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Source Code

243 episodes - English - Latest episode: about 2 years ago - ★★★★★ - 42 ratings

Welcome to Source Code, Protocol's show about the people, power and politics of tech. Twice a week, we talk to the most important people, and about the most important stories, happening all over the world of tech.

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Crypto took over Davos. Now what?

May 29, 2022 03:00 - 45 minutes - 41.2 MB

This week, we dive into tech layoffs: which companies are hiring and firing — and what that means for job-seekers. Then Ripple general manager Monica Long joins us to explain how some companies are trying to make cryptocurrency more sustainable —  and why the crypto crash is so significant. And finally, we discuss an important question: Where should next year’s Davos attendees dine out? For more on the topics in this week's episode: Netflix’s layoffs reveal a larger diversity challenge i...

Should startups be scared?

May 22, 2022 03:00 - 41 minutes - 94.1 MB

This week, we break down why Elon Musk is tweeting about the S&P 500's ESG rankings — and why he might be right to be mad. Then we discuss how tech companies are failing to prevent mass shootings, and why the new Texas social media law might make it more difficult for platforms to be proactive. Then Protocol's Biz Carson, author of the weekly VC newsletter Pipeline, joins us to explain the state of venture capital amidst plunging stocks and declining revenues. Should founders start panickin...

Crypto’s big crash and Zuckerberg’s big bet

May 15, 2022 03:00 - 43 minutes - 99.2 MB

This week, we're diving into the crypto crash. What led luna to fall off a cliff? Are we seeing the dot-com bust, part two? Protocol fintech editor Owen Thomas explains it all to us. Then entertainment reporter Janko Roettgers joins us to share the inside scoop on his exclusive interview with Mark Zuckerberg. We learn why Meta is betting it all on the metaverse and Brian finally gets to ask the most pressing question on his mind this week: What does Mark smell like?  And finally, Caitlin an...

The dangers of data in a post-Roe world

May 08, 2022 03:00 - 45 minutes - 105 MB

This week, we’re talking the tech implications of the Supreme Court's draft ruling on Roe v. Wade, including how Amazon — a company not always synonymous with workers’ rights — has made a major commitment to ensure its employees living in states where abortion could be banned can still access health care. We’ll also explore the new climate misinformation war on Facebook to keep things extra uplifting. Then, Gizmodo reporter Shoshana Wodinsky joins us to explain how data brokers and ad tech f...

So you want to open-source an algorithm

May 01, 2022 03:00 - 39 minutes - 89.3 MB

The Biden Administration set an ambitious climate goal: cutting carbon emissions in half by 2030. That prospect is looking less likely, experts say, and this week we discuss why — and where we go from here. Then Protocol reporter Kate Kaye joins the podcast to explain what it means to open-source an algorithm, and why Elon Musk might run into challenges if he tries to spill Twitter's secret sauce to the public. Kate also teaches us the meaning of the cursed phrase "algorithmic disgorgement"...

Is Elon Musk serious?

April 24, 2022 03:00 - 39 minutes - 35.7 MB

Same Source Code podcast, new sound. This week, Protocol editors and self-proclaimed soft-serve swirl Caitlin McGarry and Brian Kahn are taking over the pod as your new hosts.  This week, we talk about the great streaming shakeup, from Netflix’s subscriber decline to the not-so-surprising CNN+ shutdown. We also dive into tech companies’ favorite climate solution — unfortunately, it doesn’t exist yet. Then Protocol fintech editor Owen Thomas joins us to talk about Elon Musk’s Twitter takeove...

Spotify's betting big on being more than a music service

March 30, 2022 08:00 - 44 minutes - 40.8 MB

Spotify doesn't want to just build a better way to listen to music. (Though, yes, it does want to do that.) The company has made clear over the last couple of years that its ambitions are much bigger: Spotify has invested deeply in podcasting both for creators and consumers, it has delved into the world of audiobook, it acquired a company to build a live-audio product, and in general it wants to be the home of audio online. If you really want to understand where Spotify is going, though, fo...

