talkPOPc's Podcast
213 episodes - English - Latest episode: about 2 months ago -talkPOPc or the Philosophers' Ontological Party club, is a public philosophy + socially engaged art practice non-profit founded by Dr. Dena Shottenkirk, who is both a philosopher and an artist. talkPOPc sponsors one-to-one conversations between a participant and a philosopher (who always dons our amazing gold African king hat!) Various philosophers participate and these conversations happen in various places. For example, we go into bars and have one-to-one conversations. Various bars, both dives and fancy. We go to Grand Central Station in New York City. We set up shop on the sidewalk outside of City Hall in Philly. We go into bodegas all over Brooklyn. We sit down next to the deli counter and hold a conversation with someone who has walked in to get a ham sandwich and walked out knowing so much more about their own thoughts. We go into city parks or down dead end streets and set up the talkPOPc's tent. We listen. Here are some of those conversations.
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Episode 47: "Art is Verb Not a Noun": Resident Philosopher Carolina Flores talks with talkPOPc participant Shannon Rousseau
July 11, 2021 17:00 - 29 minutes - 20.3 MBShannon starts with the belief that everyone is creative and able to make art in some kind of way, which she discovered when she first took a drawing and painting class in high school. Her new desire is to act, but feels apprehensive about it because, in RP Flores' words "you're on the line". They discuss the difficulties of performance and the line between one's art and what one is doing - and one's self. They agree that making art though always opens one to not just different perspective...
"Art is Verb Not a Noun": Resident Philosopher Carolina Flores talks with talkPOPc participant Shannon Rousseau
July 11, 2021 17:00 - 29 minutes - 20.3 MBShannon starts with the belief that everyone is creative and able to make art in some kind of way, which she discovered when she first took a drawing and painting class in high school. Her new desire is to act, but feels apprehensive about it because, in RP Flores' words "you're on the line". They discuss the difficulties of performance and the line between one's art and what one is doing - and one's self. They agree that making art though always opens one to not just different perspective...
Episode 46: Gaston speaks of artists' suffering during covid
March 14, 2021 17:00 - 15 minutes - 10.7 MBGaston discusses the effects of Covid on people and on art. For him, covid has made people rethink what they value and what they want in their lives. People have purged their homes, and rethought what they wanted. But covid has also had the effect on artists - lots of small producers have not been able to produce, and people now buy from ebay instead of CD Baby. The larger corporations are just taking over more. People have had to go online and the economic forces are just pilling up: a "na...
Episode 45: Gaston speaks of artists' suffering during covid
March 14, 2021 17:00 - 15 minutes - 10.7 MBGaston discusses the effects of Covid on people and on art. For him, covid has made people rethink what they value and what they want in their lives. People have purged their homes, and rethought what they wanted. But covid has also had the effect on artists - lots of small producers have not been able to produce, and people now buy from ebay instead of CD Baby. The larger corporations are just taking over more. People have had to go online and the economic forces are just pilling up: a "na...
Episode 45: Marjorie Sweeney on why America needs Group Dancing
February 28, 2021 17:00 - 35 minutes - 24.6 MBSummer of 2020: talkPOPc sets up next to the Gowanus Canal in Brooklyn and speechwriter Marjorie Sweeney talks about social role of art. She agrees to the obvious fact that there is great individualism in art, but her point is that there are also great social and political functions. Wanting to create is a natural human urge & all children show this, but adults are far more inhibited - we would look askance at some adult dancing down the street, whereas if a child does it we say "how cute"....
Episode 44: Marjorie Sweeney on why America needs Group Dancing
February 28, 2021 17:00 - 35 minutes - 24.6 MBSummer of 2020: talkPOPc sets up next to the Gowanus Canal in Brooklyn and speechwriter Marjorie Sweeney talks about social role of art. She agrees to the obvious fact that there is great individualism in art, but her point is that there are also great social and political functions. Wanting to create is a natural human urge & all children show this, but adults are far more inhibited - we would look askance at some adult dancing down the street, whereas if a child does it we say "how cute"....
Episode 43: Joan talks about Medieval art & the political role of art
February 14, 2021 16:00 - 26 minutes - 18.1 MBJoan, a lawyer in NYC, got her undergraduate degree in art history, and here in the talkPOPc tent discusses the political role of art, comparing today's world to the art of the medieval world. Using Bronzino's chapel of Eleonora in the Palazzo Vecchio, Joan refers to the sociology of that world and how art reinforced power relations. Bronzino, who came right after Michelangelo, was like other artists of the time: driven by the politics, literature, philosophy, and religion. Art is just part...
