“LIFE UNDER, OVER, FROM, and FOR GOD each seeks to use God to achieve some other goal. God is seen as a means to an end. For example, LIFE FROM GOD uses him to supply our material desires. LIFE OVER GOD uses him as the source of principles or laws. LIFE UNDER GOD tries to manipulate God through obedience to secure blessings and avoid calamity. And LIFE FOR GOD uses him and his mission to gain a sense of direction and purpose.” 

“But LIFE WITH GOD is different because its goal is not to use God, its goal is God. He ceases to be a device we employ or a commodity we consume. Instead God himself becomes the focus of our desire. But before we can really desire God, we must have a clear understanding of who he is and what he is like. The reason most people gravitate to one of the other four postures is because they’ve never received a clear vision of who God is, and so they settle for something less.”

In this episode Tennison and Ginelle conversation centers around what living a LIFE UNDER GOD looks like, presented in the book 'WITH: Reimagining The Way You Relate to God' by Skye Jethani.  LIFE UNDER GOD seeks to control the world through religion; by manipulating God through rituals or morality. It's the idea of living under divine rule and following that rule for the sole purpose of avoiding calamity.  So when things go wrong or not as well as others we don't have favor with God or he is mad at us.  We live this because we fear being subject to the uncontrollable and the happenstances of life.    

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