Sounds Good with Branden Harvey
213 episodes - English - Latest episode: over 2 years ago - ★★★★★ - 354 ratingsSounds Good hosts hopeful conversations with optimists and world-changers about the headlines we can be hopeful about — and how you can get involved and make a difference. Every week, Good Good Good founder Branden Harvey sits down with the people driving positive change against the world's greatest problems. Each episode will leave you with a sense of hope about the good in the world — and a sense of direction on how we can all be a part of that good. Episodes are released every Monday.
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Backhanded Optimism with Adam J. Kurtz
October 25, 2021 17:47 - 43 minutes - 34.6 MBSounds Good Season Finale // If you've been looking for a sign to change your life, this is it. As you've probably figured out by now, life isn't a linear line. It's full of ups and downs, uncertainty, and confusion; however, what guides us through is intentionality. That's what illustrator and author Adam J. Kurtz's fourth book, You Are Here (For Now): A Guide to Finding Your Way, tackles. In it are essays and illustrations aimed to help readers with personal transformation — instead of sim...
How to Turn Good Intentions into Real Change in Your Workplace
October 18, 2021 17:26 - 42 minutes - 33.7 MBThe gap between good intentions and real change is a big one to fill. While many companies are interested in making their workplaces more diverse, it’s not enough to simply want more inclusion. It takes real systemic change to transform any professional setting into an equitable one and many value-driven organizations find themselves stuck at being just short of making real progress. Thankfully, that’s what our next guest is working to solve. Bethaney Wilkinson is the author of The Diversity...
Develop for Good Is Pairing Ivy League Students with Nonprofits
October 04, 2021 07:00 - 40 minutes - 32.4 MBDevelop for Good pairs students with nonprofits to use tech to make a difference. The founder of the organization, Mary Zhu, is no stranger to the experiences of underserved communities. She’s the daughter of two Chinese immigrants and her cultural background was a huge driving force in helping see disparities in marginalized communities… and how to bridge those gaps. In high school, Mary even founded her first nonprofit organization — which aimed to sponsor children in underserved communiti...
Meet the App That Helps People Find Public Benefits
September 27, 2021 20:49 - 37 minutes - 30 MBGrowing up in the racially and economically segregated suburbs of Maryland, Patrice Berry found herself wanting to work in U.S. policymaking after experiencing firsthand how hard it is for marginalized folks to finish school, get assistance, and provide for their families. She now works for the mayor of Oakland, California, working to improve local and state laws. It was there that she was inspired to found AssistHub, an app that helps Californians access any public benefits they may be eli...
One Doctor’s Mission to Bring Healthcare to Refugee Women
September 20, 2021 08:00 - 29 minutes - 23.8 MBAfter trading jazz for a Harvard education, this doctor chose to support refugees by not only working in a refugee camp in Turkey, but by developing an app that supports refugees’ unique healthcare needs. One of the major challenges of being a refugee is the lack of access to real healthcare, particularly for refugee women. But through the power of empathy and tech, there are now more avenues for refugees seeking proper care for their basic needs. This week, we are joined by Aral Sürmeli, ...
Being an Imperfect Conscious Consumer
September 13, 2021 07:00 - 45 minutes - 36.6 MBBeing an environmentally conscious consumer means shopping smarter, not harder. But with so much information and products in the world, it can be challenging to know where to start making choices that are good for the planet. Thankfully, our guest is doing the good work to help everyday folks make small, but valuable choices that benefit the environment. Laura Wittig co-founded Brightly — an online community and content platform that puts the environment first — to help consumers shop well f...
How an Ex-Felon Is Helping Others with Their Second Chance at Life
September 06, 2021 07:00 - 1 hour - 48.2 MBAfter getting out of prison, Jason Wang committed to helping ex-felons get jobs, end generational poverty, and re-enter society. The United States’ incarceration system has made it nearly impossible for ex-felons to have a second chance at life. From the minute they’re incarcerated to the minute they’re released, the U.S. justice system imposes the strictest and harshest of penalties. There is little support for felons once they return to life after imprisonment, and readjusting to society...
