Ship It! SRE, Platform Engineering, DevOps
102 episodes - English - Latest episode: 8 days ago - ★★★★★ - 1 ratingA podcast about everything that happens after `git push` Justin Garrison & Autumn Nash explore all things DevOps, infra, cloud & running apps in production. Whether you’re cloud native, Kubernetes curious, a pro SRE, or just operating a VPS… you’ll love coming along for the ride. Some people search for ShipIt or ShipItFM and can’t find the show, so now the strings ShipIt and ShipItFM are in our description too.
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Episodes
Bluesky apps
April 19, 2024 14:00 - 1 hour - 65.2 MBPaul Frazee joins the show to tell us all about how Bluesky builds, tests, and deploys mobile and web applications from the same code base.
From Kubernetes to Nix
April 13, 2024 13:00 - 1 hour - 68.4 MBWhy would you want to switch your developer environments from containers to nix? Ádám from LastPass has a few reasons.
Deploying projects vs products
April 07, 2024 00:45 - 1 hour - 67.8 MBVerónica López, Kubernetes SIG Release tech lead & distributed systems engineer, joins Justin & Autumn to share her experiences deploying services at scale.
SoCal Linux Expo
March 29, 2024 13:30 - 32 minutes - 31 MBJustin & Autumn take you with them to the 2024 SoCal Linux Expo where they asked six fellow attendees about their favorite open source projects and their least favorite commands.
Productivity engineering at Netflix
March 23, 2024 17:00 - 1 hour - 83.8 MBWhat’s the difference between productivity engineering and platform engineering? How can you continue to re-platform with a moving target? On this episode, we’re joined by Andy Glover, who spent ten years productivity engineering at Netflix, to discuss.
Containers on a diet
March 16, 2024 15:00 - 1 hour - 70.7 MBKyle Quest joins the show to tell Autumn & Justin all about the evolution of DockerSlim & minimal container images. Why are small container images important? What are different strategies to make containers smaller? Let’s find out!
Scoring your project’s security
March 09, 2024 23:00 - 1 hour - 77.1 MBAutumn and Justin are joined by Chris Swan to discuss tech industry trends like AI and sustainability, gamifying the software development process and motivating devs to write more secure code, OpenSSF Scorecards and how they offer a way to measure and improve the security and compliance of GitHub repos, the scoring system, and the security posture of a repository.
Hybrid infrastructure load balancing
March 01, 2024 20:20 - 1 hour - 61.1 MBWanny Morellato & Deepak Mohandas from Kong join Justin & Autumn to discuss building, testing & running a load balancer that can run anywhere.
Shipping in SPAAAACCEEE
February 23, 2024 14:00 - 1 hour - 63.2 MBWhat do you do when your infrastructure runs 1000 miles away and you only have access every 90 minutes? Find out from Andrew Guenther from Orbital Sidekick.
Building containers without Docker
February 16, 2024 16:40 - 57 minutes - 52.9 MBWe’re back! Jason Hall joins the show to tell Justin & Autumn all about how Chainguard builds hundreds of containers without a single Dockerfile.
Kaizen! Embracing change 🌟
March 02, 2023 16:15 - 1 hour - 70.4 MBThis is our 9th Kaizen with Adam & Jerod. We start today’s conversation with the most important thing: embracing change. For Gerhard, this means putting Ship It on hold after this episode. It also means making more time to experiment, maybe try a few of those small bets that we recently talked about with Daniel. Kaizen will continue, we are thinking on the Changelog. Stick around to hear the rest.
Rust efficiencies at AWS scale
February 16, 2023 14:50 - 1 hour - 58.4 MBTim McNamara is known as New Zealand’s Rust guy. He is the author of Rust in Action, and also a Senior Software Engineer at AWS, where he helps other builders with all things Rust. The main reason why Gerhard is intrigued by Rust is the incredible resource frugality. Fewer CPUs means less energy used, which is good for the planet, and good for the monthly bill. This becomes most noticeable at Amazon’s scale, when S3, Lambda, CloudFront and other services start adding Rust components.