Live: What "The Great Resignation" really means

March 26, 2022 08:00 - 47 minutes - 44.1 MB

Bringing you a recent Protocol Live, "Recruiting and retaining talent in the new world of work."  The “Great Resignation” has shaken up the tech industry in ways unseen. Employees are leaving their jobs without securing employment and 41% of workers reported at least thinking about leaving their company this year. Not to mention, tech workers have more bargaining power than ever. How do you compete for top tech talent today? And what are the best ways to hold onto your employees in the new...

The ins and outs of whistleblowing

March 23, 2022 08:00 - 44 minutes - 41.2 MB

Frances Haugen. Susan Fowler. Edward Snowden. Erika Cheung. As the tech industry continues to face a reckoning, whistleblowers inside of companies are playing a huge role in bringing important information to light.  Sarah Alexander – everybody calls her Poppy — is a partner at the law firm Constantine Cannon, and works with whistleblowers all over the world. From the first meeting to what she calls the “cold-shower talk” about the hardships that come with going public, Alexander’s job is to...

What tech can — and can't — do to fix climate change

March 19, 2022 00:39 - 25 minutes - 23.7 MB

Protocol Climate launched this week, so we sat down with editor Brian Kahn to talk about tech’s role in solving climate change, whether it’s possible to save the world and get rich at the same time, how to read a corporate climate plan, and much more.  For more on the topics in this episode: Brian Kahn on Twitter How to read a tech company climate plan How to write a climate plan that doesn’t suck The hottest investment in 2021? Climate tech. Startups are popping up to offer carbon off...

Anonymity and the fight for the future of the internet

March 16, 2022 08:00 - 44 minutes - 41 MB

Jeff Kosseff’s last book turned out to be pretty prescient. He published “The Twenty-Six Words That Created The Internet,” a deep look at the history and future of Section 230, right as those 26 words became central to the regulatory fight over the future of the internet. With his next book, Kosseff, a professor at the Naval Academy, may have done the same thing. The book is titled “The United States of Anonymous,” and it deals with the centuries-old argument about whether people should be ...

The future of 230, the end of PowerPoint, and the fight over military tech

March 12, 2022 09:00 - 47 minutes - 43.5 MB

Ben Brody joins the show to discuss the state of the Section 230 debate, and why Justice Clarence Thomas wants it to come up in the Supreme Court so badly. Then, Lizzy Lawrence explains why so many startups are eager to disrupt PowerPoint, and why the future of meetings might be more like a late-night show. Finally, Kate Kaye discusses how enterprise companies are working with the military, and why those relationships seem to be worth the downsides. For more on the topics in this episode: ...

The Mac is back, and other notes from Apple's spring event

March 09, 2022 09:00 - 39 minutes - 36.5 MB

Apple’s latest launch event turned into something of a Mac showcase. And featured much more chip discussion than your average launch event. Protocol’s Caitlin McGarry joins the show to talk about the new Mac Studio, iPad Air, iPhone SE and everything else Apple announced on Tuesday, plus what it all means and why laptops and desktops are suddenly the hottest gadgets on the market.  For more on the topics in this episode: Caitlin McGarry on Twitter Everything Apple announced on Tuesday — W...

How tech responded to Russia — and what happens next

March 05, 2022 09:00 - 53 minutes - 49.1 MB

Issie Lapowsky joins the show to discuss how Meta, Twitter, YouTube and other platforms have responded to the war in Ukraine, and why their response is so much stronger than in the past. Then, Janko Roettgers dives into the rise and fall of RT, and why so many platforms banned the channel. Finally, Nick Statt explains how video games ended up so important to this crisis — along with a brief diversion into Amazon’s gaming strategy, which finally seems to be working. For more on the topics in...

Can Glass build a better Instagram?

