Relationship Matters

Ep.2 Nature as an Ally

In this episode, Katie Churchman is talking with CRR Global co-founder Faith Fuller and CRR faculty member Janet Frood about viewing Nature as an ally when we consider relationship systems intelligence. This isn’t just about considering our relationship with nature but also, thinking about how nature is a part of us and looking at what nature can teach us. Across the episode, they cover a variety of colorful topics including: nature’s ability to shift our perspective; the healing power of na...

Ep.2 Nature as an Ally

In this episode, Katie Churchman is talking with CRR Global co-founder Faith Fuller and CRR faculty member Janet Frood about viewing Nature as an ally when we consider relationship systems intelligence. This isn’t just about considering our relationship with nature but also, thinking about how nature is a part of us and looking at what nature can teach us. Across the episode, they cover a variety of colorful topics including: nature’s ability to shift our perspective; the healing power of na...

Ep.1 Crossing edges and Returning to the Office

To kick-start a brand new season of the Relationship Matters Podcast, Katie Churchman talks with Sandra Cain (Director of Curriculum and Senior Faculty at CRR Global) about crossing edges around returning to the office.  After over a year of lock-down and remote working, many organizations are now contemplating a return to the office. However, there’s no clear road map for navigating this change and business leaders are finding that the challenges are much more complicated than originally t...

Season 3 Trailer

World Work Bonus: Supporting NGOs through ORSC

In this collection of bonus episodes, we’re looking at the concept of World Work, which embraces the idea that we are continuously impacting the world, whether we are conscious of it or not. Whilst World Work can involve big acts of altruism and community spirit, it always starts with self. Across the course of these 4 bonus episodes, you will be hearing from 4 ‘world workers’ from across the globe, who have all used ORSC tools in very different ways tools to serve their wider communities. ...

Worldwork Bonus: Supporting NGOs through ORSC

In this collection of bonus episodes, we’re looking at the concept of Worldwork, which embraces the idea that we are continuously impacting the world, whether we are conscious of it or not. Whilst Worldwork can involve big acts of altruism and community spirit, it always starts with self. Across the course of these 4 bonus episodes, you will be hearing from 4 World workers from across the globe, who have all used ORSC tools in very different ways tools to serve their wider communities. In ...

World Work Bonus: Cabaret & Coaching

In this collection of bonus episodes, we’re looking at the concept of World Work, which embraces the idea that we are continuously impacting the world, whether we are conscious of it or not. Whilst World Work can involve big acts of altruism and community spirit, it always starts with self. Across the course of these 4 bonus episodes, you will be hearing from 4 ‘world workers’ from across the globe, who have all used ORSC tools in very different ways tools to serve their wider communities.  ...

Worldwork Bonus: Cabaret & Coaching

In this collection of bonus episodes, we’re looking at the concept of Worldwork, which embraces the idea that we are continuously impacting the world, whether we are conscious of it or not. Whilst Worldwork can involve big acts of altruism and community spirit, it always starts with self. Across the course of these 4 bonus episodes, you will be hearing from 4 Worldworkers from across the globe, who have all used ORSC tools in very different ways tools to serve their wider communities.  In t...

World Work Bonus: ORSC & Sports

In this collection of bonus episodes, we’re looking at the concept of World Work, which embraces the idea that we are continuously impacting the world, whether we are conscious of it or not. Whilst World Work can involve big acts of altruism and community spirit, it always starts with self. Across the course of these 4 bonus episodes, you will be hearing from 4 ‘world workers’ from across the globe, who have all used ORSC tools in very different ways tools to serve their wider communities.  ...

Worldwork Bonus: ORSC & Sports

In this collection of bonus episodes, we’re looking at the concept of Worldwork, which embraces the idea that we are continuously impacting the world, whether we are conscious of it or not. Whilst Worldwork can involve big acts of altruism and community spirit, it always starts with self. Across the course of these 4 bonus episodes, you will be hearing from 4 Worldworkers from across the globe, who have all used ORSC tools in very different ways tools to serve their wider communities.  In t...

