Planet Normal
246 episodes - English - Latest episode: 5 days ago -The podcast that speaks your language. News and views from beyond the bubble with Telegraph columnists, Allison Pearson and Liam Halligan, every Thursday.
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Labour and their Starmtroopers
July 10, 2024 23:30 - 1 hour - 72.5 MBAfter a Labour landslide win (as predicted by your co-pilots) the rocket orbits into a new political galaxy, but is it the same old madness? Allison delivers some hard truths to the Conservative party whom she thinks deserve ‘oblivion’ should they fail to come to the ‘correct conclusion’ on their new leader. Whereas Liam thinks the Tories need to take their time when deciding their next leader and think carefully about the rules of the contest. Joining your co-pilots on the rocket this w...
To the Polls!
July 03, 2024 23:30 - 46 minutes - 53.6 MBThis episode of Planet Normal was recorded on Wednesday the 3rd July before the polls opened for the general election. Six weeks of election campaigning have come to an end and what a campaign it has been, with no shortage of political gaffes on either side of the Channel as the first round of voting in France has National Rally, formerly headed by Marine LePen, on the cusp of power and Macron’s gamble backfiring. Meanwhile across the pond the co-pilots give their thoughts on the debate be...
Heat Wave of Politics
June 26, 2024 23:30 - 58 minutes - 67.3 MBThe temperature is heating up on the rocket this week, as the whole country basks in a heatwave but is the election shade being thrown threatening to spoil your co-pilots fun in the sun? Allison spills the beans on her trip to the campaign trail with Reform UK Leader, Nigel Farage and claims that, in her view, a vote for the party isn’t a wasted one. Whilst Liam is worried about the potential judiciary changes an incoming Labour government might make and the effect they could have on our d...
The Anti-incumbency trend
June 19, 2024 23:30 - 57 minutes - 66 MBWith the rocket hurtling towards the election, what do its inhabitants make of the latest manifesto madness? In light of the latest inflation figures Liam thinks the Conservatives need to be more honest about tax hikes, whilst Allison thinks that Reform’s policies are what should have been in the Conservative Party Manifesto, and might help pull back some disillusioned voters. Also joining your co-pilots for a return mission to the rocket is journalist and the Social Democratic Party cand...
Co-pilots barrage Nigel Farage
June 12, 2024 23:30 - 1 hour - 107 MBIn this episode of Planet Normal, your co-pilots strap into the rocket with Leader of Reform UK, Nigel Farage. In a true rocket grilling Nigel responds to people saying his party is racist, reveals how many votes he expects to win at the upcoming election, and if he really would stand down candidates in Tory marginal seats. Also on this episode with Labour heading for a big majority, what do your co-pilots make of the party manifestos hitting the headlines this week? Liam thinks the Tory m...
Debating the debate
June 05, 2024 23:30 - 1 hour - 68.7 MBWhilst co-pilot Pearson takes a well earned break from the rocket Liam is joined by a temporary co-pilot and fellow right thinker, Baroness Claire Fox. Political fur is flying in wake of the first election television debate, but who do Claire and Liam think came out on top? Claire thinks that the competing parties are underestimating the needs of the electorate in their mandate material. Whilst Liam thinks the parties aren’t doing enough to convince the public of their long term economic ...
The 200th voyage on the rocket
May 29, 2024 23:30 - 1 hour - 112 MBThis special anniversary episode was recorded live in front of an audience of Planet Normal citizens, from Cadogan Hall in London. The beloved rocket gains a few extra passengers this week as our third Planet Normal live event takes off! Your co-pilots give their thoughts on the upcoming election alongside some very special guests. The first revered stowaway on the rocket this week is Lord David Frost, who reveals how he tried to save the Conservative Party from themselves. Also strappin...
A cacophony of woe
May 22, 2024 23:30 - 59 minutes - 68.1 MB**Today's episode was recorded before the General Election announcement** There’s not one but two scandals to comment on this week as both the infected blood and Post office inquiries are front and centre. And both co-pilots share impassioned views about the latest ‘cacophony of woe’ coming from both. Allison thinks that Prime Minister Rishi Sunak’s response was unacceptable in the face of a ‘state sponsored massacre’. Whilst Liam says more eyes should be on the civil service in these inq...
How long before Kevin Spacey is allowed to be uncancelled?
