Chronic pain and fatigue in PsA and spondyloarthritis can be challenging. Rheumatologists Dr. Philip Mease (Seattle Rheumatology Associates) and Dr. Ernest Choy (Cardiff University School of Medicine), with patients Melissa and Mini discuss causes, symptoms, risks and tips for managing both successfully. This is the second episode in CAPES (Clinician and Patient Education Series) presented by NPF, GRAPPA, SPARTAN and SAA.