March 02, 2022 09:00 - 42 minutes - 39.3 MB

Social networks don’t feel so … social anymore. Instagram, Twitter, Facebook and the rest seem to be leaning ever further into entertainment, and away from helping people find and chat with people like them. But Glass is hoping to be different. The new photo-sharing social network is determined to find a better, less problematic, more social way to network.  Tom Watson and Stefan Borsje, the co-founders of Glass, have both worked in tech for years, and have seen the pitfalls that come to so...

Protocol Live: how to build the metaverse

February 26, 2022 09:00 - 55 minutes - 50.8 MB

Today we’re bringing you another Protocol Live, this one on a subject near and dear to seemingly everyone in tech: how to build the metaverse. And maybe more important, how to build it right. Protocol’s Nick Statt and Janko Roettgers chatted with a panel of smart metaverse thinkers about the tools, standards, systems and rules for the metaverse, and why it matters so much to get them right from the beginning. For more on the topics in this episode: The full live event: How to build the met...

How VR could change the way we hang out – and fall in love

February 24, 2022 09:00 - 41 minutes - 38 MB

Online dating hasn’t been novel for a few years now. It’s now the most common way people meet, and it’s only becoming more central to the way modern romance works. But the next shift is already beginning, as the internet begins to move out of the social networking phase and into whatever this crypto, metaverse, Web3 thing is going to become. Dushyant Saraph, Match’s chief product and revenue officer, is in charge of figuring out what that shift looks like for dating and relationships. That ...

Metamates, Peloton, and the metaverse real estate boom

February 19, 2022 09:00 - 47 minutes - 43.5 MB

Issie Lapowsky joins the show to talk about Nick Clegg’s new job at Meta, what it means for Mark Zuckerberg and Sheryl Sandberg, and what to do about the term “Metamates.” Then Lizzy Lawrence explains what’s next at Peloton, both for the company itself and for the 2,800 people it recently laid off. Finally, Nick Statt explains why metaverse real estate is booming, and what it means for the future of digital spaces. For more on the topics in this episode: Issie Lapowsky on Twitter What Nic...

White Teslas and WedTok: the future is coming for weddings everywhere

February 16, 2022 09:00 - 40 minutes - 37.5 MB

After two years of pandemic-induced cancellations, postponements and overall chaos, the wedding industry is back. The Knot estimates that there will be 2.6 million weddings in the U.S alone in 2022, about half a million more than a typical year. As we’ve all gotten used to hybrid meetings and Zoom happy hours, has tech changed weddings forever, too? Not really, said Esther Lee, a senior editor and wedding expert at The Knot. But tech is changing the way people plan their weddings in a big w...

The all-highlights, gambling-friendly future of sports TV

February 12, 2022 09:00 - 41 minutes - 38.6 MB

It's Super Bowl weekend! And the Olympics! It's a big time for sports fans, and a big time for TV networks everywhere. There's more money in live sports than ever, but at the same time, the market is clearly starting to shift. That change starts with young fans, who would much rather watch and share highlights than sit through three hours of football and commercials.  Buzzer's Bo Han is trying to capitalize on that change, and help leagues and networks alike to adjust to the new reality. He...

TikTok’s favorite matchmaker on dating in a digital age

February 09, 2022 09:00 - 30 minutes - 27.9 MB

You may know Maria Avgitidis as “Matchmaker Maria,” TikTok’s favorite reviewer of dating profiles. She’ll tell you which pictures need to be swapped out, why putting your Instagram handle in your profile is a red flag, and whether you’re sharing too much or too little before you get swiped. Avgitidis is also the owner of Agape Match, a high-end matchmaking company in New York City. For more than a decade, she’s been working with clients to help them find love in an increasing digital, app-c...

