
Slate Money: Fleishman is in Trouble
November 26, 2022 10:00 - 41 minutesThis week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers are joined by New York Times Magazine writer and Fleishman is in Trouble author Taffy Brodesser-Akner to talk about wealth, class and the media industry, specifically through the lens of the Fleishman is in Trouble book and new limited TV series. In the Plus segment: what is everyone thankful for this Thanksgiving? Podcast production by Anna Phillips. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
What Next TBD: The End of the Tech Boom
November 20, 2022 08:00 - 31 minutesAfter decades as America’s booming industry, tens of thousands of tech workers have been laid off in November alone. Is the venture-capital, low-interest-rate wind leaving the sails temporary or is this the end of the hunt for “the next big thing?” Guest: Timothy B. Lee, reporter for Full Stack Economics covering labor markets, technology, and housing. Host: Lizzie O’Leary If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on an...
ICYMI: What's Going to Happen to Twitter?
November 19, 2022 10:00 - 42 minutesOn today’s episode, Rachelle is joined by Lizzie O’Leary, the host of Slate’s tech podcast What Next: TBD. The two discuss Elon Musk’s takeover of Twitter, whether or not Musk has broken any laws and what the future of the platform might look like. This podcast is produced by Daniel Schroeder, Daisy Rosario, Emily Charash and Rachelle Hampton. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Slate Money: Enron 2
November 19, 2022 10:00 - 1 hourThis week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers discuss updates in the collapse of crypto exchange platform FTX and how the situation compares to past business downfalls. They also talk about Joan Didion’s estate sale. In the Plus segment: the death of Twitter. Podcast production by Anna Phillips. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
What Next TBD: The Case Against Climate Reparations
November 18, 2022 08:00 - 33 minutesAt this year’s annual UN conference on climate change, they are discussing “climate reparations,” wherein the rich countries that grew their wealth burning fossil fuels pay money to poorer and more vulnerable countries. It sounds sensible, but is the UN capable of administering something like this? And how much money are we talking here? Guest: Vijay Vaitheeswaran, global energy and climate innovation editor at The Economist. Host: Lizzie O’Leary If you enjoy this show, please consider sig...
What Next TBD: Is This The Cryptocalypse?
November 13, 2022 08:00 - 33 minutesThe (once) second-largest cryptocurrency exchange, FTX, collapsed in stunning fashion this week, highlighting why consumers really do want regulation, and why old financial institutions remain wary of crypto. Guest: Felix Salmon, host of Slate Money, chief financial correspondent for Axios. Host: Lizzie O’Leary If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast, bonus episodes of shows like Slow Burn and D...
Slate Money: WTF SBF
November 12, 2022 10:00 - 57 minutesThis week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and What Next TBD host Lizzie O’Leary discuss the ongoing disaster at crypto exchange platform FTX. They also talk about the slightly smaller meltdowns at Twitter and Meta. In the Plus segment: the sale of Paul Allen’s art collection. Podcast production by Anna Phillips. Thanks Avast.com! Learn more about Avast One at Avast.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
What Next TBD: Senator Chris Murphy on Elon's Acquisition of Twitter
November 11, 2022 08:00 - 22 minutesThe second largest investor in Twitter, after Elon Musk, is the Saudis, which raises questions about what kinds of “free speech” Musk is really committed to. But it also raises questions around national security in the U.S. Guest: Chris Murphy, U.S. Senator from Connecticut Host: Lizzie O’Leary If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast, bonus episodes of shows like Slow Burn and Dear Prudence—and y...
What Next TBD: Why Are So Many Little Kids Sick Right Now?
November 06, 2022 08:00 - 28 minutesIt’s been a rough autumn for parents of little kids, as non-COVID respiratory diseases are taking advantage of the first fall since 2019 where schools and daycares are full again, and America’s strained pediatric health care system is once again put to the test. Guest: Katherine Wu, science writer for The Atlantic. Host: Lizzie O’Leary. Podcast production by Madeline Ducharme. If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads o...
