This is Real Talk, a new podcast series where we’re going to break down the stigmas and feelings of embarrassment and talk openly and honestly about just how difficult breast cancer can be – from diagnosis to treatment, to living with metastatic breast cancer, to life after treatment ends. Today I’m joined by three women living with metastatic breast cancer. It is my pleasure to welcome Pam Kohl, who, along with Ann Camden and Katie Mackin, are getting real about the holidays and their thoughts and feelings this time of year.