Rational Security
544 episodes - English - Latest episode: 18 days ago - ★★★★★ - 1.9K ratingsA weekly discussion of national security and foreign policy matters featuring Lawfare senior editors Scott R. Anderson, Quinta Jurecic, and Alan Rozenshtein.
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The “Live Action Rational Security” Edition
May 11, 2022 16:00 - 1 hour - 94.8 MBThis week, Quinta and Scott were joined by RatSec 1.0 host emeritus Benjamin Wittes to talk through the week's big national security news stories, including: “Sharing is Caring.” Earlier this week, an unnamed senior U.S. official indicated that the United States is providing targeting information to Ukrainian forces–only to have other officials walk back that assertion almost immediately. What is actually happening? And why is the Biden administration so paranoid about discussing it openly...
The “Truth Fairy” Edition
May 04, 2022 16:00 - 1 hour - 90.5 MBThis week, Alan, Quinta and Scott were joined by Jeffrey Kosseff, cybersecurity law professor at the U.S. Naval Academy, to hash through some of the week's big national security news, including: “One Letter Off KGB, Two Letters Away from DGAF.” The Department of Homeland Security has taken heat this week for creating an internal Disinformation Governance Board, which partisan critics have railed against as a federal “Ministry of Truth” responsible for policing speech. What’s the real story...
The “In Lieu of Q” Edition
April 27, 2022 16:00 - 1 hour - 101 MBThis week, Alan and Scott were joined by Lawfare executive editor Natalie Orpett and law professor extraordinaire Kate Klonick to hash through some of the week's big national security news, including: “Time to Musk Up.” Prototypical eccentric billionaire Elon Musk has just finalized a deal to purchase Twitter, bring it private and implement a number of changes he claims are intended to expand freedom of speech. What will this mean for the future of Twitter and other social media platforms?...
The “Textual Healing” Edition
April 20, 2022 16:00 - 1 hour - 98.4 MBThis week, Alan, Quinta and Scott talked amongst themselves about some of the week's big national security news stories, including: “What’s in a Name?” Observers of the war in Ukraine are increasingly turning to a controversial term to describe the actions of Russian forces: genocide. Why are people suddenly using this word? Is its use appropriate here? “Who’s Afraid of Going Dark?” A recent expose has gone deep into the struggle between big tech companies and NSO Group, the Israeli hackin...
The "Boys Next Door" Edition
April 13, 2022 16:00 - 1 hour - 85.6 MBThis week, Alan, Quinta and Scott were joined by Lawfare managing editor Jacob Schulz to hash through some of the week's big national security news, including: “Le Pen 15 Club.” As France enters the final run-off round of its presidential election, incumbent Emmanuel Macron is being closely trailed by extreme right-wing leader Marine Le Pen. What explains Le Pen’s political potency? And what would a President Le Pen mean for the rest of the world? “The Biggest Botnet Takedown Since Geociti...
The "How Many Cs in Accountability” Edition
April 06, 2022 16:00 - 1 hour - 95.6 MBThis week, Alan, Quinta and Scott were joined by their fellow Lawfare senior editor and Brookings Institution senior fellow Molly Reynolds to hash through some of the week's big national security news, including: “The Butchers of Bucha.” Russian troops who recently retreated from the Kyiv suburb of Bucha appear to have engaged in a weeks-long campaign of violence against the Ukrainian civilians living there, leading some—including President Biden—to call for a war crimes trial. Why would Ru...
The "Slap in the Face" Edition
March 30, 2022 16:00 - 1 hour - 93.3 MBThis week, Alan, Quinta and Scott were joined by RatSec 1.0 host and Lawfare editor-in-chief Benjamin Wittes! They hashed through some of the week's big national security news, including: “You’re Changing my Regime, What a Wonderful Way to Say How Much You Hate Me.” In recent remarks in Europe, President Biden appeared to call for the removal of Russian President Vladimir Putin–a statement he later reframed as an expression of “moral outrage,” not a call for regime change. Was this a delib...