Treat ideas like cattle, not pets
February 02, 2023 16:00 - 1 hour - 63.6 MBIn our ops & infra world, we learn to optimise for redundancy, for mean time to recovery and for graceful degradation. We instinctively recognise single points of failure, and try to mitigate the risks associated with them. For some years now, Daniel Vassallo has been doing the same, but in the context of life & work. Daniel talks about the role of randomness, about learning from small wins & about optimising for a lifestyle that matches your true preferences,. Apparently, ideas too should be...
Why we switched to serverless containers
January 26, 2023 14:35 - 1 hour - 62.7 MBLast September, at the 🇨🇭 Swiss Cloud Native Day, Florian Forster, co-founder & CEO of ZITADEL, talked about why they switched to serverless containers. ZITADEL has a really interesting workload that is both CPU intensive and latency sensitive. On top of this, their users are global, and traffic is bursty. Florian talks about how they evaluated AWS, GCP & Azure before they settled on the platform that met their requirements.
Human scale deployments
January 20, 2023 17:15 - 53 minutes - 49.3 MBLars is big on Elixir. Think apps that scale really well, tend to be monolithic, and have one of the most mature deployment models: self-contained releases & built-in hot code reloading. In episode 7, Gerhard talked to Lars about “Why Kubernetes”. There is a follow-up YouTube stream that showed how to automate deploys for an Elixir app using K3s & ArgoCD. More than a year later, how does Lars think about running applications in production? What does simple & straightforward mean to him? Gerha...
The hard parts of platform engineering
January 11, 2023 18:45 - 1 hour - 70.8 MBMarcos Nils has been into platform engineering for the best part of the last decade. He helped architect & build developer platforms using VMs & OpenStack, containers with Docker, and even Kubernetes. He did this at startups with 10 people, as well as large, publicly traded companies with 1000+ software engineers. Today we talk with Marcos about the hard parts of platform engineering.
Bare metal meets Talos Linux (the K8s OS)
January 05, 2023 16:40 - 1 hour - 58.8 MBWelcome to 2023! A new year is the perfect time to start with a fresh perspective. Given a few bare metal hosts with fast, local storage, how would you run your workloads on them? Would you cluster them for redundancy? What operating system would you choose? Steve Francis, CEO at Sidero Labs and Andrew Rynhard, CTO at Sidero Labs join us today to talk about running Talos Linux on bare metal.
🎄 Planning for failure to ship faster 🎁
December 15, 2022 14:30 - 1 hour - 59.9 MBEight months ago, in 🎧 episode 49, Alex Sims (Solutions Architect & Senior Software Engineer at James & James) shared with us his ambition to help migrate a monolithic PHP app running on AWS EC2 to a more modern architecture. The idea was some serverless, some EKS, and many incremental improvements. So how did all of this work out in practice? How did the improved system cope with the Black Friday peak, as well as all the following Christmas orders? Thank you Alex for sharing with us your Shi...
Red Hat's approach to SRE
December 08, 2022 19:15 - 1 hour - 62.3 MBNarayanan Raghavan leads the global SRE organization that runs Red Hat managed cloud services including OpenShift Dedicated, Azure Red Hat Openshift, Red Hat OpenShift Service on AWS, and Red Hat OpenShift Data Science among others across the three major cloud providers: AWS, GCP & Azure. We start with a high-level discussion about DevOps, SRE & platform engineering, and then we dig into SRE specifics, including what it takes to safely roll out updates across many tens of thousands of OpenShi...
Let's deploy straight to production!
December 01, 2022 17:15 - 1 hour - 61.9 MBIn today’s episode, we have the pleasure of two guests: Whitney Lee, Staff Technical Advocate at VMware, the one behind the ⚡️ Enlightning episodes, and Mauricio Salatino, which you already know from 🎧 shipit.show/41 on Continuous Delivery for Kubernetes. The two of them gave the most amazing KubeCon NA Keynote last month: What a RUSH! Let’s Deploy Straight to Production! So how do we create an Internal Development Platform that enables anyone on the team to deploy straight to production with...
