"I was driving home one day and there's this same intersection that I get to every day. And one day I thought, should I creep out into this intersection while someone comes around the corner so they can take me out. That's when I knew I needed help!" 


The hope of being taken out someway is all too common in our wildland fire community but most of us don't have the courage to talk about it. 


Roger is a Helitack Superintendent in R5 and a participant in the most recent Wildland Wellness Foundation retreat. Roger speaks about what brought him to plant medicine. The miracle of how he found the foundation and the massive transformation he experienced in Mexico.


If you are thinking about a retreat with the Foundation. You need to listen to this episode. We talk about his Kambo experience, the kaleidoscoping puzzles of Yopo, and how he watched me turn into a tree.


We talk about the supporters, the welcoming ceremony, how he felt safe and supported through his entire journey. But most of all we talk about how powerful it is just to be a human and how his true lesson after finding his heart was learning to BE HERE. Be in the moment and express love for life.


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