Saturday Morning with Jack Tame
3,666 episodes - English - Latest episode: 3 months ago - ★★★★★ - 1 ratingJack Tame’s crisp perspective, style and enthusiasm makes for refreshing and entertaining Saturday morning radio on Newstalk ZB.
News, sport, books, music, gardens and celebrities – what better way to spend your Saturdays?
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Francesca Rudkin: Spiderman: Across the Spider-Verse and Bank of Dave
June 02, 2023 22:10 - 6 minutes - 5.53 MBSpiderman: Across the Spider-Verse After reuniting with Gwen Stacy, Brooklyn's full-time, friendly neighborhood Spider-Man is catapulted across the Multiverse, where he encounters a team of Spider-People charged with protecting its very existence. However, when the heroes clash on how to handle a new threat, Miles finds himself pitted against the other Spiders. He must soon redefine what it means to be a hero so he can save the people he loves most. Bank of Dave A working class man ...
Kevin Milne: How we should celebrate Everest Day
June 02, 2023 22:05 - 6 minutes - 5.54 MBThis week Kevin’s here to chat about Everest Day and throw his support behind an idea of how to celebrate it. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mike Yardley: Halong Bay, Vietnam
May 27, 2023 00:34 - 8 minutes - 7.81 MBThis week Mike Yardley joined Jack to chat about his recent visit to the beautiful Halong Bay in Vietnam. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Estelle Clifford: Lewis Capaldi - Broken By Desire To Be Heavenly Sent
May 27, 2023 00:15 - 5 minutes - 5.48 MBBeating out Ed Sheeran, Lewis Capaldi's second album 'Broken By Desire To Be Heavenly Sent' is the fastest selling album of the year thus far. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Catherine Raynes: The Wager and The Making of Another Major Motion Picture Masterpiece
May 27, 2023 00:10 - 5 minutes - 4.63 MBThe Wager, David Grann On January 28, 1742, a ramshackle vessel of patched-together wood and cloth washed up on the coast of Brazil. Inside were thirty emaciated men, barely alive, and they had an extraordinary tale to tell. They were survivors of His Majesty’s Ship the Wager, a British vessel that had left England in 1740 on a secret mission during an imperial war with Spain. While the Wager had been chasing a Spanish treasure-filled galleon known as “the prize of all the oceans,” it had ...
Kate 'Ethically Kate' Hall: Temu and the waste caused by online shopping
May 27, 2023 00:08 - 7 minutes - 7.04 MBTemu has been covering the internet in advertising over the past couple months, and the app has been topping free app charts on a regular basis. Kate Hall, an expert in sustainability has a few thoughts on the app, and on online shopping in general. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Ruud Kleinpaste: Bags of Silks
May 26, 2023 23:41 - 4 minutes - 4.15 MBOne of the most incredible endemic insects in the collective New Zealand garden flies largely under the radar, yet it is as common as muck and lives for most of its life in a silk sleeping bag. Liothula omnivora is known in the trade as the “bag moth” or “case moth”. Tiny, baby caterpillars spin themselves a small silken case in which they incorporate pieces of foliage, twigs, mosses or lichens, to either jazz it up a bit, or – if you are a boring entomologist – for camouflage. This Cater...
Paul Stenhouse: WhatsApp will let you edit messages, Elon Musk's brain chip Neuralink
May 26, 2023 22:57 - 3 minutes - 3.62 MBWhatsApp will now let you edit your messages There are some restrictions though - it has to be done in the first 15 minutes of sending it. It can only be edited once. It'll show as edited, but won't have a way to see the previous message. So good news, if you edit it before your recipient reads it, they'll never know what you said originally. To do it, long press on the message and select edit. Neuralink: Elon Musk's brain chip firm wins US approval for human study Elon Musk's br...
Tara Ward: The Clearing, Platonic, Merpeople
May 26, 2023 22:52 - 4 minutes - 4.49 MBThe Clearing: Miranda Otto and Guy Pearce star in this adaptation of J.P. Pomare’s book about a woman who must confront the secrets of her past to prevent a local cult from brainwashing members of her community (Disney+) Platonic: A screwball comedy starring Seth Rogan and Rose Byrne as platonic best friends who reconnect after a long rift, only for their friendship to become all-consuming in their lives (Apple TV+) Merpeople: A new documentary series about the whimsical world of ...
