Rune Soup
341 episodes - English - Latest episode: about 1 month ago - ★★★★★ - 738 ratingsRune Soup is a podcast channel that platforms the most important discussions at the cutting edge of magic, animism and spirit work.
Gordon is chaos magician, shamanic practitioner, podcaster, author and permaculture designer with a background in data and analytics gained at some of the world's largest media companies. He is the author of four books on magic, animism and star lore: Star.Ships: A Prehistory of the Spirits, The Chaos Protocols, Pieces of Eight and Ani.Mystic: Encounters With A Living Cosmos.
When not travelling, Gordon hosts his weekly show, Rune Soup, from a small permaculture farm in southern Tasmania.
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Episodes
Talking Exorcism|Dr Francis Young
August 30, 2017 21:10 - 1 hour - 55.2 MBThis week we are speaking with Dr Francis Young. Dr Young is an historian, author and translator, hailing from and with a particular interest in East Anglia. He joins us today to speak principally about the history of exorcism and his book, A History of Exorcism in Catholic Christianity. Good stuff. Show Notes Dr Young's website Francis on Twitter A History of Exorcism in Catholic Christianity The Cambridge Book of Magic
Double-Talking Solomonic Grimoires | Dr Al Cummins & Julio Ody
August 23, 2017 21:23 - 1 hour - 82.6 MBThis week we are debuting a sporadic new show format. For the 'Double Talking' episodes we bring back two prior guests for a three headed discussion about various shared topics. First cabs off the rank are Dr Al Cummins and Julio Ody and the topic is all things practically grimoiric. Right here. This is my jam. Show Notes Dr Al's website and blog Al on Twitter Julio's blog Julio on Twitter
Talking Magical Thinking | Lionel Snell (Ramsey Dukes)
August 17, 2017 00:19 - 1 hour - 65 MBThis week sees the return of one of the show's most popular guests, Lionel Snell aka Ramsey Dukes. Lionel joins us to discuss his most recent book, My Year of Magical Thinking, as well as various magical ways of being in the world and their benefits. Amazing stuff. Show Notes My Year of Magical Thinking Lionel's Website Lionel's YouTube Channel
Talking Death and Glamour | Deborah Castellano
August 09, 2017 22:23 - 1 hour - 59.5 MBThis week we are speaking with my good friend, Deborah Castellano. Deb is a fiction writer, blogger, witch, weaver and author of Glamour Magic which -if you’re listening to the show on podcast Thursday- was released yesterday. We talk ritual, death customs, learning magic by doing magic and -of course- glamour in the twenty first century. Show Notes Deb's brand new book, Glamour Magic Deb site and blog Deb on Twitter.
Talking Fortune Telling | Camelia Elias
August 02, 2017 23:34 - 1 hour - 80.8 MBThis week we are speaking to Dr Camelia Elias. Originally from Romania and based in Denmark, Camelia is a firebrand fortune teller, tarot teacher and author of several books. She is the writer behind the popular Tarotflexions blog and joins us today from a mountain in Norway. We discuss growing up around cartomancers, the best headspace for divination and how to read like the Devil. Show Notes Taroflexions Camelia's YouTube channel Camelia's website The Oracle Travels Light ...
Talking Chaos Magic and Breathwork | Dave Lee
July 27, 2017 00:32 - 1 hour - 70.1 MBThis week we are speaking with the one and only Dave Lee. Dave is an author, novelist, breath working and personal development coach based in the UK. He is also one of the formational influences on the rise of chaos magic. Dave has himself been a practising magic for over thirty five years. His latest book is Life Force and it arrived just in time to line up with our sporadic series of energy model discussions. We also talk LSD, meta-models, chaos magic history and personal metaphysic...
Talking Energetics and Destiny | Phillip J. Watt
July 20, 2017 20:55 - 1 hour - 76.4 MBThis week we will begin something of a sporadic miniseries on energy. A number of premium members have remarked that I’m typically pretty down on energy models. And I suppose I am, but with the qualification that I am pretty down on the prevailing energy models we have inherited from the 19th century with very little subsequent criticism. Freed from these unexamined assumptions, 'energy' in the broadest sense is an inarguable component of worldwide magical systems. In many ways, this may...