On the Ground in Haiti After Earthquake with Mercy Corps
August 30, 2021 07:00 - 31 minutes - 21.7 MBAfter a 7.2 earthquake struck the western part of Haiti last week, it’s been all hands on deck to help the country get back on their feet. This week, we’re talking to Christy Delafield, Managing Director of Communications at Mercy Corps, about the devastating effect the earthquake has had on Haiti and how Mercy Corps has been helping Haitians through this tragedy. Almost two weeks after the earthquake, Haiti is in need of treatment for the injured, access to food and shelter, COVID responses...
How to Get Your Voice Heard by Elected Officials
August 16, 2021 07:00 - 46 minutes - 31.6 MBContacting an elected representative is an effective way to make change, but it might not always be clear how to make your voice heard. Our show guest today is Jason Putorti, one of the founders of Resistbot — a free and easy to use messaging service that connects constituents directly with their elected officials. In the four years that Resistbot has been around, they’ve helped millions of people advocate for causes they care about — all in less than two minutes. In short, Resistbot makes ...
Letting Go of Perfection to Find Peace, According to an Expert
August 09, 2021 07:00 - 52 minutes - 35.8 MBMental health influencer Poppy Jamie is letting go of the idea of perfection. The British entrepreneur and lifestyle personality made the radical choice to unsubscribe from habits that were making her miserable and in her new book, Happy Not Perfect: Upgrade Your Mind, Challenge Your Thoughts, and Free Yourself from Anxiety, Poppy shares why anyone can benefit from letting go of ideas that no longer benefit us. In this episode, Poppy talks with us about our societal struggle with our egos, ...
Navigating Change Is An Opportunity for Growth
August 07, 2021 00:33 - 56 minutes - 103 MBGrowing — whether in our personal or professional lives — requires change. But change can be terrifying, no matter what stage in your life you’re at. Fortunately, there are people who can help us deal with change — and show us how it can transform our lives and the communities around us. Josh Chambers has done it all. Prior to being an entrepreneur and the founder of the Moon March agency, he was an aid worker, an advertising executive, and a professional athlete. Now, with his agency, he h...
How a College Student Founded NOLA’s First Glass Recycling Plant
August 02, 2021 20:19 - 37 minutes - 29.6 MBRecycling glass turned this young founder into a TikTok star. Franziska Trautmann was at the end of her college career when her frustration at her city’s (New Orleans, Louisiana) lack of a recycling program for glass boiled over. But rather than just stewing on it, she jumped into action and created the solution that she wanted to see. With the help of her friends, Franziska set out to change her city for the better with her company, Glass Half Full. Today, Glass Half Full is a company that...
How Poetry Keeps Us Hopeful with Maggie Smith
July 26, 2021 07:00 - 41 minutes - 33.6 MBMaggie Smith is an award-winning poet who shot to prominence in 2016 with her viral poem, Good Bones. Widely celebrated in the poetry community for her lyricism and her poetic style, Maggie’s poems have appeared in publications such as The New York Times and The Paris Review. Her bestseller, Keep Moving: Notes on Loss, Creativity, and Change (2020), was a breakout collection of personal essays and affirmations which launched her to new heights. Returning with Goldenrod — a collection of poem...
Do Petitions Even Do Anything?
July 19, 2021 07:00 - 34 minutes - 27.3 MBPetitions help people feel like they’re making change in the world — but do they really make a difference? Stuart Perelmuter, the founder of OD Action and Atadvocacy, has worked for over a decade to keep hundreds and thousands of people informed and engaged in progressive politics through cause-related community development. From launching his own action network to working as a communications strategist on Capitol Hill, Stuart Perelmuter has partnered with various candidates and causes — in...
How to Keep Juneteenth Alive All Year Round
June 28, 2021 07:00 - 29 minutes - 23.4 MBPulitzer Prize winner Professor Annette Gordon-Reed has been celebrating Juneteenth her entire life. But in light of the global spotlight on the Black Lives Matter movement from last year’s protests against police brutality, more and more people are aware of what Juneteenth represents for America. As well as a celebration of Black joy and liberty, Juneteenth is an opportunity to reflect on the history of emancipation—and how we can continue to fight for civil rights the other days of the yea...
Intervening When You See Harassment Is Easier Than You Think
June 14, 2021 07:00 - 37 minutes - 25.8 MBIntervening when someone is being harassed feels scary. But a global, people-powered movement called Hollaback is making it easy to put an end to harassment — and they’re seeing huge progress. The organization has grown to 14 countries, where it provides free trainings on conflict de-escalation, bystander intervention, resilience, and more. Through their simple, effective programming, Hollback is on a mission to empower people to take a stand against harassment and effect positive change. I...