Shaun Wallace: The Chase and NZ Tour
May 26, 2023 22:38 - 14 minutes - 13 MBShaun Wallace, the Dark Destroyer, is a man with a big brain and a lot of knowledge. The Londoner shot to fame when he won the BBC’s legendary Mastermind in 2004, and is one of television’s most beloved Chasers. But he’s not only a quiz champion, Shaun’s also a successful barrister and has been a criminal defence advocate for more than three decades. Shaun joined Jack this morning ahead the events he’s hosting all over New Zealand over the next week. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/...
Nici Wickes: Caramel apple sultana & spice cake
May 26, 2023 22:00 - 4 minutes - 4.38 MBCelebrate the apple season with this absolutely gorgeous apple cake. It’s full of warming spices and with a golden caramel topping, it’s a winner. Ingredients: 85g (about 6 tbsps) butter ½ cup sweetened condensed milk 1 tsp vanilla extract ¼ tsp cinnamon 2 medium apples, peeled and sliced thinly Cake batter 120g butter, softened ¾ cup sugar 2 large eggs 1 ½ cups plain flour 1 ½ tsps baking powder ½ tsp baking soda 2 tsps ground cinnamon ½ tsp nutmeg Decent pin...
Francesca Rudkin: The Innocent, Deep Rising
May 26, 2023 21:56 - 6 minutes - 6.44 MBThe Innocent - Cannes International Film Festival 2022 Familial tensions, criminal hijinks and unexpected romance collide in the uproariously entertaining new comedy hit from the multi-talented Louis Garrel (A Faithful Man). Lyon, present day. When widowed marine biologist Abel (Garrel) learns that his impulsive mother Sylvie (Anouk Grinberg) is once again re-marrying – this time to an inmate she met whilst teaching theatre in prison – he’s more than uncomfortable. Doubting that convicted ...
Kevin Milne: Remembering Tina Turner
May 26, 2023 21:42 - 6 minutes - 6.28 MBThis week Kevin wants to remember Tina Turner, going right back to the first time he saw her perform as Ike & Tina Turner and the Ikettes. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Jack Tame: It's no longer a personal cause
May 26, 2023 21:20 - 4 minutes - 3.77 MBIt took Sanitarium an awfully long time to finally dedicate a series of its Weetbix collector cards to the World Cup-winning Black Ferns. My colleagues at Fair Go covered it in depth, and when it was finally announced that Weetbix would publish a Black Ferns series, most of us assumed that would be that. But a fascinating story in the Herald revealed the best-known women’s rugby player in the World will not be appearing in the trading card series, becuase Ruby Tui insisted on appearing on t...
Estelle Clifford: Music - The National, 'First Two Pages of Frankenstein'
May 20, 2023 00:25 - 7 minutes - 6.49 MBAnchored by evocative melodies and an enthralling lyrical narrative, First Two Pages of Frankenstein signals a thrilling new chapter in the band’s discography. The 11-song album was produced by The National at Long Pond Studios in upstate New York and features guest appearances by Taylor Swift, Phoebe Bridgers and Sufjan Stevens. The follow-up to 2019’s top five hit album I Am Easy To Find, First Two Pages of Frankenstein was initially stalled while lead singer Matt Berninger navigated “a ...
Catherine Raynes: Books - The Diamond Eye and The House of Eve
May 20, 2023 00:12 - 5 minutes - 4.82 MBThe Diamond Eye – Kate Quinn The brand-new historical novel based on a true story from the bestselling author of The Rose Code and The Alice Network In the snowbound city of Kiev, aspiring historian Mila Pavlichenko’s life revolves around her young son – until Hitler’s invasion of Russia changes everything. Suddenly, she and her friends must take up arms to save their country from the Fuhrer’s destruction. Handed a rifle, Mila discovers a gift – and months of blood, sweat and tears tur...