Talking about Talking | Gordon White
July 13, 2017 19:08 - 34 minutes - 31.3 MBThis week, we're trying something new. I'm dancing talking with myself about discourse, analogue networks and the whole point of speaking and listening on magical and psi topics. The show is also my meandering post-analysis of Chaotic Good -the event I participated in with Conner Habib and Caitlin Doughty in Los Angeles last week.
Talking Thai Occult Tattooing | Jenx
July 06, 2017 20:47 - 1 hour - 59.4 MBThis week, our man in Thailand returns to talk us through the world of Sak Yant. Now, today’s episode is going to be a little different. In between recording it and releasing it, Jenx has had to pulp every remaining copy of the book we’re discussing. There’s no real point in talking about the why but it has nothing to do with what’s between its covers, so to speak. As a result, Jenx is keen to have the content come out in other formats, which includes this podcast. Some of it will be sh...
Talking The Trickster and the Paranormal | George P. Hansen
June 29, 2017 00:17 - 1 hour - 60.4 MBThis week we are speaking to the one and only George P Hansen. As most of you probably know, George is a parapsychologist, researcher and author of the much admired psi classic, The Trickster and the Paranormal. Great stuff. Show Notes George's Trickster website George on Academia George on Twitter
Talking Ayahuasca | Dr Beatriz Labate
June 22, 2017 00:09 - 1 hour - 72.6 MBThis week we are speaking to Dr Beatriz Labate. Bia is an anthropologist and author or editor of dozens of books and academic papers on psychedelics. She is one of the world’s leading experts on ayahuasca culture and indigeneity. I have been trying to get our calendars to line up for most of this year so I was very much looking forward to our conversation. Enjoy! Show Notes Bia's website Bia on Twitter Chacruna Kahpi
Talking Haunted Objects | Dana Matthews and Greg Newkirk
June 14, 2017 22:15 - 1 hour - 70.1 MBThis week we are speaking to ghosthunting's most dynamic duo, Dana Matthews and Greg Newkirk. Greg and Dana have almost four decades combined experience into paranormal investigation and are the proprietors of the world’s only travelling museum of the paranormal and the occult. Goooooood times. Show Notes The Travelling Museum of the Paranormal and the Occult Planet Weird Dana on Twitter Greg on Twitter
Talking Astrology for H2 2017 | Austin Coppock
June 07, 2017 21:19 - 1 hour - 81.3 MBHe's back, ladies and gentlemen! Austin Coppock returns for our biannual look at what the stars have in store for us for the remainder of 2017 and into 2018. Show Notes Austin's website and blog Austin on Facebook Austin on Twiter Three Hands Press
Talking Alien Covenant | Christopher Knowles
May 31, 2017 00:58 - 1 hour - 91.5 MBThis week the singular polymath behind The Secret Sun -Christopher Knowles- returns to the show to review and dissect Ridley Scott's Alien Covenant. Naturally that means the show contains quite a few spoilers if you have yet to catch the film. Although I would point out it is actually very difficult to spoil the plot of an Alien film: Humans encounter xenomorphs Most of them are gruesomely killed by xenomorphs A couple of them escape by the skin of their teeth No one turns out to be...
Talking Hellenistic Astrology | Chris Brennan
May 24, 2017 06:30 - 1 hour - 63.8 MBThis week we speak to professional astrologer, educator and fellow podcaster, Chris Brennan. Chris hosts The Astrology Podcast and is the author of the recently released book Hellenistic Astrology. As you would expect, our wide ranging chat covers astrology's Babylonian and Egyptian origins, how it was used in the ancient world, how previous cultures conceived of it and how these conceptions changed over the intervening millennia. We also talk about how one might use some of these recent...
Talking Decolonisation and Modern Indigenous Lifeways |Marcus Matawhero Lloyd
May 17, 2017 20:47 - 1 hour - 65.3 MBThis week we are speaking with Marcus Matawhero Lloyd. Marcus is a speaker, activist, digital evangelist and member of Ngā Ariki Kaiputahi tribe. We chat about indigenous data sovereignty in the modern world, his experiences at Standing Rock and his journey to reconstruct the ancient Pā site of his ancestors. Big thanks to Rune Soup Premium Member, Kiwi Charles, for putting us in touch. It's a brilliant conversation! Show Notes Be sure to check out the Rune Soup post page for supp...