May 15, 2024 23:30 - 1 hour - 74.3 MBIn an exclusive interview with co-pilot Pearson, Academy Award winning actor Kevin Spacey straps into the rocket to give his response to the recent Channel 4 documentary with allegations about inappropriate sexual conduct. Elsewhere Rishi Sunak’s political plight is as unpredictable as the British weather. But what do your co-pilots make of his latest stream of policies? Allison ponders whether the country has ever gone into a general election with two such unpopular potential leaders whic...
A Tory hammering
May 08, 2024 23:30 - 55 minutes - 63.8 MBWith the local elections across England and Wales all over, who were the real winners and losers? And did the Tories really get hammered? Only your co-pilots have the answers. Liam ponders whether the Tory Party can hold it together long enough to get some sort of bounce back from potential impending economic uplifts. Whilst Allison thinks Tory mutiny is no longer a threat and that the plotters have given up all chance of a potential new leader. And what about Reform’s Nigel Farage? Will ...
Wormholes of Woke
May 01, 2024 23:30 - 53 minutes - 61.2 MBElection fever has reached the rocket this week as the co-pilots await the results from local polling stations up and down the country. And there’s nothing short of a tsunami of politics in Scotland. Allison thinks the progressive Left are finally being confronted by the consequences of their policies in light of First Minister, Humza Yousaf’s resignation. Whilst Liam thinks Scotland’s leadership decision will play a crucial part determining Labour’s future in the country. Strapping ...
A protest too far
April 24, 2024 23:30 - 58 minutes - 67.4 MBStrapping into the rocket this week and calling for the resignation of Met Police Commissioner, Sir Mark Rowley, is former Home Secretary and Conservative MP Suella Braverman. She also explains why she thinks it’s time we left the European Convention of Human Rights and her exasperation at her party's 'scramble for the centre-ground'. Elsewhere on the podcast, Allison is convinced the passing of the Rwanda Bill is Rishi Sunak’s desperate last trump card, while Liam asks the question: have r...
The Battle of Brussels
April 17, 2024 23:30 - 54 minutes - 62.8 MBThe Battle of Brussels With co-pilot Pearson making a triumphant return to the rocket this week there’s much madness to discuss including the Cass report, what the Office of Budget Responsibility is really about and some drama from Brussels… Joining your co-pilots to share what really happened at the explosive National Conservative Conference in Brussels is MP Miriam Cates, who explains why the events that unfolded were so chilling for our freedom of speech. Allison also reveals some excl...
The case of the Cass Report
April 10, 2024 23:30 - 59 minutes - 68.6 MBBaroness Claire Fox straps into the cockpit this week to take the helm and tackle the madness alongside co-pilot Halligan. And there's no shortage of febrile pre-election news on the horizon. In light of the publication of the highly anticipated Cass Report, Baroness Fox celebrates the media’s balanced reaction. Liam ponders whether Reform UK could reinvigorate the debate about proportional representation, should they win enough seats in the upcoming local and general elections, whilst Cla...
Not a first class health service
April 03, 2024 23:30 - 58 minutes - 66.8 MBThere’s a lot of madness orbiting the rocket this week as your co-pilots tackle the latest ghastly news from the NHS and author JK Rowling's reaction to the latest SNP legislation, not to mention the redesign of our Union Jack for the Olympics. Allison thinks we could be on the way to a ‘backdoor blasphemy’ law in light of Scotland's hate crime bill. Whilst Liam agrees and is disappointed with the Scottish media’s coverage of the law maker’s decision. Returning to the rocket for his secon...
Tory MP’s for hire
March 28, 2024 00:30 - 59 minutes - 68.6 MBNew immigration figures will be causing another headache for Rishi Sunak and strapping into the cockpit this week is Former Minister for Immigration Robert Jenrick, who reveals the events in the lead up to his resignation and how the PM refused to acknowledge the issue of immigration. As the Tory meltdown continues with more MP’s putting themselves up for hire, could it all be over for the Country’s leading Party before the local elections in May? Allison is convinced the upcoming elect...
Tory MPs for hire
March 28, 2024 00:30 - 1 hour - 68.8 MBNew immigration figures will be causing another headache for Rishi Sunak and strapping into the cockpit this week is Former Minister for Immigration Robert Jenrick, who reveals the events in the lead up to his resignation and how the PM refused to acknowledge the issue of immigration. As the Tory meltdown continues with more MP’s putting themselves up for hire, could it all be over for the Country’s leading Party before the local elections in May? Allison is convinced the upcoming elect...