Slate Money: Homecoming
November 05, 2022 09:00 - 1 hourThis week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers are joined by Financial Times columnist and editor Rana Foroohar to discuss her new book, Homecoming: The Path to Prosperity in a Post-Global World. In the Plus segment: What’s the deal with workplace surveillance? Podcast production by Anna Phillips. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
What Next TBD: So How’s It Going, Elon?
November 04, 2022 07:00 - 31 minutesOne week in as head honcho of Twitter and Elon Musk is in a tight spot: how do you balance the desires of advertisers with your ostensible zeal for free speech? How do you make something for which you’ve already overpaid turn a profit? How do you convince Stephen King to pony up for a blue check? Guest: Alex Kirshner, contributing writer at Slate. Host: Lizzie O’Leary If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Sl...
Slate Money: Memelord Takeover
October 29, 2022 09:00 - 55 minutesThis week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers are joined by Bloomberg Opinion columnist Matt Levine to talk about his Bloomberg Businessweek article The Crypto Story. They also discuss Elon Musk finally closing his Twitter deal and restructuring at Credit Suisse. In the Plus segment: more crypto! Podcast production by Anna Phillips. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
What Next TBD: Twitter Is Dead; Long Live Twitter
October 28, 2022 07:00 - 42 minutesTwitter has been a lot of things—where you posted your lunch, where you met your people, where you were subjected to a harassment campaign. Now, as Elon Musk prepares to take the reins, where is it headed? Guest: Will Oremus, technology reporter for the Washington Post. Host: Lizzie O’Leary If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast, bonus episodes of shows like Slow Burn and Dear Prudence—and you’ll ...
How To!: Put Your Town on the Map
October 25, 2022 07:00 - 36 minutesIf you’ve ever vacationed on the beaches of Delaware, chances are you drove right by Smyrna. It’s a small but charming town that’s been bypassed by the main highways. Which is why Mike, a small business owner on the town council, wants to create a spectacular, engaging roadside attraction to tempt tourists into town. The only snag? He doesn’t know what to actually build. On this episode of How To!, we bring on roadside attraction aficionado Erika Nelson. She’s the creator of The World’s Large...
One Year - 1942: The Most Hated Man in America
October 24, 2022 07:00 - 47 minutesAt the beginning of World War II, the greatest threat to the American war effort wasn’t the Nazis or the Japanese—it was runaway inflation. The man in charge of stopping it was the country’s “price czar,” Leon Henderson. In 1942, he controlled how much coffee ordinary people could drink and how many tires they could buy. Those rules made him a nationwide villain. But would they save the country? One Year is produced by Evan Chung, Sophie Summergrad, Sam Kim, and Josh Levin. Derek John is sen...
Slate Money: Meet Me by the Fountain
October 22, 2022 09:00 - 52 minutesThis week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers are joined by design critic Alexandra Lange to talk about her book Meet Me by the Fountain: An Inside History of the Mall on the evolution of shopping malls in America. In the Plus segment: How online shopping has affected malls. Podcast production by Jessamine Molli. Thanks Avast.com! Learn more about Avast One at Avast.com If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zer...
ICYMI: What’s It Like Being a Twitch Streamer?
October 22, 2022 09:00 - 39 minutesA lot has been happening around Twitch, a platform that really seems to live in its own world on the internet. On today’s show, Rachelle is joined by Gita Jackson who explains exactly why Twitch can feel so insular even though the audience is enormous. They also talk about the poorly planned TwitchCon, and the horrible things that have led streamer Amouranth to take a break from the site. This podcast is produced by Daniel Schroeder, Rachelle Hampton, and Daisy Rosario. Subscribe to Slate P...