Episode 44: Joan talks about Medieval art & the political role of art
February 14, 2021 16:00 - 26 minutes - 18.1 MBJoan, a lawyer in NYC, got her undergraduate degree in art history, and here in the talkPOPc tent discusses the political role of art, comparing today's world to the art of the medieval world. Using Bronzino's chapel of Eleonora in the Palazzo Vecchio, Joan refers to the sociology of that world and how art reinforced power relations. Bronzino, who came right after Michelangelo, was like other artists of the time: driven by the politics, literature, philosophy, and religion. Art is just part...
Episode 46: Justin Freeman: Art, Basketball and being Black
January 17, 2021 23:00 - 22 minutes - 15.2 MBJustin points out that we find ourselves through thinking and we find ourselves through thinking about art. Everyone has a different interpretation - a different fingerprint. Ergo cogito sum. Subjectivity is everything here: Justin uses the examples of basketball and being black. The subjective experience is hard to hand over to someone else so that they might know what we experience. We know things by being shown things; Wittgenstein talks about this. The external activity becomes an intern...
Episode 43: Justin Freeman: Art, Basketball and being Black
January 17, 2021 23:00 - 22 minutes - 15.2 MBJustin points out that we find ourselves through thinking and we find ourselves through thinking about art. Everyone has a different interpretation - a different fingerprint. Ergo cogito sum. Subjectivity is everything here: Justin uses the examples of basketball and being black. The subjective experience is hard to hand over to someone else so that they might know what we experience. We know things by being shown things; Wittgenstein talks about this. The external activity becomes an intern...
Episode 42: Aaron Eastburn: Art as Communicative Language and Empathy-Generator
January 03, 2021 18:00 - 21 minutes - 15 MBA software engineer and a mathematician, Aaron argues that empathy is a central part of art, both on the part of the artist and on the part of the viewer. In order for the artist to be able to convey something they have to have empathy for how other people experience the world. But he also says that sometimes "art doesn't have to conform to well-described experiences" and that the viewer can experience something over and above what the artist intended. RP Flores says that it now looks like, ...
Episode 41: Ali Beiruti: Boxing as Art, Art as Love
December 27, 2020 18:00 - 16 minutes - 11.1 MBAli, who is an amateur boxer, and a recent college graduate who wants to go into nursing, thinks of boxing as an art form. When Resident Philosopher Carolina Flores asks him why he thinks boxing is art, he says because "you can fall in love with it". And it must involve a practice. It is a skill-based practice. Cooking, video-games, etc., are all art forms. RP points out that his notion means that art is everywhere, and he says "yes, anything can be art." So she asks if cleaning the house ca...
Episode 40: Stephen Hanson: Galleries, Museums, and Embodied Experience
December 20, 2020 18:00 - 25 minutes - 17.5 MBStephen, who worked until recently at David Zwirner Gallery, discusses the differences in the audience experiences in a gallery as opposed to a museum, arguing that museums give people a greater diversity of experiences. RP Flores asks the fundamental question: why should people go to museums? Stephen points out that they are re-designing themselves and that there is a thought-shift in museums about what to give audiences, but there is the fact that when you see something in front of you on ...
Episode 39: Hoover Chung: Fashion, Gender, and Art versus Design Debate
December 13, 2020 18:00 - 28 minutes - 19.4 MBThe fashion designed Hoover Chung speaks to Resident Philosopher Carolina Flores about his interest in gender-fluid fashion. He points out that it's not just feminine clothing on men's body, but it is something that "we are all experimenting with". RP Flores asks Hoover if he thinks that because fashion is consumed and worn by people, is it the case that clothing and garments have a special potential to transgress our notions of gender? He agrees, but continues by commenting on the anti-ind...
Episode 38: Arion Toles: Power, Identity and the Art of Being "Unresolved"
December 06, 2020 18:00 - 13 minutes - 9.22 MBArion references the book The Undercommons: Fugitive Planning & Black Study, by Stefano Harney and Fred Moten, which criticizes and tries to reform one's relation to the state and avoid being categorized specifically for the ends for state power. Identity is important, and Arion draws on his love of free-form jazz to make the point that we can be in the state of "being unresolved", and by staying in that unresolved state we can thus resist being categorized. He argues that the art he respond...