World Work Bonus: Lands Work, Theater and Refugee Integration

In this collection of bonus episodes, we’re looking at the concept of World Work, which embraces the idea that we are continuously impacting the world, whether we are conscious of it or not. Whilst World Work can involve big acts of altruism and community spirit, it always starts with self. Across the course of these 4 bonus episode, you will be hearing from 4 ‘world workers’ from across the globe, who have all used ORSC tools in very different ways tools to serve their wider communities.   ...

Worldwork Bonus: Lands Work, Theater and Refugee Integration

In this collection of bonus episodes, we’re looking at the concept of Worldwork, which embraces the idea that we are continuously impacting the world, whether we are conscious of it or not. Whilst Worldwork can involve big acts of altruism and community spirit, it always starts with self. Across the course of these 4 bonus episode, you will be hearing from 4 Worldworkers from across the globe, who have all used ORSC tools in very different ways tools to serve their wider communities.    In ...

Worldwork Bonus (Trailer)

In this collection of bonus episodes, we’re looking at the concept of Worldwork, which embraces the idea that we are continuously impacting the world, whether we are conscious of it or not. Whilst Worldwork can involve big acts of altruism and community spirit, it always starts with self. Across the course of these 4 bonus episodes, you will be hearing from 4 Worldworkers’from across the globe, who have all used ORSC tools in very different ways tools to serve their wider communities.   

World Work Bonus (Trailer)

In this collection of bonus episodes, we’re looking at the concept of World Work, which embraces the idea that we are continuously impacting the world, whether we are conscious of it or not. Whilst World Work can involve big acts of altruism and community spirit, it always starts with self. Across the course of these 4 bonus episodes, you will be hearing from 4 ‘world workers’ from across the globe, who have all used ORSC tools in very different ways tools to serve their wider communities.   

Ep15. The 5 Principles of RSI: Emergence

In this episode Marita Fridjhon is deep-diving into the 5th and final principle of RSI: Relationship Systems are in a constant state of emergence, always in the process of expressing their potential. This principle is critical to the phenomenon referred to as the speed of change. It signifies modern society’s increasingly shorter planning horizons and the required flexibility to embrace and navigate change effectively. Successful organizations are nimble and flexible in the face of shifting...

Ep.14 Small Habits and Fresh Starts

In this episode, Floyd Carlson and Katie Churchman are discussing the power of small habits and fresh starts. Building on their previous discussion around myths and myth change they explore ways of refreshing or completely rewriting narratives in our everyday lives. How can we change the stories that will enable us to step into new ways of being, with each other and with ourselves. We often wait for temporal markers- like a New Year or a birthday ending in a zero- to make big changes…but wh...

Ep.14 Small Habits and Fresh Starts

In this episode, Floyd Carlson and Katie Churchman are discussing the power of small habits and fresh starts. Building on their previous discussion around myths and myth change they explore ways of refreshing or completely rewriting narratives in our everyday lives. How can we change the stories that will enable us to step into new ways of being, with each other and with ourselves. We often wait for temporal markers- like a New Year or a birthday ending in a zero- to make big changes…but wh...

Ep 13. The 5 Principles of RSI: Intelligent, Generative and Creative

In this episode, Marita Fridjhon is deep-diving into the 4th principle of RSI: Relationship Systems Are Naturally Intelligent, Generative and Creative. This principle allows us to view any change or disturbance as an ally while trusting the Team Entity’s resourcefulness to find its own answers. Conflict and chaos are seen as signals and messages by the Team Entity to co-create from- rather than react to- something new that is trying to happen.  The more RSI a team has, the more collectivel...

Ep.12 Do you want to be right or do you want to be in relationship?

In this episode, Katie Churchman talks with Maddie Weinreich about toxic behaviors. Building on John Gottman’s research into couples they explore how to become more aware and ultimately reduce the amount of ‘toxins’ that show up in your relationship. The 4 Relationship Toxins are Defensiveness, Contempt, Stonewalling and Blaming. When used frequently, these toxic communication patterns are so lethal to human relationships that Dr. Gottman coined the term the “The Four Horsemen of the Apocaly...

Ep 11. ORSC and Agile

In this episode, Katie Churchman talks with ORSC coach and Agile expert Terrance Turpin. Terrance has over 20 years of experience in Technology and Software Development and is also a CRR USA staff member. Terrance blends Team coaching – supporting teams in clarifying, aligning & co-creating as a diverse but single entity -and Agility coaching – establishing healthy states of flow across an organization by coaching for alignment in structure, processes, environments, and relationships. Terran...