Spotify’s Joe Rogan problem, Sony buys Bungie, and Amazon’s union fight

February 05, 2022 09:00 - 48 minutes - 45.1 MB

First, a quick update on tech’s earnings. Then, Issie Lapowsky joins the show to discuss what Spotify can and should do about Joe Rogan, and why platforms keep having the same content issues. Next, Nick Statt explains why Sony bought Bungie, and what it says about the company’s vision for the future of gaming. Finally, Anna Kramer explains what’s happening with the union fight at Amazon warehouses, and the regulation that might be coming. For more on the topics in this episode: Issie Lapow...

Hinge’s CEO wants you out of his app and back into the real world

February 02, 2022 09:00 - 41 minutes - 38.1 MB

Even during a pandemic-fueled period of lockdown and social distancing, dating apps have continued to boom. In part because they’re the only game in town; people can’t meet in bars or mingle at work functions, so they’re turning to apps as a way to find love. In fact, technology sits at the center of dating and relationships like never before. What does that mean a dating app should be? That’s what Justin McLeod, the CEO of Hinge, spends his time thinking about. Hinge has been on a growth t...

Crypto winter, Netflix games, and robot writers

January 29, 2022 14:00 - 52 minutes - 48.9 MB

Ben Pimentel explains why crypto prices are falling, the regulation that has the industry nervous, and whether this is a blip on the radar or a true crypto winter. Then, Janko Roettgers helps us make sense of Netflix’s tough earnings report, and why the company is pushing hard into gaming. Finally, Kate Kaye updates us on the state of AI text generators, and the latest in GPT-3. For more on the topics in this episode: Ben Pimentel on Twitter Crypto winter is coming Ripple CEO Brad Garlin...

How to be yourself in the metaverse

January 26, 2022 09:00 - 39 minutes - 36.5 MB

Who will you be in the metaverse? It’s both a surprisingly philosophical question and a potentially critical one for businesses everywhere, as they continue to design what virtual worlds look like and how we live inside of them.  Akash Nigam has been working on his answers for a while. As CEO of Genies, he’s worked with celebrities like Justin Bieber and Rihanna to create digital avatars they can use for album releases, commercial shoots and to generally be places they can’t physically go. ...

Microsoft buys Activision, antitrust ramps up and 5G gets crazy

January 22, 2022 09:00 - 47 minutes - 43.9 MB

Nick Statt joins the show to discuss Microsoft’s $68.7 billion acquisition of Activision Blizzard, and what it means for the tech and game industries. Then, Issie Lapowsky talks about a big week in antitrust reform, and whether real progress is being made in the U.S. Finally, Hirsh Chitkara explains why AT&T, Verizon, the FAA and airlines have been fighting for months about 5G coverage. For more on the topics in this episode: Nick Statt on Twitter Microsoft's big bet on the future of gami...

The post-password password manager

January 19, 2022 14:00 - 42 minutes - 39.5 MB

Business is booming for 1Password. The company just announced it has raised $620 million, at a valuation of $6.8 billion, from a roster of A-list celebrities and well-known venture capitalists. But what does a password manager need with $620 million? Jeff Shiner, 1Password’s CEO, has some plans. He’s building the team fast — 1Password has nearly tripled in size in the last two years, up to 500 employees, and plans to double again this year — while also expanding the vision of what a passwor...

Wordle, Web3, and four-day workweeks

January 15, 2022 09:00 - 45 minutes - 42.4 MB

Nick Statt joins the show to discuss the rise of Wordle, the subsequent rise of the Wordle clones, and why it’s so easy to copy a game. Then Ben Pimentel chats about the fight over Web3, why Jack Dorsey and Marc Andreessen are at odds, and the killer app for the future of the web. Finally, Allison Levitsky explains some of the big new future-of-work trends, including the four-day workweek and dog-walker perks. For more on the topics in this episode: Nick Statt on Twitter There are scores ...