Episode 37: Bogyi Banovich: Body/Mind - Art Makes Our Minds Manifest
November 29, 2020 18:00 - 17 minutes - 11.7 MBThe artist Bogyi Banovich explains creativity as where the body is trying to "catch up" to what the mind has wanted and designed. Bogyi discusses how art is setting up a goal and then the body tries to make the goal real, but with each physical step we re-imagine the mental goal and the two get merged: now we want this version. The important part is the material fact of trying, of making it better. He agrees that art is a kind of cognition: "it is how we think: it is constant evolution, cons...
Episode 36: Kaya Simmons: Acting, Vulnerability, and Truth
November 22, 2020 18:00 - 41 minutes - 28.7 MBIn a fascinating conversation about theatre and acting, the actor Kaya Simmons explains both why people act and why people go to see others act. "We act to tell stories, and we act to tell other people's stories, and to live those stories, and to live those truths and to tell those truths." The distinct quality is the actor's willingness to be vulnerable, to try things that might work or might not work. This allows the actor to bring to the audience a full-blown experience that makes sense o...
Episode 32: Beth: Covid, BLM protests, and Reclaiming Urban Places
November 15, 2020 16:00 - 22 minutes - 15.6 MBAs an urban planner, Beth notes how the city is now reclaiming the public arena: the visual experience of the urban experience during the times of COVID show the nature of the social dimensions that have happened: the protests, the demands to give over some of the streets back to the public both for bikes and restaurants, etc. She explains how the Barclay center protests forced the corporate entity that is the Barclay center to take down the ads and put up a MLK quote. This is interesting a...
Episode 33: Will Smith: What Both Country and Rap Can Do for You
November 08, 2020 16:00 - 18 minutes - 12.5 MBWill, another one of our Participants who just happened to be wandering by and kindly stopped into the tent and had a conversation, is from South Carolina and likes both country and rap music because they talk about their pain and pleasures, and because they can tell you about how you were already feeling, but just couldn't really talk about it. "Music puts you in the mood you already want to be in." Support the Show. Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc
Episode 34: Charles: Animals, Evolution, and the Naturalness of Aesthetics
November 01, 2020 15:00 - 33 minutes - 22.9 MBCharles gives an extremely interesting viewpoint on the naturalness of aesthetics, drawing from the way ants build symmetrical ant piles, birds flying in perfect symmetry and order, and the great cognitive powers of octopus, making the argument that perhaps our divide between instinct and consciousness of behavior is false. He discusses how much is inherited, including the African aesthetic, which he argues is part of his aesthetic unconscious, something that he naturally responds to - just ...
Episode 35: Steven: Theatre, Empathy, and Knowledge
October 25, 2020 15:00 - 25 minutes - 17.3 MBAs a life-long practitioner in theatre, Steven articulates how it is that we use the journey as described by the playwright: we "exercise" our empathy, sympathy, ability to see things from another's point of view. He also discusses the interesting phenomenon of how it is a group exercise in viewing, as we respond to - either in agreement or not - the fellow audience-member's response. Theatre is practice for the "emotional work of life". Support the Show. Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @t...
Episode 31: Richard: Art, Civil War Monuments, and the Collective Thought
October 18, 2020 15:00 - 25 minutes - 17.2 MBArt makes people do this introspective work. He discusses the civil war monuments in the south (in Richmond, VA) that glorify the confederate side, and notes the emotion that the pieces evoke in people. What does that art do the people who see it and how does it resonate to the collective? Richard and RP Shottenkirk discuss how the original subjective experience of the individual, which is both derived from social constructs and further translates into other social constructs, comes into bei...
Episode 30: Robert & The Sensory Pleasure of Art
October 11, 2020 15:00 - 14 minutes - 10 MBRobert discusses the relationship of looking at art, listening to music, and eating: saying yes to those things that we like, figuring out why, and the essential part of enjoyment. As a language teacher, Robert thinks that understanding art is much like learning a language, and (as the ancients said) how similar painting and poetry are, as they are more "cryptic" than the literary arts of theatre and novels. Support the Show. Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc
Episode 29: George: architecture and social usage
October 04, 2020 15:00 - 27 minutes - 18.7 MBGeorge gives an architect's view on the relationship between the social function of buildings and how it is that we aesthetically experience them as a result of their social functions. Support the Show. Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc
Episode 28: Ulysses Pizarro
August 02, 2020 19:00 - 27 minutes - 18.6 MBUlysses discusses looking at art without the preconceptions of gallery owners or museum directors; he and Resident Philosopher Shottenkirk explore the value of bewilderment in art, feeling vulnerable in initially not knowing and the pleasure found in figuring it out. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/talkpopc)
Episode 28: Ulysses Pizarro: Unmediated, Direct Gaze
August 02, 2020 19:00 - 27 minutes - 18.6 MBUlysses discusses looking at art without the preconceptions of gallery owners or museum directors; he and Resident Philosopher Shottenkirk explore the value of bewilderment in art, feeling vulnerable in initially not knowing and the pleasure found in figuring it out. Support the Show. Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc
Episode 27: Dan Durso talks about art, evolution, and social bonding.
