Gary is a social community activist in Camden, New Jersey, and a co-chair for the state’s Green Party. Thanks to Mark Georgia of Pemberton, NJ (where we both volunteered for Bernie Sanders presidential campaign in 2016), he is also my twin.

It was amazing to witness Gary’s growing anger as he realized the depth to which most Americans have been hoodwinked when it comes to federal economics. At one point his eyes teared up and we needed to take a break.

Gary now believes that the Green Party dismisses modern money without fully understanding it.

This is a great conversation with a lot of sobering emotions, bad words, and laughter.

Recorded July 30th, 2018.