Ending Global Homelessness Through Innovation
June 07, 2021 07:00 - 42 minutes - 29.3 MBThe nonprofit New Story is solving global homelessness with innovative and holistic solutions. By providing financing and creating innovative home designs and processes, New Story has built 26 communities in four countries, all while partnering with local builders using local resources. The organization prides itself on experimenting with new housing solutions — they even built the world’s first 3D printed community in Mexico. Since 2015, New Story has funded more than 2,300 homes for more t...
Saving the Bees with Bee Girl Sarah
May 31, 2021 07:00 - 42 minutes - 34 MBSarah Red-Laird is “the bee girl” who started the nonprofit The Bee Girl Organization to educate and inspire communities to conserve bees, their flowers, and our countryside. The nonprofit helps to regenerate soil, bees, and communities through educational programs and events for both kids and adults. They also partner with universities, public land managers, and private companies to conduct bee health and habitat research. In this episode, Sarah shares why bees are so important for agricul...
Changing the World Happens Best in Community
May 24, 2021 07:00 - 43 minutes - 29.7 MBTerence Lester (Love Beyond Walls) is making a difference for people experiencing poverty, homelessness, and economic inequality. He founded Love Beyond Walls, an Atlanta-based organization that serves people experiencing homelessness. He returns to the podcast for the second time to discuss the power of change-making in the context of community and collaboration. He shares tips for reducing burnout and how to break down barriers that prevent us from taking action. Guest: Terence Lester, fo...
6 Good News Stories to Make Your Week Better
May 17, 2021 07:00 - 29 minutes - 23.5 MBThere’s always good news if you know where to look. Every month, we publish a print newspaper called The Goodnewspaper, full of hope and ways to make a meaningful difference. In this episode, Branden sits with the managing editor of The Goodnewspaper, Kailey Thompson, to share our favorite good news stories from the first half of 2021. These stories will inspire you and challenge you to go out into the world and become good news. Get good news delivered to your doorstep each month by subscr...
How to Fight Gun Violence with Shannon Watts
May 10, 2021 07:00 - 53 minutes - 36.7 MBMoms Demand Action began the day after the Sandy Hook shooting, which claimed the lives of 28 people, including 20 children. Shannon Watts, a mother of five, knew she needed to do something — so she moved into action to end gun violence. She started Moms Demand Action, a non-partisan grassroots movement of moms who fight for stronger gun laws in America and encourage responsible gun ownership. Moms Demand Action has a volunteer chapter in every state plus Washington, D.C. Their work include...
Rainbow Railroad Is Helping LGBTQ+ People Flee Persecution
May 03, 2021 07:00 - 37 minutes - 25.5 MBRainbow Railroad helps LGBTQ+ people escape countries where they face imminent danger because of their sexual orientation or gender identity. The Canada-based organization works to solve a multi-layered problem that goes beyond LGBTQ+ persecution — they’re also responding to a global refugee crisis. Refugees already face mounting challenges, but anti-LGTBQ+ legislation only adds to the obstacles. The organization addresses both challenges together. The organization has been praised for hel...
John Moe Is Fighting Mental Health Stigma With Humor
April 26, 2021 08:00 - 36 minutes - 24.7 MBJohn Moe (“Depresh Mode,” “The Hilarious World of Depression”) is bringing humor to mental health. The writer and radio personality’s work often centers on his mental health journey, and his writing has appeared in numerous humor anthologies as well as The New York Times Magazine, McSweeney's, The Seattle Times, and many more publications. For two decades, he hosted nationally distributed public radio programs. Following decades of living with undiagnosed depression, John is now using his p...
What’s Happening at the U.S./Mexico Border and How to Help
April 19, 2021 07:00 - 1 hour - 45.9 MBYonathan Moya grew up on the U.S./Mexico border and sought out a way to tell the stories of the people living there. Following a nine-day photographic journey in 2017, he launched an organization supporting families along the border. Border Perspective leads service-learning trips along the south Texas border to provide opportunities to support local immigrant ministries and to better understand the complexity of immigration. In this episode, Yonathan and Branden discuss what’s currently ha...