Kaizen! 24 improvements & a lot more
November 23, 2022 16:45 - 1 hour - 63.3 MBFor our last 2022 Kaizen episode, we went all out: 💪 @jerod outdid himself in the number of improvements shipped between Kaizens 🕺 A few of our listeners contributed → prompted us to create a new contributing guide 🗺 We now have a new infrastructure diagram All of this, and a whole lot more, is captured as GitHub discussion 🐙 changelog.com#433. If you want to see everything that we improved, that is a great companion to this episode.
Developer Experience Infrastructure (DXI)
November 18, 2022 18:00 - 1 hour - 59.9 MBIn your company, who designs the end-to-end developer experience? From design to implementation, what is the developer experience that you actually ship? Even though the average developer wastes almost half of their working hours because of bad DX, many of us don’t even know what that means, or how to improve it. Kenneth Auchenberg is working at Stripe, building economic infrastructure for the internet. Gerhard found his perspective on Developer Experience Infrastructure (DXI) refreshingly si...
The system that runs Norway's welfare payments 🇳🇴
November 09, 2022 22:00 - 1 hour - 56.9 MBIn today’s episode we have the pleasure of Audun Fauchald Strand, Principal Software Engineer at NAV.no, Norway’s Labour & Welfare Administration. We will be talking about NAIS.io, the application platform that runs on-prem, as well as on the public cloud. Imagine hundreds of developers shipping on an average day 300 changes into a system which processes $100,000,000 worth of transactions on a quiet week. If you think this is hard, consider the context: a government institution which must com...
Seven shipping principles
November 03, 2022 13:30 - 58 minutes - 54.1 MB15 years ago, Gerhard discovered magic in the form of Ruby on Rails. It was intuitive and it just worked. That is the context in which Gerhard fell in love with infrastructure and operations. Today, for special episode 77, we start at Seven Shipping Principles, and, in the true spirit of Ship It, we’ll see what happens next. Our guest is David Heinemeier Hansson, creator of Ruby on Rails, co-founder of Basecamp & HEY, and a lot more - check out dhh.dk.
Container base images with glibc & musl
October 27, 2022 14:30 - 1 hour - 58.1 MBIn today’s episode, we talk about distroless, ko, apko, melange, musl and glibc. The context is Wolfi OS, a community Linux OS designed for the container and cloud-native era. If you are looking for the lightest possible container base image with 0 CVEs and both glibc and musl support, Wolfi OS & the related chainguard-images are worth checking out. Ariadne Conill is an Alpine Linux TSC member & Software Engineer at Chainguard.
How vex.dev runs on AWS, Fly.io & GCP
October 19, 2022 18:15 - 1 hour - 65.6 MBFew genuinely need a multi-cloud setup. There is plenty of advice out there which mostly boils down to don’t do it, you will be worse off. Vex.dev is a startup that provides APIs for video and audio streaming. The hard part is real-time combined with massive scale - think hundreds of thousands of concurrent connections. They achieve this by using a combination of Fly.io, AWS and GCP. Jason Carter, founder of Vex Communications, is joining us today to talk about the multi-cloud setup that vex....
Vorsprung durch Technik
October 12, 2022 21:20 - 1 hour - 66.6 MBI don’t think that you can imagine just how excited Gerhard was to find out that Audi, his favourite car company, has a Kubernetes competence centre. We have Sebastian Kister joining us today to tell us why people, followed by tech make the process. The right thing to focus on is the genuine smiles that people give in response to something we do or say. That is an important SLI & SLO for reducing friction between silos. How does this impact the flow of artefacts into production systems that d...
