Andrew Frame is the CEO of Citizen, an app meant to help people know more about what’s going on in their community. Citizen has been scrutinized for enabling voyeurs, encouraging people to put themselves in danger, and glorifying crime through livestreaming videos. But Frame said that’s not how Citizen works, and that it actually just helps people stay safe and aware. 

For more on the topics in this episode:

Citizen’s websiteVice’s rundown of the criticism of CitizenMore on Citizen’s COVID-tracking softwareHow Citizen played a role in solving an SF kidnapping

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