Why a Plant-Based Diet Can Save the World
April 12, 2021 07:00 - 26 minutes - 21.3 MBGene Stone (author of “Forks Over Knives”) has spent the last decade writing about plant-based diets and their relationship to health, animal protection, and the environment. The former Peace Corps volunteer and journalist (Esquire, GQ, and Vogue) is a New York Times bestselling author who has written popular books including “Forks Over Knives,” “How Not to Die,” “The Secrets of People Who Never Get Sick,” “The Engine 2 Diet,” and “Eat for the Planet.” This episode, Gene shares his journey ...
3 Myths About Changing the World
April 05, 2021 07:00 - 33 minutes - 26.6 MBAll over the world, mysterious signs have been popping up. They say messages like: “Don’t give up.” “You are worthy of love.” “Your mistakes don’t define you.” Today we’re introducing you to the woman behind these messages and the global movement: Amy Wolff. One weekend in 2017, Amy and her family anonymously staked in yards in their small town of Newberg, Oregon. They had just learned of suicide rates in their town and wanted to find a way to encourage community members. Little did they kno...
Sharing Your Story & Creating Community
March 29, 2021 07:00 - 25 minutes - 20.4 MBAt 22, Paige More (The Breasties) got a preventative double mastectomy before ever being diagnosed with cancer. At the time, she was working as a producer for Good Morning America and felt on top of the world, but she had just discovered she carried the BRCA 1 gene mutation that indicates a higher risk for developing breast, ovarian, and other types of cancer. While seeking resources, support, and guidance online, she was discouraged to find only stories of nightmare experiences and worst-ca...
How to Support Creators of Color
March 22, 2021 07:00 - 42 minutes - 34.4 MBPhotographer Aundre Larrow (@aundre) has worked with clients such as The North Face, Amex, Volcom, Lululemon, and the Warriors, and his work has been published in the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal. His work aims to show the fundamental value in each person and commonly captures the intersection of art and racial justice. He’s currently hosting an Instagram series called Equity Through Editing about how to edit photos to accurately portray skin tones. In this episode, Aundre sha...
What We Can Learn From the World’s Most Notable Activists
March 15, 2021 07:00 - 32 minutes - 22.5 MBJournalist and photographer KK Ottesen has photographed and interviewed the world’s most notable politicians and activists. She is a regular contributor to The Washington Post Magazine, and her work has appeared in many other international publications. Her new book, “Activist: Portraits of Courage” includes portraits of Stacey Abrams, John Lewis, Tarana Burke, Edward Snowden, Bernie Sanders, Cecile Richards, Al Sharpton, Gabrielle Giffords, Angela Davis, and many more. In her book, these w...
How Writing Can Help You Make Sense of the World & Make a Bigger Difference
March 08, 2021 09:00 - 39 minutes - 31.4 MBExpert writing coach Allison Fallon says writing can help you unlock your purpose. Allison is the author of “The Power of Writing It Down” and founder of the writing coaching company Find Your Voice. In Allison’s newest book, she shares why writing down your story is one of the most powerful tools you have at our disposal to see your life with clarity and generate positive change. In the first half of this episode, Allison shares why it’s important to sit with the obstacles, blocks, and pai...
How to Make the World More Generous and Thoughtful with Sharon McMahon
March 01, 2021 08:00 - 26 minutes - 18.1 MBThis teacher has turned to Instagram to combat misinformation. Sharon McMahon — who describes herself as “America’s (not boring) government teacher” — and her highly engaged Instagram community (self-described as Governerds) — just joined forces and raised enough money to forgive $50 million in medical debt — breaking records in just a matter of days. Sharon is a former high school government and law teacher on a mission to confront political misinformation and conspiracies. She uses her po...
Environmentalism Must Care for People and the Planet
February 22, 2021 08:00 - 33 minutes - 27 MBActivist Leah Thomas created a platform to address the ways environmentalism impacts not only the planet, but the people on it, too. She calls the platform Intersectional Environmentalist, a movement that addresses and incorporates lawyer and scholar Kimberlé Crenshaw’s feminist framework of intersectionality.The platform Leah co-founded is now home to resources, information, and action steps to dismantle systems of oppression in the environmental movement. In the first half of this episode...