Mike Yardley: Bites and Sights in Hanoi
May 19, 2023 23:52 - 10 minutes - 9.23 MBMike Yardley joined Jack Tame to chat about his time in Hanoi, Vietnam. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Steven Dromgool: Relationship expert on how to support a partner with chronic illness
May 19, 2023 23:42 - 5 minutes - 5.18 MBRelationship expert Steven Dromgool has some advice for us around supporting a partner that suffers from a chronic illness. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Bob Campbell: Wine - 2022 Framingham Classic Riesling, Marlborough
May 19, 2023 23:35 - 2 minutes - 2.66 MBWine: 2022 Framingham Classic Riesling, Marlborough $31.99 Why I chose it: - I love Riesling - Riesling is the best value NZ wine - Framingham is one of the country’s top Riesling producers What does it taste like? - Medium-dry riesling with lime zest, oyster shell and white wildflower flavours supported by vibrant acidity that reacts with a suggestion of sweetness to give a deliciously vibrant character. Good purity and power. Why it’s a bargain: - One of the world’s great g...
Ruud Kleinpaste: Planting time for trees and crops
May 19, 2023 23:22 - 5 minutes - 5.21 MBWe had a great autumn… quite warm! – getting cooler now Some fruit trees are still producing fruits: All you need is relatively warm autumn conditions for ripening to be successful. Feijoas and figs and some apple varieties Feijoas: select you favourite variety; they are all more or less similar when it comes to resistance of frosts, so chose what you like. Feijoas are still dropping at my place (don’t “pick” them, let them drop!!!) Many varieties to plant in autumn – they are pretty har...
Paul Stenhouse: Tech - Apple's new accessibility features and Montana's TikTok ban
May 19, 2023 23:00 - 3 minutes - 3.26 MBCreate a digital copy of your voice in just 15 minutes Apple's soon-to-be-released feature "Personal Voice" is designed for people who may be going to lose their voice, to be able to capture it digitally, and use it to communicate with others when they can't - Apple is calling it your "synthesized voice". It's open to everyone though, hinting at what may become more commonplace in the near future. Your digital avatar could actually sound like you, and read out the things you've typed. It t...
Jason Momoa: 'Fast X' star on playing the bad guy and his ‘unexplainable’ connection to New Zealand
May 19, 2023 22:45 - 5 minutes - 5.04 MBHollywood sensation Jason Momoa secured his famous feature as Khal Drogo in HBO’s Game of Thrones by performing a haka before assuming his blockbuster role as DC’s Aquaman in Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice that shot him into superstardom. Momoa has been cast in the tenth instalment of the Fast and Furious franchise, Fast X as bad guy Dante Reyes, somewhat of a juxtaposition from previous roles. There is, of course, a Kiwi connection. Momoa told Newstalk ZB’s Jack Tame he feels Native ...
Tara Ward: Screentime - Still, The Gone and Tracked
May 19, 2023 22:36 - 4 minutes - 4.44 MBStill: A documentary about the extraordinary story of Michael J. Fox, in his own words - from his childhood on a Canadian army base to the heights of stardom in 1980s Hollywood and the private challenges of living with Parkinson’s Disease (AppleTV+). The Gone: An Irish-New Zealand drama about a young Irish couple that vanishes from a small North Island town, and the Irish and Kiwi detectives that must team up to find them (TVNZ+). Tracked: Hosted by Vinnie Jones and filmed in New Zealand...
Eleanor Catton: Youngest-ever Booker Prize winner on her new book 'Birnam Wood'
May 19, 2023 22:32 - 14 minutes - 13.2 MBIn 2013, our very own Eleanor Catton became the youngest-ever winner of the Booker Prize at 28-years-old with The Luminaires. In the decade since, she adapted the book for television, wrote the feature film screenplay for Jane Austen’s Emma, moved to the UK and had a child. And now, a decade on, she’s back with her new book Birnam Wood. Eleanor’s currently in New Zealand for the Auckland Writer’s Festival and she joined Jack Tame. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for pr...