Four Prime Ministers, 1 Parliament
March 21, 2024 00:30 - 56 minutes - 65 MBWith potential Conservative Party mutiny still bubbling away, there’s a rare moment of disagreement in the Planet Normal cockpit this week over a potential Tory leadership change Liam is convinced that a leadership will make an inevitable election loss much worse, whilst Allison is adamant that with a new ‘proper’ Tory party leader would persuade Conservative voters not to stay home. And co-pilot Pearson shares her outrage at the latest royal drama surrounding the Princess of Wales. All r...
More political tremors
March 14, 2024 00:30 - 54 minutes - 62 MBThere is no rest in the political news cycle this week, but are recent events enough to trigger a political earthquake or just another tremor? In light of Lee Anderson jumping ship from the Tory Party to Reform UK, Allison thinks the Conservatives won't hold onto a single Red Wall seat won in the 2019 election, and worries that everything in our country has a 'social justice agenda’. There’s also time to weigh in on the ongoing Covid Inquiry, which Liam thinks has become a ‘farce’ and wond...
A Spring Budget haunted by the OBR
March 07, 2024 00:30 - 53 minutes - 61.8 MBThe Chancellor has revealed his Budget but the rocket of right-thinking has spotted a shadowy figure on the horizon heading towards Mr Hunt - the Office for Budget Responsibility. Strapping into the rocket to help navigate the nuances is Helen Thomas from Blonde Money, a former advisor to then-Chancellor George Osborne. Helen thinks that the ghost of ignoring the OBR in the now infamous Autumn Budget of 2021 is haunting the current government, and making them over cautious. Liam thinks the...
The Army up in arms over housing
February 29, 2024 00:30 - 38 minutes - 43.6 MBAs co-pilot Pearson is away this week Liam is joined by special guest Telegraph Defence Editor Danielle Sheridan, to discuss the issue of the military housing plan that has barracks up and down the country up in arms, and how Allison and Danielle's reporting sparked a huge response from the Ministry of Defence. Danielle explains to Liam why military personnel are so fed up with their standard of accommodation and why she thinks this issue might be affecting military retention at a time whe...
Don't Panic!
February 22, 2024 00:30 - 58 minutes - 66.8 MBThis episode was recorded before the evening's events in the House of Commons. You can read more here on the Telegraph's live blog: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/02/21/rishi-sunak-latest-news-atkins-labour-snp-gaza/#comment It was a double by-election blow for the Conservative Party as Labour claimed victory in Wellingborough and Kingswood. In what is now a common occurence the third by election next week in Rochdale sees your co-pilots welcome standing candidate George Gallow...
Stick to the plan
February 15, 2024 00:30 - 1 hour - 71 MBGive children brick phones, not smartphones, says this week's guest on the rocket of right thinking, Sophie Winkleman. The Peep Show star gives an insight into her plea to promote screen free learning for children and finds time to share a sprinkling of showbiz gossip on the rocket… Plus your co-pilots experience some déja-vu, as the Tories demonstrate another set of 'barely managed meltdowns.' But is the Prime Minister really ‘sticking to the plan?’ Liam gives his take on the latest sta...
The rise of Reform and 'Pop Con'
February 08, 2024 00:30 - 1 hour - 72.8 MBAs inflation drops, anger on the rocket rises, at the issue of illegal immigration and asylum seekers in light of the shocking chemical attack in London. Plus, where do your co-pilots stand on Liz Truss' ‘Pop Con’? Liam thinks that immigration could well overtake the economy as the number one issue for voters in the upcoming election and closely impending by-elections. Allison feels the rise in smaller groups such as Reform and the new ‘Pop Con’ is merely a reflection of mass frustration a...
The Business of Brexit
February 01, 2024 14:15 - 55 minutes - 63.1 MBThis week your co-pilots are busy celebrating the anniversary of Brexit and the subsequent birth of Planet Normal. But aside from a hit podcast, what does the country really have to show from the referendum? Liam thinks that the people talking down the economy since the referendum often underestimate UK, and that our GDP growth is actually on par with other countries in the EU. Allison meanwhile is seething at another scandal afoot with British universities, which she believes is causing ...