This Organization Is Helping Young People Get Elected
February 15, 2021 08:00 - 29 minutes - 23.6 MBAfter working on Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton's presidential campaigns, Amanda Litman founded Run for Something, an organization dedicated to helping young and non-traditional candidates successfully run for office. Run for Something removes barriers to entry by providing assistance with behind-the-scenes mechanics, tactical and strategic support, advice, mentorship, training, and everything in between. Between 2017 and 2020, they’ve helped elect nearly 500 candidates in 46 states. In ...
Positive Peace and How We Can Get More of It
February 08, 2021 08:00 - 36 minutes - 29.4 MBIs the world becoming more peaceful? Or less? How would we know if it was? In an effort to measure peace, entrepreneur and philanthropist Steve Killelea founded the Institute for Economics and Peace, a nonprofit global research institute that measures peace levels around the world. The Institute created the conceptual framework for “positive peace,” which describes the attitudes, structures and institutions that underpin and sustain peaceful societies. Hint: Peace includes more than just an...
Jedidiah Jenkins on Finding Your Purpose
February 01, 2021 08:00 - 41 minutes - 28.2 MBJedidiah Jenkins is a travel writer who lives with life with intention and purpose. He worked a dream job as a lawyer for the nonprofit Invisible Children before quitting to bike 10,000 miles from Oregon to Patagonia. He wrote a New York Times-bestselling book about his experience and has inspired thousands of people to engage their own lives with similar curiosity and passion. He is also the executive editor of Wilderness magazine. In this episode, Branden and Jedidiah talk about the nuanc...
[Unedited] Jedidiah Jenkins on Finding Your Purpose
February 01, 2021 08:00 - 53 minutes - 36.7 MBThis is the full-length, unedited version of our conversation with Jedidiah Jenkins. Jedidiah was one of our first-ever guests on the show when we launched Sounds Good five years ago. His episode remains one of our most popular episodes, so we thought it would be fun to release the full unedited conversation of our latest conversation together. Enjoy! Check out the previous episode in your feed for the shorter, edited version of this episode. Jedidiah Jenkins is a travel writer who lives wi...
Can Wearing a Dress Change the World?
January 25, 2021 08:00 - 36 minutes - 29.3 MBDressember founder and CEO Blythe Hill is on a mission to use fashion to end human trafficking. What she started as a style challenge in 2009, she turned into a nonprofit with global reach. The challenge is simple: Every December, wear a dress (or tie) every day. It’s a great conversation starter, and it works to raise funds for trafficking prevention, intervention, and survivor protection. In the first half of the episode, Blythe tells the story of how she started Dressember and how it wor...
How To Combat Your Media Echo Chamber
January 18, 2021 08:00 - 27 minutes - 18.7 MBEcho chambers are a real problem in our news and media consumption. We follow, listen to, and read news from people who tell us what we already believe, so we run the risk of missing out on the truth or valuable perspectives. Our guest, Harleen Kaur, co-founded Ground News, a news comparison platform that promises to uncover your media blind spots by offering news for people from all political ideologies through their website, app, newsletters, and browser extension. In the first half of th...
Shane Claiborne on Abolishing the Death Penalty
January 11, 2021 08:00 - 33 minutes - 23 MBShane Claiborne is an outspoken critic of the death penalty. He’s a well-respected justice system reform activist and Christian faith leader, and he believes capital punishment needs to go for good in the United States — a country that’s in company with China, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, and Egypt for countries with the highest execution rates. In the first half of today’s episode, Shane shares how he came to believe so passionately against the death penalty, lay out the most important facts,...
This Nonprofit Helps Kids Grow $100 Into Thousands For Charity
January 04, 2021 08:00 - 26 minutes - 21.5 MBThe nonprofit Kids Boost empowers kids to become philanthropists and social entrepreneurs. With $100 in start-up funding, kids work with a one-on-one coach to raise funds for a charity they love. On average, participants turn the initial $100 into $1,850 for deserving charities. In the first half of this episode, Kids Boost founder Kristen Williams tells the story of a 12-year-old named Jared, who inspired her to start Kids Boost, and how participants creatively raise money for the causes t...