The online, metaverse-y future of learning

January 12, 2022 09:00 - 39 minutes - 36.1 MB

Nothing about the state of education feels “normal” right now. If you’re a parent, you’re trying to navigate hybrid learning, keeping up with medical advice, dealing with an onslaught of omicron, and trying to make sure your kids keep up through it all. And if you’re an adult, you’re looking for new ways to keep up in a world where every technology, every system, every tool and every job’s basic requirements seem to change all the time. But in the midst of all that upheaval, there’s a real ...

The end of the Theranos trial, and the hunt for Satoshi Nakamoto

December 19, 2021 09:00 - 36 minutes - 33.4 MB

For our last episode of 2021, Biz Carson joins the show to talk about the closing arguments in the Elizabeth Holmes trial, along with what we’ve learned about Theranos and the tech industry in general. Then, Ben Pimentel joins to discuss the CIA’s acknowledgement that it’s working on crypto projects — and why that got everyone talking about the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto, the creator of bitcoin.  For more on the topics in this episode: Biz Carson on Twitter Forget what you know about Th...

Async, not avatars: Slack’s Stewart Butterfield on the future of work

December 15, 2021 17:22 - 39 minutes - 36.5 MB

Stewart Butterfield has a lot of thoughts about how work should work. Which is not exactly surprising, given that he’s the CEO of Slack, and now works for Salesforce, two companies that are at the center of the digital workplace for businesses around the world. He’s seen what the shift to remote-first work has done to many companies, and how digital transformation has changed business’ conception of what “work” even looks like. It all sounds a little philosophical — and maybe it is — but it’...

Super-fast delivery and super-powerful DAOs

December 12, 2021 09:00 - 31 minutes - 29.1 MB

Anna Kramer joins the show to talk about DoorDash’s new 15-minute delivery service, what it takes to move stuff around that fast, and why the industry is obsessed with speed. Then, Tomio Geron discusses the DAOs trying to buy an NBA team, the constitution, movie rights and more, and explains how far DAOs can really go. For more on the topics in this episode: Anna Kramer on Twitter Why is 15-minute delivery everywhere in NYC? DoorDash 15-minute delivery starts with employees Tomio Geron ...

How Matter became the future of the smart home

December 08, 2021 09:00 - 39 minutes - 36.6 MB

For the first time, it looks like the smart home industry is on the path to being … smart. In large part, that’s because most of the companies in the space have decided to work together to support a standard called Matter that governs the way devices talk to each other, and would ensure that devices can interoperate and communicate no matter where they came from. Tobin Richardson is the CEO of the Connectivity Standards Alliance, the organization responsible for creating, certifying and con...

Big Tech’s big job shuffle

December 05, 2021 09:00 - 46 minutes - 42.5 MB

Issie Lapowsky joins the show to discuss Jack Dorsey’s sudden exit from Twitter, the waning cult of the founder, and what’s next for the social network. Then Ben Pimentel joins to chat about why Dorsey wanted to focus on Square, why Square is now called Block, and the company’s crypto-first future. Finally, Ben Brody chats about the confirmation hearings for Gigi Sohn and Alan Davidson, and what happens next in the Meta/Giphy antitrust saga. For more on the topics in this episode: Issie La...

Where everyone’s a CEO and nobody works full time

December 01, 2021 09:00 - 41 minutes - 38.7 MB

Anyone who tells you they know what the future of work looks like is lying to you. For some people, post-pandemic work looks completely different than it once did, while others are already back in the office in roughly the same way as before. But there are big trends, even bigger than the pandemic, around remote work, flexibility, corporate values, and work-life balance, that are disrupting all facets of the workplace. Hayden Brown, the CEO of freelancing platform Upwork, is definitely bias...

Shipping is easy. Returns are a pain. Returnmates has a plan.

November 24, 2021 09:00 - 42 minutes - 39 MB

The shipping industry is not short on new ideas about how to get things to people faster, cheaper and easier. Want a toothbrush and a burrito at your house in 15 minutes? That’s almost certainly doable. And it’s an increasingly competitive space. Eric Wimer and Kristian Zak, the founders of Returnmates, are focused on the other end of the buying process: the returns. They’re trying to build a system that is just as efficient and convenient (and almost as fast) for sending back the stuff you...

