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Danusia reflects on the only episode she didn’t publish and the reasons why. Join her in celebrating, and closing out the last episode of the pod – and hear about what’s in store in the next chapter. In this episode you’ll hear:

> What happened when Danusia made a tiny list of guests she didn’t want on the pod - and how Katie Hopkins (no.1 slot)  became her guest;

> How the Katie Hopkins interview went and why it sat unpublished on Danusia’s podcast shelf for so long;

> Moments from this interview that left Danusia agitated - including how this sharpened her need to review who gets voice;

> How Danusia ‘drawing lines’ on what can and cannot be said and what gets to be made public impacted her thinking;

> Why the distinction Danusia explores between freedom of speech and safety for women and marginalised people, is crucial;

> Why hearing from people with different views has nothing to do with seeking agreement - and how this matters for our children;

> How this process sparked the future of the pod.

“I love School for Mothers, it’s an injection of badass”

Danusia reflects on the only episode she didn’t publish and the reasons why. Join her in celebrating, and closing out the last episode of the pod – and hear about what’s in store in the next chapter. In this episode you’ll hear:

> What happened when Danusia made a tiny list of guests she didn’t want on the pod - and how Katie Hopkins (no.1 slot)  became her guest;

> How the Katie Hopkins interview went and why it sat unpublished on Danusia’s podcast shelf for so long;

> Moments from this interview that left Danusia agitated - including how this sharpened her need to review who gets voice;

> How Danusia ‘drawing lines’ on what can and cannot be said and what gets to be made public impacted her thinking;

> Why the distinction Danusia explores between freedom of speech and safety for women and marginalised people, is crucial;

> Why hearing from people with different views has nothing to do with seeking agreement - and how this matters for our children;

> How this process sparked the future of the pod.

“I love School for Mothers, it’s an injection of badass”