A modern bank infrastructure
October 06, 2022 14:40 - 1 hour - 73.5 MBMatias Pan is a Staff Software Engineer at Lemon Cash, a crypto startup based in Argentina. Lemon infrastructure runs digital wallets & physical cards, which technically makes them a bank. How does Matias & his team think about enabling developers get code from their workstations into production? Remember, we are talking about a bank - a bad deploy is a big deal. And when a bad database migration goes out, what happens then?
Klustered & Rawkode Academy
September 29, 2022 13:20 - 1 hour - 61.7 MBOne of our listeners, Andrew Welker, suggested that we talk about Klustered, so a few hours before David Flanagan was about to do his workshop at Container Days, we recorded this episode. We talked about all the weird and wonderful Kubernetes debugging sessions on Klustered, a YouTube playlist with 43 videos and counting. We then talked about Rawkode Academy, and we finished with conferences. Good thing we did, because David almost forgot about KubeHuddle, the conference that he is co-organis...
Modern Software Engineering
September 21, 2022 17:45 - 1 hour - 75.8 MBDave Farley, co-author of Continuous Delivery, is back to talk about his latest book, Modern Software Engineering, a Top 3 Software Engineering best seller on Amazon UK this September. Shipping good software starts with you giving yourself permission to do a good job. It continues with a healthy curiosity, admitting that you don’t know, and running many experiments, safely, without blowing everything up. And then there is scope creep…
Kaizen! Four PRs, one big feature
September 14, 2022 18:20 - 1 hour - 61.7 MBIn today’s Kaizen episode, we talk about shipping Adam’s Christmas present: chapter support for all Changelog episodes that we now publish. This feature was hard because there are many subtle differences in how the ID3 spec is implemented. Of course, once the PR shipped, there were other issues to solve, including an upgrade the world kind of scenario. Since Lars Wikman did all the heavy ID3 lifting, he joins us in this episode.
The cloud native ecosystem
September 08, 2022 14:00 - 1 hour - 70.1 MBMaybe it’s the Californian sun. Or perhaps it’s the time spent at Disney Studios, the home of the best stories. One thing is for sure: Taylor Dolezal is one of the happiest cloud native people that Gerhard knows. As a former Lead SRE for Disney Studios, Taylor has significant hands-on experience running cloud native technologies in a large company. After a few years as a HashiCorp Developer Advocate, Taylor is now Head of End User Ecosystem at CNCF. In his current role, he is helping enable c...
Behind the scenes at Microsoft Azure
August 31, 2022 21:15 - 1 hour - 67.2 MBMost of you already know what it’s like to work in a startup or a small company. A few of you have been asking us for conversations with engineers that work for big companies, the kind that run everything from big title games to banking, and even critical national infrastructure. In today’s episode, we talk to Ganeshkumar, a Software Engineer in the Azure Kubernetes Service team, who works on Node Lifecycle and Kubernetes Versioning, and Brendan, Kubernetes project co-founder and engineering ...
All your network are belong to eBPF
August 25, 2022 16:00 - 1 hour - 68.7 MBA few weeks ago, Jerod spoke with Liz Rice about the power of eBPF on The Changelog. Today, we have the pleasure of both Liz Rice, Chief Open Source Office at Isovalent & Thomas Graf, CTO & co-founder at Isovalent, the creators of Cilium. Around 2014, Facebook achieved a 10x performance improvement by replacing their traditional load balancers with eBPF. In 2017, every single packet that went to Facebook was processed by eBPF. Nowadays, every Android phone is using it. Truth be told, if it’s ...
Do the right thing. Do what works. Be kind.
August 18, 2022 13:45 - 1 hour - 62.9 MBWhy are the right values important for a company that changed the way the world builds software? How does pair programming help scale & maintain the company culture? What is it like to grow a company to 3000 employees over 30 years? Today we have the privilege of Rob Mee, former CEO of Pivotal, the real home of Cloud Foundry and Concourse CI. Rob is now the CEO of Geometer.io, an incubator where Elixir is behind many great ideas executed well, including the US COVID response programme.