Talking UFOs and Synchronicity | Mike Clelland
May 10, 2017 22:01 - 1 hour - 81.3 MBThis week we are speaking with Mike Clelland. Mike is a blogger, artist, author, abduction researcher and UFO experiencer best known from his blog and audio series, Hidden Experience. FINALLY we have a guest who answers the first question in the manner I had always hoped. It's a very good chat. Enjoy. Show Notes Mike's Book: The Messengers: Owls, Synchronicity and the UFO Abductee Mike blog, Hidden Experience
Talking Ancient Plant Medicine | Wolf Dieter Storl
May 03, 2017 20:51 - 1 hour - 64.8 MBThis week we speak to Dr Wolf Dieter Storl. Dr Storl is an ethnobotanist, anthropologist, lecturer and author. He has spent time all over the world from Cheyenne lands to India, exploring the role of plants and healing in world cultures. His latest book (in English), The Untold History of Healing, is an exploration of palaeolithic herb lore and medicine, as well as which components of this lore have survived down to us today. A splendid chat. Show Notes The Untold History of Healing...
Talking After-Death Contact | Leslie Kean
April 27, 2017 00:00 - 1 hour - 64.9 MBThis week we are speaking to investigative journalist, writer and producer Leslie Kean. Leslie is the author of UFOs: Generals, Pilots and Government Officials Go on the Record and the recently released Surviving Death: A Journalist Investigates Evidence for an Afterlife. It's a fantastic discussion. Leslie's latest book is likely the best assembly of the many facets of After-Death research yet published -covering children's past life memories, physical mediumship, End of Life encounters a...
Talking Off-Grid Living | Lucy AitkenRead
April 19, 2017 22:46 - 1 hour - 64.5 MBThis week we are speaking to Lucy AitkenRead. Lucy is a writer, video blogger and off-grid homesteader. She is the author of several books, including 30 days of Rewilding and is the first guest to record an episode of the podcast from inside a yurt! Good stuff. Show Notes Lucy's website Lulastic on Facebook Lucy's YouTube channel Lucy's Patreon
Talking Natural Medicine | Rosalee de la Forêt
April 12, 2017 21:35 - 1 hour - 65.8 MBThis week we speak to Rosalee de la Forêt. Rosalee is an educator, clinical herbalist and structural medicine specialist. She is the author of the recently released book, Alchemy of Herbs. We talk ethnobotany, her own journey from chronic condition to wellness, what herbalism is and how it relates to food, drinking, etc. And then we also get some free advice for allergy season in the Northern Hemisphere and cold/flu advice for the Southern. Good, delicious times. Show Notes Rosalee'...
Talking The Game of Saturn | Peter Mark Adams
April 05, 2017 22:36 - 1 hour - 61.4 MBThis week we speak to Peter Mark Adams about his amazing new book, The Game of Saturn. Recently released by Scarlet Imprint, The Game of Saturn walks us through the origin and meaning of the oldest 'tarot-ish' deck in the world, the Sola Busca card deck. Peter talks us through the story of the emergence of these cards within an ascendant Northern Italy both exploring and putting to nefarious use its recently-acquired Byzantine magical inheritance. The thesis is astonishing, the book is...
Talking Psi and Magic | Dr Dean Radin
March 29, 2017 20:28 - 1 hour - 68.4 MBThis week we speak to the one and only Dr Dean Radin. Dr Radin is chief scientist at the institute of noetic science, an author of numerous books and articles and one of the world’s leading parapsychologists. Obviously it's very good times. Show Notes Dean Radin's website The Institute of Noetic Sciences Dean Radin's author page Note: Apologies for the audio in the closing comments. I'm travelling again for the next couple of weeks and finding audio-friendly AirBnbs seems like mor...
Talking Marsilio Ficino | Dr Angela Voss
March 22, 2017 22:05 - 1 hour - 59.1 MBThis week we speak to musician, scholar and astrologer, Dr Angela Voss. Dr Voss is Programme Director for the ‘Myth, Cosmology and the Sacred’ MA at Canterbury Christ Church Cathedral University and is the author of the western esoteric masteries series book on Marsilio Ficino. Ficino is one of the most fascinating people in European history, a cornerstone of the Renaissance and the story of western magic. So this is a great chat. Show Notes MA Course in Myth, Cosmology and the Sacred ...