Talk of a Tory regicide
January 25, 2024 00:30 - 1 hour - 70.4 MBJust when the UK has finished surviving a battering from storm Isha Talk of Tory regicide is blowing its way in with storm Jocelyn. It’s safe to say your co-pilots are in for a turbulent week on the rocket. Allison is still in favour of Conservatism which she thinks a leadership change could help encourage, whilst Liam thinks that talk of a possible revolt be put to bed until after the general election, to ‘save the Country’s nervous system’. Will the upcoming by-elections in Wellingboroug...
Exclusive Interview with Fujitsu insider
January 17, 2024 22:00 - 1 hour - 84.8 MBThis episode was recorded before The Rwanda Bill cleared the Commons Strapping into the rocket alongside your co-pilots this week is former Fujitsu employee ‘Robin’ who gives an exclusive inside take on what really went on to cause such a huge miscarriage of justice. Plus, it’s official: the Conservative party has gone full ‘Tonto’ but is Britain's once most reliable party really heading for a breakup? Allison thinks the country is crying out for a more right-wing Conservative Party, and...
New Year, Old Scandals
January 11, 2024 00:30 - 56 minutes - 64.3 MBIt’s business as usual this week as the rocket launches back into action after its Christmas hiatus. And your co-pilots are not short of opinions on the latest scandal. The political and media class are finally waking up to the Post Office Scandal, drawn attention to by the airing of a recent ITV drama and your co-pilots are naturally incensed at the rife injustice of the situation. Allison questions if this could be the UK’s Watergate moment whilst Liam thinks that it's worse because thi...
Best voyages from the festive Rocket 2023: Part 2
January 04, 2024 00:30 - 37 minutes - 42.8 MBIn this the second of a two part series, co-pilots Pearson and Halligan dig into the data files for some of their most explosive voyages on the rocket of right thinking, from 2023. The rocket featured many unique interviews from stowaways from many different worldly professions. In September the rocket also had a visit from former PM Liz Truss who stopped by to tell our co-pilots why current PM Rishi Sunak needs to ditch the 2030 Net Zero target in favour of more traditional conservativ...
Best voyages from the festive Rocket 2023: Part 1
December 28, 2023 00:30 - 34 minutes - 39.3 MBIn this the first of a two part series, co-pilots Pearson and Halligan dig into the data files for some of their most explosive voyages on the rocket of right thinking, from 2023. The rocket featured many guest appearances from big names in politics including previous Home Secretary, Priti Patel, live from the Conservative party Conference in October. She shared her thoughts on the ‘woke blob’ running Whitehall, and her hopes for a Tory victory in 2024. Throughout 2023 your co-pilots have ...
Jingle Bell Rocket
December 21, 2023 00:30 - 54 minutes - 62.8 MBThe bells are ringing, the Christmas spirit has well and truly hit the rocket. Joining your co-pilots in looking back at the highs and lows of 2023 as well as giving their predictions for 2024 is Telegraph columnists Con Coughlin and Tim Stanley. Was 2023 the year of immigration? Is the Tory party as we know it finished? And what’s on the cards for European politics and elsewhere across the world next year? Only this rocket has the answers. Co-pilot Pearson has her gongs at the ready but wh...
When Tory Tribes Go To War
December 14, 2023 00:30 - 59 minutes - 54.2 MBThe Tory tribes are at war over the Rwanda Bill, but who will emerge victorious? One thing is for sure, these party politics aren’t very festive at all… Co-pilot Pearson has polished her crystal ball and is ready to predict which way the party is going to swing in the immigration debate. She thinks there is a huge gulf between the ruling class and the rest of the Country which could allow opportunity for the smaller new parties to thrive. Whilst Liam questions the Country’s movement to the...
Ineptitude masking as progress
December 07, 2023 00:30 - 58 minutes - 53.2 MBThis episode was recorded before the resignation of Immigration Minister Robert Jenrick. The lettuce has returned, could PM Rishi Sunak be heading for a similar demise as his predecessor Liz Truss? And would the Conservative party be mad enough to change leader AGAIN before the next general election? Both your co-pilots place their bets. Meanwhile the Tory Cabinet has snapped into action to reduce the immigration figures following last week’s shock figures. Allison thinks it could be a lit...
