In this episode, Trudi & Weeze dive into the terms “niceness” and “kindness” — specifically how they relate to white women. We explore Ellen DeGenerous’s recent response to being friends with George W. Bush, what she’s really saying by “be kind to one another,” and when “kindness” is a cop out. Please join us on the FB Group for more discussion and celebration: www.facebook.com/groups/thatsnothowthatworkspodcast Music by Dennis “Aganee” Jenkins https://www.aganee.com https://instagram.com/therealaganee