In the shadow of COP26 Scotland prepares to host the world as we agree common targets and policies to combat climate change, equally important is the biodiversity crisis. In episode seventeen of the Thrill of the Hill series the Alex Pirie from the Farm Advisory Service (FAS) talks to Nature Friendly Farming Network coordinator, Phil Knott about how Scotland is addressing biodiversity decline, the need for a conservation calculator and the effectiveness of the Agri-Environment Climate Scheme (AECS). Also up for discussion is crofting’s contribution to biodiversity enhancement and our hopes for a future potential outcomes based environmental scheme.