The "We Hear The Hague is Lovely in the Springtime" Edition
March 23, 2022 16:00 - 1 hour - 95.5 MBThis week, Alan, Quinta and Scott were joined by international law expert Chimene Keitner to hash through some of the week's big national security news, including: “Go Straight to Den Haag, Do Not Pass Go, Do Not Collect $200.” In recent days, Russia’s already illegal war in Ukraine has begun to cross more and more legal lines, as Russian forces seem to clearly be targeting civilians and even removing them from Ukrainian territory. What avenues might there be for holding them accountable fo...
The "Ides of March" Edition
March 16, 2022 16:00 - 1 hour - 99 MBThis week, Alan, Quinta, Scott and guest Lawfare executive editor Natalie Orpett sat down to discuss several of the week's big national security news stories, including: “The Dragon-Bear Reliance.” Russia is turning to China for help in mitigating some of the more harmful consequences of the measures that the United States and its allies are imposing in response to its invasion of Ukraine. Will China play along? And what will its decision mean for the future of the relationship between the ...
The "Thanks for Nothing, Volodya" Edition
March 09, 2022 17:00 - 1 hour - 90 MBThis week, Alan, Quinta and Scott sat down sans guest to work through some of the week's big national security news, including: “Like Stalin Without the ‘Stache.” The unpopularity of Russia’s war in Ukraine has led President Vladimir Putin to dramatically constrain what little free media and space for public dissent Russia had left. How will Russia be changed? “The No-No-Fly-Zone.” The United States and Europe are finding themselves at loggerheads with the beleaguered government of Ukrain...
The "War in Ukraine" Special Edition
March 02, 2022 14:27 - 1 hour - 98 MBThis week, Alan, Quinta and Scott sat down for a special episode committed to discussing a very serious topic: the war in Ukraine. They talked through three aspects of the conflict, namely: “In the Streets of Kyiv.” Over the past week, Ukraine’s fierce resistance has successfully stymied Russian efforts to remove its government. How have the Ukrainians pulled this off? And what does it tell us about the next stage of the conflict? “On the Global Stage.” While Ukrainians fight the Russian m...
The “Edgelord Putin” Edition
February 23, 2022 17:00 - 1 hour - 100 MBThis week, Alan, Quinta and Scott were joined once again by Lawfare executive editor Natalie Orpett! They talked through some of the week's biggest national security news, including: “Maybe He Has Border Recognition Disorder.” Despite reported reservations among his advisors, Putin is moving forward with an at least partial invasion of Ukraine, having recognized the breakaway Ukrainian territories of Donetsk and Lugansk as independent countries and deployed troops to “aid in their defense.”...
The "Bloody Valentine" Edition
February 16, 2022 17:00 - 1 hour - 94.9 MBThis week, Alan, Quinta and Scott were joined by their Lawfare colleague Dominic Bustillos! They talked through some of the week's biggest national security news, including: “Giving Chicken Kiev New Meaning.” The showdown over Ukraine may be headed to a dangerous climax this week, and it’s not clear who, if anyone, is going to blink. What do we make of the Biden administration’s strategy thus far, which has ruled out military involvement in favor of economic sanctions and has focused on exp...
The "Hockey With Guns" Edition
February 09, 2022 17:00 - 1 hour - 87.4 MBThis week, Alan, Quinta and Scott were joined by Canadian national security expert, Stephanie Carvin! They talked through some of the week's biggest national security news, both in the U.S. and in our neighbor to the north, including: “Assault on the Capital, Eh? Hold My Labatt Blue.” For the past two weeks, our neighbors to the north have suffered through their own insurrectionary moment, as thousands of protesters have descended on Canadian cities to protest vaccination policies, leading ...
The "Wet February" Edition
February 02, 2022 17:00 - 1 hour - 92.7 MBThis week, Alan, Quinta and Scott were joined by Lawfare senior editor, Roger Parloff! They talked through some of the week's biggest national security news, including: “The Turn Heel State.” North Carolina Congressman Madison Cawthorne has sued to stop a state law inquiry into whether he is disqualified from running for re-election under Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment for participating in the Jan. 6 insurrection, not by disputing the facts, but on due process grounds and in reliance...