Rosa Flannagan: Feijoa Maple Oats
May 19, 2023 22:06 - 4 minutes - 4.37 MBEveryone in the kitchen was fighting over the last spoonful of porridge when we first created this. If you need recipe inspiration for feijoas, definitely put this one on the list. When feijoas are out of season, use any other in-season fruit you have at home. Serves: 1 Time: 10 minutes - 1/2 cup rolled oats - 3/4 cup plant based or dairy milk - 1/2 cup feijoas, flesh only and roughly chopped - 1 tbsp almond butter - 1 tbsp maple syrup - 1 tsp vanilla bean paste or extr...
Francesca Rudkin: Film - A Good Person and The Mother
May 19, 2023 21:59 - 6 minutes - 5.93 MBA Good Person (cinema) Allison is a young woman with a wonderful fiance, a blossoming career, and supportive family and friends. However, her world crumbles in the blink of an eye when she survives an unimaginable tragedy, emerging from recovery with an opioid addiction and unresolved grief. In the following years, she forms an unlikely friendship with her would-be father-in-law that gives her a fighting chance to put her life back together and move forward. Starring woman of the moment, F...
Kevin Milne: Wanting to talk wealth tax
May 19, 2023 21:37 - 8 minutes - 7.76 MBKevin Milne feels it's becoming inevitable that a wealth tax will be introduced here in New Zealand. He says he'd like to involve Jack Tame in a discussion around this this because he know Tame will have a view. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Jack Tame: I don’t know what is about movie stars, but I just can’t help myself
May 19, 2023 21:28 - 4 minutes - 3.87 MBI don’t know what is about movie stars, but every time I meet one, I just can’t help myself. It was always a terrible problem when I lived in the U.S. I’d go to a movie publicity event – known in the news business as a junket – and after waiting patiently for an hour or two for my four minutes with Russell Crowe or Hugh Jackman or Jennifer Lawrence, I’d go into the room for interview number fifty-six of the day, right after Polish morning TV and Slovenian Red Carpet Reports, and I’d flirt. ...
Catherine Raynes: Books - Small Mercies and The Future of Geography
May 13, 2023 00:14 - 5 minutes - 5.3 MBSmall Mercies, Dennis Lehane The acclaimed New York Times bestselling writer returns with a masterpiece to rival Mystic River—an all-consuming tale of revenge, family love, festering hate, and insidious power, set against one of the most tumultuous episodes in Boston’s history. In the summer of 1974 a heatwave blankets Boston and Mary Pat Fennessy is trying to stay one step ahead of the bill collectors. Mary Pat has lived her entire life in the housing projects of “Southie,” the Irish Am...
Mike Yardley: Temple touring in Angkor
May 13, 2023 00:03 - 12 minutes - 11.2 MBMike Yardley has been touring Cambodia and is once again the envy of us all. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Kate Hall: A sustainable Mother's Day
May 12, 2023 23:50 - 4 minutes - 4.29 MBKate 'Ethically Kate' Hall has some tips for a more sustainable Mother's Day this year. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Ruud Kleinpaste: A fungal lesson in sustainable design
May 12, 2023 23:39 - 5 minutes - 4.72 MBMany gardeners and observant nature nerds report seeing weird, white, slimy structures lying on the forest floor and on top of the mulch in gardens Basket fungi are large spherical football-like structures that carry the spores of the fungus: it’s the brown smudgy stuff on the white, rubbery polygons. Those spores smell quite putrid and attract all kinds of flies that lap up the moisture – it’s probably full of proteins; nutrients! The spores stick to their feet and as they land in the fo...
Hannah McQueen: Residential or commercial property investment?
May 12, 2023 23:24 - 4 minutes - 4.48 MBAs a lot of rules have changed or tightened up and made residential property investment a slightly different prospect, more and more people are asking whether they should instead consider commercial investment property. There’s a lot to weigh up, so I thought it could be an interesting discussion to have – what are the pros, cons, things you might not realise, things you need to consider, lending arrangements, potential yield and capital gain and how does it compare? LISTEN ABOVE See o...
