132: Embed Friendly Alternative to LiveView?

LiveView isn't always the right answer. Chris Nelson created LiveState to enable embedding custom HTML components in other websites and connect over Phoenix channels to keep UI state on the server! LiveState takes an interesting approach that tries to keep many of the benefits of LiveView but apply it to situations like custom components in static sites hosted by other people. Chris explains how it works and what problems it solves. Check it out!
Show Notes online - http://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/132 (http://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/132)
Elixir Community News
- Happy New Year! Welcome to 2023!
- https://elixir-lang.org/blog/2022/12/22/cheatsheets-and-8-other-features-in-exdoc-that-improve-the-developer-experience/ (https://elixir-lang.org/blog/2022/12/22/cheatsheets-and-8-other-features-in-exdoc-that-improve-the-developer-experience/) – ElixirLang blog post highlighting some ExDoc features
- https://twitter.com/hugobarauna/status/1605283803668221952 (https://twitter.com/hugobarauna/status/1605283803668221952) – Hugo Baraúna used the new ExDoc Cheatsheet feature to add a couple Cheatsheets for Ecto.
- https://hexdocs.pm/ecto/crud.html (https://hexdocs.pm/ecto/crud.html)
- https://hexdocs.pm/ecto/associations.html (https://hexdocs.pm/ecto/associations.html)
- https://github.com/lukegalea/LiveBookGoogleColab/blob/main/GoogleColabhostedElixirLiveBook%2BBumbleeBeeonGPU(StableDiffusion%2BGPT2)v10.ipynb (https://github.com/lukegalea/LiveBook_GoogleColab/blob/main/Google_Colab_hosted_Elixir_LiveBook_%2B_BumbleeBee_on_GPU_(Stable_Diffusion_%2B_GPT_2)_v1_0.ipynb) – Luke Galea created a Livebook online with an “Open in Colab” link at the top that goes through Jupyter notebooks to run Livebook on Google Colab's free tier.
- https://www.reddit.com/r/elixir/comments/zq5d2z/runelixirlivebookwbumbleebeeongpuforfree/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/elixir/comments/zq5d2z/run_elixir_livebook_w_bumbleebee_on_gpu_for_free/)
- https://github.com/am-kantox/finitomata (https://github.com/am-kantox/finitomata) – Aleksei Matiushkin released a library called Finitomata that reads your PlantUML or Mermaid chart and create a state machine from it
- https://twitter.com/elixirmembrane/status/1605519154689310721 (https://twitter.com/elixirmembrane/status/1605519154689310721) – The membrane library “membranertcengine” announced v0.8.
- https://github.com/membraneframework/membranertcengine (https://github.com/membraneframework/membrane_rtc_engine)
- https://elixirforum.com/t/webauthnlivecomponent-passwordless-auth-for-liveview-apps/49941/12 (https://elixirforum.com/t/webauthnlivecomponent-passwordless-auth-for-liveview-apps/49941/12) – Owen Bickford has released some early support for passkeys in browsers and mobile devices
- https://blog.chromium.org/2022/12/introducing-passkeys-in-chrome.html (https://blog.chromium.org/2022/12/introducing-passkeys-in-chrome.html)
- https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/sign-in-with-passkeys-iphf538ea8d0/16.0/ios/16.0 (https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/sign-in-with-passkeys-iphf538ea8d0/16.0/ios/16.0)
- https://hex.pm/packages/webauthnlivecomponent (https://hex.pm/packages/webauthn_live_component) – Owen's library on Hex
Do you have some Elixir news to share? Tell us at @ThinkingElixir (https://twitter.com/ThinkingElixir) or email at [email protected] (mailto:[email protected])
Discussion Resources
- https://launchscout.com/ (https://launchscout.com/)
- https://launchscout.com/blog/embedded-web-apps-with-livestate (https://launchscout.com/blog/embedded-web-apps-with-livestate) – Blog post talking about LiveState
- https://github.com/launchscout/live_state (https://github.com/launchscout/live_state) – server-side of LiveState
- https://github.com/launchscout/live-state (https://github.com/launchscout/live-state) – npm package for client-side of LiveState
- https://github.com/launchscout/livestate-comments (https://github.com/launchscout/livestate-comments) – demo showing how LiveState works
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLamITBMoVI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLamITBMoVI) – ElixirConf 2022 video
- https://www.w3.org/TR/css-shadow-parts-1/ (https://www.w3.org/TR/css-shadow-parts-1/)
- https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Web_Components (https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Web_Components)
- https://hexdocs.pm/phoenix/channels.html (https://hexdocs.pm/phoenix/channels.html)
- https://disqus.com/ (https://disqus.com/)
- https://www.w3.org/TR/css3-cascade/#inherit-initial (https://www.w3.org/TR/css3-cascade/#inherit-initial)
- https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/WebComponents/Usingcustom_elements (https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Web_Components/Using_custom_elements)
Guest Information
- https://twitter.com/superchris (https://twitter.com/superchris) – on Twitter
- https://github.com/superchris/ (https://github.com/superchris/) – on Github
- https://launchscout.com/blog/ (https://launchscout.com/blog/) – Blog
- [email protected]
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LiveView isn't always the right answer. Chris Nelson created LiveState to enable embedding custom HTML components in other websites and connect over Phoenix channels to keep UI state on the server! LiveState takes an interesting approach that tries to keep many of the benefits of LiveView but apply it to situations like custom components in static sites hosted by other people. Chris explains how it works and what problems it solves. Check it out!