The “House of Canards” Edition
January 26, 2022 17:00 - 1 hour - 85.9 MBThis week, Alan, Quinta, and Scott were joined by Lawfare managing editor, Jacob Schulz! They talked through some of the week's biggest national security news, including: “The Shawshank Detention.” The Islamic State attempted a violent jail break of thousands of their confederates this week in Syria. And while U.S.-backed Kurdish forces appear to have contained the damage thus far, the outcome remains far from certain. What does this tell us about the state of the U.S. strategy in Syria? “...
The "C'mon Neil" Edition
January 19, 2022 17:00 - 1 hour - 98.1 MBThis week, Alan, Quinta and Scott were joined by Lawfare's new director of digital media, Claudia Swain! They talked through some of the week's biggest national security news, including: “It’s Not the Motion in the OSHA, It’s the Size of Your Popular Mandate.” The Supreme Court has invalidated the Occupational Safety and Health Administration’s vaccination-or-test mandate for major employers. What will the Court’s decision mean for the Biden administration efforts to combat COVID? “We Met ...
The "Almaty Too Hotty" Edition
January 12, 2022 17:00 - 1 hour - 92.3 MBThis week, Alan, Quinta and Scott were joined by three-peat guest Lawfare executive editor Natalie Orpett! They talked through some of the week's biggest national security news, including: “What’s Almaty You, Eh?” Russia recently deployed forces to nearby Kazakhstan to aid an allied government in putting down a popular uprising. Will this have ramifications for the possible conflict over Ukraine? And what does it say about Russia’s regional strategy? “He’s Talking About Voldemort, Right?” ...
The "Snowmicron" Edition
January 05, 2022 17:00 - 1 hour - 85.9 MBThis week, Quinta and Scott were joined by RatSec 1.0 co-host and Lawfare editor-in-chief Benjamin Wittes! They sat down to discuss the week's national security news, including: “Merrick’s Briefing.” This week, Attorney General Merrick Garland is expected to give a speech about the Justice Department’s efforts to hold the perpetrators of the January 6 insurrection accountable. What do we expect him to say—and what should he say? “The Company You Keep.” Former President Trump recently endor...
The "Miracle on Massachusetts Avenue" Edition
December 29, 2021 17:00 - 1 hour - 94.1 MBThis week, Alan, Quinta and Scott celebrated the impending New Year by answering some questions and sharing some object lessons submitted by Rational Security listeners. They discussed: If you could only have one paid news subscription, which would it be? How do you think the U.S. will respond if Israeli policies towards Palestinians continue to deteriorate? Why does former President Trump's direction to his former associates not to cooperate with the January 6 committee not constitute wi...
The "Party at Nakatomi Plaza" Edition
December 22, 2021 17:00 - 1 hour - 87 MBThis week, Alan, Quinta and Scott were joined by military law expert and Lawfare contributor Michel Paradis! They sat down to discuss the week's national security news, including: “You Want the Boost? You Can’t HANDLE the Boost!” Several states’ governors are refusing to direct their national guards to comply with the Defense Department’s vaccination mandate. Can the federal government make them comply? “If Optimus Prime is Wrong, I Don’t Want to Be Right.” Last week, a U.N. body debated w...
The "Whole Damn System is Out of Order" Edition
December 15, 2021 17:00 - 1 hour - 91.6 MBThis week, Alan, Quinta and Scott were joined by their fellow Lawfare senior editor and Brookings Institution fellow Molly Reynolds! They sat down to discuss the week's national security news, including: “Winners Use Google Slides.” The January 6 committee has revealed some of the texts and emails handed over by former Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows, including a notorious powerpoint presentation laying out apparent plans for a coup. What do these revelations tell us about what happened o...
The "Bad Vlad" Edition
December 08, 2021 17:00 - 1 hour - 93.9 MBThis week, Alan, Quinta and Scott were joined by Lawfare contributor and University of Kentucky law professor Jonathan Shaub! They sat down to discuss the week's national security news, including: “Not So Quiet on the Eastern Front”: President Biden and President Putin recently sat down for a one-on-one meeting, in an effort to curb tensions brought on by Russia’s apparent preparations for an invasion of Ukraine. Are Russia and the United States headed towards conflict? “January 6th Pleads...
