Office Hours: Ebony Elizabeth Thomas speaks on children's lit, 'The Dark Fantastic,' and pie

Here, in the latest episode of the “Office Hours” podcast series produced by Penn Today, which explores the minds of the University’s academic talents in a more unbuttoned and freewheeling setting outside of the lecture hall, Thomas discusses growing up with limited children’s literature options, where young adult and children’s lit is going today, why she still hasn’t watched “The Wire,” and what she thinks is an overrated virtue.