Sisters in Loss Podcast: Miscarriage, Pregnancy Loss, & Infertility Stories

343 - Bereaved Mother's Day - Honoring our Angels

International Bereaved Mother’s Day is this upcoming Sunday, May 5, 2024.  This day is for us to show our love for our babies gone to heaven far too soon. Sunday, May 12, 2024 in the US we celebrate Mother’s Day. Mother’s Day can be very challenging, difficult emotionally, and with social distancing and quarantine can and will be very lonely for many Sisters in Loss. Today’s episode is my love letter to you letting you know that You are a Mother! All of the needle pokes, disappointing news, ...

342 - State of Black Maternal Health - REWIND

April is Sisters in Loss Infertility Awareness Month!  All month long we will be highlighting infertility stories and journey’s.   Black Maternal Health week was April 11-17 and Infertility Awareness Week is April 18-24.  This week we are talking about reproductive health. Did you know that some midwives specialize in high risk births and pregnancy after loss or infertility?  Today’s guest is a Certified Nurse Midwife and founder of Sakina Health who partners with birthing families to ...

341 - Black Birth Stories with Shayla Brown

Black birth stories have joy and they also do have trauma.  In today's episode we dive into the creator of the Black Birth Story blog Shayla Brown's own birth story and journey to becoming a mom.  Shayla has been pregnant over 10 times with a few miscarriages and one heterotopic pregnancy that resulted in her losing a fraternal twin ectopically and being currently pregnant with the other twin.  She shares her journey through grieving while mothering and removing negative emotions, recognizin...

340 - Pregnancy After Loss - Stillbirth and Malia's Present with Helena Morais

Parenting after loss is a journey. It's important to make space for conflicting emotions. Don't put pressure on yourself to feel that having another baby will resolve or put an end to the pain of a previous loss. It's okay to feel happiness and sadness at the same time. Life may be moving on, but this doesn't mean you have to let go of a previous loss. In today's episode Helena Morais shares her stillbirth story and pregnancy after loss journey and inspiration for Malia's present.  She los...

339 - Parenting After Loss - Honoring my Angel Baby and Earthly Baby with Nkemka Egbuho

Parenting after loss is a journey. It's important to make space for conflicting emotions. Don't put pressure on yourself to feel that having another baby will resolve or put an end to the pain of a previous loss. It's okay to feel happiness and sadness at the same time. Life may be moving on, but this doesn't mean you have to let go of a previous loss. In today's episode we have Nkemka Egbudo back to share her journey of parenting after loss being a mom to a 1 year old.  We talk about what...

338 - Trying Again: Anxiety & Stress during Pregnancy After Loss

Below are some coping tips that worked for me on how to Handle the Anxiety, Fear and Stress that comes with Pregnancy After Loss. Focus on one day at a time. Easier said than done, right?  But I always keep my favorite verse with me that  "All things work together for the good of those who are called according to his purpose." Romans 8:28 If God has called you to be a mother especially for you to have another child it will happen, it is his purpose for your life.  I learned to take my preg...

337 - Trying to Conceive: I'm Pregnant! Pregnancy After Loss

Congratulations!  You are now pregnant and are ready to embark on another journey of bringing forth life.  It can be a very difficult journey of pregnancy if you are not ready to face fear, anxiety, and any other preconceived feelings of pregnancy after loss. Most women who become pregnant after experiencing miscarriage, stillbirth, or infant death find themselves hit by a flood of different emotions when they first discover that they’re pregnant again.  Below are some different emotions...

336 - Trying to Conceive: Making the Decision to Try Again with Erica Michelle

Are you ready to try to conceive?  Today's episode is a solo episode by Founder Erica Michelle on Trying Again and Making the Decision to try to conceive. Making the decision to try again is not an easy one.  This decision may trigger many different emotions and bring on anxiety, fear, guilt, inadequacy, hopelessness, and a sense of failure.  In this series I plan to equip you with the questions to ask yourself and your partner to prepare your mind, body, and inner self for another pregn...

335 - Easing into 2024 with Erica Michelle

2024 is here and we are kicking off the year with a solo episode.  Our founder, Erica Michelle, shares about easing into 2024, goals for Sisters in Loss in 2024, and surviving and thriving in 2024. Become a Sisters in Loss Birth Bereavement, and Postpartum Doula Here Living Water Doula Services Book Recommendations and Links Below You can shop my Amazon Store for the Book Recommendations You can follow Sisters in Loss on Social Join our Healing Collective Online Support Group ...

