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How to Go From Pink-Slipped to Parties

April 25, 2023 16:00 - 28 minutes - 26 MB

When the dot-com bubble burst back in 2000, Allison Hemming was one of the many laid-off employees. At the time, she planned a get together and networking event with fellow-laid off employees to swap career advice, commiserate, and meet with recruiters, and this meetings turned into what she dubbed “pink slip parties.” Now, as more than 100,000 employees in the tech and media industries have faced layoffs over the past year, we talk to Allison Hemming, CEO of The Hired Guns, a tech-recruit...

Supreme Court Upholds Mifepristone Access, for Now

April 24, 2023 20:25 - 13 minutes - 12 MB

On Friday, the Supreme Court issued a stay on a lower court ruling. The stay ensures that, for now, the abortion pill mifepristone will remain widely available. Mifepristone was first approved as safe and effective for ending pregnancies more than 20 years ago. But earlier this month, U.S. District Judge Matthew Kacsmaryk, a federal judge in Texas appointed by former President Donald Trump, suspended the Food and Drug Administration’s approval of mifepristone.  The U.S. Court of Appeals fo...

Bozoma Saint John, Urgently Living after Grief

April 24, 2023 16:00 - 20 minutes - 18.8 MB

Noted Businesswoman and marketing maven, Bozoma Saint John, joins us to talk about her new book “The Urgent Life: My Story of Love, Loss and Survival,” which chronicles the difficult moments she’s survived and her choice to live life urgently.      

Happy World Earth Day

April 22, 2023 16:00 - 46 minutes - 42.2 MB

How Indigenous Water Protectors Paved Way for Future Activism March 10, 2017, file photo, America Indians and their supporters protest outside of the White House in Washington, to rally against the construction of the disputed Dakota Access oil pipeline. (Jose Luis Magana, File/AP Photo) Original Air Date: 4/22/22 Many Indigenous communities live on land that is being directly impacted by climate change. As resistance to fossil fuel production has grown in recent years, Indigenous people...

Ralph Yarl Deserves to be a Kid

April 21, 2023 16:40 - 15 minutes - 13.8 MB

Original Air Date: April 19, 2023 It’s an act that’s familiar to countless older siblings around the nation: pick up your younger siblings from afterschool, the bus stop, maybe even another friend’s house and then walk them home. It’s an act that took a decidedly dangerous and near deadly turn for the 16-year-old “gentle soul”, clarinet player and member of his high school marching band – Ralph Yarl. Hundreds marched and called for justice after Ralph Yarl was shot twice – once in the hea...

A Look at Coachella 2023: Weekend One

April 20, 2023 18:55 - 12 minutes - 11.3 MB

Original Air Date: April 20, 2023 As weekend one of Coachella wrapped up last week and we head into weekend two of the three-day music festival, we check in with Pitchfork staff writer Allison Hussey about the highs, lows, and the lesser-known artists of Coachella.  You can catch her Coachella coverage at pitchfork.com. 

Larissa Fasthorse On Finding the Humor in Performative Wokeness

April 20, 2023 16:00 - 26 minutes - 23.9 MB

"MacArthur Genius Larissa FastHorse’s shocking satire flips the bird on one of America's most prolific myths."  Larissa Fasthorse is one of the first Indigenous women to have her play produced on Broadway. The Thanksgiving Play is one of six plays coming out written by Larissa Fasthorse in 2023. The Thanksgiving Play centers indigenous issues through the lens of a small community’s attempt at staging a “socially-conscious thanksgiving play.” Fasthorse joins The Takeaway to talk about The...

Puff Puff Passing Marijuana Legislation

April 20, 2023 16:00 - 13 minutes - 12.1 MB

The stoner classics Scary Movie and Friday envisioned a future where “puff, puff, pass” is the norm. And the majority of states across the nation have acquiesced. Recent years have seen a spate of laws in state legislatures that make weed legal for medical and recreational purposes. Federally, the issue of marijuana legalization appears to have stalled, but recent bills introduced in congress point towards a future of possible bipartisan support for the drug’s legalization. Senior editor...