Ep.10 - Myth Change

In this episode, Floyd Carlson and Katie Churchman are discussing myths and myth change. The idea of a myth connects us with the archetypal roots of the relationship - which has great meaning and power. We are always developing who we are as a couple or a corporation, but often unconsciously. So by revealing this creative process to clients the coach we can make it much more conscious and intentional.  Floyd is a Front of the Room Leader for CRR Global who focuses on leaders and teams and b...

Ep.9 - The 5 Principles of RSI: Roles

In this episode, Marita Fridjhon is deep-diving into principle 3: Relationship Systems Rely on Roles for their Organization and Execution of functions. Roles belong to the system, not to the individuals that inhabit the system This principle requires the biggest mental shift in teaming and leadership focus as it asserts that every team member has the responsibility to hold a leadership role on behalf of the system.  Every relationship system has its own functional and emotional needs that ...

Ep.9 - The 5 Principles of RSI: Roles

In this episode, Marita Fridjhon is deep-diving into principle 3: Relationship Systems Rely on Roles for their Organization and Execution of functions. Roles belong to the system, not to the individuals that inhabit the system This principle requires the biggest mental shift in teaming and leadership focus as it asserts that every team member has the responsibility to hold a leadership role on behalf of the system.  Every relationship system has its own functional and emotional needs that ...

Ep.8 The 5 Principles of RSI: Voice of the System

In this episode, Marita Fridjhon and Katie Churchman deep-dive into the second of the 5 principles of Relationship Systems intelligence: Every member of the system is an information carrier and Voice of the System (VOS).   You can think of a team or family as a puzzle where every member is a piece. To reveal the picture of the overall team experience, every piece is needed. Each member has critical information about the functioning of that team or family. The information may be transmitted ...

Ep.8 The 5 Principles of RSI: Voice of the System

In this episode, Marita Fridjhon and Katie Churchman deep-dive into the second of the 5 principles of Relationship Systems intelligence: Every member of the system is an information carrier and Voice of the System (VOS).   You can think of a team or family as a puzzle where every member is a piece. To reveal the picture of the overall team experience, every piece is needed. Each member has critical information about the functioning of that team or family. The information may be transmitted ...

Ep. 7 Vitality for Couples

In this episode, Katie Churchman talks with Maddie Weinreich about vitality for couples.  There are all kinds of ways we can be in relationship with our partners. Sometimes it can be very dull to be in a couple and can be very exciting! Relationships are in constant cycles.  In this episode, Maddie talks about relationship behavioral patterns that can help to foster more aliveness, engagement and vitality.  After two decades of working with couples, Maddie’s noticed 5 recurring ‘elements’ ...

Ep. 7 Vitality for Couples

In this episode, Katie Churchman talks with Maddie Weinreich about vitality for couples.  There are all kinds of ways we can be in relationship with our partners. Sometimes it can be very dull to be in a couple and can be very exciting! Relationships are in constant cycles.  In this episode, Maddie talks about relationship behavioral patterns that can help to foster more aliveness, engagement and vitality.  After two decades of working with couples, Maddie’s noticed 5 recurring ‘elements’ ...

Ep.6 Allyship

In this episode, CRR Global faculty member Neil Edwards is talking about Allyship. An ally is any person that actively promotes and aspires to advance the culture of inclusion through intentional, positive and conscious efforts that benefit people as a whole. Neil Edwards is a soulful leader and perceptive coach who works at the intersection of leadership, relationships, wellbeing, and Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion. Neil supports leaders and teams and focuses on self-identity, self-autho...

Ep.5 The 5 Principles of RSI: The Third Entity

In this episode, Marita Fridjhon deep-dives into the first of the 5 principles of Relationship Systems Intelligence (or RSI): The Third Entity. RSI involves the ability to move from seeing a group of individuals to seeing the system itself, as a living breathing entity and this is what we call Third Entity. Relationship Systems Work holds that there is more present in a relationship than the individual team members. Along with the people involved, there is also the relationship or system i...