Two thumbs up for the Cool Wall
August 10, 2022 17:15 - 1 hour - 74 MBTammer Saleh, founder of Super Orbital, a tiny team of exceptional Kubernetes engineers and teachers, is joining us today to talk about what is cool in the Cloud Native world. Yes, it’s the same Tammer that we had the pleasure of on shipit.show/31 - Is Kubernetes a platform? In today’s episode, we also cover two great blog posts: Zero to GitOps: Terraform and the AWS EKS Blueprints project by Sean Kane Hunting Down an Intermittent Failure in Cilium by James McShane We wrap up with ✨ The Coo...
Bass: the beat drop after Concourse
August 04, 2022 17:20 - 1 hour - 84.3 MBOur today’s guest spent 4 days building a feature for his side project so that we could ship it together on Ship It!, while recording. The feature is called rave mode, and the context is Bass, an interpreted functional scripting language written in Go, riffing on the ideas of Kernel & Clojure. When the local build runs, you can now press r to synchronise the beats of your currently playing Spotify track with the build output. For a demo, see bass v0.9.0 release. Please welcome Alex Suraci, a....
KubeVelo 2022
July 27, 2022 21:00 - 1 hour - 68.9 MBWe know that many of you listen to this podcast while running 🏃♀️ or cycling 🚴♂️ Hey Dan! How many of you cycled to a conference? Gerhard knows a single person that cycled 764 miles for 8 days straight from Switzerland to Spain for this year’s KubeCon EU. His name is Johann Gyger, a CNCF ambassador & a cloud consultant at Peak Scale. Johann is a cloud engineer at heart that is all in on sustainability. He is the main reason why Gerhard is super excited to talk about electric cars & Dagger a...
Operational simplicity is a gift to you
July 20, 2022 16:35 - 57 minutes - 53.4 MBGerhard’s transition to a senior engineer started 10 years ago, when he embraced the vim mindset, functional core & imperative shell, and was inspired to seek simplicity in his code & infrastructure. Most of it can be traced back to one person: Gary Bernhardt, the creator of Execute Program, Destroy all Software and the now famous Wat idea. Few stick around long enough to understand the long-term impact of their decisions on production systems. Even fewer are able to talk about them as well a...
The ops & infra behind Transistor.fm
July 13, 2022 22:20 - 1 hour - 63.9 MBToday we talk with two lovely folks from Transistor.fm: Jason Pearl, Senior Software Developer & Jon Buda, co-founder. Gerhard was curious to find out about their setup & how did it change with the launch of the new podcast website builder. After all, you have been hearing us talk about our setup for years, so it was high-time to challenge some assumptions and learn how another team is solving similar problems. TL;DL: keeping it simple is at the root of smooth operations & stable systems.
Kaizen! Post-migration cleanup
July 08, 2022 11:00 - 1 hour - 61.9 MBIn our 6th Kaizen, we talk with Jerod about all the things that we cleaned up after migrating changelog.com from a managed Kubernetes to Fly.io. We deleted the K8s cluster and moved wildcard cert management to Fastly & all our vanity domain certs to Fly.io. We migrated the Docker Engine that our GitHub Actions is using - PR #416 has all the details. We did a few other things in preparation for our secrets plan. Thank you Maikel Vlasman, James Harr, Adrian Mester, Omri Gabay & Owen Valentine f...
Postgres vs SQLite with Litestream
June 29, 2022 21:00 - 1 hour - 68 MBBen Johnson, the creator of Litestream, joined Fly.io a few weeks after we migrated changelog.com - episode 50 has all the details. That was pure coincidence. What was not a coincidence, is Gerhard jumping at the opportunity to talk to Ben about Postgres vs SQLite with Litestream. The prospect of running a cluster of our app instances spread across all regions, with local SQLite & Litestream replication, is mind boggling. Let’s find out from Ben what will it take to get there. Thanks Kürt fo...