334 - Can marriage survive the loss of a child? The Martin’s Pregnancy Loss Journey with PCOS and Chasing Rainbows Podcast - REWIND

Pregnancy loss and infertility can be so hard on a marriage. It can either tear the couple apart or bring them closer together. In fact it is said that almost 80% of couples who experience a miscarriage or infertility end up in divorce. In this month of love we will be featuring 4 couples showing by prayer, faith in God, and a strong commitment to stay together their marriages endured the hard times of pregnancy loss and infertility. This is the last couple in our series The Martin’s. They a...

333 - Can marriage survive the loss of a child? The Pruitt’s Unexplained Infertility Journey and Gracefully Waiting Ministry - REWIND

Pregnancy loss and infertility can be so hard on a marriage. It can either tear the couple apart or bring them closer together. In fact it is said that almost 80% of couples who experience a miscarriage or infertility end up in divorce. In this month of love we will be featuring 4 couples showing by prayer, faith in God, and a strong commitment to stay together their marriages endured the hard times of pregnancy loss and infertility. In this episode we have the Pruitt’s who share their infer...

332 - Can marriage survive the loss of a child? Donor Sperm and IVF Journey in Same Sex Marriage with Tynisha Walker-Whitfield - REWIMD

What is PPROM? Preterm premature rupture of the membranes (PPROM) is a pregnancy complication. In this condition, the sac (amniotic membrane) surrounding your baby breaks (ruptures) before week 37 of pregnancy. Once the sac breaks, you have an increased risk for infection. Today’s guest experienced 4 losses, 9 IUIs, and 5 IVF transfers.  Her most recent loss was due to PPROM and incompetent cervix of her son Gabriel at 19 weeks gestation. Her first loss was due to a left ovarian ectopic pr...

331 - Can marriage survive the loss of a child? Xenia and Sheldon’s Twin Miscarriage Story & Twin Parenting Journey with Nolan and Nash - REWIND

Can marriage survive the loss of a child?  Losing a child is the hardest thing a couple can go through. In fact 80 percent of marriages end in divorce after the loss of a child.  For the month of December we are sharing the stories of 4 couples and how their marriages not only survived the loss of a child, but continued to thrive.     In today’s episode we have the Garrets.  Sheldon and Xenia met in undergrad at Louisiana State University and began dating a little over 10 years ago.  Th...

330 - Can marriage survive the loss of a child? Ivori and Kevin’s Loss Story and Loving Our Angel - REWIND

Can marriage survive the loss of a child?  Losing a child is the hardest thing a couple can go through. In fact 80 percent of marriages end in divorce after the loss of a child.  For the month of December we are sharing the stories of 4 couples and how their marriages not only survived the loss of a child, but continued to thrive.     In today’s episode we have the Warren’s.   Ivori and Kevin Warren have been married for 16 years and are a the mommy and daddy to an Angel  born in heaven...

329 - Can marriage survive the loss of a child? Valencya and Jerrell Thompson’s Fertility Journey and Fertility Hope Ministry - REWIND

  Can marriage survive the loss of a child?  Losing a child is the hardest thing a couple can go through. In fact 80 percent of marriages end in divorce after the loss of a child.  For the month of December we are sharing the stories of 4 couples and how their marriages not only survived the loss of a child, but continued to thrive.     In today’s episode we have the Thompsons.  Valencya and Jerrell Thompson are the founders of the #fertilityhope ministry.  Valencya Thompson holds Mas...

328 - Can marriage survive the loss of a child? Talysa & John’s Miscarriage Story & Helping Others through Connections - REWIND

Can marriage survive the loss of a child?  Losing a child is the hardest thing a couple can go through. In fact 80 percent of marriages end in divorce after the loss of a child.  For the month of December we are sharing the stories of 4 couples and how their marriages not only survived the loss of a child, but continued to thrive.     In today’s episode we have the McCall’s.  John and Talysa McCall have been married for 6 years and reside Camp Lejeune, NC.  John is serving our country i...