Little Richard, the Architect of Rock n' Roll

April 19, 2023 18:50 - 16 minutes - 15.2 MB

Little Richard was a larger-than-life entertainer and personality which is captured by the new documentary, “Little Richard: I Am Everything.”    We speak with the film’s director, Lisa Cortes. (Photo courtesy of Magnolia Pictures)  

23 MAYORS IN 2023: Michelle Wu, Boston, Massachusetts

April 19, 2023 16:00 - 13 minutes - 12.3 MB

As part of our "23 Mayors in 2023" series, we head to Boston, Massachusetts. At the age of 36, Michelle Wu was elected as the first woman and the first person of color to become mayor of Boston 2021. Boston is the 23rd largest city in America, with a population of almost 700,000. A diverse, and very young city, Boston has the highest percentage of 20-34 year olds of the top 25 largest cities in America. But challenges with racial inequality in Boston persist. We speak with Mayor Michelle ...

Is The NFL Draft Exploitative?

April 18, 2023 16:00 - 16 minutes - 14.7 MB

Making it to the NFL is the dream of countless young boys and men across the nation. Less than 2-percent of college football players will make it to the NFL. For those who do make it, before they can don the uniform of a professional team and see those dreams realized, they must be selected in the NFL draft. Draft day is like winning the lottery for those selected to play on an NFL team, but the draft isn’t without its critics who find the process dehumanizing. Former NFL quarterback Colin...

Writers Could Strike on Hollywood for the First Time in 15 Years

April 18, 2023 16:00 - 12 minutes - 11.6 MB

Hollywood and the writers that make movies and TV shows possible are in the middle of a labor battle, which could bring Hollywood to a halt for the first time in 15 years.  On Monday, members in the Writers Guild of America union cast their last ballots, and the union announced that 97.85 percent of members voted to authorized a strike.  The writers’ union is currently in negotiations with Hollywood studios. The current contract ends on May 1st, which is when the strike would begin if both...

Black Maternal Health Week Comes to an End

April 17, 2023 19:43 - 13 minutes - 11.9 MB

Today marks the last day of Black Maternal Health Week. A week that sheds light on the rise of maternal mortality in the US. We speak with Loretta Ross an activist, educator, author, and co-founder of SisterSong Women of Color Reproductive Justice Collective, as well as the co-creator of the theory of reproductive justice. Ross has traveled the world at the invitation of leaders and activists to speak about reproductive justice, and in 2022 she was the recipient of a MacArthur Fellowship “...

Whose Bodies Does Broadway Cast, and Whose Does It Cast Aside?

April 17, 2023 16:00 - 14 minutes - 12.9 MB

In the new book, “Broadway Bodies: A Critical History of Conformity," Ryan Donovan looks at Broadway musicals and casting from 1970 to 2020 and the bodies that Broadway has historically excluded from its stages, based on size, gender, disability, and how that intersects with race and ethnicity, and the shows that are not making an effort to be more inclusive.  Ryan Donovan, an Assistant Professor of Theater Studies at Duke University joins the show to talk about his new book, “Broadway Bodi...

The World of Digital Book Influencers

April 15, 2023 16:00 - 17 minutes - 15.7 MB

Americans buy more than 800 million books a year. And even though the pandemic era bump in book sales has stabilized, publishing remains a multi-billion dollar industry. There’s a booming genre of online content that is transforming the publishing industry. It’s called “book influencing” where book reviewers online find creative ways across social media platforms to discuss what they are reading. Kelsey Weekman, internet culture reporter for Buzzfeed News, joins us to discuss how these in...

Robin Thede is Making Room for More Black Women in Comedy

April 15, 2023 03:00 - 15 minutes - 13.9 MB

Original Air Date: July 13, 2022 Since 2019, "A Black Lady Sketch Show" has served as a testament to just how wonderfully weird and insightful things get when some of the best Black women comedians gather.  Its success is due in large part to the vision of creator and star Robin Thede. On Tuesday, June 12, it was announced that Thede's timely and iconic sketch comedy show was nominated for a third year in a row. This year the show is nominatd for 5 Emmy nominations including: Outstanding Va...

Former Olympian Dominique Dawes on Simone Biles, Mental Health, and More

April 14, 2023 19:21 - 13 minutes - 12.4 MB

Original Air Date: July 29, 2021 The decision by gymnast Simone Biles to not compete in the Olympic Team Finals or the all-around individual competition in order to prioritize her mental health left many wondering why.  Former Olympian and gold medalist Dominique Dawes joins The Takeaway to give an insider perspective on the pressure young women gymnasts face and why this decision by Biles may be her greatest feat yet.