The "Holiday Hangover" Edition
December 01, 2021 17:00 - 55 minutes - 76.7 MBThis week, Alan, Quinta and Scott go guestless as they sat down to discuss the week's national security news, including: “Show Me Your Omicron Face”: Scientists have identified a virulent new strain of the coronavirus, leading governments to enact travel bans and other restrictions. What does this tell us about our future living with the virus? “Iran Aground in Vienna?”: A new round of talks seeking to revive the 2015 Iran nuclear agreement kicked off this week. Are the parties stuck or is...
The "Nothing To Be Thankful For" Edition
November 25, 2021 14:09 - 1 hour - 90 MBThis week, Alan, Quinta and Scott were joined by special guest, Quinta's co-host of the Arbiters of Truth series on the Lawfare podcast feed Evelyn Douek! They sat down to discuss: —“Getting Rittenhoused”: A jury recently acquitted 17-year-old Kyle Rittenhouse of murder charges for shooting two men in what he claimed was self-defense during last summer’s unrest. What does his trial and its aftermath tell us about the intersection of politics with our criminal justice system? — “Now That’s ...
Lawfare Presents: Chatter, a new podcast from Shane Harris and David Priess
November 19, 2021 08:00 - 1 hour - 111 MBIntroducing Chatter, a brand new podcast from Lawfare. Weekly long-form conversations with fascinating people at the creative edges of national security. Unscripted. Informal. Always fresh. Chatter guests roll with the punches to describe artistic endeavors related to national security and jump into cutting-edge thinking at the frontiers where defense and foreign policy overlap with technology, intelligence, climate change, history, sports, culture and beyond. Each week, listeners get a no-...
The “SPAAACE LAAAW” Edition
November 17, 2021 17:03 - 1 hour - 93 MBThis week, Alan, Quinta and Scott were joined by special guest, Lawfare chief operating officer David Priess! They sat down to discuss: “In Byelorussia, Everything . . . Everything is Just Awful”: In an effort to hit back over sanctions, the authoritarian regime in Belarus is deliberately admitting refugees only to channel them across its borders with the European Union. How should Europe respond? “Taking ‘Tourist Trap’ Too Literally”: In recent years, foreign governments have taken an unp...
The "Dirty Little Secrets" Edition
November 10, 2021 17:00 - 1 hour - 91.7 MBThis week, Alan, Quinta and Scott were joined by special guest, Lawfare associate editor Rohini Kurup! They sat down to discuss: “I’ll Keep You, My Dirty Little Secret”: The Supreme Court has heard oral argument in not one but two cases relating to the controversial state secrets doctrine this term. Will the doctrine survive Supreme Court scrutiny in its current form? “Coming Home to Roost”: Last week, a Guantanamo Bay detainee’s unprecedented testimony regarding his torture at American ha...
The "Nuclear Tongue Twister" Edition
November 03, 2021 16:00 - 57 minutes - 79.6 MBThis week, Alan, Quinta and Scott were joined by special guest, Rational Security editor Jen Patja Howell! They sat down to discuss: “Our Stand on Havana”: While pressure is building on the Biden administration to take a stand on Havana Syndrome, our understanding of what is happening to U.S. diplomats and other officials remains limited. What should the United States do next? “SupersonicNewBallisticsExquisiteBlastAdocious”: In the last few weeks, China’s unveiled a new supersonic missile ...
The "Very Windy" Edition
October 27, 2021 16:00 - 58 minutes - 79.7 MBThis week, Alan, Quinta and Scott were joined once again by Lawfare executive editor Natalie Orpett! They sat down to discuss: “A Mess in Texas”: Texas’s Republican governor has appointed one of President Trump’s former election lawyers as Secretary of State. Are Trump’s supporters planning to steal the next election, or are Democrats’ concerns overblown? “In Mother Russia, Bear Poke You”: A Russian spy agency is still trying to penetrate U.S. networks, despite clear warnings of repercussi...
The "LinkedOut" Edition
October 20, 2021 16:00 - 56 minutes - 77.6 MBThis week, Alan, Quinta and Scott were joined by Lawfare cyber fellow Alvaro Marañon! They sat down to discuss: “Some Professional News”: LinkedIn is leaving China over the challenges of complying with its strict regulations on social media. Will other companies follow—and should they? “Diamond Joe’s Decryption Key Party”: Last week the White House hosted a summit on combating ransomware—but Russia wasn’t invited. What does it tell us about international efforts to combat cybercrime? “Ho...