327 - Remembering my Child with Alisha Reginal

Today's episode is all about how to remember your child during the Holidays, but also all year long. Alisha Reginal shares her stillbirth journey losing her first son at 36 weeks gestation.  She left the hospital empty handed full of memorabilia but her heart was shattered.  Alisha still doesn't know the medical reason for his death.  She clung to her faith and tried again and shares her journey to conceiving her rainbow baby and delivery. Alisha chose to remember her son Travis Jr. thro...

326 - Getting to Joy after Infertility, Stillbirth, and Parenting after loss with Tacole Robinson

Today’s guest is a mother of 8! Yes, you read that correct she was called to this hood called motherhood. Tacole Robinson endured much heartache and disappointment while seeking to fulfill God’s promises for her to become a mother. She has 2 adopted children, 2 foster child, 2 stepchildren, and 2 biological children through IVF. Her ministry centers her children both foster and adopted medically fragile and healing and deliverance for those in need. She shares her story in detail in episode ...

325 - Join the Sisters in Loss Grief Support Group with Erica M. Freeman

Today's episode is a solo episode where I discuss what has been going on with Sisters in Loss behind the scenes and all about our grief support groups.  In 2022, Sisters in Loss partnered with Postpartum Support International to host a bi-weekly grief support group for Black mothers who have experienced pregnancy loss, infant loss, stillbirth, miscarriage, child loss, and infertiilty. Our group named Black Moms in Loss falls under the support groups that PSI offers at postpartum.net.  This g...

324 - Why your VOTE matters for Black Infant and Maternal Health!

You are listening to a special episode of the Sisters in Loss Podcast.  As many of my US listeners know next Tuesday, November 7, 2023 is Election Day and Midterm elections, and we have the power to change and shift the paradigm of maternal and infant mortality in America with our vote.  In today’s episode I sit down with March of Dimes President Stacey D. Stewart to discuss their Blanket Change Campaign launched on October 10, 2017, and why our vote matters in this election, why the materna...

323 - Deciding not to Terminate for Medical Reasons with Maria Okehie

Today's episode is about deciding not to terminate for medical reasons.  Many parents are faced with this decision once finding out their babies have abnormalities that will not give them the best quality of life.  Today's guest Maria Okehie decided to keep her baby boy after being told he had a stroke in utero and had severe brain damage that he wouldn't make it through labor and delivery.  Maria's son was born via c-section and he passed away less than two weeks after he was born. In thi...

322 - How the Pandemic encouraged this Angel Mom to cope with her losses with Henrietta 'Retta' Brown

Today's guest has been through several losses.  Miscarriage, chemical pregnancy, second trimester loss, and stillbirth.  However, Henrietta 'Retta' Brown didn't really begin her healing or coping with her losses until the pandemic happened.  Retta didn't really have any family or friends to help her through her journey and wished she did.  She did have her rainbow baby girl who is now 7 and is now dealing with all of her feelings from her losses.  Retta heard God say its time to help the mul...

321 - Recurrent Miscarriages and Finding Missing Pieces with Jamilah Robinson

Today's guest experienced four high risk pregnancies and has two living children. Jamilah Robinson had endured recurrent miscarriages in between birthing her 9 year old son and her rainbow baby who is 3 years old.  After the miscarriages she was told she was infertile.  Jamilah underwent exploratory surgery and went through testing to quality for fertiliy treatments and a IVF research study.  In the midst of the testing and research, she was able to conceive her rainbow baby naturally. In ...

320 - Pregnancy after Loss during the Pandemic and The Mom Bar with Dadriaunna Hayes

We are kicking off Pregnancy and Infant Loss Awareness month with all new episodes.  Todays episode is an update from our episode 153 guest Dadriaunna Hayes. Dadriaunna Hayes lost her son at 24 weeks gestation due to cervical incompetence and experienced birth trauma. She went into pre-term labor and the hospital she was at did not have a NICU or Labor and Delivery center so she had to be transferred. Once transferred she endured a cerclage, 2 epidurals in 48 hours, allergic reaction to ...

319 - Second Trimester Loss and Faces of H.O.P.E. with Nekia Mba

Today's guest lost her son Anthony at 23 weeks gestation.  She grieved and wished she had adequate resources to cope with this profound loss.  Nekia Mba then welcomed her rainbow baby girl Victoria during the pandemic in March 2021. She had a redeemed experience throughout her pregnancy and an amazing delivery.  Her and her husband were ready to try again and the unimaginable happend she lost another baby her daughter Genevieve at 18 weeks.   In today's episode, Nekia shares how she is cop...