Holly Robinson Peete, An Advocate for Autism

April 14, 2023 19:19 - 14 minutes - 13.4 MB

Original Air Date: January 11, 2022 Actress, author and “gangsta mom of four” Holly Robinson Peete joins us to talk about her advocacy work for kids on the autism spectrum and her decision to go public about her son’s diagnosis.

What Makes a Black Man?

April 13, 2023 16:00 - 13 minutes - 11.9 MB

Jonathan Majors is one of Hollywood’s swiftest rising stars. And he presented a version of masculinity that pushed back against the heavily policed boundaries set by society and Black men themselves. Majors’ version of masculinity welcomed softness and vulnerability – it also drew the ire of those who found his gender performance emasculating and pointed towards the “feminization” of Black men. Boyce Watkins, PhD / @drboycewatkins1 (Twitter) When he was arrested at the end of March on c...

Human Composting is Legal in New York—Now What?

April 13, 2023 16:00 - 19 minutes - 18 MB

In the face of so many environmental crises caused by climate change, more and more Americans have been thinking about their carbon footprints. Not only the footprints we make by living — but also the ones we make by dying. An alternative method to burial and cremation has been gaining interest across the country, and it recently became legal in New York: human composting. But legalization is really just the start of the story. Human composting still faces a few major barriers before New Y...

Meet the Librarians of TikTok

April 12, 2023 16:00 - 16 minutes - 15.1 MB

Librarians across the country are using TikTok to advertise their services, connect with communities and put their libraries on the national map... And they're pretty funny! We talk with three librarians about their strategies, goals, and experiences as library workers during a time of rising right-wing attacks on books and library funding. We speak with Rhea Gardner and Mychal Threets, both supervising librarians at Solano County Library in California — and they run the library's TikTok! V...

Rutgers University Faculty are on Strike

April 12, 2023 16:00 - 12 minutes - 11.5 MB

On Monday, at Rutgers University in New Jersey, thousands of professors, part-time lecturers, and graduate and undergraduate students marched together holding signs that read, “We R on strike for a better Rutgers.” We spoke to Dr. Donna Murch, Associate Professor of History at Rutgers and the New Brunswick Chapter President of Rutgers AAUP, one of the unions on strike. In the midst of this standoff, New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy, took on a foundational role in preventing University Presid...

Are "Thoughts and Prayers" Enough?

April 11, 2023 16:00 - 12 minutes - 11.8 MB

In the wake of Monday’s mass shooting in Louisville, Kentucky, we discussed whether there is any value to “thoughts and prayers” in moments of public violence and loss.     Dean Yolanda Pierce is currently dean of the School of Divinity at Howard University and will soon become dean of the School of Divinity at Vanderbilt University this fall. Dean Pierce joined The Takeaway to offer reflections on the contributions and challenges of public faith discourse in a secular democracy. 

The Native American Roots of the US Constitution

April 11, 2023 16:00 - 15 minutes - 14.6 MB

Many of the Founding Fathers who signed the Constitution had a deep familiarity with Native nations, some having negotiated treaties or engaged in diplomatic relations with them. We spoke to Robert J Miller, Professor of Law at the Sandra Day O’Connor College of Law at ASU, who enlightened us about the Native origins of the US Constitution

Ryans Only at the Ryan Meetup (and Definitely No Bryans)

April 11, 2023 16:00 - 18 minutes - 17 MB

Takeaway producer Ryan Andrew Wilde recently came across a flier that said "Is your name Ryan? Wanna meet other Ryans? Join the Ryan Meetup!" At the bottom of the flier, it laid out some strict rules: "First name must be Ryan" and "No Bryans Allowed." A few weeks later, intrigued but unsure of what to expect, Ryan headed to Ryan Maguire's, a lower Manhattan bar and restaurant, with a microphone and some questions.  Ryan Andrew Wilde, associate producer for The Takeaway, shares the story. W...

The Tennessee Three: How Did We Get Here?

