In Episode 79 of the Paw & Order podcast, co-hosts Camille Labchuk and Jessica Scott-Reid speak with Dr. Charu Chandrasekera. Dr. Chandrasekera is the founder of the Canadian Centre for Alternatives to Animal Methods (CCAAM) at Windsor University, an internationally recognized research centre working to develop alternatives to animal testing. The interview explores why traditional animal testing is an outdated form of research that often produces poor results, why modern alternatives to animal testing focusing on human biology are more efficient, the exciting work that CCAAM is doing to develop these alternatives, and why it's time for Canada to do more to support alternatives to animal testing and to develop these lifesaving technologies.