Talking Remote Viewing | Lyn Buchanan
March 15, 2017 20:10 - 1 hour - 64.4 MBThis week we speak to military remote viewer, Lyn Buchanan. Lyn is also an author, linguist and systems engineer. We chat about the emergence of the remote viewing programme, its implications for our understanding of the universe, the side effects of CRV, viewing through time and a whole lot more. Fantastic, fantastic chat. Show Notes Lyn's Controlled Remote Viewing training site Lyn's book, The Seventh Sense
Talking Plant Medicine and Appalachian Folklore | Becky Beyer
March 08, 2017 23:37 - 1 hour - 84.6 MBThis week we speak to witch, ethnobotanist, agriculturalist and artist, Becky Beyer. Becky is based in Appalachia and it is this bioregion that informs all of her work. A really splendid discussion. Don't miss it. Show Notes Becky's website and blog, Blood and Spicebush Blood and Spicebush on Facebook Blood and Spicebush on Instagram
Talking Worldviews, Culture and Comparison | Dr Jeff Kripal
February 28, 2017 23:10 - 1 hour - 57.6 MBThis week we welcome back one of our most popular guests, Dr Jeff Kripal. Dr Kripal last joined us to talk about his book, The Super Natural. Today we are speaking on the value of comparison, the role of the supernatural in culture, the rise of Esalen and the perennial need for art and creativity. A fantastic chat. Show Notes Here's a list of Dr Kripal's books. All recommended.
Talking Australian Folk Magic | Dr Ian Evans
February 22, 2017 21:13 - 49 minutes - 45.6 MBThis week, we welcome Dr Ian Evans, architectural historian, author and conservationist. Dr Evans’ 2010 thesis, ‘Touching Magic’, was the first ever academic examination of the historic use of witches marks, bottles and other apotropaic magic in Australia. It's an absolutely fantastic chat. There are photos from Dr Evans' research available at runesoup.com, along with his entire thesis, some additional reporting on the topic and a video on the Tasmanian Magic Project.
Talking Taoist Sigil Magic | Benebell Wen
February 15, 2017 20:20 - 1 hour - 58.9 MBThis week we speak to writer and metaphysician, Benebell Wen. Benebell is the author of Holistic Tarot and The Tao of Craft. It's a great chat, covering the history of Taoism and Taoist magic, differences in western and eastern sigil construction, Chinese diaspora lifeways, families hauntings and -inevitably- a little tarot too. Enjoy. Show Notes Benebell's website Benebell on Twitter Benebell on Instagram The Tao of Craft
Talking Magical Realism, Curanderismo & Empire | Jesse Hathaway Diaz
February 08, 2017 19:43 - 1 hour - 77.5 MBThis week we welcome back Jesse Hathaway Diaz to talk Curanderismo, magical realism, Orisha traditions, and Aztec calendars and astrology. So good! Show Notes Jesse's blog, Serpent Shod Jesse's store, Wolf and Goat Radio Free Golgotha, Jesse's podcast with Dr Al Cummins
Talking Folk Saints & Black Madonnas | Mallorie Vaudoise
February 01, 2017 18:53 - 1 hour - 59.2 MBThis week we speak to writer, practitioner (and most recently translator of Le Livre des Esperitz for jake Stratton-Kent’s Pandemonium), Mallorie Vaudoise. We talk the origin of the saints, the Italian American diaspora experience, the Black Madonna, necromancy, sacred dances and a whole lot more. Good times! Show Notes Mallorie's blog, Paese Ombra Paese Ombra on Facebook Example of a courtship dance Example of a confrontation dance (For the book list, please visit runesoup.com...