What Next TBD: When An Algorithm Raises Your Rent
October 21, 2022 07:00 - 34 minutesOne company’s software is helping set prices for apartments across the country. But when does an algorithm telling landlords how much to charge—by drawing on property data—cross the line from “handy tool” to “illegal price-fixing”? Guest: Heather Vogell, reporter with ProPublica Host: Lizzie O'Leary If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast, bonus episodes of shows like Slow Burn and Dear Prudence—a...
What Next TBD: Are You Ready to Be Composted When You Die?
October 16, 2022 07:00 - 32 minutesThe idea of composting a human body may seem unsettling—or even gross—and it runs counter to the normal American funeral rites of embalming and internment, which preserve the body. But advocates say it’s a greener and more peaceful way to return our bodies to the Earth. Guest: Eleanor Cummins, science journalist Host: Lizzie O’Leary If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast, bonus episodes of shows li...
Slate Money: We Can’t Quit Elon
October 15, 2022 07:00 - 48 minutesThis week, Emily Peck, Elizabeth Spiers and guest host Ed Lee discuss inflation, the first policymaker to win an economics Nobel Prize, and begrudgingly, updates in the Elon Musk Twitter saga. In the Plus segment: introducing a new anti-woke bank. If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast, bonus episodes of shows like Slow Burn and Dear Prudence—and you’ll be supporting the work we do here on Slate...
What Next TBD: The Next Amazon Union Fight
October 14, 2022 07:00 - 31 minutesFollowing their victory in Staten Island, the Amazon Labor Union is still facing an uphill battle. Both the company and the union are closely watching the organizing vote at a warehouse outside of Albany, NY. Guest: Noam Scheiber, labor reporter for the New York Times. Host: Lizzie O'Leary If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast, bonus episodes of shows like Slow Burn and Dear Prudence—and you’ll be...
What Next TBD: When Your Church Surveils Your Phone
October 09, 2022 07:00 - 24 minutesChurches are using accountability apps to keep tabs on their members' behavior. But if your pastor wants to monitor your phone, can you truly consent? Guest: Dhruv Mehrotra Host: Lizzie O'Leary Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Slate Money: Felix Learns What A Condo Is
October 08, 2022 09:00 - 57 minutesThis week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers are joined by housing market analyst and real estate appraiser Jonathan Miller to answer all their burning real estate questions including what’s going on with mortgage rates, how do new luxury buildings affect prices, and why is rent so damn high? In the Plus segment: Why do people want so much space? Podcast production by Jessamine Molli. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
What Next TBD: Could the Supreme Court Kill the Internet As We Know It?
October 07, 2022 07:00 - 30 minutesTwenty-six words defined the internet as we know it today. What happens if they’re deleted? Guest: Jeff Kosseff Host: Lizzie O'Leary The Twenty-Six Words That Created the Internet Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
What Next: Congress Can't Quit the Stock Market
October 05, 2022 07:00 - 26 minutesA bipartisan effort to prevent members of Congress from trading stock while in office is wildly popular. But so far, no such bill has gained much traction on Capitol Hill. Why? Guest: Sam Brodey, congressional reporter for The Daily Beast. If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast, bonus episodes of shows like Slow Burn and Dear Prudence—and you’ll be supporting the work we do here on What Next. Sign...
What Next TBD: The Philosopher With Silicon Valley's Ear
October 02, 2022 07:00 - 58 minutesLongtermism, the idea that positively influencing the future is a key moral priority of our time, is hot in Silicon Valley. But does it miss the bigger picture? Guests: William MacAskill, Robert Wright Host: Lizzie O'Leary Thanks Avast.com! Learn more about Avast One at Avast.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Slate Money: Skandal!