April 10, 2023 16:00 - 13 minutes - 12.2 MB

Today, officials in Nashville are scheduled to vote to reinstate former Tennessee State Representative Justin Jones.  State Rep. Jones and State Rep. Justin Pearson of Memphis were expelled by Republican lawmakers last week after leading a push for gun reform in protest on the House floor last Thursday. Memphis city council could reappoint Pearson during their meeting on Wednesday of this week.  Even if both are reappointed by their respective city councils, the appointments are not permane...

Idaho Restricts Interstate Travel for Abortions

April 10, 2023 16:00 - 12 minutes - 11.8 MB

After the U-S Supreme Court overturned Roe v Wade last summer, Republican led states across the nation began enacting bans that curtailed reproductive rights and the right to an abortion. The state of Idaho has some of the strictest anti-abortion laws in the nation. Abortion is entirely banned in the state with exceptions for rape, incest, or if the life of the pregnant person is in danger. Last week, the state moved further to the right with its anti-abortion laws after Republican Governo...

Recess Therapy on The Takeaway

April 07, 2023 17:08 - 17 minutes - 16 MB

Original Air Date: April 4, 2023 It’s pretty hard to forget Tariq the “Corn Kid” from the popular digital series, “Recess Therapy,” an interview style show where the kids hold the spotlight, and talk about everything from their favorite foods, to the candid ways that they experience and understand the world around them, and even share wholesome advice for strangers. We talk with the person that holds the microphone and conducts those interviews: creator, comedian, and host of Recess Therap...

Pink Was the New Black. Magenta Might Be Next.

April 07, 2023 16:00 - 8 minutes - 7.45 MB

Original Air Date: December 12, 2022 Last summer, we were living in a hot-pink world thanks in part to the Barbie-inspired trend, dubbed “Barbiecore.”  Hollywood celebrities, influencers, and artists all put their own spin on the hot-pink fashion trend, and the #barbiecore hashtag on TikTok has garnered over 272.8 million views. Today, you can find a number of social media users uploading a recently added Barbie filter on their photos.  It's not-so surprising that the Barbie trend is taki...

Long Covid Three Years Later

April 06, 2023 20:34 - 20 minutes - 18.6 MB

Earlier this year, the World Health Organization toed a fine line between acknowledging the fact that the COVID-19 pandemic isn’t over, while laying the groundwork to begin transitioning out of a global emergency. However, President Biden and his administration aren’t waiting to follow the World Health Organization's lead. The administration plans to “terminate” the coronavirus national and public health emergencies on May 11 of this year. And perhaps sooner, now that a Republican led bill...

Undermining the ADA

April 06, 2023 16:00 - 15 minutes - 14.2 MB

A law moving through the Kansas legislature is set to weaken the enforcement of the Americans with Disabilities Act, and two cases before the Supreme Court could narrow the ability of disabled people to sue over violations of their rights.  We speak with Rebecca Cokley, Program Officer for U.S. Disability Rights at the Ford Foundation, about what this could mean for the future of disability access.

North America has a Nuclear Waste Problem

April 05, 2023 20:12 - 11 minutes - 10.2 MB

In 1942, just below the football stadium at the University of Chicago, scientists were racing to figure out the feasibility of a controlled nuclear reaction.  At that moment, it was all about WWII.  In 1958, the US began generating electricity from nuclear power, and today there are nuclear power plants in more than half of American states. The US Department of Energy touts nuclear energy as “cleaner and greener” pointing to its zero emissions and smaller land footprint, but nuclear power g...

The "Mercy Workers" Who Fight the Death Sentence

April 05, 2023 16:00 - 25 minutes - 23.4 MB

Nine prisoners have been executed in the United States in 2023, according to the Death Penalty Information Center. Yet the number of death sentences in the country has steadily decreased in recent decades, from more than 300 annually in the mid-1990s to fewer than 30 in recent years. This is thanks, in part, to the work of a small group of little-known professionals known as mitigation specialists. Their mission? Mercy. Sara Baldwin is a mitigation specialist in Florida. Her job is to dig d...

State Sponsored Hate: Uganda's Antigay Laws

April 04, 2023 16:00 - 16 minutes - 14.9 MB

Last month, Uganda’s parliament passed several new laws that criminalize openly identifying as LGBTQ+, adding on to brutal discrimination LGBTQ+ Ugandans have faced for years.     The Takeaway talks with Dr. Frank Mugisha, Director of Sexual Minorities Uganda about the recent laws.