The "Choosy Spies Choose JIF" Edition
October 13, 2021 16:00 - 1 hour - 86.8 MBThis week, Alan, Quinta and Scott were joined by Rational Security forefather and Washington Post reporter Shane Harris to discuss: “The Hunt for Bread October”: Which country did a U.S. Navy employee and his wife attempt to smuggle nuclear secrets to inside a peanut butter sandwich? And why did that country turn them over to FBI instead? “Turn After Leaving”: Is the intelligence community executing its own pivot to Asia—and will the post-withdrawal collapse of Afghanistan stymie its effor...
The "What's In The Box?!?" Edition
October 06, 2021 16:00 - 1 hour - 96.1 MBThis week, Alan, Quinta, and Scott were joined by special guest and Lawfare associate editor Bryce Klehm to discuss: "The Problem with Nosy Neighbors": How concerned should we be about the Chinese military getting up in Taiwan’s business—and airspace—over the weekend? "If You Want to be Popular, Don't Go to Law School": Does the Supreme Court’s declining popularity mean it is headed for a legitimacy crisis? And finally: "Now That's Outside-the-Box Financial Planning": What do the recently...
The "Are We Cheugy?" Edition
September 29, 2021 16:00 - 59 minutes - 81.6 MBThis week, Alan, Quinta, and Scott were joined by special guest (and our first-ever undisputed Generation Z guest) Lawfare managing editor Jacob Schulz! They discussed: From the Department of the End of the Republic: Should a recently revealed plan to manipulate the counting of the 2020 electoral votes in President Trump’s favor have us worried about 2024? A Prisoner Dilemma: What should we make of China’s use of hostage diplomacy to secure the release of Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou? And...
The "Milley's Crossing" Edition
September 22, 2021 16:00 - 59 minutes - 82.1 MBThis week, Alan, Quinta and Scott were joined by special guest Lawfare executive editor (and first-time podcaster) Natalie Orpett! They sat down to discuss: The AUKUS Awkwardness: Why does a new U.S.-U.K.-Australia agreement over submarines have France (and China) up in arms? Not Like on J6: What does the "Justice for J6 Rally" flop tell us about the state of right-wing extremism here in the United States and how the media covers it? Milley's Crossing: Did the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs...
The “Everyone Is Wrong” Edition
September 15, 2021 15:57 - 1 hour - 81.9 MBOn this week’s episode, Alan, Quinta, and Scott are joined by the fourth member of their Lawfare senior editor quartet, Brookings Institution Senior Fellow (and first-time Rational Security guest) Molly Reynolds! They sit down to discuss: the legacy of 9/11 and whether we’ve really done everything wrong since (including in Congress); the last tragic drone strike in Kabul that now appears to have killed an Afghan aid worker and his family, and what it tells us about the future of the U.S. dr...
Rational Security 2.0, The "Bloodless Coup" Edition
September 08, 2021 09:00 - 1 hour - 85.2 MBOn this premiere episode of Rational Security 2.0, new hosts Alan Rozenshtein, Quinta Jurecic, and Scott R. Anderson are joined by special guest Benjamin Wittes to discuss: the Taliban's new government and the brutal way it seems to be governing (especially in relation to women); the Biden administration's border policies, and why they're facing trouble in the courts; and our summer from hell: are recent heat waves, wildfires, and floods now a permanent part of the American experience, and w...