Talking Pandemonium | Jake Stratton-Kent
January 13, 2017 04:19 - 1 hour - 58.5 MBThis week we welcome back to the show none other than Jake Stratton-Kent to talk about his latest book, Pandemonium: A Discordant Concordance of Diverse Spirit Catalogues. We also talk implicit and explicit ritual structure, the origins of spirit catalogues, how to think usefully about hierarchy and a whole lot more. A splendid chat. Show Notes Pandemonium is published by Hadean Press
Talking Anthropology, Magic & Tibet | Ben Joffe
January 11, 2017 05:03 - 1 hour - 72.7 MBThis week we speak to cultural anthropologist, researcher and practitioner, Ben Joffe. Ben’s particular areas of expertise include the anthropology of magic, the Tibet diaspora, ritual and esotericism. A splendid discussion. Show Notes Ben's blog, The Perfumed Skull Ben on academia.edu
Talking Thai Animism & Sorcery | Jenx
January 11, 2017 04:31 - 1 hour - 62 MBThis week, all the way from the land of smiles, we welcome Peter Jenks. Jenx is the author of the recently published The Thai Occult and so we shall, inevitably, be speaking about the fascinating subject of Thai animism and magic. An absolutely fantastic conversation. Show Notes The Thai Occult Book on Facebook Purchase The Thai Occult The Thai Occult website
Conner Habib | Talking How To Be Awesome In 2017
January 04, 2017 20:57 - 1 hour - 61 MBThis week we welcome back author, lecturer, rights advocate and renegade Anthroposophist, Conner Habib. For our first show of 2017, we talk about how you can make it your year, the best mindset for challenging times and the personal power you have available. Good times. Very good times indeed. Show Notes Conner's latest course, Radical Undoing: Decolonize Your Mind with Sex, Science, The Occult and Philosophy Conner's website Conner on Twitter
Talking Rune Soup in 2017 with... You?
December 29, 2016 06:05 - 31 minutes - 58 MBI'm excited to announce that -beginning in 2017- Rune Soup will offer a Premium Membership option. Listen along -or watch the driving video on YouTube- and find out more about the membership and why it exists. What a Rune Soup Premium Membership will do for you: 1. Make you better at practical enchantment (and thus possibly life) Ongoing Rolling Courses A minimum of one complete, multi-week course per quarter Ad hoc courses or long form presentations as needed or requested Largel...
Austin Coppock | Talking Astrology in 2017
December 21, 2016 02:45 - 1 hour - 74.7 MBThis week we have our regular six-monthly chat with the one and only Austin Coppock about the astrological trends to note in the coming year. We also talk cycle models, finding the right attitude, long range trends, eclipses and what could be in store for Trump. Love it. Show Notes Austin's website Austin on Facebook Austin on Twitter
Miguel Conner | Talking Heresy
December 14, 2016 21:02 - 1 hour - 63.2 MBThis week we speak to podcaster and gnosis nerd, Miguel Conner, of Aeon Byte Gnostic Radio. Topics covered include Simon Magus, heresy, developments in Gnostic research, competing Christianities and sacred window areas. An absolute pleasure as always. Show Notes Miguel's blog and podcast Miguel's latest book, Other Voices of Gnosticism Miguel's first book, Voices of Gnosticism Miguel on twitter
John Higgs | Talking Timothy Leary & Twentieth Century Weirdness
December 07, 2016 20:44 - 1 hour - 80.8 MBThis week we speak to author John Higgs about the singular oddness that was the twentieth century -the century that gave us space travel, nuclear weapons, the internet, existentialism, quantum theory, chaos mathematics, some fairly impressive genocide events and the greatest material lift in quality of life for the most people ever. Along the way we talk about Timothy Leary and the counterculture, meeting Robert Anton Wilson, Alan Moore's Fossil Angels and the shortcomings of transhumanism...
Scarlet Imprint | Talking Magic in 2017
November 30, 2016 03:34 - 1 hour - 60.4 MBEpisode 52! That means the podcast has been running -without interruption- for a whole year. If you've never done it before, you may be unaware of why I am quietly quite proud of this achievement. If you have done it before -but not in a year where you secretly moved across the world and lived first in a house with no furniture, then an AirBnB, then lived without a fixed address for two months- well... look into it. It's not that bad. (Ha! Definitely do not do this. Fishing around in sev...