Show Notes online - http://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/132

Elixir Community News

Happy New Year! Welcome to 2023!
https://elixir-lang.org/blog/2022/12/22/cheatsheets-and-8-other-features-in-exdoc-that-improve-the-developer-experience/ – ElixirLang blog post highlighting some ExDoc features
https://twitter.com/hugobarauna/status/1605283803668221952 – Hugo Baraúna used the new ExDoc Cheatsheet feature to add a couple Cheatsheets for Ecto.
https://hexdocs.pm/ecto/crud.html
https://hexdocs.pm/ecto/associations.html
https://github.com/lukegalea/LiveBook_GoogleColab/blob/main/Google_Colab_hosted_Elixir_LiveBook_%2B_BumbleeBee_on_GPU_(Stable_Diffusion_%2B_GPT_2)_v1_0.ipynb – Luke Galea created a Livebook online with an “Open in Colab” link at the top that goes through Jupyter notebooks to run Livebook on Google Colab's free tier.
https://www.reddit.com/r/elixir/comments/zq5d2z/run_elixir_livebook_w_bumbleebee_on_gpu_for_free/
https://github.com/am-kantox/finitomata – Aleksei Matiushkin released a library called Finitomata that reads your PlantUML or Mermaid chart and create a state machine from it
https://twitter.com/elixirmembrane/status/1605519154689310721 – The membrane library “membrane_rtc_engine” announced v0.8.
https://github.com/membraneframework/membrane_rtc_engine
https://elixirforum.com/t/webauthnlivecomponent-passwordless-auth-for-liveview-apps/49941/12 – Owen Bickford has released some early support for passkeys in browsers and mobile devices
https://blog.chromium.org/2022/12/introducing-passkeys-in-chrome.html
https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/sign-in-with-passkeys-iphf538ea8d0/16.0/ios/16.0
https://hex.pm/packages/webauthn_live_component – Owen's library on Hex

Do you have some Elixir news to share? Tell us at @ThinkingElixir or email at [email protected]

Discussion Resources

https://launchscout.com/
https://launchscout.com/blog/embedded-web-apps-with-livestate – Blog post talking about LiveState
https://github.com/launchscout/live_state – server-side of LiveState
https://github.com/launchscout/live-state – npm package for client-side of LiveState
https://github.com/launchscout/livestate-comments – demo showing how LiveState works
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLamITBMoVI – ElixirConf 2022 video
https://www.w3.org/TR/css-shadow-parts-1/
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Web_Components
https://hexdocs.pm/phoenix/channels.html
https://disqus.com/
https://www.w3.org/TR/css3-cascade/#inherit-initial
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Web_Components/Using_custom_elements

Guest Information

https://twitter.com/superchris – on Twitter
https://github.com/superchris/ – on Github
https://launchscout.com/blog/ – Blog
[email protected]

Find us online

Message the show - @ThinkingElixir
Message the show on Mastadon - @[email protected]
Email the show - [email protected]
Mark Ericksen - @brainlid
Mark Ericksen on Mastadon - @[email protected]
David Bernheisel - @bernheisel
David Bernheisel on Mastadon - @[email protected]
Cade Ward - @cadebward
Cade Ward on Mastadon - @[email protected]

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