Ep.5 - The 5 Principles of RSI: The Third Entity

In this episode, Marita Fridjhon deep-dives into the first of the 5 principles of Relationship Systems Intelligence (or RSI): The Third Entity. RSI involves the ability to move from seeing a group of individuals to seeing the system itself, as a living breathing entity and this is what we call Third Entity. Relationship Systems Work holds that there is more present in a relationship than the individual team members. Along with the people involved, there is also the relationship or system i...

Ep.4 - What if your partner could be your ally...?

In this episode, Katie Churchman is talking with master coach Maddie Weinreich. As well as being the past director of faculty and leader development at CRR Global Maddie currently serves as a senior Front of the Room Leader for the ORSC Program and ORSC Certification Maddie’s passion for personal development and human potential contributes to her success in the field of relationship coaching. For more than 25 years, Maddie’s own marriage has provided her with deep insights into the joys and...

Ep.4 What if your partner could be your ally...?

In this episode, Katie Churchman is talking with master coach Maddie Weinreich. As well as being the past director of faculty and leader development at CRR Global Maddie currently serves as a senior Front of the Room Leader for the ORSC Program and ORSC Certification Maddie’s passion for personal development and human potential contributes to her success in the field of relationship coaching. For more than 25 years, Maddie’s own marriage has provided her with deep insights into the joys and...

Ep.3 Time Spirits (Part 2: Ghosts)

In part 2 of Ghosts, Faith Fuller is talking about Time Spirits. Time spirits are cultural ghosts, literally spirits of the times. Time Spirits arise from potent experiences or beliefs which involve the larger societal field. Each region or country has its own time spirits, depending on its history.  For example,  the United States wrestles with the Time Spirit of 9/11 and Germany works with the Time Spirit of the Holocaust, In this episode, Faith talks about working with a Time Spirit. In...

Ep.2 Ghost Roles (Part 1: Ghosts)

In Part-1 of Ghosts, Faith Fuller is talking about Ghost roles.  Ghost roles are invisible third-party presences that come and go and impact the emotional field. A ghost role is present when something is clearly affecting the relationship, yet isn’t talked about, and may not even be conscious to the people in the system.  Ghosts arise from our experiences in previous relationships, both personal and professional. They may be people, or they may be events and they can both negatively and po...

Ep.1 Introducing the 5-Principles of RSI

In the first episode of season 2, Marita Fridjhon introduces the 5 principles of Relationship Systems Intelligence (RSI). RSI has five key principles which shape what we believe, how we engage, and the “place from which we come.” These principles underpin all of our relationships and are, therefore, fundamental to everything we do as coaches, leaders and human beings. Understanding and engaging in these principles can help us to better access and apply Relationship Systems Intelligence, with...

Welcome to Season 2

Ep 15. Meeting the System

In the Season 1 finale, Marita Fridjhon and Katie Churchman are talking about meeting the system. How can we make sure we are meeting the people in front us, as they are in the present moment? When we’re coaching, it can be all too easy to presume we know who we’re talking to – particularly when it comes to longer-term coaching engagements. So each and every time we meet a system, how can we try to see it with brand new eyes? So that our preconceptions and past experiences don’t cloud our vi...

Ep 14. Integrating Systems Coaching

In this episode, Faith Fuller and Katie Churchman are discussing ways we can integrate Organizational Relationship Systems Coaching (otherwise known as ORSC) into our work and into our lives. If you already have an established coaching or consultancy practice, how might you benefit from ORSC? And how can you seamlessly blend ORSC into what you’re already doing?

Ep 13. Leadership is a Role that belongs to the System

In this episode, Marita Fridjhon and Katie Churchman talk about collective leadership. Many of us attribute the idea of ‘leadership’ to a particular person or a team of ‘leaders.' However, as Marita explains in this podcast, leadership can also be viewed as a role that belongs to the system. When we embrace this idea we start to see that inspired leadership can show up in the most unlikely places and from the most unlikely people. What would your team or family dynamic be like if there was m...

Ep 12. Establishing a Coaching Agenda

In this episode, Faith Fuller is talking about setting a coaching agenda.  Establishing a clear agenda at the start of a coaching session is incredibly important because it sets expectations and also influences the relationship between coach and client.  It’s a powerful tool that can set the tone for everything else to follow. But it can also be the coaching session in of itself. As Faith explains- the agenda doesn’t have to be something we rush to ‘get done’ at the beginning of the session...