October 01, 2022 09:30 - 51 minutesThis week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers are joined by Dan McCrum of the Financial Times to discuss the economic crisis in the UK, Skandal! Bringing Down Wirecard, the Netflix adaptation of his recent book, and the 10-year-old who is selling paintings for six figures. In the Plus segment: Porsche’s IPO Podcast production by Jessamine Molli. Thanks Avast.com! Learn more about Avast One at Avast.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The Waves: Student Debt Relief is Feminist
September 30, 2022 11:46 - 29 minutesOn this week’s episode of The Waves, Lizzie O'Leary host of What Next: TBD is joined by Emily Peck co-host of Slate Money to explain the new Student Debt Relief Plan. They delve into the reason women often carry more debt on average and why they stand to benefit the most from even modest relief. Then, Lizzie and Emily unpack debt-relief criticism itself, what Biden’s plan does well, and where it could improve. In Slate Plus, some hard-hitting, in-depth analysis on whether or not laundry-fold...
What Next TBD: When Climate Change Makes You Sell Your House
September 30, 2022 07:00 - 28 minutesWith disaster relief funds from Hurricane Harvey, Houston's Harris County instituted a mandatory buyout program for residents in flood-prone areas. But some residents didn't want to leave. Guest: Amal Ahmed, Dolores Mendoza Host: Mary C. Curtis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
What Next TBD: Can Nuclear Power Be Green?
September 25, 2022 07:00 - 26 minutesNuclear technology has become more important than ever, thanks to a global energy crisis and climate change. But it also has a complicated history. Guest: Joshua Keating Host: Lizzie O'Leary Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Slate Money: First Class Food Fomo
September 24, 2022 07:00 - 43 minutesThis week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers discuss the sale of Citrix, Barbados’ Blue Bonds, and how fancy food could save airlines. In the Plus segment: The economics of timeshares. Podcast production by Jessamine Molli. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
What Next TBD: The Fight Over Online Speech Headed to the Supreme Court
September 23, 2022 07:00 - 33 minutesConservative lawmakers in Florida and Texas are taking aim at content moderation on social media, with implications that go far beyond just the platforms. Guest: Mark Joseph Stern Host: Lizzie O'Leary Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
How To!: Pick a College (And Actually Afford It)
September 20, 2022 07:00 - 38 minutesCollege application season is approaching fast—too fast—for 16-yr old Maya and her mother, Melissa. The problem? Maya has no idea where to go or what to study. It doesn’t help that there are thousands of schools to choose from, and little transparency about their true cost. On this episode of How To!, we bring on Ron Lieber, New York Times money columnist and author of The Price You Pay for College. He shows Maya how to narrow down the list of potential colleges by asking insightful questions...
What Next TBD: The Hidden Abuse Behind Those Spam Texts You're Getting
September 18, 2022 07:00 - 31 minutesVictims of a new and high tech kind of human trafficking are forced to scam people all around the world. Guest: Cezary Podkul Host: Lizzie O'Leary Human Trafficking’s Newest Abuse: Forcing Victims Into Cyberscamming Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Slate Money: It's All Paul Newman’s Fault
September 17, 2022 07:00 - 53 minutesThis week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers discuss the tax implications of Patagonia’s founder giving the company a climate change nonprofit, the US railroad strike that almost was, and Adobe’s acquisition of Figma. In the Plus segment: Farm shares Podcast production by Jessamine Molli. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
What Next TBD: How Big Internet Keeps Small Communities Disconnected
September 16, 2022 07:00 - 27 minutesA small parish in Louisiana tried to get affordable, fast internet. An incumbent ISP stopped them. Guest: Issie Lapowsky, Wanda Manning Host: Lizzie O'Leary Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
How To!: Make the Leap to Your Dream Job
September 13, 2022 07:00 - 39 minutesWhen Trish first started working in corporate recruiting, she had wonderful co-workers, a supportive manager, opportunities for growth—it was “bliss.” But the bliss evaporated in 2020 when she got laid off during the pandemic. She’s since found a different job in the same field, but also decided to try her hand at teaching pilates part-time. Now, after burning the candle at both ends, Trish is burned out and unsure of the best path forward. On this episode of How To!, we bring on Nathan and S...