July 28, 2020 19:00 - 28 minutes - 19.8 MBDan Durso, artist and PhD student at the University of Illinois, talks about art as evolutionarily adapting, how it helped early humans to bond and work together as a unit, and how it allows us access into others' minds. He also discusses why it's a problem that contemporary art is without philosophical theory. Support the Show. Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc
Episode 26: Jeremy. A critic's POV. Interrogating yourself to learn, think and communicate.
May 10, 2020 16:00 - 38 minutes - 26.2 MBJeremy Barker, a performance critic, joins Resident Philosopher Carolina Flores for the seventh and final installment of our Postmasters Gallery series. Jeremy engages in art differently from the layman. He speaks of immediate entertainment value versus the long term process of art. You either grow with the work and evolve, or you engage with art for hedonistic pleasure. Nothing wrong with either, but do you want to be entertained, or open yourself up to something else? Support the show (htt...
Episode 26: Jeremy. A critic's POV. Interrogating yourself to learn, think and communicate.
May 10, 2020 16:00 - 38 minutes - 26.2 MBJeremy Barker, a performance critic, joins Resident Philosopher Carolina Flores for the seventh and final installment of our Postmasters Gallery series. Jeremy engages in art differently from the layman. He speaks of immediate entertainment value versus the long term process of art. You either grow with the work and evolve, or you engage with art for hedonistic pleasure. Nothing wrong with either, but do you want to be entertained, or open yourself up to something else? Support the Show. T...
Episode 25: Beth. Art in the environment. A reconfiguration of thought
May 03, 2020 16:00 - 17 minutes - 12 MBBeth Evans joins Resident Philosopher Carolina Flores for the sixth part of our postmasters series. They discuss visual art, in particular performance art as it gives more room for thought. There's a feeling in the moment that's not found in two dimensional art. You become a part of the environment and it changes the way you see the non art world. Ordinary things can become objects of art. Just requires a different gaze/pattern of attention. Support the Show. Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram...
Episode 24: John. A photographer's gaze. Mechanical over artistic.
April 26, 2020 16:00 - 11 minutes - 8.11 MBJohn McCarten joins Resident Philosopher Vincent Peluce for the fifth part of our postmasters series. John discusses photography as seeing through the viewfinder rather than seeing an artistic picture. He sees good light, a silhouette and composition rather than a creative energy. It's a mechanical process of capturing an image rather than expressing emotion. Support the show
Episode 24: John. A photographer's gaze. Mechanical over artistic.
April 26, 2020 16:00 - 11 minutes - 8.11 MBJohn McCarten joins Resident Philosopher Vincent Peluce for the fifth part of our postmasters series. John discusses photography as seeing through the viewfinder rather than seeing an artistic picture. He sees good light, a silhouette and composition rather than a creative energy. It's a mechanical process of capturing an image rather than expressing emotion. Support the Show. Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc
Episode 23: Caron. Spirituality of art. Nigunim and the levels of music.
April 19, 2020 16:00 - 18 minutes - 13 MBCaron Shapiro joins Resident Philosopher Vincent Peluce for the fourth part of our postmasters series. They discuss Hebrew music and the spirituality behind it. Nigunim are spiritual songs that don't necessarily involve cognition. It's a "direct shot to your soul" and the more spiritual a song, the less melody and lyrics it contains. Caron also discusses how art differs from the visual to musical mediums. Visual art reflects a particular point in time and engages the senses, while musical ar...
Episode 23: Caron. Spirituality of art. Nigunim and the levels of music.
April 19, 2020 16:00 - 18 minutes - 13 MBCaron Shapiro joins Resident Philosopher Vincent Peluce for the fourth part of our postmasters series. They discuss Hebrew music and the spirituality behind it. Nigunim are spiritual songs that don't necessarily involve cognition. It's a "direct shot to your soul" and the more spiritual a song, the less melody and lyrics it contains. Caron also discusses how art differs from the visual to musical mediums. Visual art reflects a particular point in time and engages the senses, while musical ar...