318 - Triplet Loss and Grandmother's Story with Alicia Harris - REWIND

Have you ever heard the perspective of loss from a grandmother? Today’s episode features the story of triplet loss of Alicia Harris grandbabies.  She is joined by her daughter who both highlight and share their experiences of the journey to motherhood.  This episode is for you to listen to if you want to hear the loss perspective of a mother and grandmother, how they overcame grief together, and how a rainbow baby grounded their mother daughter relationship. Listen to this episode here: ...

317 - Expectful App for Pregnancy Loss and Trying to Conceive with Nathalie Walton - REWIND

Have you practiced mindful meditation? Well your time to do so is now using the Expectful app. What is Expectful? It is the mentall health app for use before, during, and after pregnancy. Including Pregnancy Loss, Infertility, and Trying to Conceive. In today’s episode, we have on Expectful’s CEO, Nathalie Walton to share how meditation saved her pregnancy, her transition into being an app user to now CEO, Black women in Tech and why this app is for Black women, and the evolution and f...

316 - PCOS, Infertility, and Trying to Conceive with Nkemka Egbuho - REWIND

Polycystic Ovary Syndrome (PCOS) is a common hormone disorder in women that is also the leading cause of female infertility. September is recognized as PCOS awareness month. PCOS is one of the most underdiagnosed diseases in the world, with less than 25% of women with PCOS being diagnosed. Today’s guest was diagnosed with PCOS after experiencing a missed miscarriage. Nkemka Egbuho has been trying to conceive for 2 years battling infertility.  In this episode she shares how it hasn’t been...

315 - Missed Miscarriage and Fertility Treatments with Whitney McCoy - REWIND

Have you heard of the term Missed Miscarriage? A missed miscarriage is when a baby has died in the womb, but the mother hasn’t had any symptoms, such as bleeding or pain. Any type of miscarriage can cause shock, but a missed miscarriage can be particularly difficult because of the lack of symptoms. Today’s guest experienced a missed miscarriage and has battled infertility.  Whitney McCoy is a wife, mom, and business owner of beauty brand NoirGirlbyJWhit and is a miscarriage survivor.  Sh...

314 - Medical Negligence and Sebastien’s Smile Foundation with Audri Cabness and Family - REWIND

Have you ever heard the perspective of loss from a grandmother, sibling, or cousin? Today’s episode features the story of Audri Cabness’s son Sebastien who was fatally injured and died to due to medical negligence in 2016. This catastrophic incident let Audri and her family to start a foundation called Sebastien’s smile in his honor.  Audri also has a family healing book called “Scootie Toots and the Feathers from Heaven” to help other families from parents to children begin to cope with g...

313 - Loss and Overcoming Grief moving towards Healing with Turia West - REWIND

Do you know what TFMR or Termination for Medical Reasons is? Termination for Medical Reasons, or TFMR, is when a pregnancy is terminated due to a chromosomal, genetic or structural fetal abnormality, or where continuing the pregnancy would risk the health or life of the mother. Today’s guest experienced 14 losses.  Yes, this isn’t a typo.  Turia West is a wife and mom and is still on the journey of healing from grief and profound loss.  She gave birth to a healthy baby girl in 2008 and t...

312 - 6 Lessons Learned from 6 Years of Podcasting with Erica Michelle

Do you know what today is? It is our Anniversary!  Yes, our podcast began today on August 2, 2017 and we are celebrating 6 years of Sisters in Loss. Today's episode is a solo episode where Erica Michelle discusses 6 Lessons she has learned in 6 years of podcasting. This episode is for you to listen to if you are interested in podcasting and want to know how to invest your time, money, resources, and creativity into this amazing life changing medium. Become a Sisters in Loss Birth Berea...

311 - Loss and Overcoming Grief moving towards Healing with Turia West - REWIND

Do you know what TFMR or Termination for Medical Reasons is? Termination for Medical Reasons, or TFMR, is when a pregnancy is terminated due to a chromosomal, genetic or structural fetal abnormality, or where continuing the pregnancy would risk the health or life of the mother. Today’s guest experienced 14 losses.  Yes, this isn’t a typo.  Turia West is a wife and mom and is still on the journey of healing from grief and profound loss.  She gave birth to a healthy baby girl in 2008 and t...