Paul Stenhouse: Tech - Google's big news
May 12, 2023 23:15 - 4 minutes - 4.25 MBIt's Google's big event of the year, where they announced a new Pixel Tablet transforms into a Smart Home display If you're looking to buy an Android Tablet, this could be the way to go. It's a fully functioning tablet, then when placed on the dock transforms into showing your photos, being an assistant, telling you what's next on your calendar. You can Chromecast to it, allowing you to use it almost like a mini-TV. The only downside is that if someone wonders off with the tablet, then you...
Tara Ward: Screentime - Silo, A Small Light and Louis Theroux Interviews
May 12, 2023 22:58 - 5 minutes - 5.37 MBSilo: A dystopian drama set in a future where society exists hundreds of stories deep underground, and where men and women must obey a series of regulations designed to protect them from the outside world (Apple TV+). A Small Light: A historical drama that follows the life of Miep Gies, who helped Anne Frank and her family hide during World War 2. You may know the story of Anne Frank, but this tells the story of what happened on the other side of the bookcase (Disney+). Louis Theroux Inter...
Ronald Gladden: 'Jury Duty' star on living through a real version of the 'Truman Show'
May 12, 2023 22:42 - 13 minutes - 12.8 MBImagine if your life suddenly became a real version of the Truman Show. It’s happened to Ronald Gladden, a 30-year-old man who thought he was a juror in a US court case that was being filmed for a documentary called Jury Duty. It slowly becomes a courtroom full of chaos. But what Ronald doesn’t know is that everyone is an actor, including the actor James Marsden acting as himself. Ronald’s now become an internet sensation and has been dubbed the nice guy of Jury Duty after his good n...
Nici Wickes: Ways to get inspired to break out of the same old dinner repertoire
May 12, 2023 22:05 - 6 minutes - 6.25 MBHere's my top 5 sources of inspiration: - The ingredients in my house - The ingredients in the stores - Eating out - it doesn't have to be expensive; I had a $13 roti canai in Hamilton at a little Malaysian place last week and it's put me on the road to spiciness all week with soups, curries and stir fries all being whipped up in my kitchen - Viewing - my top 5 places for getting inspired: Jamie One Pan Wonders Sat night TVNZ ONE - FREE, Toscana - Netflix, Chef's Table Pizza series Ne...
Francesca Rudkin: Film - Close and Ghosted
May 12, 2023 21:47 - 6 minutes - 5.53 MBClose The 13-year-old boys Léo and Rémis have a close friendship at school and in the flower fields where they and their parents pick the harvest for home. When schoolmates shoot a wedge into the relationship, the consequences are fatal. Ghosted (Apple TV) Salt-of-the-earth Cole falls head over heels for enigmatic Sadie — but then makes the shocking discovery that she’s a secret agent. Before they can decide on a second date, Cole and Sadie are swept away on an international adventure...
Kevin Milne: Let's talk mothers
May 12, 2023 21:41 - 5 minutes - 5.36 MBKevin Milne would like to talk about mothers, how he adores them, even if occasionally they embarrass you. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Jack Tame: Mum likes Auckland, Dad, it’s fair to say, does not
May 12, 2023 21:23 - 4 minutes - 4.1 MBI’d been planning to take them to a fancy new restaurant. There were some walks out west I thought would be lovely. Mum quite likes Auckland. Dad, it’s fair to say, does not. But when they arrived in the ‘09 together for the first time in a couple of years, they both had the same thing at the very top of the priority list. They wanted to see my new home. I slipped the key in the front door and before I’d even pushed it open, Mum was gushing. “Oh, Darling,” she said. “It’s beautiful.” “...
Estelle Clifford: Ed Sheeran - Subtract
May 06, 2023 01:18 - 6 minutes - 5.91 MBAlbum: Subtract Wife’s illness, plagiarism court case and death of music entrepreneur friend Jamal Edwards all came to bear on Sheeran’s sixth studio album, made with the National’s Aaron Dessner. The fifth and final entry in his series of albums titled with mathematical symbols, Sheeran wrote and recorded its 14 tracks with Aaron Dessner, a member of US alt-rock band the National who also had a major creative role in Taylor Swift’s Folklore and Evermore. It is billed as a return to ...