Episode 22: Jesi. Who is art for? Creating to create, or creating for an audience?
April 12, 2020 16:00 - 27 minutes - 18.7 MBJesi Taylor Cruz joins Resident Philosopher Vincent Peluce for the third part of our postmasters series. As they discuss art as cognition, Jesi points to the restrictive nature of creating art for others/an audience. We make choices more carefully when others will see what we do. This raises a question of authenticity. Are we more willing to take risks and artistic liberties without an audience? Is our material limited by the audience? Support the Show. Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talk...
Episode 21: Nicholas. Art's duality. When you create, you don't think. When you consume, you contemplate.
April 05, 2020 16:00 - 15 minutes - 10.9 MBNicholas Accetura joins Resident Philosopher Vincent Peluce for the second part of our postmasters series. When discussing art, Nicholas denotes a significant difference in our minds. When we create art, at least for Nicholas, we are free. We don't think about things and instead engage the body to materialize art. When we consume art, we are actively thinking about what's in front of us and thus engage the mind rather than the body. Support the show
Episode 21: Nicholas. Art's duality. When you create, you don't think. When you consume, you contemplate.
April 05, 2020 16:00 - 15 minutes - 10.9 MBNicholas Accetura joins Resident Philosopher Vincent Peluce for the second part of our postmasters series. When discussing art, Nicholas denotes a significant difference in our minds. When we create art, at least for Nicholas, we are free. We don't think about things and instead engage the body to materialize art. When we consume art, we are actively thinking about what's in front of us and thus engage the mind rather than the body. Support the Show. Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc
Episode 20: João, Art as a system of signs. A language of exception.
March 29, 2020 16:00 - 12 minutes - 8.54 MBJoão Enxuto joins Resident Philosopher Vincent Peluce as they kick off the first part of our Postmasters series. They discuss art as cognition, and João thinks of it as a medium for cognitive faculties, yet art is a text one reads. Art represents exceptionality, it doesn't just communicate raw facts, it goes beyond. But we still have to operate within the constraints of our world. We live in a capitalist society, and art's exceptionality is linked to perceived financial value. Support the show
Episode 20: João, Art as a system of signs. A language of exception.
March 29, 2020 16:00 - 12 minutes - 8.54 MBJoão Enxuto joins Resident Philosopher Vincent Peluce as they kick off the first part of our Postmasters series. They discuss art as cognition, and João thinks of it as a medium for cognitive faculties, yet art is a text one reads. Art represents exceptionality, it doesn't just communicate raw facts, it goes beyond. But we still have to operate within the constraints of our world. We live in a capitalist society, and art's exceptionality is linked to perceived financial value. Support the ...
Episode 19: Keith: Is Art Defined by Our Reaction?
March 08, 2020 15:00 - 24 minutes - 16.7 MBKeith Moss, a management consultant from the UK, and is speaking to the Resident Philosopher Martina Botti. Keith, on a business trip, is visiting the bar and having a drink; he steps over to have a philosophical conversation. They discuss what makes something art, and after Keith suggests it is when a reaction is triggered, Martina suggests that maybe our brain doesn’t have a general definition of art and then apply that case by case. Maybe our brain sees it more in terms of having a paradi...
Episode 18: Gilles: Art is What Art Does
March 01, 2020 15:00 - 51 minutes - 35.5 MBThe art historian and art critic Gilles Heno-Coe, who was the former Associate Director of Matthew Marks Gallery, speaks with Resident Philosopher Martina Botti. The conversation ranges between issues of meaning in art to the role of the market in determining that meaning. Repeatedly in their conversation, Charles Sanders Pierce appears. A nineteenth century American philosopher, Pierce was seminal in the development of pragmatism: the view that what matters is that which has actual affects....
Episode 17: Patrice, Choreography and World-Building
February 23, 2020 15:00 - 49 minutes - 34.3 MBThe choreographer and performance artist Patrice Miller’s conversation with RP Martina Botti (phd candidate from Columbia University) starts out with Patrice asking Martina a definition of ontology and metaphysics. What is real. And how we define the real. This sets the stage for the very interesting exchange between this artist and this philosopher, as they find common ground between art and philosophy. Patrice makes the point that art talks about itself and talks about the subject also. I...