3 Steps to Emotional Wellness with Miles Adcox
December 28, 2020 08:00 - 41 minutes - 28.7 MBMiles Adcox (Onsite Workshops, Unspoken Podcast) is passionate about emotional wellness. His company offers life-changing personal growth workshops, leadership retreats, and emotional treatment. He lives his life by three concepts: Empathy over action, love over agenda, and grace over advice. He also co-hosts a podcast, Unspoken, with friend of the show Ruthie Lindsey. In the first half of this episode, Miles explains what is and isn’t self-care, how to balance negative and positive emotion...
How to Be an Ally During a Crisis
December 21, 2020 14:21 - 18 minutes - 15.1 MBDanielle Coke (@ohhappydani) uses art to educate and inspire her Instagram followers about anti-racism and allyship. For many of us, this year has inspired big questions about how to meaningfully take action and make a difference in the realm of a lot of big problems — and especially systemic racism and racial injustice. These problems aren’t new, but this year has brought them to front of mind for many for the very first time. Dani’s work helps people understand racial justice work and how ...
Why Ranked Choice Voting Could Save Us
December 14, 2020 08:00 - 34 minutes - 27.8 MBKatherine Gehl says reforming our voting system is the solution to political division and gridlock. Our current political system makes polarization and incivility commonplace and compromise nearly impossible, but ranked choice voting promises to make efficient cooperation possible. Katherine founded Democracy Found and The Institute for Political Innovation, organizations that work to catalyze political change in America. In the first half of this episode, Katherine describes how increased ...
Terence Lester is Helping Forgotten People Wash Their Hands
December 07, 2020 15:10 - 27 minutes - 22.1 MBTerence Lester (Love Beyond Walls, Dignity Museum) is on the forefront of providing support for people experiencing homelessness — in Atlanta, Georgia and around the world. More than 500,000 people experience homelessness every single night — and their needs are made worse by COVID-19. It's a serious problem — in need of empathetic and creative solutions. In the first half of this episode, Branden sits down with Terence to discuss new solutions being created in response to coronavirus — and...
Sounds Good is Back!
November 30, 2020 08:00 - 7 minutes - 5.48 MBThe podcast that leaves you feeling more hopeful is coming back! Sounds Good hosts hopeful conversations with optimists and world-changers about the headlines we can be hopeful about — and how you can get involved and make a difference. Every week, Good Good Good founder Branden Harvey sits down with the people driving positive change against the world's greatest problems. Each episode will leave you with a sense of hope about the good in the world — and a sense of direction on how we can a...
Sarah Corbett — The Art of Gentle Protest
April 17, 2019 00:36 - 58 minutes - 109 MBToday, there are good reasons to doubt the effectiveness of many elements of conventional activism—oftentimes marked by aggression, extreme extroversion and violence. Award-winning campaigner Sarah Corbett started looking for alternatives that appealed to the introvert, namely, craftivism. Sarah’s gentle protest approach to craftivism aims to change the world with deliberate, thoughtful actions that provoke reflection and respectful conversation instead of aggression and division. She’...
Tyson Motsenbocker — Walking Through Doubt
April 02, 2019 15:09 - 1 hour - 128 MBTyson Motsenbocker is a songwriter and guitarist living in San Diego, California. After the release of two EP’s Until it Lands and Rivers and Roads Tyson defined himself as a mature lyricist and accomplished songwriter, sharing the stage with the likes of David Bazan, Vance Joy and James Bay. In 2013, after the death of his mother and hero, Tyson walked the six hundred mile stretch of coastline to San Francisco in memory of her. In the contrast of loud cars on a dirty highway with the sere...
Celebrating 3 Years of Sounds Good!
March 25, 2019 15:45 - 10 minutes - 8.8 MBBranden Harvey jumps in with a short episode to share some exciting personal news, celebrate three years of making Sounds Good, and highlighting what’s ahead for Year 4 of the podcast. soundsgoodpodcast.com
Nadya Okamoto — Google Stuff and Just Do It
February 18, 2019 17:55 - 40 minutes - 28 MBNadya Okamoto founded PERIOD at the age of 16, and so Branden and Nadya talk about periods and how to make a difference while you’re young.
Pantsuit Politics — How to Have Conversations About Politics
February 11, 2019 17:34 - 35 minutes - 24.5 MBSarah Stewart Holland and Beth Silvers launched their podcast, Pantsuit Politics, in November of 2015 with the goal of listening to each other first, and talking politics second — even though Sarah is on the left of the political spectrum and Beth is on the right.