Ep11. Reading the Emotional Field

In this episode, Marita Fridjhon and Katie Churchman are talking about reading and working with the emotional field, which is a key element of systems coaching. By closely tracking shifts in the emotional field we can start to reflect back and possibly shape the emotional climate in a given situation. You can think of it like an immediate weather report of what is happening emotionally in this moment. And just like a weather report, it’s not exact. There might be a 69% chance of rain, just ...

Ep.10 Where do we go from here?

In response to the recent events in the US, Faith Fuller is asking: Where do we go from here? This is the same question Martin Luther King Jr wrote a book about in 1967 titled, ‘Where Do We Go from Here: Chaos or Community?’ And to quote king himself: ““In the days ahead we must not consider it unpatriotic to raise certain basic questions about our national character.”  So in this episode, Faith questions what more we can be doing as individuals to take a stand against racism? What are the ...

Ep.10 Where do we go from here?

In response to the recent events in the US, Faith Fuller is asking: Where do we go from here? This is the same question Martin Luther King Jr wrote a book about in 1967 titled, ‘Where Do We Go from Here: Chaos or Community?’ And to quote king himself: ““In the days ahead we must not consider it unpatriotic to raise certain basic questions about our national character.”  So in this episode, Faith questions what more we can be doing as individuals to take a stand against racism? What are the ...

Ep. 9 Who’s not Here?

During this time of upheaval and social conflict going on in the US, CRR Global and the Relationship Matters Podcast supports the stand against systemic racism, racial bias and the history of black community oppression. Relationship matters regardless of race and ethnicity.  We Believe Relationship Matters. We Believe Black Lives Matter. We Believe All Voices Matter. In this episode, Marita is calling for productive dialogue around race and racism. What are the blind spots that stop us fro...

Ep. 8 Why Can’t We Talk About Racism

In light of recent events in the US, Faith Fuller is talking about our challenges with talking about racism. In this vulnerable and revealing conversation, Faith asks why so many white people struggle to talk about race and racism and interrogates her own discomfort around the subject. How can we stay in this uncomfortable space so that we can start having the kind of conversations that may lead to change?

Ep.7 Coach, Consultant or something else...?

In this episode, Faith Fuller is talking about what makes systems coaching different. What are the crossovers between pure coaching and consultancy and what is unique about systems coaching? What do we do? Why do we do it? And how does it help our clients? Over the course of this conversation we discuss the following topics: The differences between therapy and coaching The differences between pure coaching and systems coaching Blending consultancy and coaching Giving our clients the too...

Ep 6. Systems Inspired Leadership

In this episode, Marita Frijdhon is talking about system inspired leadership and why it is needed now more than ever.  As we say in systems coaching, ‘the whole is greater than the sum of its parts’ and by utilizing this intelligence, teams of all shapes and sizes may find that they not only survive- but thrive- through challenging times. Instead of focusing on the individual mountain that we have to climb, let’s connect with the team around us, and consider what we can do together- today- t...

Ep 5. Transparency

In this episode, Faith Fuller is exploring Transparency. Practicing real, authentic transparency can be a very powerful tool- as a coach, a leader and as a human being. Transparency can help to build trust, deepen connections and humanize conversations. This episode covers the importance of transparency when coaching systems you are a part of; being clear and upfront about hidden agendas; using transparency in emails and texts to offer clarity and also, using it as a tool for flagging inten...

Ep 4. Life-Giving vs. Life-Draining

In this episode, Marita Fridjhon is talking about life-giving and life-draining behaviours. What gives you life and what drains you? And which do you bring more of to your family, colleagues and community?  Over the course of the episode, Marita discusses becoming conscious of life-giving and life-draining qualities, the stages of grief and also takes a look at how the two qualities are more intertwined than we might realise. Can life-giving qualities exist within life-draining experiences,...

Ep 3. What to do after an argument?

In this episode of the Relationship Matters podcast, Faith Fuller is talking about the aftermath of an argument. Arguments are a normal part of relationship. So perhaps we should be less concerned about the amount we argue and more focused on how we argue.  And if we do blow up in relationship and we have a particularly unskillful argument, how can we more consciously recover from the blow and start to repair any damage that we might have created within the relationship?  In this episode, w...