310 - 10 Years of Male Factor Infertility, Missed Miscarriage and Twin Loss with Senoria Cain - REWIND

Today’s guest experienced secondary infertility due to male factor.  Senoria Cain is wife and mom to a 13 year old daughter.  She always knew her husband had a low sperm count and was able to see a urologist who recommended surgery to assist.  After 10 years of no protection and experiencing secondary infertility she was able to get pregnant.  At 12 weeks she was able to see the doctor for an ultrasound and found out she was having twins, but also that she was miscarrying them. Senoria had a...

309 - Miscarriage and Single Motherhood with Kourtney Mcgowan - REWIND

Today’s guest is a doula, student midwife, and single mother who has experienced racial disparities in the hospital that has affected her and her son.  Kourtney Mcgowan experienced a miscarriage after thinking she wouldn’t be able to conceive anymore children due to her endometriosis diagnosis.  In today’s episode she takes us back on her journey, the prejudice she faced, and how being a single mother is challenging, especially raising a Black son. Become a Sisters in Loss Birth Bereavem...

308 - LGBTQ+, IVF, and 2nd Trimester Loss with Dr. Gloria Pope - REWIND

The road to parenthood looks different for many of us Sisters in Loss.  This can be especially difficult for our masculine presenting LGBTQ+ sisters.  Today’s guest has experienced parenthood in many forms, from step kids, birthing her own with a sperm donor, IVF, loss, and a successful birth with her partner. Dr. Gloria Pope began to document her journey through her partner’s fertility treatments and IVF loss experience.  She realized the importance of sharing her perspective as a partner...

307 - Turning Child Loss into Sunsets with Ariane Oyere REWIND

Motherhood is what today’s guest calls a “Rites of Passage” to the best hoods on Mother Earth.  Ariane Oyere is a wife and mother of 7.  She experience the lost of her 3rd born at 9 years old and then two miscarriages after his Sunset.  Her babies she refers to as the Summer Solstice.  In this episode, Oyere takes us back to her greatest obstacles in losing her Sunsets.  She reframes child loss and miscarriage into sunset experiences.  We also discuss lactation through bereavement and othe...

306 - Termination for Medical Reasons (TFMR) with Hadeer El Hindawi REWIND

Have you heard of the term Termination for Medical Reasons (TFMR)? Termination for Medical Reasons, or TFMR, is when a pregnancy is terminated due to a chromosomal, genetic or structural fetal abnormality, or where continuing the pregnancy would risk the health or life of the mother. Today’s guest was able to conceive her first child naturally and had a healthy pregnancy and delivery. The journey to baby number two has been full of loss and heartbreak. Hadeer El Hindawi had 4 consecutive...

305 - Miscarriage Survivor and the Power of Healing with Simbi Animashaun REWIND

After having suffered multiple miscarriages for two years due to Fibroids, today’s guess used her faith and determination to heal from her losses and continue her journey to becoming a mother. Simbi Animashaun was determined to become a mother after her miscarriages and went onto have three children who are her rainbow babies.  In today’s episode Simbi shares her struggles with pregnancy loss, being a miscarriage survivor, and how she leaned on God for understanding. This episode is for yo...

304 - Endometriosis, low AMH, Placenta Previa, and Filling Empty Wombs with Sandra Elidor - REWIND

What Does Having Low AMH Levels Mean? Having low AMH levels can indicate that your ovaries are producing less of the preantral follicles. This is important as the fewer the number of follicles there are means there are less that can be stimulated for assisted contraception. Today’s guest suffered from endometriosis for 21 years before being properly diagnosed. Sandra Elidor also found out she had low AMH at age 30.  With Endo she had two surgeries, 1 fallopian tube, 1 successful IVF cycl...

303 - Fibroids, Myomectomy, and Infant Loss with Oligohydramnios with Christina Danyo - REWIND

Have you heard of the term Oligohydramnios? Low amniotic fluid (oligohydramnios) is a condition in which the amniotic fluid measures lower than expected for a baby’s gestational age. Today’s guest was preparing to conceive and had a myomectomy to remove her fibroids.  Christina Danyo learned she was expecting after her fibroid surgery.  During her 20 week anatomy scan she learned that her baby girl’s kidneys did not develop and was covered in cysts.  Her daughter was diagnosed with Oligo...