Catherine Raynes: Death of a Bookseller and Le Bron James
May 06, 2023 01:15 - 4 minutes - 4.29 MBDeath of a Bookseller, Alice Slater In this "utterly unforgettable" debut (Catherine Ryan Howard), a disaffected, true crime-obsessed bookseller develops a dangerous obsession with a colleague. Roach would rather be listening to the latest episode of her favorite true crime podcast than assisting the boring and predictable customers at her local branch of the bookstore Spines, where she’s worked her entire adult life. A serious true crime junkie, Roach looks down her nose at the pumpkin-...
Steven Dromgool: How to support your partner with postpartum depression
May 06, 2023 01:13 - 6 minutes - 6.35 MBHow do you support a partner with postpartum depression? Your partner's needs can feel overwhelming, so how do you manage? What do you need to avoid? How do you manage your stress? LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mike Yardley: Sights and bites in Siem Reap, Cambodia
May 06, 2023 01:05 - 11 minutes - 10.7 MBThis week Mike Yardley joined Jack Tame to chat about Siem Reap in Cambodia. To read Mike's full article, click here. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Ruud Kleinpaste: Guava Moths on Feijoas
May 06, 2023 00:21 - 3 minutes - 3.57 MBA major problem up north is the Guava moth (Coscinoptycha improbana), found in Northland, Auckland, Waikato, and Coromandel. Hosts of this caterpillar are Guava, Feijoa, loquats, peaches, citrus, quinces, macadamia, apples, and pears; quite non-selective in its preferences. In Northland (wild) loquats are the fruit that hosts the caterpillars in late winter/spring, allowing the population to build up. People are now harvesting feijoas that have tiny entrance/exit holes in the fruit, allow...
Bryan Betty: Vitamin D deficiency
May 06, 2023 00:14 - 4 minutes - 4.37 MBDr Bryan Betty joined Jack Tame to have a chat about vitamin D and vitamin D deficiency; the symptoms, the consequences, and how to mitigate it. LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Paul Stenhouse: Screenwriters are fighting to keep AI from taking their jobs
May 05, 2023 23:59 - 4 minutes - 4.31 MBScreenwriters are fighting to keep AI from taking their jobs After negotiations stalled, the writers went on strike on Tuesday, halting productions. As well as wanting more royalties from streaming services, changes to minimum durations of work and more, there is a concern about how the advances in AI will impact their jobs going forward - especially as studios and networks look to save money. The Guild wants AI to stay as far away from their work as possible, effectively banning AI from...
Sid Sahrawat: Cooking and Cassia
May 05, 2023 23:35 - 16 minutes - 15 MBSid Sahrawat is a pioneer of fine dining in New Zealand. With a focus on locally sourced ingredients, his take on cooking has won him a variety of awards. His wife is his business partner, and between the two of them they opened Sidart, Sid at the French Café, and the innovative Cassia. After years of disruption due to the pandemic and this year’s floods, they’re finally reopening Cassia in SkyCity. Sid joined Jack Tame to chat about cooking and the reopening of the restaurant. LISTEN ...
Nici Wickes: Coronation quiche my way
May 05, 2023 23:12 - 5 minutes - 5.26 MBNot quite the coronation quiche, but better I think, with gently softened onions and smoky bacon. Ingredients: 1-2 sheets good quality shortcrust pastry – I use Paneton Filling: 1 medium onion, diced fine 2 rashers bacon, diced 1 tsp butter ¼ cup milk ¾ cup cream 3 eggs, beaten lightly 1 tsp dried tarragon About 1 cup grated gouda or cheddar cheese Salt & pepper Method: Preheat oven to 200 C and place an oven tray to heat. Roll out pastry and use to line a 20cm fl...
Francesca Rudkin: Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 and Ghosted
May 05, 2023 23:00 - 4 minutes - 4.47 MBGuardians of the Galaxy vol 3. Still reeling from the loss of Gamora, Peter Quill must rally his team to defend the universe and protect one of their own. If the mission is not completely successful, it could possibly lead to the end of the Guardians as we know them. Ghosted (Apple TV) Ghosted is a 2023 American romantic action-adventure comedy which stars Chris Evans and Ana de Armas. alt-of-the-earth Cole falls head over heels for enigmatic Sadie — but then makes the shocking d...