Busy getting on with ‘just delivering’
November 30, 2023 00:30 - 1 hour - 56.2 MBIt's been a calamitous week for Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, at least that’s what our co-pilots think with the latest immigration figures hitting a record high. So is he really ‘busy delivering’ as he claims? In light of the shocking riots happening in Ireland, Liam weighs in on the rising concerns about immigration now coming to the forefront in his homeland. He feels the views of the people are not being reflected fairly in the UK media. Whilst Allison’s frustration at the ongoing covid e...
Autumn Statement Special
November 22, 2023 22:00 - 54 minutes - 49.6 MBIt’s budget week on the rocket and the Chancellor Jeremy Hunt has some sizeable tax cuts to pull out of his fiscal stocking. But what do your co-pilots make of the Country’s pre-christmas giveaway? Joining us to navigate this autumn budget is associate editor for the Telegraph Ben Wright, who gives his take on the Chancellor’s statement. Liam thinks the Conservatives have buckled under pressure from the right of the party with sizable tax cuts, and questions where the funding for these cut...
Autumn Statement Special
November 22, 2023 22:00 - 54 minutes - 49.6 MBIt’s budget week on the rocket and the Chancellor Jeremy Hunt has some sizeable tax cuts to pull out of his fiscal stocking. But what do your co-pilots make of the Country’s pre-christmas giveaway? Joining us to navigate this autumn budget is associate editor for the Telegraph Ben Wright, who gives his take on the Chancellor’s statement. Liam thinks the Conservatives have buckled under pressure from the right of the party with sizable tax cuts, and questions where the funding for ...
A controversial Cabinet reshuffle
November 16, 2023 00:30 - 59 minutes - 54.8 MBIt’s been a busy week at No10 with Suella being shown the door and the surprise recycling of David Cameron returning as Foreign Secretary. Could this be the most controversial of all recent cabinet reshuffles to date? Both co-pilots question Prime Minister Rishi Sunak’s decision, wondering whether he has abandoned the faithful Red Wall in favour of appealing to the swing voters and picking up some of the Lib Dems fans. Liam thinks the PM has made a grave error in surrounding himself with p...
The Power and Pain of the Protest
November 09, 2023 00:30 - 51 minutes - 47 MBTo protest or not to protest? The question on everyone's mind this week as the conflicts between Remembrance weekend commemorations and pro- Palestine marches reach a heated conclusion. Your co-pilots weigh in on the power and the pain of both arguments. Liam and Allison are both opposed to the protest going ahead on Saturday with Liam questioning whether the law is being ‘circumvented’. Whilst Allison thinks we could be reaching a tipping point between sensitivity towards different groups...
The Inquiry
November 02, 2023 00:30 - 1 hour - 55.6 MBWith the Covid Inquiry reaching boiling point, your co-pilots dissect the political finger pointing and blame shifting amongst the witnesses. Allison is feeling infuriated and disgusted at the events unfolding, whilst Liam feels it’s simply 'political theatre' and a show trial for people that dislike former PM Boris Johnson. In light of said inquiry, strapping into the rocket this week is Professor of Epidemiology at Oxford University, Carl Heneghan who reveals how he felt ‘ambushed’ and...
365 days on Planet Rishi
October 25, 2023 23:30 - 1 hour - 56.2 MBIt's a whole year since Rishi Sunak took the reins at No10 but has it been more annus horribilis or steady as she goes for Planet Sunak's Premiership? In light of the historic by-election in Tamworth and Mid Bedfordshire, Allison thinks the government have abandoned Conservative voters, and that the Reform party could be poised to steal those disillusioned. Whereas Liam questions whether the outcome will be the same at the next General Election and voters will continue to stay at home whe...
Turmoil continues in Israel
October 18, 2023 23:30 - 56 minutes - 51.9 MBN.B This episode contains content that some listeners may find distressing As the shocking events in the Middle East continue, the rocket reflects on the impact of Israel’s declaration of War on Hamas, and how that can affect the UK and the rest of the world. Liam draws shocking parallels to the Yom Kippur War and thinks there could be a danger of the conflict having a significant impact on oil prices, subsequently leading to the cost of living crisis dragging on for longer than expected. ...