Peter Levenda | Talking Lovecraft
November 23, 2016 20:16 - 1 hour - 67.2 MBThis week we welcome back the one and only Peter Levenda to talk all things Lovecraft. I've been looking forward to this one! Show Notes The Lovecraft Code - Peter Levenda The Dark Lord: H.P Lovecraft, Kenneth Grant, and the Typhonian Tradition in Magic - Peter Levenda Peter's website Peter on Twitter
Lasara Firefox Allen | Talking Jailbreaking The Goddess
November 16, 2016 20:42 - 1 hour - 66.4 MBThis week we have a very timely discussion with writer, teacher and activist, Lasara Firefox Allen about identity, justice, culture and self-limitation. Also biodomes, growing up weird in California and feminist spirituality. Good times. Good discussion. Enjoy! Show Notes Lasara's website The book, Jailbreaking the Goddess Lasara on Twitter Lasara on Facebook
Khi Armand | Talking Leadership, Spirit Work and America
November 10, 2016 00:33 - 1 hour - 69.1 MBThis week we speak to hoodoo and shamanic practitioner, speaker, teacher and activist, Khi Armand. Naturally, we discuss the evolution of hoodoo, the impact of place and context on spirit work, the culture that is America, the role that shamanism and the spirits can play in uncovering your life's purpose and a whole lot more. A splendid chat! Show Notes Impact Shamanism Impact Shamanism Facebook Page Greenwood Conjure Greenwood Conjure Facebook Page
Julio Cesar Ody | Talking Spiritism and Grimoires
November 02, 2016 20:31 - 1 hour - 57.4 MBThis week we speak to Julio Cesar Ody. Julio is a native of Brazil and has many years experience with spirit work. He is also a writer and a blogger and, conveniently for me, happens to also live on the east coast of Australia. No time zones for once! We talk spiritism, grimoires, childhood séances, magical Brazil, and the general state of the magical Internet. Good chat. Good times. Enjoy! Show notes Julio’s blog Julio’s other blog (you may have heard of it) Julio on twitter Ju...
Michael M. Hughes | Talking Tarot
October 26, 2016 20:11 - 1 hour - 78.2 MBThis week we chat to novelist and Fortean researcher, Michael M. Hughes, about one of my absolute favourite subjects -the tarot. We also chat about a few other favourite topics, too -including UFO encounters and quality weird fiction. It's a splendid, splendid chat. Show Notes Michael's website and blog Michael on twitter Michael's book and deck recommendations: This week's guest has been gracious enough to share some suggestions and pointers for the listeners, which you can find b...
Gary Lachman | Talking Colin Wilson
October 19, 2016 05:30 - 1 hour - 70.5 MBThis week the one and only Gary Lachman returns to the show to talk about Colin Wilson, existentialism, phenomenology and the twentieth century counter-culture. A fantastic chat. Enjoy! Show Notes Gary's latest book, Beyond The Robot: The Life and Work of Colin Wilson Gary's website and blog
Cath Thompson | Talking English Qaballa
October 12, 2016 21:56 - 1 hour - 65.4 MBFor Uncle Al's birthday week, we speak to Cath Thompson about her recently released The Magickal Language of the Book of the Law: An English Qaballa Primer. EQ is an alphanumeric system derived from Liber Al that allows for the examination of any other text or concept within the context of a Book of the Law worldview. We also talk art, magical misadventures and school séances. Good times. Show Notes The Magickal Language of the Book of the Law: An English Qaballa Primer Cath's blog...
Nicholaj de Mattos Frisvold | Talking Ifá
October 06, 2016 05:04 - 58 minutes - 53.7 MBThis week we speak to the one and only Nicholaj de Mattos Frisvold about his latest book, Ifá: Forest of Mystery. We also discuss troll mountains, Quimbanda, fallen angels, spirits of the left hand and loads more. Excellent times. Show Notes Nicholaj's blog The book itself Nicholaj on Facebook A primer video on Ifá
Talking Cypriana: Old World | Dr Al Cummins, Jesse Hathaway Diaz, Dr Jenn Zahrt
September 28, 2016 22:42 - 1 hour - 65.9 MBThis week we speak to the editors of Rubedo Press's latest publication, Cypriana: Old World, about all things Cyprian and Justina. Specifically that is Dr Al Cummins, Jesse Hathaway Diaz and Dr Jenn Zahrt. We discuss St Cyprian's hagiography, the differences between his Northern expression and his Iberian one, Cyprianic grimoire magic, his cross-cultural and gender implications and a boatload more (including actual boats). A splendid, splendid chat. Show Notes Get the book The Rubed...
Dr Ardy Sixkiller-Clarke | Talking Indigenous UFO Encounters
September 22, 2016 09:08 - 1 hour - 59.6 MBThis week we speak to one of my very favourite UFO researchers, Dr Ardy Sixkiller-Clarke. Ardy has been collating contemporary UFO encounters within an indigenous American context for many years, as well as experiencing a few of her own along the way. These adventures are written up in three books (so far!) that you will find linked up in the show notes. Enjoy! Show Notes Ardy Sixkiller-Clarke's website Encounters with Star People: Untold Stories of American Indians Sky People: ...