Adam sits down with fellow colleague and friend, Michael Baer, to tackle the big 3: Jesus, politics and money. From their first meeting at Dave Ramsey's Financial Peace University nearly 8 years ago to both having 4 (almost, Adam!) young ones at home, the candid discussion naturally pivots from humble beginnings, to faith, to finance and back. 

Key takeaways:

The transition from being just a "spiritual tourist" to being our in-house pastor Fisher is not right for retirees and holding on to certain Covid names for too long It doesn't matter what all of the financial gurus say, because every single human being is going to want a financial plan based on their own life experiences