A Glittering Labour Conference
October 11, 2023 23:30 - 59 minutes - 54 MBIt’s an 'alright' from Liverpool this week as the rocket orbits the Labour Party Conference. So, as the glitter settles around Keir Starmer’s speech, and jacket, what do your co-pilots make of the opposing Party’s speeches? Liam thinks the Labour Party leader delivered a ‘blinder’ and is impressed by the Party’s focus on issues such as housing and the cost of living crisis. Allison agrees but ponders if Labour are simply appealing to the many disillusioned Conservative voters. And wha...
Plans for a Post Rishi World
October 04, 2023 23:30 - 59 minutes - 54.9 MBThe rocket beams in live from the Conservative Party Conference in Manchester this week, at the last conference before the next election. And with strikes, and policy gloom on the horizon the mood is surprisingly upbeat. The unexpected jovial mood at the conference isn't swaying Allison who is adamant that voters will be staying home in the upcoming by-elections, and that its leaders and decision makers deserve a period of petenance that might follow a potential epic defeat next ye...
Plans for a Post Rishi World
October 04, 2023 23:30 - 1 hour - 54.9 MBThe rocket beams in live from the Conservative Party Conference in Manchester this week, at the last conference before the next election. And with strikes, and policy gloom on the horizon the mood is surprisingly upbeat. The unexpected jovial mood at the conference isn't swaying Allison who is adamant that voters will be staying home in the upcoming by-elections, and that its leaders and decision makers deserve a period of petenance that might follow a potential epic defeat next year. Whil...
Pre party conference fever
September 27, 2023 23:30 - 1 hour - 55.2 MBAs the Conservative Party conference fever grows, Prime Minister Rishi Sunak appears to be changing his tune with some big amendments in the Party's manifestos. But will it change the state of play in the polls? Staring down the barrel of a potential election whitewash Allison is questioning after thirteen years of rule what the Conservative Party have actually done for the country. Whilst Liam makes a case for the Party’s very representative and multicultural front bench, in light of Home ...
Liz Truss on her ‘pro-growth’ economy and traditional Conservative policies
September 20, 2023 23:30 - 1 hour - 55.6 MBThere’s a sweet taste of retribution on the rocket this week as Prime Minister Rishi Sunak rows back on the green policies that have been intensely scrutinised on the rocket. However, with the smell of burning tyres still fresh in the air is it a rocky road ahead for the Tory Party? Both co-pilots welcome the U-turn but Liam is concerned about who will be paying for net zero, and the economic consequences of easing the targets. Could this shake up ahead of the next General Election appeal t...
Should we be picking on pensioners?
September 13, 2023 23:30 - 54 minutes - 49.5 MBIt’s official the interparty name calling has began, a sure sign that a general election is in the offing. And what’s all this about the triple lock and picking on pensioners? Only your co-pilots have the answers. Allison thinks we should be focusing less on the triple lock and more on the ‘hair-raising’ pay to pensions in the public sector while ignoring those in the private sector without a pension. While Liam thinks the Government should be spending more on those that rely entirely on t...
Back to school, back to politics
September 06, 2023 23:30 - 56 minutes - 51.4 MBThe heatwave is on, the sun is hot but Westminster is hotter as the politicians return, and there’s no shortage of issues on the new term agenda. Allison thinks the Conservatives are making their own concrete boots, and Liam is on hand to break down what exactly RAAC concrete is and why it could be the final nail in the coffin for the Tories. Allison is struggling to find a single politician who is concerned about anything beyond the next electoral cycle and Liam doesn't think anyone wantin...
And they're back...
August 31, 2023 05:00 - 57 minutes - 52.4 MBThere’s a chill in the air and the schools are back, which means Planet Normal is ready to blast off again, and there’s been no shortage of madness to contend with. Both our co-pilots are digesting the conviction of neonatal nurse, Lucy Letby, for the shocking murder of seven babies and question the bureaucratic issues that might have led to such an unthinkable crime. As we steam towards the party conferences, aka the ‘starting gun’ for the General Election next year, our co-pilots examine...
Best bits from the rocket: Part 4
August 23, 2023 23:30 - 35 minutes - 32.5 MBIn this the final of the four part best of the rocket series, our co-pilots take a look back at some of their most explosive voyages on the rocket of right thinking from the year so far. In May, we heard from Planet Normal listener, and professional rowing coach Jane, who shared her despair at the lack of regulations with trans athletes competing against women, specifically in rowing events but also the concerns across all sports. Joining co-pilots Halligan and Pearson for a return voyage ...