Russia Arrested American Journalist Evan Gershkovich

April 04, 2023 16:00 - 14 minutes - 13.7 MB

Evan Gershkovich is a 31-year-old American journalist who works as a reporter for the Wall Street Journal in Russia. Last week, he was arrested by Russian officials and accused of espionage, the first time Russia has accused a foreign journalist of spying since the Cold War.  He faces up to 20 years in prison. First, we hear from Pjotr Sauer, a former colleague and friend of Evan Gershovich.  Then, we speak with Dr. Dani Gilbert, Fellow at the John Sloan Dickey Center for International Und...

Wisconsin Voters Are Headed to the Polls

April 03, 2023 16:00 - 15 minutes - 13.8 MB

On Tuesday, Wisconsin voters will head to the polls to cast their ballots for the State Supreme Court. With more than 30 million dollars in spending so far, this election will determine the fate of abortion rights and gerrymandered maps in Wisconsin… And could have larger repercussions during the upcoming 2024 presidential election.  To talk to us about Wisconsin’s Supreme Court elections is Maayan Silver, a reporter at W-U-W-M 89.7, Milwaukee’s public radio. 

The Polarizing Popularity of Pickleball

April 03, 2023 16:00 - 21 minutes - 19.9 MB

Pickleball is America’s fastest growing sport. According to the Sports & Fitness Industry Association, pickleball has seen a 156.7% increase in players over the past three years.  Described as a cross between tennis, badminton and ping-pong, pickleball is attracting fans of racquet sports from across the country. And this increase in interest has come with both serious problems and incredible opportunities.   Takeaway producer Cat Sposato takes a quick journey through the world of pickleba...

Why Does Broadway Keep Doing Drag?

March 31, 2023 20:40 - 19 minutes - 17.5 MB

Original Air Date: January 18, 2023 A musical adaptation of the 1959 movie, "Some Like It Hot," is now on Broadway. The movie has been acclaimed as one of the best comedy films of all time, but much of that comedy relies on the trope of men using drag as a disguise. It's a trope that Broadway is no stranger to, as evidenced by recent adaptations of "Mrs. Doubtfire" and "Tootsie." The "Some Like It Hot" musical attempts to alleviate this tension between historic and often harmful portrayals...

Celebrating International Transgender Day of Visibility

March 31, 2023 16:00 - 15 minutes - 13.8 MB

International Transgender Day of Visibility is a day of celebration, support, and love within the transgender community and among allies, and it is especially important amid the ongoing legislative efforts across the country targeting the lives, the health, and the well being of trans individuals.  According to the Human Rights Campaign, which is tracking anti-LGBTQ+ bills introduced in statehouses across the country, just in these first few months of 2023, there have been a record number o...

Behind the Texas State Takeover of Houston Independent School District

March 31, 2023 01:34 - 11 minutes - 10.8 MB

Houston Independent School District enrolls nearly 200,000 students, and it's the largest school district in Texas, and 8th largest in the U.S. Earlier this month, the Texas Education Agency announced the state was taking over the district citing poor performance.  The state is dismissing the superintendent and the elected school board and replacing them with state appointees. Critics say this is another example of predominantly white, Republican lawmakers taking control over a diverse, and...

'Blood Money': Inside the American Blood Plasma Economy

March 30, 2023 19:03 - 23 minutes - 21.6 MB

Millions of people across the world rely on life-saving medications made from blood plasma. And the U.S. is the leading exporter of that plasma. Here in the U.S. donating plasma is a legal and regulated process. It is also a paid exchange. Although you can’t sell a kidney or even your blood, there are parts of you that you can sell to earn money. For example, donating eggs for assisted reproductive technology is legal and paid.  And the United States is one of only a few countries in the ...

Unprisoned with Tracy McMillan

March 29, 2023 16:00 - 15 minutes - 13.7 MB

Inspired by Tracy McMillan’s Life, UnPrisoned is a half-hour comedy starring Kerry Washington, Marque Richardson, and Faly Rakotohavana. It's about Paige, a therapist and single mom, whose life is turned right-side-up when her dad gets out of prison and moves in with her and her teenage son.   Tracy joined us to talk about her real-life inspiration of a common story that is almost never told.