How to keep a secret
June 22, 2022 20:20 - 1 hour - 67.8 MBRob Barnes (a.k.a. Devops Rob) and Rosemary Wang (author of Infrastructure as Code - Patterns & Practices) are joining us today to talk about infrastructure secrets. What do Rosemary and Rob think about committing encrypted secrets into a repository? How do they suggest that we improve on storing secrets in LastPass? And if we were to choose HashiCorp Vault, what do we need to know? Thank you Thomas Eckert for the intro. Thank you Nabeel Sulieman (ep. 46) & Kelsey Hightower (ep. 44) for your ...
What do oranges & flame graphs have in common?
June 17, 2022 18:45 - 1 hour - 59.9 MBToday we are talking with Frederic Branczyk, founder of Polar Signals & Prometheus maintainer. You may remember Frederic from episode 33 when we introduced Parca.dev. This time, we talk about a database built for observability: FrostDB, formerly known as ArcticDB. eBPF generates a lot of high cardinality data, which requires a new approach to writing, persisting & then reading back this state. TL;DR FrostDB is sub zero cool & well worthy of its name.
DevOps teams with shared responsibilities
June 08, 2022 17:30 - 58 minutes - 54 MBToday we are talking with Maikel Vlasman, technical lead for a large Dutch machine construction company, and a cloud engineer by heart. We cover self-updating GitLab & ArgoCD, Maikel’s thinking behind dev environment setup and a Kubernetes workshop that he is preparing for his team. The goal is to function as a true DevOps team with shared responsibilities. This conversation started as a thread in our community Slack - link in the show notes. Thank you Maikel for being a long-time Changelog l...
Optimising sociotechnical systems
June 02, 2022 15:00 - 1 hour - 95.5 MBToday we are talking how to optimise sociotechnical systems with Ben Ford, founder & CEO of Mission Control. The correct order is: people, process & technology. The tools are important, and we talk about specific ones in the second half of this episode, but there are rules and principles that govern how people interact, and we need to start there.
Knative, Sigstore & swag (KubeCon EU 2022)
May 25, 2022 15:00 - 48 minutes - 45 MBThis is the post-KubeCon CloudNativeCon EU 2022 week. Gerhard is talking to Matt Moore, founder & CTO of Chainguard about all things Knative and Sigstore. The most important topic is swag, because none has better stickers than Chainguard. The other topic is the equivalent of Let’s Encrypt for securing software.
Securing K8s releases (KubeCon EU 2022)
May 20, 2022 17:10 - 1 hour - 62.2 MBToday we are at KubeCon CloudNativeCon EU 2022, talking to Adolfo García Veytia about securing Kubernetes releases. Adolfo is a Staff Software Engineer at Chainguard, and one of the technical leads for SIG release, meaning that he helps ship Kubernetes. You most likely know him as Puerco, and have seen first-hand his passion for securing software via SBOMs, cosign and SLSA. Puerco’s love for bikes and Chainguard are a great match 🚴♂️
Priyanka's Happy Hour (KubeCon EU 2022)
May 11, 2022 15:30 - 39 minutes - 36.7 MBToday we talk to Priyanka Sharma (E.D. at the Cloud Native Computing Foundation) about all things KubeCon Europe 2022. We start with Gerhard’s favourite subject - Priyanka’s Happy Hour - and then we switch focus to the conference. For many, this will be the first in-person KubeCon since 2019. As for Gerhard, he is not sure that he remember how airports work. If he succeeds, he looks forward to meeting some of you in Valencia. If not, send help.
From Kubernetes to PaaS - now what?
May 04, 2022 15:45 - 58 minutes - 53.9 MBToday we talk to Mark Ericksen about all the things that we could be doing on the new platform - this is a follow-up to episode 50. Mark specialises in Elixir, he hosts the Thinking Elixir podcast, and he also helps make Fly.io the best place to run Phoenix apps, such as changelog.com. In the interest of holding our new platform right, we thought that it would be a great idea to talk to someone that does this all day, every day, for many years now. We touch up on how to run database migration...