Ellen Shapiro joins John to talk about all sorts of automated testing — unit tests, integration tests, UI test, you name it! The two also discuss Ellen's recent adventures into Kotlin and whether Kotlin Native could become a nice cross-platform solution for mobile apps.

Ellen Shapiro joins John to talk about all sorts of automated testing — unit tests, integration tests, UI test, you name it! The two also discuss Ellen's recent adventures into Kotlin and whether Kotlin Native could become a nice cross-platform solution for mobile apps.

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LinksEllen on TwitterJohn on TwitterHumEllen's "Outside-in" talk from UIKonf 2016Running UI Tests on iOS With Ludicrous SpeedUI testing analytics code in SwiftKIFJake Wharton's whitepaper on Kotlin for AndroidKotlin NativeEllen's Kotlin Native testBakken & Bæck's Kotlin Native testWhat's New in Testing - WWDC 2018Ellen's conference talksIntro and outro music by Dariusz Dziuk

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