Phones Show Chat
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Phones Show Chat episode 659 ("Zac Kew-Denniss and Mike Warner, The Great Flip-Flop!",19/09/2021)
September 19, 2021 06:00 - 1 hour - 31.5 MBPhones Show Chat 659 - Show Notes Steve Litchfield and Ted Salmon with Zac Kew-Denniss and Mike Warner MeWe Groups Join Links PSC - PSC Photos - PSC Classifieds - Steve - Ted Feedb...
Phones Show Chat episode 658 ("JB Walsh, Digital pandemic",12/09/2021)
September 12, 2021 07:00 - 1 hour - 31.5 MBPhones Show Chat 658 - Show Notes Steve Litchfield and Ted Salmon with J B Walsh MeWe Groups Join Links PSC - PSC Photos - PSC Classifieds - Steve - Ted Feedback and Contributions ...
Phones Show Chat episode 657 ("Ewan Spence, Rigid Health",05/09/2021)
September 05, 2021 06:00 - 1 hour - 20 MBPhones Show Chat 657 - Show Notes Steve Litchfield and Ted Salmon with Ewan Spence MeWe Groups Join Links PSC - PSC Photos - PSC Classifieds - Steve - Ted Feedback and Contributions ...
Phones Show Chat episode 656 ("Juan Carlos Bagnell, Dual Decisions",29/08/2021)
August 29, 2021 06:00 - 1 hour - 27.7 MBPhones Show Chat 656 - Show Notes Steve Litchfield and Ted Salmon with Juan Carlos Bagnell (somegadgetguy) MeWe Groups Join Links PSC - PSC Photos - PSC Classifieds - Steve - Ted Feedback and Contributions Microsoft Surface Duo 2 appears in Geekbench with Snapdragon 888 and 8GB RAM Apple launches earpiece speaker replacement program for iPhone 12 Google Shouting About off 3.5mm in YouTube Video Paul Garner on EXIF data in iOS Photos in iOS15 Device Week Apple iPhone 12 Pro Max Mot...
Phones Show Chat episode 655 ("Xperia Three",25/08/2021)
August 25, 2021 07:00 - 43 minutes - 18.1 MBPhones Show Chat 655 - Show Notes Steve Litchfield and Ted Salmon MeWe Groups Join Links PSC - PSC Photos - PSC Classifieds - Steve - Ted Feedback and Contributions Tim Evans on Samsung...
Phones Show Chat episode 654 ("From unbreakable phone to broken SIM tray",21/08/2021)
August 21, 2021 22:00 - 1 hour - 28.6 MBPhones Show Chat 654 - Show Notes Steve Litchfield and Ted Salmon MeWe Groups Join Links PSC - PSC Photos - PSC Classifieds - Steve - Ted Feedback and Contributions Google Pixel 5a 5G - 5a 5G vs 5 vs 4a 5G Tim Evans on OS Poll in MeWe and Apple Event in September Sony Xperia 5ii now UKP599 - Sony Xperia 5ii Gaming Bundle now UKP599 too! Oppo Showcases New Imaging Solutions For Upcoming Devices Motorola Edge 2021 Announced Motorola Edge 2021 vs Motorola Edge 2020 Device Week Apple...
Phones Show Chat episode 653 ("Ian Furlong, Does anything in your pocket Fold yet?",15/08/2021)
August 15, 2021 06:00 - 1 hour - 28.6 MBPhones Show Chat 653 - Show Notes Steve Litchfield and Ted Salmon with Ian Furlong MeWe Groups Join Links PSC - PSC Photos - PSC Classifieds - Steve - Ted Feedback and Contributions ...
Phones Show Chat episode 652 ("Gun proof!",11/08/2021)
August 11, 2021 06:00 - 40 minutes - 19.1 MBPhones Show Chat 652 - Show Notes Steve Litchfield and Ted Salmon MeWe Groups Join Links PSC - PSC Photos - PSC Classifieds - Steve - Ted Feedback and Contributions Anthony Daniels on B...
Phones Show Chat episode 651 ("Mark Hilton, Pixel Precious",08/08/2021)
August 08, 2021 06:00 - 1 hour - 21.9 MBPhones Show Chat 651 - Show Notes Steve Litchfield and Ted Salmon with Mark Hilton MeWe Groups Join Links PSC - PSC Photos - PSC Classifieds - Steve - Ted Feedback and Contributions ...
Phones Show Chat episode 650 ("Marton Barcza, View from the TechAltar",01/08/2021)
August 01, 2021 06:00 - 1 hour - 30.5 MBPhones Show Chat 650 - Show Notes Steve Litchfield and Ted Salmon with Marton Barcza MeWe Groups Join Links PSC - PSC Photos - PSC Classifieds - Steve - Ted Feedback and Contributions Julian Lambert on Realme Updates Feedback about APK Files How important are Android's customization options to you? Surface Duo 2 With Huge Camera Lump Leaked Info! Android 12 Beta 3.1 Arrived Nokia launches the XR20, Ruggedised, Fully-Featured UKP399 at Nokia UK 29th July Shipping Moto Edge 20 Even...
Phones Show Chat episode 649 ("Tayo Olasope, Laggy Ultra",25/07/2021)
July 25, 2021 06:00 - 1 hour - 30.5 MBPhones Show Chat 649 - Show Notes Steve Litchfield and Ted Salmon with Tayo Olasope MeWe Groups Join Links PSC - PSC Photos - PSC Classifieds - Steve - Ted Feedback and Contributions...
Phones Show Chat episode 648 ("OnePlus 9 equals 10, duh!",18/07/2021)
July 18, 2021 07:00 - 1 hour - 26.7 MBPhones Show Chat 648 - Show Notes Steve Litchfield and Ted Salmon MeWe Groups Join Links PSC - PSC Photos - PSC Classifieds - Steve - Ted Feedback and Contributions Paul Grainger on Sam...
Phones Show Chat episode 647 ("Rory Cellan-Jones, Always On: Hope and Fear",11/07/2021)
July 11, 2021 07:00 - 1 hour - 33.4 MBPhones Show Chat 647 - Show Notes Steve Litchfield and Ted Salmon with Rory Cellan-Jones MeWe Groups Join Links PSC - PSC Photos - PSC Classifieds - Steve - Ted Feedback and Contributions Babul Mohanty on Micro SD card, 3.5mm Jack & Capacitive FPS Vivo V21 5G released in the UK Choetech is the latest budget electronics brand to disappear from Amazon A Tribute To Nokia 8 Sirocco As It Gets Its Last Update Pixel 6-Series to Offer 5 Years of Support OnePlus and OPPO Announce Extended ...
Phones Show Chat episode 646 ("Ian Barton, Drones and Phones",04/07/2021)
July 04, 2021 07:00 - 1 hour - 23.8 MBPhones Show Chat 646 - Show Notes Steve Litchfield and Ted Salmon with Ian Barton MeWe Groups Join Links PSC - PSC Photos - PSC Classifieds - Steve - Ted Feedback and Contributions ...
Phones Show Chat episode 645 ("More than a smartphone?",27/06/2021)
June 27, 2021 07:00 - 58 minutes - 28.6 MBPSC is helped this week by Noreve, makers of luxury leather cases and accessories - see their front page for '15%-20% off' offers! Phones Show Chat 645 - Show Notes Steve Litchfield and Ted Salmon MeWe Groups Join Links PSC - PSC Photos - PSC Classifieds - Steve - Ted Feedback and Contributions A Question of Phone Batteries, Bluetooth vs Wired Frank Niethardt on Monopolies and Typing Pip Tomlinson on Crash Detection Android 12 Beta 2.1 rolling out with Pixel bug fixes Device Wee...
Phones Show Chat episode 644 ("Jon Bentley, From mist to blue sky!",20/06/2021)
June 20, 2021 07:00 - 1 hour - 30.5 MBPhones Show Chat 644 - Show Notes Steve Litchfield and Ted Salmon with Jon Bentley (The Gadget Show on YouTube) MeWe Groups Join Links PSC - PSC Photos - PSC Classifieds - Steve - T...
Phones Show Chat episode 643 ("Tim Evans, Integration and Outliers",13/06/2021)
June 13, 2021 06:00 - 1 hour - 32.4 MBPSC is helped this month by Noreve, makers of luxury leather cases and accessories - see their front page for '15% off' offers! Phones Show Chat 643 - Show Notes Steve Litchfield and Ted Salmon with Tim Evans MeWe Groups Join Links PSC - PSC Photos - PSC Classifieds - Steve - Ted Feedback and Contributions Chris Kelly on NexDock, Dex, Ready For Steve’s iOS 15 Summary Pixel June Feature Drop Android 12 Beta 2 Understanding lossless, high-resolution, and spatial audio - Steve’s Co...
Phones Show Chat episode 642 ("It's a phone, it's a laptop, it's a... what?",06/06/2021)
June 06, 2021 06:00 - 56 minutes - 28.6 MBPSC is helped this month by Noreve, makers of luxury leather cases and accessories - see their front page for '15% off' offers! Phones Show Chat 642 - Show Notes Steve Litchfield and Ted Salmon MeWe Groups Join Links PSC - PSC Photos - PSC ...
Phones Show Chat episode 641 ("Ed Hause, Plugging in the DxO One",30/05/2021)
May 30, 2021 06:00 - 1 hour - 30.5 MBPSC is helped this month by Noreve, makers of luxury leather cases and accessories - see their front page for '15% off' offers! Phones Show Chat 641 - Show Notes Steve Litchfield and Ted Salmon with Ed Hause MeWe Groups Join Links PSC - PSC Photos - PSC Classifieds - Steve - Ted Feedback and Contributions Jon Satherley Audio Insert on NexDock Touch Trystan Gruffudd and Others on iPhone Batteries Xiaomi Poco M3 Pro 5G Adrian Brain on Aperture Control and Cameras in Phones Device We...
Phones Show Chat episode 640 ("Bart Busschots, Avoiding phones with an 's' in the name?",23/05/2021)
May 23, 2021 06:00 - 1 hour - 36.2 MBPSC is helped this month by Noreve, makers of luxury leather cases and accessories - see their front page for '15% off' offers! Phones Show Chat 640 - Show Notes Steve Litchfield and Ted Salmon with Bart Busschots MeWe Groups Join Links PSC - PSC...
Phones Show Chat episode 639 ("Android 360!",19/05/2021)
May 19, 2021 13:00 - 45 minutes - 22.9 MBPhones Show Chat 639 - Show Notes Steve Litchfield and Ted Salmon MeWe Groups Join Links PSC - PSC Photos - PSC Classifieds - Steve - Ted Mid-Week Topics What’s New in Android 12 Bet...
Phones Show Chat episode 638 ("Bulging at the seams",15/05/2021)
May 15, 2021 07:00 - 1 hour - 29.6 MBPSC is helped this month by Noreve, makers of luxury leather cases and accessories - see their front page for '15% off' offers! Phones Show Chat 638 - Show Notes Steve Litchfield and Ted Salmon MeWe Groups Join Links PSC - PSC Photos - PSC ...
Phones Show Chat episode 637 ("Sharpening the Razer's Edge",09/05/2021)
May 09, 2021 07:00 - 1 hour - 30.5 MBPhones Show Chat 637 - Show Notes Steve Litchfield and Ted Salmon with Mike Warner MeWe Groups Join Links PSC - PSC Photos - PSC Classifieds - Steve - Ted Feedback Motorola ...
Phones Show Chat episode 636 ("Chris Kelly, Different folks, different imaging strokes",02/05/2021)
May 02, 2021 07:00 - 1 hour - 30.5 MBPhones Show Chat 636 - Show Notes Steve Litchfield and Ted Salmon with Chris Kelly MeWe Groups Join Links PSC - PSC Photos - PSC Classifieds - Steve - Ted Feedback Richard Warriner o...
Phones Show Chat episode 635 ("Phone cam or DSLR? A trick question!",25/04/2021)
April 25, 2021 07:30 - 1 hour - 33.4 MBPhones Show Chat 635 - Show Notes Steve Litchfield and Ted Salmon MeWe Groups Join Links PSC - PSC Photos - PSC Classifieds - Steve - Ted Feedback DSLR vs Camera Phone, 2021 - Are We There, Yet? New TCL Phones Announced TCL 20 Pro - Ted's TCL 10 Pro Review Wireless vs Wired Charging Poll Google Pixel's Now Playing has been ported to other Android devices Bob Higgie's SI Rant Low-End Galaxy Made for India Coming to the UK for UKP159 Samsung Galaxy M12 vs Moto G30 Android 12 to A...
Phones Show Chat episode 634 ("Jon Trimmer, iOS lock versus Android carousel",18/04/2021)
April 18, 2021 06:30 - 1 hour - 33.4 MBPhones Show Chat 634 - Show Notes Steve Litchfield and Ted Salmon with Jon Trimmer MeWe Groups Join Links PSC - PSC Photos - PSC Classifieds - Steve - Ted Feedback Sony ...
Phones Show Chat episode 633 ("Ed Hause, Chocks Away!",11/04/2021)
April 11, 2021 06:50 - 1 hour - 32.4 MBPhones Show Chat 633 - Show Notes Steve Litchfield and Ted Salmon with Ed Hause MeWe Groups Join Links PSC - PSC Photos - PSC Classifieds - Steve - Ted Feedback Chats and Groups Head for GMail LG Gone - It's Official LG Mobile Officially Shuts Down, Ends 15 Years in Smartphones LG Promises 3 Years of Android Updates Recent Pixel 5 Update Improves GPU Gaming Performance Android 12 Beta 1 Now Coming in May Nokia X10 and X20 - G20 and G10 ZTE Axon 30 Ultra or Pro+ Sony Event on 14...
Phones Show Chat episode 632 ("New Mis and an Android dilemma",04/04/2021)
April 04, 2021 06:50 - 1 hour - 30.5 MBPhones Show Chat 632 - Show Notes Steve Litchfield and Ted Salmon MeWe Groups Join Links PSC - PSC Photos - PSC Classifieds - Steve - Ted Feedback Xiaomi Mi Mix Fold ...
Phones Show Chat episode 631 ("Mark Swidler, The Search Goes On",28/03/2021)
March 28, 2021 06:50 - 1 hour - 32.4 MBPhones Show Chat 631 - Show Notes Steve Litchfield and Ted Salmon with Mark Swidler MeWe Groups Join Links PSC - PSC Photos - PSC Classifieds - Steve - Ted Feedback Doogee S59 Pro OnePlus 9 vs OnePlus 9 Pro OnePlus 9 Review at GSMArena Poco F3 vs Poco X3 Pro Poco X3 Pro Review at GSMArena Black Shark 4 and 4 Pro Released Black Shark 4 vs Black Shark 4 Pro Juho Sarvikas Leaving HMD Moto G100 Device Week Pixel 5 - Pixel 3 - Pixel 4a 5G Harman Kardon Invoke Motorola Edge vs Ed...
Phones Show Chat episode 630 ("James Honeyball, It's all about feel",21/03/2021)
March 21, 2021 07:50 - 1 hour - 32.4 MBPhones Show Chat 630 - Show Notes Steve Litchfield and Ted Salmon with James Honeyball MeWe Groups Join Links PSC - PSC Photos - PSC Classifieds - Steve - Ted Feedback Older ...
Phones Show Chat episode 629 ("Malcolm Bryant, Magic and Doze",14/03/2021)
March 14, 2021 07:50 - 1 hour - 33.4 MBPhones Show Chat 629 - Show Notes Steve Litchfield and Ted Salmon with Malcolm Bryant (Freepoc) MeWe Groups Join Links PSC - PSC Photos - PSC Classifieds - Steve - Ted Feedback Why Nobody buys LG Smartphones Mike Warner on Huawei P50 Release with HarmonyOS Xiaomi Mi 10S Debuts - dxomark Audio Test Asus ROG Phone 5 Unveiled - Launch Event ROG Phone 5 vs 5 Pro vs 5 Ultimate Zenfone 8 (and maybe even 8 Mini) around the corner Pixel's Google Fit Now Allowing Pulse/Respiration Devic...
Phones Show Chat episode 628 ("e OS and Huawei experiments",07/03/2021)
March 07, 2021 07:50 - 1 hour - 31.5 MBPhones Show Chat 628 - Show Notes Steve Litchfield and Ted Salmon with Mike Warner MeWe Groups Join Links PSC - PSC Photos - PSC Classifieds - Steve - Ted Feedback Steve's ...
Phones Show Chat episode 627 ("Dan Carter, Strung up with Android",28/02/2021)
February 28, 2021 08:50 - 1 hour - 31.5 MBPhones Show Chat 627 - Show Notes Steve Litchfield and Ted Salmon with Dan Carter MeWe Groups Join Links PSC - PSC Photos - PSC Classifieds - Steve - Ted Feedback Malcolm Bryant explains Android Doze Steve Nutt on Get Notified Quicker In Android Frank Niethardt on Samsung’s Four Year Promise Tayo Olasope on 1440p vs 1080p vs 720p Pixel 4a 5G back up to £499 Leaks about the Google Pixel Fold Device Week Pixel 5 - Pixel 3 - Pixel 4a 5G Sony Xperia 5 II - Sony Xperia 5 v 5 II Spec...
Phones Show Chat episode 626 ("Ian Furlong, Windows Mobile to Samsung's stylus-packing Android",21/02/2021)
February 21, 2021 08:50 - 1 hour - 31.5 MBPhones Show Chat is helped out by Noreve - luxury leather tough cases for your smartphone - look out for promos and codes on their front page! Phones Show Chat 626 - Show Notes Steve Litchfield and Ted Salmon with Ian Furlong MeWe Groups Join Links ...
Phones Show Chat episode 625 ("Small to Large, Cheap to Crazy",13/02/2021)
February 13, 2021 09:00 - 58 minutes - 28.6 MBPhones Show Chat is helped out by Noreve - luxury leather tough cases for your smartphone - look out for promos and codes on their front page! Phones Show Chat 625 - Show Notes Steve Litchfield and Ted Salmon MeWe Groups Join Links PSC ...
Phones Show Chat episode 624 ("Mike Warner, Snapdragon and Exynos commonality",07/02/2021)
February 07, 2021 08:00 - 1 hour - 30.5 MBPhones Show Chat 624 - Show Notes Steve Litchfield and Ted Salmon with Mike Warner MeWe Groups Join Links PSC - PSC Photos - PSC Classifieds - Steve - Ted Feedback ...
Phones Show Chat episode 623 ("Satisfying the Samsung itch",02/02/2021)
February 02, 2021 20:00 - 48 minutes - 22.9 MBPhones Show Chat 623 - Show Notes Steve Litchfield and Ted Salmon MeWe Groups Join Links PSC - PSC Photos - PSC Classifieds - Steve - Ted Feedback iOS App now w...
Phones Show Chat episode 622 ("Damian Dinning, Tales from Nokia imaging",31/01/2021)
January 31, 2021 09:00 - 1 hour - 28.6 MBPhones Show Chat 622 - Show Notes Steve Litchfield and Ted Salmon with Damian Dinning MeWe Groups Join Links PSC - PSC Photos - PSC Classifieds - Steve - Ted Feedback PhoneINFO *SAM* Chris Kelly on 3D sound, Reality Audio and Dolby David Hewitt, Scott Brady and Tayo Olasope on Samsung Galaxy S21 Range Motorola Edge S Now Announced Device Week iPhone 12 Pro Max Live Draw We make a draw for smartphone accessories each weekend. Do get involved before the next draw by joining the Vi...
Phones Show Chat episode 621 ("Steve Nutt, LiDAR to the rescue!",24/01/2021)
January 24, 2021 07:00 - 1 hour - 32.4 MBPhones Show Chat 621 - Show Notes Steve Litchfield and Ted Salmon with Steve Nutt Phones Show Chat is helped out by Noreve - luxury leather tough cases for your smartphone - look out for promos and codes on their front page! MeWe Groups Join Links ...
Phones Show Chat episode 620 ("Lineage, Ubuntu Touch, Sailfish",17/01/2021)
January 17, 2021 07:00 - 1 hour - 32.4 MBPhones Show Chat 620 - Show Notes Steve Litchfield and Ted Salmon with Mike Warner (Mike's Tech Life) MeWe Groups Join Links PSC - PSC Photos - PSC Classifieds - Steve - Ted Feedb...
Phones Show Chat episode 619 ("Zoe Kleinman, plus size debates!",09/01/2021)
January 09, 2021 20:00 - 59 minutes - 28.6 MBPhones Show Chat 619 - Show Notes Steve Litchfield and Ted Salmon with Zoe Kleinman (Twitter) MeWe Groups Join Links PSC - PSC Photos - PSC Classifieds - Steve - Ted Feedback Mike Sc...
Phones Show Chat episode 618 ("Smartphone baseline for 2021",03/01/2021)
January 03, 2021 07:00 - 51 minutes - 25.7 MBPhones Show Chat 618 - Show Notes Steve Litchfield and Ted Salmon MeWe Groups Join Links PSC - PSC Photos - PSC Classifieds - Steve - Ted Feedback Pete Shepherd on Seeing AI - Sounds...
Phones Show Chat episode 617 ("Not Quite The End. Of 2020...",27/12/2020)
December 27, 2020 19:00 - 55 minutes - 26.7 MBPhones Show Chat 617 - Show Notes Steve Litchfield and Ted Salmon MeWe Groups Join Links PSC - PSC Photos - PSC Classifieds - Steve - Ted Feedback Motorola won'...
Phones Show Chat episode 616 ("Mike Warner, Four More Years (of Android updates)!",20/12/2020)
December 20, 2020 07:00 - 1 hour - 29.6 MBPhones Show Chat is helped out by Noreve - luxury leather tough cases for your smartphone - look out for promos and codes on their front page! Phones Show Chat 616 - Show Notes Steve Litchfield and Ted Salmon with Mike Warner MeWe Groups Join Links ...
Phones Show Chat episode 615 ("Fan Editions, Samsung and Google on the ascendant?",12/12/2020)
December 12, 2020 21:00 - 1 hour - 32.4 MBPhones Show Chat 615 - Show Notes Steve Litchfield and Ted Salmon MeWe Groups Join Links PSC - PSC Photos - PSC Classifieds - Steve - Ted Feedback Robert Macrowan on Xiaomi and Google Discover...
Phones Show Chat episode 614 ("The curious case of the ever-growing smartphone",06/12/2020)
December 06, 2020 08:00 - 1 hour - 32.4 MBPhones Show Chat is helped out by Noreve - luxury leather tough cases for your smartphone - look out for promos and codes on their front page! Case reviews coming soon... Phones Show Chat 614 - Show Notes Steve Litchfield and Ted Salmon with Zac ...
Phones Show Chat episode 613 ("Life goes on... with Some Gadget Guy",29/11/2020)
November 29, 2020 09:00 - 1 hour - 29.6 MBPhones Show Chat is helped out by Noreve - luxury leather tough cases for your smartphone - look out for promos and codes on their front page! Case reviews coming soon... Phones Show Chat 613 - Show Notes Steve Litchfield and Ted Salmon with Juan Carlos Bagnell (somegadgetguy) MeWe Groups Join Links PSC - PSC Photos - PSC Classifieds - Steve - Ted Feedback Tilan de Costa Phone Choice - Sony or Samsung Ismail Lawomtong on Phone Choice - Good New or Great Old Marshall Major III Blueto...
Phones Show Chat episode 612 ("A POCO sort of day",25/11/2020)
November 25, 2020 08:00 - 29 minutes - 15.3 MBPhones Show Chat 612 - Show Notes Steve Litchfield and Ted Salmon MeWe Groups Join Links PSC - PSC Photos - PSC Classifieds - Steve - Ted Feedback Frank Niethardt on the iPhone 12 mini St...
Phones Show Chat episode 611 ("Michael Hell, Parallel Options",22/11/2020)
November 22, 2020 06:00 - 58 minutes - 26.7 MBPhones Show Chat 611 - Show Notes Steve Litchfield and Ted Salmon with Michael Hell MeWe Groups Join Links PSC - PSC Photos - PSC Classifieds - Steve - Ted Feedback Gav's Supcase Roundup - Gavin's Gadgets Steve's Case Roundups iPhone 12/12 Pro Case Roundup Marcus France on iPhone/iPad Switching Mark Finlay on Samsung Galaxy S20 FE Marek Pawlowski In Praise In Praise of Imperfect Phones Device Week Pixel 5 Samsung Galaxy S20 FE iPhone 12 Pro Max Imaging Head to Head with the Lu...
Phones Show Chat episode 610 ("Subjective Smartphoning",17/11/2020)
November 17, 2020 22:00 - 33 minutes - 18.1 MBPhones Show Chat 610 - Show Notes Steve Litchfield and Ted Salmon MeWe Groups Join Links PSC - PSC Photos - PSC Classifieds - Steve - Ted Feedback Glen Thorpe on Samsung One UI 3 ...