302 - Maternal Mental Health App Candle Lit Therapy with Lauren Elliott

May is Mental Health Awareness Month! Today's episode we discuss mental health and pregnancy with the new app Candle Lit Therapy.  Lauren Elliott created Candle Lit to help new mothers, moms of very young children and future moms of color prioritize their mental health. In this episode we discuss Lauren's inspiration for starting Candle Lit based on her journey to motherhood, and how she desired to feel supported when she welcomed her first child.  This episode is for you to listen to if y...

301 - How to find Donor Sperm in Same Sex Marriage with Tynisha Walker-Whitfield

What is PPROM? Preterm premature rupture of the membranes (PPROM) is a pregnancy complication. In this condition, the sac (amniotic membrane) surrounding your baby breaks (ruptures) before week 37 of pregnancy. Once the sac breaks, you have an increased risk for infection. Today's guest experienced 4 losses, 9 IUIs, and 5 IVF transfers.  Her most recent loss was due to PPROM and incompetent cervix of her son Gabriel at 19 weeks gestation. Her first loss was due to a left ovarian ectopic pr...

300 - Permission to be FREE with Erica Michelle

299 - God's Grace in Motherhood! Mother of 7 through Fostercare, Adoption, and IVF with Tacole Robinson

How is this mother of 7 living her purpose through foster care and adoption ministry? Today's guest is a mother of 7! Yes, you read that correct she was called to this hood called motherhood. Tacole Robinson endured much heartache and disappointment while seeking to fulfill God's promises for her to become a mother. She has 2 adopted children, 1 foster child, 2 stepchildren, and 2 biological children through IVF. Her ministry centers her children both foster and adopted medically fragile a...

298 - Unexplained Infertility and IVF Success with Rebecca Jean-Baptiste

Today's guest credits the ERA test to her having her rainbow baby. What is an ERA test?  An ERA Test or Endometrial Receptivity Analysis claims to help women pursuing In Vitro Fertilization (IVF) determine whether their endometrium is receiving an embryo at the right time in an attempt to maximize their chances of a successful pregnancy and live birth. Today's guest experienced 3 miscarriages and was sent to a fertility specialist to understand why. She was diagnosed with Unexplained Inf...

297 - Pregnancy Safe Cosmetics with Asfhan Hussain

Today's episode is all about what we put on our bodies and how it effects us in pregnancy.  I sit down with Afshan Hussain to discuss about her journey with pregnancy safe cosmetics. She is the Founder of Sexy, Beautiful, Empowered (SBE) Mommas. SBE aims to educate mothers about harmful ingredients in cosmetics and bath and skincare products.  SBE also provides safe cosmetic alternatives to empower the beauty within women. This episode is for you to listen to if you have wondered about res...

296 - Grieving Baby Loss with Dominique Simmons

Today's guest experienced a 3 week loss of her baby and describes how traumatic it was to leave the hospital empty handed.  Dominque Simmons shares how her journey to adopting a plant based diet helped her after experiencing reflux issues and having her galbladder removed. Her holistic diet ande supplements helped her conceive.  Dominique decided to get a doula, midwife, then experienced a traumatic loss of her sister due to gun violence.  This led her to change her delivery to a home water ...

295 - Miscarriage and Stillbirth with Ebony Canady

Today's guest experienced a miscarriage at 8 weeks and a 26 week stillbirth.  Ebony Canady shares in today's episode how motherhood has changed her in so many ways.  After experiencing her 8 week miscarriage she went onto having 3 live births.  Her last pregnancy ended with a 26 week stillbirth that rocked her world.  In today's episode, we discuss Ebony's journey to motherhood, her losses, her live births, parenting after loss and so much more. Become a Sisters in Loss Birth Bereavement...

294 - 10 Years to Become a Mother after Ectopic Pregnancy Loss and IVF with Dyneco Gibson

Today's guest battled infertility for 10 years before using a fertility specialist to conceive.  Dyneco Gibson, experienced a miscarriage, an ectopic pregnancy, and saw a fertility specialist to go through IVF and was successful at her first round. Tragically that ended in premature labor due to an incompetent cervix.   In this episode, Dyneco shares how postpartum depression showed up as she was trying to navigate trying to get pregnant again.  She ended up getting a cerclage that yielded...