Episode 16: Raffle-winner Destin: It Moves Us. We Call it "Art"
January 19, 2020 18:00 - 32 minutes - 22.4 MBDestin was the winner of our raffle at our fundraising event at Postmasters Gallery in October, 2019. It was a contest to raffle off a philosopher, and I, Dena Shottenkirk, ended up being the philosopher who was raffled and Destin won the slot of being the talkPOPc participant. He gives a definition of art as something that makes people feel something. He also argues that prestige items are such because they make us feel something. They move us. Something is expensive because it makes us fee...
Episode 16: Raffle-winner Destin: It Moves Us. We Call it "Art"
January 19, 2020 18:00 - 32 minutes - 22.4 MBDestin was the winner of our raffle at our fundraising event at Postmasters Gallery in October, 2019. It was a contest to raffle off a philosopher, and I, Dena Shottenkirk, ended up being the philosopher who was raffled and Destin won the slot of being the talkPOPc participant. He gives a definition of art as something that makes people feel something. He also argues that prestige items are such because they make us feel something. They move us. Something is expensive because it makes us fee...
Episode 15: Boredom, Anxiety, and Being an Artist
January 12, 2020 18:00 - 41 minutes - 28.4 MBKunning posits that the function of art is to give yourself a different kind of life-style. He says it’s a way of spending time that is not very “cost effective” - You are not thinking about how one can make money. But I then ask him: What are they getting, knowledge? He says no, novelty. But how does novelty, I ask, distinguish itself from distraction? Kunning says that art is just the way we deal with excessive time and boredom. But we can’t just kill time. That’s not, Kunning feels, ac...
Episode 14: Dr. Sascha Benjamin Fink + talkPOPc Resident Philosopher Andrew Rubner explore Topic #3 "Art as Cognition"
January 05, 2020 18:00 - 29 minutes - 20.4 MBIn this episode from our talkPOPc event, held in our tent at Lincoln Terrace Park in Crown Heights, Brooklyn, we invite two philosophers to converse about and explore the third and current topic "Art and Cognition." Resident Philosopher Andrew Rubner from Rutgers University and Professor of Neurophilosophy, Dr. Sascha Benjamin Fink from Otto-von-Guericke University in Magdeburg, Germany tackle the distinction between something being art and something not being art—they discuss issues of inte...
Episode 14: Sascha Benjamin Fink & Andrew Rubner talk about Art as Cognition
January 05, 2020 18:00 - 29 minutes - 20.4 MBIn this talkPOPc event, held in our tent in a park in Crown Heights, Brooklyn, we have two philosophers having a conversation about the current topic Art and Cognition: The Resident Philosopher Andrew Rubner from Rutgers and Sascha Benjamin Fink from the Otto-von-Guericke University in Magdeburg, Germany. Tackling the distinction between something being art and something not being art, they discuss issues of intentionality, whether art can be created by accident, if the role of the artist in...
Episode 13: Crystal: Feeling/Meaning in Art
December 29, 2019 18:00 - 24 minutes - 16.7 MBAs a lover and maker of fashion, Crystal talks about what makes both fashion and art in general meaningful to her. The conversation at first seems to hint at her thinking that something is art because it is emotional and makes her feel a certain way, and Resident Philosopher Rubner comments on that: he points out that she seems to think art is art because it is emotional, and not cognitive. At the end, Andrew stops and reflects on the general point that the divide between thinking and feelin...
Episode 12: Jasmine & The Butterfly
December 22, 2019 18:00 - 23 minutes - 16.3 MBAfter weaving in a discussion of writing and what happens in writing, Jasmine relates a story about the astounding experience of sitting with a friend outside, and between them there suddenly appeared a butterfly. And that was like art. She says, “We are not really aware until we are aware.” In art you are caught up in that moment, and everything stops and stands still. It brings us into the phenomenal moment and all else drops away. Those moments are unforgettable. Support the Show. Twit...
Episode 11: Mr. Walcott and Landscaping
December 15, 2019 18:00 - 20 minutes - 14.3 MBMr. Raul Walcott, who is from Guyana and works as a landscaper, talks to Resident Philosopher Andrew Rubner about how the process of making something beautiful is a kind of art. The conversation in many ways is about the definition of art, but it also becomes a conversation about the function of art. Interestingly, it returns several times to the point, evident in landscape architecture, but perhaps more hidden in other kinds of that, that art is taking chaos and making order out of it. In R...