Buying the Constitution and repairing your iPhone

November 21, 2021 09:00 - 32 minutes - 15.1 MB

Anna Kramer joins the show to tell the story of ConstitutionDAO, and the crypto fans who tried to buy the U.S. Constitution. Then, Ben Brody explains what’s behind Apple’s new Self Service Repair Program, and whether this is really a huge win for the right-to-repair movement. For more on the topics discussed in this episode: Anna Kramer on Twitter This crypto group plans to buy the Constitution A crypto group raised more than $40 million, but lost an auction Citadel CEO Ken Griffin outb...

Ring's journey to the center of the smart home

November 17, 2021 09:00 - 40 minutes - 37.8 MB

Tech is currently reckoning with its role in the real world, and what happens when our digital and physical lives collide. Jamie Siminoff, the founder and CEO of Ring, has been thinking about that for a decade. Ring has spent the last few years trying to figure out how to balance privacy and safety, what it takes to make people feel comfortable putting tech in their homes (or with the tech their neighbors may have installed), and what it means to be a good citizen. After some high-profile is...

Fake resumes, real metaverses, and letters from Congress

November 14, 2021 09:00 - 41 minutes - 19.1 MB

Anna Kramer joins the show to discuss Elon Musk’s confusing sale of Tesla stock, what a fake resume says about the state of recruiting in tech, and how Apple’s new MacBook Pros have become the hot new software engineer perk. Then, Janko Roettgers breaks down the metaverse: what it is, when it’s coming, what it’ll look like, and the problems we should expect. Finally, Ben Brody explains why members of Congress love writing letters, and why it might be a more effective strategy than you think....

The quest for the travel super app

November 10, 2021 09:00 - 38 minutes - 35.5 MB

Nina Herold does not buy the idea that business travel isn’t coming back post-pandemic. Even with more employees working remotely, even with Zoom and async creeping toward the mainstream, plenty of people will still get on planes, trains and highways to get the job done. That doesn’t mean business travel won’t change, though. Herold, the chief product and operations officer at TripActions, thinks it might change a lot. Rather than travel for sales calls, employees might travel to quarterly ...

Crypto scams, paid vacations, and China exits

November 07, 2021 09:00 - 41 minutes - 38.1 MB

Ben Pimentel joins the show to talk about two cryptocurrencies that kind of seemed like scams — shiba inu coin and squid coin — and why one failed while the other became a $37 billion industry. Then, Michelle Ma explains why “flexible” vacation policies are actually making employees take less time off, and what companies are doing to change that. Finally, Shen Lu digs into why Big Tech companies are leaving China, and what it means for the global tech industry. For more on the topics in thi...

From the Facebook Papers to the metaverse

October 31, 2021 08:00 - 42 minutes - 39.6 MB

All Facebook, all the time! Issie Lapowsky joins the show to talk about what’s in the Facebook Papers, and what it’s like trying to report on them and understand how Facebook works. Then, Janko Roettgers discusses the company’s big rebranding — Facebook out, Meta in — and Mark Zuckerberg’s big-picture plans for the metaverse. For more on the topics in this episode: Issie Lapowsky on Twitter It’s Frances Haugen’s world. We’re all just living in it. Here are all the Facebook Papers stories...

The case for flying cars — and why they’re coming sooner than you think

October 27, 2021 08:00 - 40 minutes - 37.6 MB

Sebastian Thrun was one of the early pioneers of the self-driving car, and spent years working at Google and elsewhere to make autonomous vehicles a reality. Then he ditched the industry entirely and went for something even bigger: flying cars. Except, wait, don’t call them flying cars. Thrun, now the CEO of Kitty Hawk, calls them “electric vertical takeoff and landing aircrafts,” or eVTOLs for short. (It’s not quite as catchy.) But whatever the name, Thrun is betting that they’ll be transf...