Here We Are Again: The Covenant School Shooting

March 29, 2023 16:00 - 14 minutes - 13.1 MB

On Monday, a 28-year-old shooter entered the Covenant School, a private Christian school in Nashville, armed with two assault rifles and a handgun. The shooter then killed six people, including three 9-year-olds, and three faculty members. The shooter legally purchased seven weapons from five different gun stores before the shooting at Covenant school.  They were fatally shot by law enforcement who responded to the scene. This comes against a backdrop of Tennessee laws making access to guns...

The Right of Return for Formerly Incarcerated Artists

March 28, 2023 18:40 - 12 minutes - 11.2 MB

Original Air Date: March 27, 2023 Right to Return USA just announced its 2023 Fellows. Six artists will receive a $20,000 award to support projects aimed at transforming the criminal legal and immigration systems, as well as combatting mass incarceration. We speak with Right of Return co-founder Jesse Krimes and 2023 Fellow Jaiquan Fayson about the fellowship, the barriers for formerly incarcerated people in society, and art's role in reforming the criminal justice system.

Remembering as They Forget: Dementia's Impact on Loved Ones

March 28, 2023 16:00 - 19 minutes - 17.5 MB

Dementia is a disease that slowly steals away memories while keeping up the pretense that it’s stealing away nothing at all. A patient’s ability to create reality from their fragmented memories can lead to strained relationships with their loved ones and a deep sense of loneliness in their caregivers. Clinical psychologist, and author of Travelers to Unimaginable Lands: Stories of Dementia, the Caregiver and the Human Brain, Dasha Kiper shares how our understanding of consciousness makes i...

Late Night Basie Brings Count Basie's Works to a New Audience

March 28, 2023 03:27 - 10 minutes - 9.55 MB

Superjam producer Paul Peck is bringing the works of the illustrious American jazz pianist and composer Count Basie to a brand-new generation with his latest project. Late Night Basie is a Count Basie tribute album that’s reimagining many of the late musician’s greatest hits featuring artists like Cimafunk and Terence Blanchard. Paul Peck sits down with The Takeaway to talk about the project and the ways he’s brought this music to a new age.

Has Mass Incarceration Made El Salvador Safer?

March 27, 2023 18:03 - 23 minutes - 21.2 MB

Last month the President of El Salvador, Nayib Bukele, unveiled the Center for the Confinement of Terrorism (CECOT). In a tweet, Bukele announced, “El Salvador has managed to go from being the world’s most dangerous country to the safest country in the Americas. How did we do it? By putting criminals in jail. Is there space? There is now.” We spoke to Jorge Cuéllar Assistant Professor of Latin American, Latino & Caribbean Studies at Dartmouth and Founding Faculty Fellow of the Consortium o...

A Look at America's First Ladies

March 26, 2023 21:01 - 48 minutes - 44.8 MB

Original Air Date: March 23, 2023 We’re devoting today’s episode of The Takeaway to the task of taking First Ladies seriously as we seek to understand the unique ways these women have affected and continue to shape America. In this episode we explore the ways that Betty Ford's honesty and outspokenness changed the way we look at first ladies; we look at the roles of Martha Washington and Dolley Madison in relationship to chattel slavery in the United States; and how Edith Wilson may have ...

Overincarcerating Women and Girls Can't Be What Healing Looks Like

March 23, 2023 19:54 - 16 minutes - 15.2 MB

Data from The Prison Policy Initiative shows a recent rise in the number of women and girls in confinement. "Fueled by more than five decades of a misguided and failing “war on drugs”, the US leads the world in the incarceration of women. Today, more than half of American states have legalized or decriminalized marijuana.  Even as it might seem that the war on drugs is drawing to a close, its brutal policies continue to create havoc in the lives of American women," said The Takeaway host ...

Joy Harjo on "Remember"

March 22, 2023 23:49 - 19 minutes - 17.7 MB

Joy Harjo was born in Tulsa, Oklahoma in 1951, and is a member of the Mvsoske Nation. She has authored 10 books of poetry, and served as the United States Poet Laureate from 2019 until 2022.  One of her most well known poems, "Remember" (1983) has been adapted and reanimated into a new children’s book, Remember, with illustrations by artist Michaela Goade. Joy Harjo joins us to discuss Remember, reflect on her time as the U.S. Poet Laureate, and share thoughts on how indigeneity informs th...

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