HOLDING DOWN THE MANAFORT with CHARLOTTE CLYMER

Well, shucks! We've crossed the Rubicon from Thanksgiving into the holiday period. Did everyone have a good Thanksgiving? The President did! He had a totally normal time with checks notes a salad bar and "barbed wire plus."

Dan and Maureen have scoured the news this week, looking for clues in the perpetual case of What The Hell Is Happening Now. And it seems like something? May? Be? Happening? It is hard to say. But it looks like Paula Manafort might have been doing some lying? You are shocked, we know. "Not MY Paul Manafort," you said, aghast.

To bring clarity and light, Dan and Maureen talk to Charlotte Clymer, Press Secretary for Rapid Response at the Human Rights Campaign and general wonder. Charlotte is also a veteran, and she has a lot to say about Trump's relationship with the military. She also talks about how to be an ally to your trans friends, and how to celebrate your authentic self.

As opposed to your lying self who lies. So many lies, SaysWhovia. So many lies are happening.

Grab a mug of hot chocolate and something from the salad bar. It's time to break it all down.

SHOW NOTES:

Follow Charlotte Clymer on Twitter.

You can read Charlotte's piece about how fashion helped her find authentic self here.

More of Charlotte's articles can be found on the HRC website here

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