Facebook Files, PayPal and Pinterest, Netflix's rocky month, and productivity influencers

October 24, 2021 08:00 - 40 minutes - 37.4 MB

First, a brief update on the Facebook Files, as more stories start to come out. Then, Owen Thomas joins the show to discuss PayPal’s reported interest in acquiring Pinterest, and why that deal might actually make sense for both sides. Janko Roettgers then discusses the good, bad and complicated of Netflix’s last few weeks, before Lizzy Lawrence joins the show to talk about the world of productivity influencers. For more on the topics in this episode: January 6 insurrection and Facebook: In...

Why Coda thinks documents are the internet’s next big platform

October 20, 2021 08:00 - 41 minutes - 37.9 MB

The way Shishir Mehrotra sees it, digital documents haven’t really changed in 50 years. Since the days of WordStar, Harvard Graphics and VisiCalc, the basic idea of what makes up a document, presentation and spreadsheet haven’t really changed. Until now. Now, thanks to companies like Coda — where Mehrotra is founder and CEO — along with Notion, Quip and others, that’s starting to change. These companies are building tools that can do multiple things in a single space, that are designed both...

Live: What's the future for smartphones?

October 17, 2021 08:00 - 54 minutes - 50.6 MB

A recording of a Protocol Live event, “Is there any innovation left in smartphones?” featuring Samsung’s Drew Blackard, The Cyrcle Phone’s Christina Cyr, and Purism’s Nicole Faerber. We talk about sustainability, cameras, batteries, right-to-repair, foldable screens, and much more.  To see the video of this event, or register for upcoming Protocol Lives, check out our events page.

How IPFS is building a new internet from the ground up

October 13, 2021 08:00 - 42 minutes - 39.3 MB

Molly Mackinlay loves the music app Audius, a decentralized tool that is trying to rethink the way artists own their music and interact with fans. She’s a big believer in NFTs, and is looking forward to a world where everything from houses to cars are sold and tracked through the tokens. And she’s definitely excited about the metaverse, as long as it’s “crazy and open and enables all sorts of creation, which doesn’t come from one single company running the metaverse.” In her day job at Prot...

Another bad week for Facebook

October 10, 2021 08:00 - 28 minutes - 26.2 MB

Issie Lapowsky and Ben Brody join the show to talk about the latest in a string of rough weeks for Facebook, including Frances Haugen’s Congressional testimony and Facebook’s surprisingly aggressive pushback. For more on the topics discussed in this episode: Ben Brody on Twitter Issie Lapowsky on Twitter Eight takeaways from Haugen’s testimony on Facebook ‘Beyond the pale’: Former Facebook staffers react to the company’s Haugen spin Developer says Facebook banned him over his 'Unfollow...

Why Microsoft is convinced PCs aren’t dead yet

October 06, 2021 08:00 - 25 minutes - 23.9 MB

PCs are back. After years of what looked like a slow decline into nothingness, the pandemic — and the remote work, school and life it created — turned laptops and desktops into must-have devices. From MacBooks to Chromebooks, virtually everything in the PC category has seen huge growth during the pandemic even with a chip shortage making it hard for companies to keep up. Even computer monitors have never sold so fast. Panos Panay has seen the spike more closely than most. As chief product o...

Finsta hearings, EA games and Epic’s metaverse

October 03, 2021 08:00 - 41 minutes - 38.4 MB

Ben Brody and Issie Lapowsky join to talk about the most recent revelations from the Wall Street Journal’s Facebook Files investigation, plus what we learned — or didn’t learn — from the most recent Congressional hearing with Facebook executives. Then, Nick Statt joins to talk about EA’s huge investment in a mobile future for the gaming industry, and how Epic sees the metaverse evolving. For more on the topics discussed in this episode: Issie Lapowsky on Twitter Ben Brody on Twitter How ...

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