What Next TBD: The Chaos That Made YouTube a Juggernaut
September 11, 2022 07:00 - 35 minutesAn inside look at the rise of YouTube into a social media behemoth. Guests: Mark Bergen and Claire Stapleton Host: Lizzie O'Leary Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Slate Money: DWAC SPAC Setback
September 10, 2022 07:00 - 48 minutesThis week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers discuss England’s late queen and new prime minister, the troubles of DWAC’s SPAC, and the demise of girlboss hangout The Wing. In the Plus segment: Citibank’s victory. Podcast production by Jessamine Molli. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
What Next TBD: Can A.I. Make Great Art?
September 09, 2022 07:00 - 29 minutesTechnology is transforming the creative economy and ideas about what "art" even is. Guest: Drew Harwell Host: Lizzie O'Leary Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
What Next TBD: The Summer Vaccine of the Future
September 04, 2022 07:00 - 20 minutesLYMErix, the first vaccine against Lyme, was pulled from the market amid poor sales and pressure from the public. Now, over 20 years later, a new vaccine is in late-stage trials. Guest: Cassandra Willyard Host: Lizzie O'Leary Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Slate Money: Quiet Quitting
September 03, 2022 07:00 - 45 minutesThis week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers discuss the reasons behind the current labor shortage, the concept of “quiet quitting”, and the proposed fast-food labor council in California. In the Plus segment: Stacy-Marie Ishmael returns to talk about Michael Saylor’s alleged tax evasion. Podcast production by Jessamine Molli. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
What Next TBD: A.I. Made to Fight Child Porn Ensnared an Innocent Dad
September 02, 2022 07:00 - 28 minutesA father took a photo of his son for their doctor. He wound up being investigated by the police. Guest: Kashmir Hill Host: Lizzie O'Leary Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
How To!: Unbreak the News
August 30, 2022 06:00 - 38 minutesAbout five or six years ago, host Amanda Ripley started noticing that her normal news diet left her feeling depleted and depressed. She tried mixing up her news habits, even avoiding it for awhile, but nothing helped. It felt like a shameful secret. Shouldn’t journalists love consuming the news? She began to wonder, is it me....or is it the news itself? On this episode of How To!, the first of two parts, we’ll hear from several of our listeners who feel the same way. We’ll also talk with Nico...
What Next TBD: The Streaming TV Bloodbath
August 28, 2022 07:00 - 28 minutesShows are disappearing. Staff are getting axed. Is It greed, or necessary for the networks' survival? Guest: Julia Alexander Host: Lizzie O'Leary Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Slate Money: APE
August 27, 2022 07:00 - 48 minutesThis week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers discuss the Biden administration student loan debt forgiveness plan, the cancellation saga of Dan Price, and AMC’s “APE units”. In the Plus segment: More on student loan debt forgiveness. Podcast production by Jessamine Molli. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
What Next TBD: The Hacker Blowing the Whistle on Twitter
August 26, 2022 07:00 - 35 minutesLegendary hacker Peiter "Mudge" Zatko’s reputation in the cybersecurity world is unmatched. His allegations against Twitter’s security are all the more damning because of it. Guest: Joseph Menn Host: Lizzie O'Leary Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
What Next TBD: We're Expecting the Wrong Things From the CDC
August 21, 2022 07:00 - 28 minutesThere's no way to remove politics from public health. Guest: Tim Requarth Host: Lizzie O'Leary Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Slate Money: What is Flow?
August 20, 2022 07:00 - 47 minutesThis week, Felix Salmon, and Elizabeth Spiers are joined by Eric Newcomer to discuss his piece on Marc Andreessen’s surprising choice to back Adam Neumann’s new company Flow, the current VC landscape, and Bed, Bath & Beyond’s wild meme-stock moment. In the Plus segment: Eric’s interview with Uber’s former business chief. Podcast production by Jessamine Molli. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices