Perry and Shawna
825 episodes - English - Latest episode: 3 days ago - ★★★★★ - 3 ratingsThe Perry and Shawna Podcast: Real life conversations reminding you that you’re Abba’s child and that you’re blessed to be a blessing and loved to share Jesus’ love.
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Miraculous Move of God in Pakistan!
March 11, 2022 16:54 - 33 minutes - 30.5 MBThe dark is getting darker—something you know all too well. But the light is getting brighter. That’s something we LOVE to share on Perry and Shawna Mornings. Today Greg Kelley of World Mission joins the team, just back from Pakistan, to share how the light of Jesus is piercing the darkness in Pakistan. First, the 13 year old boy living in a dump who spoke for the first time in 10 years as he heard the gospel! Then, the Muslim man who had a dream that he’d be healed. Next day he was superna...
America’s Sexual Revolution Victims—Our Kids
March 10, 2022 12:40 - 26 minutes - 24.5 MBThe sexual revolution that started in the 60’s is leaving a path of destruction, and it’s our kids who are suffering most. John Stonestreet, President of the Colson Center for Christian Worldview joins the team to paint a picture of the carnage and to point the way to how we can partner with God to heal and restore. First, John knew everything about the bible but he didn’t know Jesus. Then, faith is not a blind leap off a cliff, the evidence screams, “There is a God, the resurrection happen...
Fleeing Ukrainians
March 09, 2022 12:38 - 24 minutes - 22.1 MBVeteran journalist and host of Haven Today, Charles Morris is in Krakow, Poland, 2 hours from the Ukrainian border with a riveting and sobering look at the greatest crisis in Europe since World War II. First, the German man and his 2 children who traveled 12 hours to the border, with their grill, to feed 1200 brats to the refugees! Then, every person in Europe Charles has met is calling Mr. Putin, “Hilter.” Next, at the border Charles saw love colliding between fleeing Ukrainians and rescui...
What Does the Bible Say About the Future?
March 08, 2022 12:58 - 35 minutes - 32.4 MBIf you know who holds the future and that He will one day “make all the sad things come untrue,” you have an anchor no matter how crazy life gets. Dr. Charlie Dyer, Moody Bible Institute professor and host of The Land and the Book joins the team to talk about his book What Does the Bible Say About the Future? First, Charlie shares how Jesus messed with his perfect life plan! Then, God at work in Israel’s return to the land and in the thousands of Jews in the land who are now following Jesus...
His Love is Enough (Why Don’t I Live as if It’s True?)
March 07, 2022 12:35 - 19 minutes - 17.8 MBWe have the silver bullet—it’s the way you can be the most secure person in the world; it’s the way to have an unshakeable identity. If you grasp this you’ll never have to spend another moment of your life proving yourself! Then, Shawna and her family had just moved to Arizona. She and her husband Dan had a passion to reach their neighbors with Jesus’ love. And a battle between her 2 kids on her front porch just a few days in seemed to have ruined it all! It’s a conversation about the danger...
#Freedom!
March 04, 2022 20:22 - 31 minutes - 28.4 MBIt’s Freedom Friday and we’re celebrating the amazing-ness of Jesus’ love! First, Perry and Shawna Mornings listener Kristen makes a great call: “Throw out your computer generated song and play Charity Gayle’s You Have Made Me Glad!” Then author York Moore had decided that life has no meaning and decided to end it all. He sped up to 90 on the freeway, then steered toward a cement wall. Next, Perry and Shawna Mornings listener Caty shares how Jesus revealed himself to her as a little girl in...
The 5 Apology Languages 2.0
March 03, 2022 12:40 - 23 minutes - 21.4 MBWhen you get a chance to have a Jedi Master like Dr. Gary Chapman on the show, why not have him two days in a row? Dr. Chapman joins our team with another dive into how to apologize in a way that restores, renews, even resurrects broken relationships. It’s all about the power of The Five Apology Languages. First, Shawna bounces her theory off Gary: that God’s love language is obedience. Gary won’t give a straight answer and Shawna’s not having it! Kidding. Next, a husband broke trust with hi...
The 5 Apology Languages
March 02, 2022 12:45 - 17 minutes - 16.5 MBIn our culture where politics have divided families, where friendships are destroyed because “You’re wrong and I’m right!” Where cancel culture thrives, where trust is broken in marriages; we need to find our way back to each other! Dr. Gary Chapman, best-selling author of The Five Love Languages joins the team to show us the way back—apologizing to the one we’ve hurt in a way that compelling connects. It’s a conversation about his book The Five Apology Languages: The Secret to Healthy Relat...
Keep Ukraine Free!
March 01, 2022 12:42 - 32 minutes - 29.7 MBTyranny has raised its ugly head. Ukraine has been invaded by a man who wants to take over a free country. He wants it to increase his power. Clearly evil is in play. But we know God is working as well. Ivan is a Messianic Jew who’s a pastor and professor in Ukraine. And he helps us see what’s going on in Ukraine in real time. First, 30 to 40 year old Ukrainian soldiers are capturing 18-year-old Russian soldiers. Seeing their young faces keeps them from hating Russians. Then, Ukrainian beli...
I Just Can’t Forgive
February 28, 2022 18:27 - 26 minutes - 23.9 MBDeep in his heart Imed, a devout follower of Islam knew that even if he prayed for a thousand years, he probably wouldn’t make it into paradise. Muslims are working hard to earn God’s approval, but we too as followers of Jesus can fall into trying to earn it. Then, just yesterday God brought to mind someone Shawna needed to forgive. It’s a conversation about what forgiving someone looks like. And what it doesn’t look like (it’s not letting someone off the hook). Next, Perry’s strategy for ge...
Spiritual Awakening in Israel!
February 25, 2022 13:22 - 35 minutes - 32.4 MBA spiritual awakening is just getting started in Israel! In the past 6 years the gospel has been viewed 36 million times by Hebrew speaking Jews through One For Israel’s creative content! Anastasia from OFI joins the team to give us the latest on what God is doing! First, we really haven’t seen anything like this in Israel since the first century. Then, Anastasia, a Russian Jew, shares how Jesus’ love for women was one of the ways He won her heart. Next, the ultra-orthodox Jewish Rabbi who h...
Where Self-Help Ends and God’s Power Begins
February 24, 2022 16:11 - 30 minutes - 27.7 MBIf your journey with Jesus feels like pushing a massive boulder up a hill in your own strength, it’s time for a reset. Karl Clauson joins the team to show us what it looks like to live in God’s strength and not our own. Karl hosts Karl & Crew Mornings for Moody Radio in Chicago and is author The 7 Resolutions: Where Self-Help Ends and God’s Power Begins. First, Karl shares how grace crashed into him. Then 3 weeks after Jesus transformed him, he stumbled big time and thought it was over befo...
How God Grows Us Up
February 23, 2022 12:30 - 26 minutes - 24 MBShawna can feel like she’s been left behind, especially when she looks at social media and sees other women just crushing it. But she’s learning that if she keeps her eyes on Jesus, she isn’t behind at all, she’s right where she belongs. Then, the ways Jesus has grown Perry in his journey: By experiencing Jesus’ furious love, through being blind-sided by life, through his failures, through feeling forsaken by God, through the accusations of the enemy, through closed doors, through scars that...
Follow the Rabbi
February 22, 2022 12:46 - 33 minutes - 30.3 MBIf we take a deep look at how Jesus did life in the gospels, we’ll learn to walk as he walked. Steve Norman of Winning at Home and host of the Hope Through Hard Stuff podcast shows us how to be transformed by following in the footsteps of Rabbi Jesus. Here’s what we learn from Jesus: First, He knew the word and loved the word, but even he was not afraid to ask questions. Questions help us grow deep in the word. Then, Jesus spent time alone with the Father. It’s where we see what we’re made o...
Only Jesus' Love Can Change Us
February 22, 2022 12:43 - 24 minutes - 22.2 MBIt’s was an overwhelming gift of being filled with the love of Christ when Perry was 16, like waves and waves of liquid love rolling over him. And the very next day he sinned big time. God had given Perry such a beautiful gift and he trampled on it. Was there grace after such a failure? Then, we are born orphans, with an orphan spirit. But through the extravagant love of God, we are adopted into his family. And yet having been adopted, we can still feel like the orphan, we can still struggle ...
Power of Love
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Recreated to Love
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Move Toward the Mess
February 16, 2022 12:31 - 29 minutes - 27.1 MBShawna saw her come in the door of the restaurant. It looked like the young woman was meeting up with a guy for a first date. And Shawna noticed that her zipper was down. Should she tell the stranger, if so how? It’s a conversation about being loving and honest in our relationships. Then, we’re in an spiritual war with unseen enemies. Ramona, a Perry and Shawna Mornings listener feels it in her family and sees it in the body of Christ. So, we pray! Next Shawna once believed that if she gave ...
#WeSpeakJesus
February 15, 2022 17:58 - 26 minutes - 24.6 MBGreg from Zeeland joins the team and shares his beautiful heart in such a real way. He wants so much to share the love of Jesus in his workplace, he longs for his co-workers to know Jesus’ love. He wants to talk to the guys, but it’s scary. And the song We Speak Jesus is giving him hope! Then Greg opens up about his longing to be the spiritual leader in his family. And Perry and Shawna coach him up. Next Shawna shares the incredibly high bar of loving as Jesus loves. That can be discourag...
O How He Loves Us!
February 14, 2022 12:40 - 28 minutes - 26.1 MBShawna was so overwhelmed by the love of God that she couldn’t wait to spend time with him. It’s a call to lavish our love on the One who gave his life for ours. Then, we’re called to love the unlovable, to even love our enemies. But what do when the enemy is you? What can free us from self-condemnation and even self-hatred? Next, Perry shares what he learned from his mom as she faced some really hard things in her last years of life. Then, you’re going to cross paths with someone today who ...
God Sees, Knows, Loves YOU!
February 11, 2022 12:44 - 32 minutes - 29.6 MBGod wants us not just to understand, but to experience his healing love. He longs for us to hear him saying, “you are loved, you are seen, you have worth, you belong, and you are known.” So today author York Moore provides a bridge into experiencing God’s love. We talk about his book, co-authored with Gary Chapman, Seen, Known, Loved. 5 Truths About God & Your Love Language. First, York shares his a-mazing story. He came from a family of brilliant atheists. As a young man he decided there wa...
Jump in the Deep End
February 10, 2022 12:42 - 23 minutes - 21.9 MBIf you want to understand God’s word better, if you want to deepen your love relationship with Jesus, if you want answers to the deep questions of life, then Moody Publishers new resource Bible to Life is for you. Chris Martin, editor of BTL joins our team to talk about this amazing, go deeper resource. First, we get to know Chris: He shares that it took his friends abandoning him in high school for him to completely give his life to Jesus. Then, we can never earn God’s favor, but that’s not ...
#Transformation
February 09, 2022 12:26 - 18 minutes - 17.1 MBThe incredible gift of drawing near to God is that his light shines into the core of who we are. The painful cost of that illumination is that we see our sin. But that’s where transformation happens. Then, feelings are awesome! Don’t stuff them, don’t reject them, don’t deny them, don’t ignore them, but always submit your feelings to the truth of God’s word. Perry’s learned this the hard way. But it’s a hard-won lesson that has led to life transformation. Next, repentance isn’t beating oursel...
Inside Out Change
February 08, 2022 12:37 - 33 minutes - 30.6 MBPerry felt he was lost forever. What lifted him out of that dark place was learning the difference between faith and feelings. Then, Shawna’s dad just went to heaven on New Year’s Day. Her dad was a Jesus man who loved Shawna well. But for one of our listeners, his dad is SO far from God and he’s asking us for a HUGE favor. Next, Perry shares about his three-day career in the Boy Scouts. Then, for inside out change, our hearts need to be pierced by a sword. Next, the gospel produces in us a h...
Raising Kids in a Woke Culture
February 07, 2022 12:39 - 25 minutes - 23 MBMarina Hofman is a young mom with wisdom way beyond her years. Wisdom that was hard won through a horrific car accident that nearly took her life and her ability to have children. Marina (PhD, theology) is an award-winning author, biblical scholar, and speaker. She teaches at Palm Beach Atlantic University, and has led women's conferences across the planet. First Marina shares about her accident and how God used her precious daughter Willow to heal her while Willow was still in the womb. Then...
No Way Forward?
February 01, 2022 15:23 - 23 minutes - 21.6 MBThere may be people in your life that may need to be rescued from foolish choices, or there may be those who are so hurting and broken that they can’t get to Jesus. They need us to help get them to him. It’s a conversation about what this might look like. Then Shawna shares about a day she felt unseen, overlooked, and misunderstood. And it was a simple act of kindness from a stranger that reminded her that God sees her! Next, God has Kingdom dreams for your life that only you can accomplish ...
#DebtFree
January 31, 2022 13:13 - 41 minutes - 38 MBIn December of 2018 the Collins were $178,448.66 in debt. As a young married couple in full time ministry with a handful of children they began to ask, “Is it always going to be like this?” Chris is a youth pastor and Heather became an ICU nurse to help people and increase their income. In a journey of bold steps and great faith they paid their debt in full in just shy of 3 years. Hearing their story of hardship and trusting God will help you to believe for the impossible in your own life, wh...
Aslan Is On the Move!
January 28, 2022 16:00 - 28 minutes - 25.7 MBGod is working mighty wonders in our world and Tim Harris just witnessed some of them in the Middle East! Tim and his wife Miriam have a passion to share Jesus’ love with Muslims and to teach us as well. They are the authors of Loving Your Muslim Neighbor. Tim and Miriam were in Iraq and Jordan from December 23rd to January 9th and witnessed Jesus’ power and love on display. First, they were in the home of a paralyzed Muslim man who just had a dream of Jesus. He is SO close to following Jesus...
Need Help, Mom?
January 27, 2022 12:37 - 25 minutes - 23.8 MBShe walked into her bedroom carrying a load of laundry and caught sight of herself in the mirror. What she saw shocked her and she thought, “I am way too young to look this old.” America's #1 Mom Coach, Hannah Keeley joins the team to share the journey from that moment of shock to where she is now. Hannah’s the host of the TV show, Hannah, Help Me! She’s a mom of seven and if you’re a mom she wants to equip and inspire you for the greatest career on earth—motherhood. First Hannah shares the ...
We're In a War
January 26, 2022 12:38 - 31 minutes - 28.6 MBIf your heart is set on that promotion, or meeting the right person, or the healing you need, or getting your next hit cause you’re addicted, or a lie you believe is true, it’s time for a reset. It’s a conversation about what it looks like to set your mind on things above. Then, we’re in an unseen battle, with an enemy who hates us, who’s stronger than us. But there’s no reason to fear because King Jesus has rescued us and freed us to bring the Kingdom of heaven to earth! Next, if tempting t...
It's True, All of It
January 25, 2022 12:28 - 25 minutes - 23.2 MBJ. Warner Wallace thought the Jesus story was a myth. But he become curious enough to check out the gospels when a pastor framed Jesus as a wise sage. After six months investigating the claims of the gospels using his skill set as a cold case detective, J. Warner became a Jesus follower. J. Warner joins the team to share what convinced him that Jesus is alive and Lord of all. Then, courage is something you grow into as you ask God to help you win the day-to-day battles when no one else is lo...
Do You Believe God Loves You
January 22, 2022 22:57 - 30 minutes - 27.6 MBGod’s love in Jesus has embraced the worst, the unlovable in us. That’s what changes us. And now that we’ve been loved like this, we’re called to love the unlovable. For Luke Smallbone of For King and Country, the unlovable person for him was his bride Courtney as she wrestled with an addiction to prescription drugs. Then Shawna doesn’t like change because it’s uncomfortable and hard. But she realizes that becoming like Jesus requires change. Find out how she dances with that tension. Next, ...
Do You Believe God Loves You?
January 22, 2022 22:57 - 30 minutes - 27.6 MBGod’s love in Jesus has embraced the worst, the unlovable in us. That’s what changes us. And now that we’ve been loved like this, we’re called to love the unlovable. For Luke Smallbone of For King and Country, the unlovable person for him was his bride Courtney as she wrestled with an addiction to prescription drugs. Then Shawna doesn’t like change because it’s uncomfortable and hard. But she realizes that becoming like Jesus requires change. Find out how she dances with that tension. Next, ...
#DomesticAbuse
January 20, 2022 12:53 - 17 minutes - 16.2 MBIf you’re being abused by your husband, it’s time to get out and get safe. David Clarke joins the team with a life-saving conversation about his new book Enough is Enough: A Step-by-Step Plan to Leave an Abusive Relationship with God’s Help. First David defines abuse to make it clear if this is your reality. Then he shares the 4-step process to get out. Next, he gives the biblical grounding for separation from the danger you’re in. Then, a story of a marriage saved through David’s tough love ...
I'm Desperate for You
January 19, 2022 12:29 - 22 minutes - 20.8 MBIf you’ve had the realization that, “Man my life looks good on the outside, but inside I’m a mess,” Perry and Shawna can relate. It can be overwhelming, “Where do I even start to clean up the mess?” Jesus says, “Come to me.” Then, if you’ve been blind-sided by life and you’re wondering, “God what are you up to?” What God is up to is that he is giving you your deepest wish, more of himself. Next, as the Holy Spirt opens our eyes to the shining face of Jesus in his word and he reveals more of h...
Wounded Healers
January 18, 2022 12:40 - 39 minutes - 36.1 MBNobody gets out of the life without a limp. But it’s our limp that qualifies us to heal. The only real healers are wounded healers; Jesus made that excruciatingly clear on the cross. Find healing today from Jesus through some Jesus music people. From Zach Williams who battled the demons of drug and alcohol addiction for 15 years. Then Hope Darst who in her dark night of the soul heard from Jesus, “You belong to me, but you’re not free. I’m going to show you the way out.” Next Natalie Grant sh...
Iraq Waits for You
January 17, 2022 16:46 - 30 minutes - 28 MBIn the 1990’s Bob Blincoe moved his young family to northern Iraq to reach the Muslim Kurds who hadn’t yet heard the gospel. His family along with a few other single men were the first messengers of Jesus to take the gospel there. What God has done since among the Kurds is extraordinary. Yet so much more of Iraq is still waiting! Bob serves as President Emeritus of Frontiers USA ; a movement, with love and respect, inviting all Muslim peoples to follow Jesus. Bob shares how John 3:16 first st...
Deeper Gospel
January 14, 2022 16:46 - 25 minutes - 23.1 MBMaybe your gospel gets you in God’s family, and it’s something you share with people who don’t know Jesus. But it stops there. Your gospel gets you in, but then it’s on you to keep yourself in. If so, your gospel doesn’t go far enough or deep enough. Today we go deeper. It’s a conversation about how the gospel gets us in God’s forever family, grows us, matures us, empowers us, and fuels us for our journey. And it’s the gospel that will bring us into all God has promised—The day when we’re bre...
#Prayer
January 13, 2022 16:54 - 22 minutes - 20.9 MBFrom eternity the Father, Son, and Spirit have been pouring oceans of love into one another. It’s been a Dance of love that is pure joy itself. And prayer is coming into this Dance! Asherita Ciuciu joins the team to help us thrive in the joy of the Dance. We talk about her book coming in April: Prayers of Rest. Daily Prompts to Slow Down and Hear God’s Voice. Asherita is a speaker, author, and host of the Prayers of Restpodcast. First, maybe you feel ashamed because you’re just not praying en...
Antonio Sabato Jr.
January 12, 2022 15:45 - 19 minutes - 17.8 MBActor Antonio Sabato Jr. is no stranger to the TV/Film stage with roles in The Big Hit with Mark Wahlberg, CSI: NY, and Melrose Place. Most recently Antonio stars in God’s Not Dead: We the People. Today Anthony shares his riveting story—His great-grandparents were murdered by the Nazi’s at Auschwitz, his mother and grandmother lived under the oppression of Soviet communism in Prague. Antonio shares that through the grit passed down from his family and through knowing Jesus, he has a passion...
Prayer Doesn't Work for Me
January 11, 2022 16:28 - 14 minutes - 13.6 MBMaybe not. But look at it this way: Prayer is relationship with Jesus. In a thriving prayer life, we know that we are loved by God as we are, not as we should be. And we know that we can come to God not because we’re so good, but because he’s so good! Today Perry teams up with Matt Chandler, the lead pastor of teaching at the Village Church in Dallas. Maybe you can relate, I’m unworthy to come to God, I feel guilty about not praying more, I’m not qualified to get close to God, God knows all ...
Light for Your Next Step
January 10, 2022 16:11 - 20 minutes - 18.8 MBIf you’ve trusted Jesus to forgive you but you have doubts that you’re in his family to stay, Perry can relate. Perry shares what he’s learned through his doubts—to trust in Jesus’ performance and not his own, and to trust that there’s no fine print canceling any of God’s promises. Then, Shawna’s dad went to heaven on New Year’s Day, and he left Shawna with a priceless gift—a deep love for God’s word. It’s a conversation about what it looks like to pass on a love for the word of God to your k...
#ICanDoAllThings
January 07, 2022 12:27 - 25 minutes - 22.9 MBShawna’s learning in the slog of life that she can do all things through Christ who gives her strength—she can do generous things, she can do things without sleep, she can be happy in really hard stuff because she knows the true source of joy. Then, when Perry was 18, he longed to come to Jesus with all his junk, but he felt he had to clean himself up first. That’s when Jesus arranged a meet up that changed his heart forever. Next, there was a man who just couldn’t believe in God becoming a m...
Jesus Colored Glasses
January 06, 2022 16:17 - 21 minutes - 19.6 MBLife will look a whole lot better if you look at 2022 through your Jesus glasses. Here are four things you’ll see when you put them on. First, God has put dreams in your heart to make this world a better place. But maybe fear has held you back from pursuing those dreams or maybe you have pursued them, but you’ve got nothing to show for all your efforts. If that’s you, you need to know about the safety net! Next, it’s been a tough week for Shawna, losing her dad on New Year’s Day. But Jesus h...
Put on Your 2022 Shades
January 05, 2022 12:38 - 26 minutes - 24.5 MBSome sweet shades for you to wear in 2022. If you do, here’s what life could look like: Shawna has struggled with anxiety for 30 years. But what the struggle looked like then and what it looks like now is massively different, and the difference has everything to do with trust muscles. Then one of Perry’s most listened to songs in 2021 from Spotify Wrapped was Ross King’s, Things I’m Afraid Of. It’s a conversation about how feelings, as overwhelming and convincing as they can be, are not the t...
Wear Your Jesus Glasses
January 04, 2022 12:35 - 24 minutes - 22.7 MBSeeing 2022 through a Jesus lens! First, one of our listeners Jason, emailed us: “Can you suggest any material on how best to share Jesus? A guy who does some work for me just lost his wife who was in her 30’s. I don’t know him really well but want to offer words. Jesus is opening these doors for me, and I need to walk through them.” So, Shawna and Perry have a conversation about sharing the good news in a relational, organic way. Then to follow Jesus we gotta leave some things behind, those...
Open Your Eyes to Real Life
January 03, 2022 12:33 - 29 minutes - 26.6 MBWe kick off 2022 with how to see the new year and thrive in it. First, Shawna fasted from sugar and caffeine in December (!) for one reason alone—she was desperate. Then, the only way we can get back into God’s presence is to come under the Sword of Justice. But none can survive that. Which begs the question: How can we ever get back into paradise? Next, Shawna’s dad was in his last hours early New Year’s Day and Shawna wasn’t ready to let him go because her dad had loved her so well; she di...
He Will Lift You Up
December 27, 2021 18:10 - 23 minutes - 21.7 MBIt’s Freedom Friday! If you’re weary in the war against sin and evil, Samwise from Lord of the Rings has a message for you. Then Mary and Joseph weren’t actually turned away from every home in Bethlehem; they were welcomed by family! Next the three words that became so precious to Perry after his dark night of the soul in 1996—words that come from an ancient story. Then, how a great song is created; out of the dark night of the soul: The story behind O Little Town of Bethlehem. Next, Perry a...
Mary Christmas
December 16, 2021 20:40 - 27 minutes - 25.4 MBMary, the mother of Jesus was the most important human in the most earth-shaking event in history: Bringing the Messiah into the world. Which could make our calling feel insignificant. But Mary wasn’t super-human, she just humbly said yes to God. Like we can. And there’s so much MORE than that! Helping with the more is author and speaker, Marina Hofman (PhD) who teaches Bible and theology at Palm Beach Atlantic University. We discover from Mary the power of saying yes to God. We see in her t...
Starving for Community?
December 15, 2021 15:48 - 29 minutes - 27.2 MBSo, you’re one who’s looking for connection at church. You’re making the effort: You have a small group. You show up most Sundays. You engage in the worship, the teaching. But somehow, you’re not connecting with anybody. What’s the deal? Author and pastor Ben Connelly has some encouragement, actually a map. His latest book is A Field Guide to Genuine Community—25 Days & 101 Ways to Move from Façade to Family. Ben joins the team to talk about the upside of Covid; we’re willing to admit more th...