A Sneak Peak: Rational Security 2.0: The Next Generation
September 02, 2021 19:37 - 2 minutes - 2.78 MBRational Security 2.0 returns after Labor Day… You can get the rest of this bonus episode, “The ‘Dry-Runs Are for Cowards’ Edition,” by becoming a Lawfare supporter at http://www.patreon.com/lawfare/. And help us plan for our next phase by filling out this survey: https://forms.gle/ga7rUz6QfNSE6NST9.Weekly episodes of Rational Security 2.0 will start returning to this podcast feed after Labor Day… Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
The “I’m Ok Without Friends” Edition
July 28, 2021 23:36 - 6 minutes - 9.06 MBWe’re going to stalk our former Rational Security hosts. We’ll talk about this feed and what we should do with it. And, we’ll chew over how the first hearing of the Jan. 6 commission went. Sort of. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
The Farewell Edition
July 21, 2021 23:27 - 54 minutes - 74.7 MBIt’s our last episode—at least in our current form. We’ll reminisce about our favorite moments, hear from longtime friends and listeners, and share in a final Object Lesson. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
The “We’re Quitting Just in Time” Edition
July 14, 2021 23:13 - 47 minutes - 65 MBHistoric protests rock Cuba. The ripple effects of an assassination linger in Haiti. And a former president warns the consequences of withdrawal from Afghanistan will be “unbelievably bad.” Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
The "Beam Me Up" Edition
July 07, 2021 22:53 - 1 hour - 83.4 MBAt long last, the Director of National Intelligence releases its findings about UFOs. The Trump Organization and its chief financial officers are accused of a 15-year tax fraud scheme. And Russian hackers are at it again, this time launching possibly the largest ransomware attack as well as a strike against the Republican National Committee. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
The "Drugs, Bombs and Bibles" Edition
June 23, 2021 23:07 - 53 minutes - 72.8 MBThe Egyptian government may have assisted a Saudi hit team in the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi, a new investigation finds. Congress debates repealing an authorization for “forever war.” And a judge narrows the lawsuits filed over the clearing of Lafayette Square before a Trump photo op. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
The “Specter or Mirage?” Edition
June 16, 2021 22:52 - 50 minutes - 69.1 MBWorld leaders convene in Cornwall and Brussels as President Biden makes his first official trip abroad. Biden and Russian President Vladimir Putin have a face-to-face meeting in Geneva. And leak investigations aplenty have ensnared journalists, former officials and members of Congress. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
The “I’m Not Saying It’s Aliens” Edition
June 09, 2021 21:22 - 57 minutes - 79.2 MBBibi Netanyahu may be out of a job. Alleged drug lords and contract killers thought they were using a secure messaging app but WOOPS, they were talking to the cops. And there’s no evidence it's aliens, but the USG doesn’t know WTF is flying around in our airspace. Support Rational Security! Don't forget to subscribe to Lawfare's Patreon to get access to the ad-free feed of this podcast and the Lawfare Podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
The “Where’s the Beef?” Edition
June 02, 2021 23:03 - 56 minutes - 77.4 MBViolence escalates in Afghanistan as U.S. troops withdraw. President Biden directs intelligence agencies to look for more evidence that a lab leak may have started the covid pandemic. And a ransomware attack targets the world’s largest beef processor. Plus, special guest Madiha Afzal of the Brookings Institution joins the gang. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
The Isn’t it Grand Jury Edition
May 26, 2021 21:50 - 50 minutes - 69.2 MBThe prosecutor in the Trump criminal probe convenes a grand jury to hear evidence and weigh potential charges. The skyjacking of a commercial airliner over Belarus sparks international condemnation. And a former Saudi intelligence official could spill classified information in a U.S. court. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
The Sedition Commission Edition
May 19, 2021 21:00 - 47 minutes - 65.5 MBFighting intensifies in Israel and Gaza as President Biden pleads for a cease fire. Lawmakers debate setting up a commission to investigate the Jan. 6 attack. And a New York state investigation of the Trump Organization is now exploring potential criminal conduct. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
The "Gas is the New Toilet Paper" Edition
May 12, 2021 22:16 - 54 minutes - 75.1 MBThe death toll rises in Israel and Gaza as a historic wave of violence enters its third day. A ransomware attack leads to the shutdown of a major gas pipeline in the U.S. And the GOP identity crisis enters its latest phase. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
The "Definitely not Indefinitely Suspended" Edition
May 06, 2021 00:20 - 51 minutes - 71 MBPresident Biden says he will raise the cap on refugees admitted to the United States. A federal judge accuses the Justice Department and former Attorney General Bill Barr of misleading her and Congress about the advice he got on whether to charge former President Trump. And an oversight board decides Facebook was right to suspend Donald Trump, but leaves open the question of whether to permanently kick him off the social media platform. Special guest Kate Klonick joins us to discuss! Hosted...